$10,000 HOLLYWOOD CINEMA LIGHT vs. Aputure 600D!
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- Опубліковано 17 лип 2024
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Today we review the Aputure 600D, an absolute unit of a light that in some ways is better than some industry standard equipment. I highly doubt HMIs are going anywhere, but it is cool to see just how good LED fixtures are getting. - Наука та технологія
The 1.2K HMI is a Par, not a fresnel - makes a huge difference.
I was looking for that comment or I was going to make it
Word for word, yea. But a fresnel is just a flat par glass.
@@twotoneimages9387 a fresnel will have a lower output in spot vs a par with a tight lens though.
@@CaravanCamera wouldn't have known that. I thought a cone reflector with a fresnel and a spot lens would result in higher output, no? Have not used HMIs so I wouldn't know.
@@twotoneimages9387 not so. The fresnel HMIs have a lower output than their Par equivalents due to the light absorbed by the fresnel lens itself.
Spotting a fresnel always increases the output, but is still a stop less than a Par with a tight lens.
A par 1.2 HMI with a tight lens will also have greater output than the Aperture 600d fitted with a fresnel.
Different tools for different needs.
A technical review or real-world test would be awesome! Could you share your thoughts on the fan’s loudness when in the light dome II? I read that microphones can easily hear the 600d’s fans when within 10 feet, which makes me nervous about using it for interviews
Wow! Thats crazy to see! and I would love a follow up video with a more scientific test, maybe how skin tones react to each fixture and relative brightness. Maybe if you get the fresnel attachment you could compare that! Good stuff though!
Thanks man!! Yea I will try to get a more technical video done :)
Great video! Did filmgear send this out to you to review?
Hard to tell without a proper technical comparison, but based off published photometrics (which are highly applicable to planning out a shoot and knowing what you will "get" out of a light), the HMI's pack way more punch.
Here's a quick comparison of the published LUX at 1m and 5m for the following lights. Aputure 600D Pro (15 degree Frensel), Arri M8 (Open Face Spotted to 15 degree), and Arri D12 Fresnel (10 degree spot).
Light 1M 5M
600D 224,200 Lux 10,580 Lux
M8 405,000 Lux 16,200 Lux
D12 5,470,000 Lux 218,800 Lux
Arri's photometric app doesn't allow for a 15 degree spot on the D12, so that part is a touch unfair. And obviously the wattages of all these lights are different. However, it's important to realize that a visual test alone doesn't tell the whole story. Remember that each doubling of the light output equates to one-stop of light in your exposure. So, having a 12,000 watt D12 that can get you an additional 4-5 stops of exposure over the 600D might be worth it...particularly if you are book-lighting and losing 2-3 stops (or more) in bounce and diffusion, while trying to balance with a window for example.
The 600D is a great light, but it certainly doesn't replace the need for HMI's in many situations.
However, at it's price-point, it's a light worth owning, and HMI's are worth renting :)
So lets compare them @40° @5m
600D: 4200 Lux
M8: 3000 Lux
D12: 2700 Lux @50° and 5400 Lux @30° and 23500 Lux @7,5°
so lets assume @40° we would have about 4000 Lux.
At least in the Center of the beam the 600D is on par with a D12
you are comparing the different Lens designs to each other. I don't see why you would Spot your Lens to 15° for a Booklight
Also. Your values for the D12 are simply wrong. Even at 7.5° and 5m the D12 does only deliver 23500 Lux and 610000 at 1m
great review!
dope video bro!
Keep up the good work Mike
Thanks Eric!
Hey Mike your video is on point to a point I think the 600D is a great light for what it does and price point! Now I've read some of the reviews you've gotten and in over 30 years of lighting and mostly film cct, cri and wtf! and all the technical crap means nothing either you can light or not if your so concerned about that keep a color temp meter with you! In this day with a DIT and digital media their only stroking their egos! And if you need more light add another...
So keep doing your thing and if people think their point is so much valid let them get their own channel and call it The Bitter expert!
What’s that practical light you have in the background? Looks great, especially in the broll shots, because it’s not blown out
It's just a regular light bulb dimmed down
I'm ready for an Aputure 2400D!
Before I bought my Godox 600d (I am cheap), I was concerned that it was more light than I will ever need. Now that I have it, I think 600w is perfect. The ability to pump up the volume to nearly more than I need with a turn of a dial has completely changed how I shoot. I find myself using less lights overall and more reflectors. Setup time has dropped a ton. The flexibility is outstanding. I suppose I may have to just buy the Aputure 600D next time so I can be in the club. :D
Superbe vidéo comme d'habitude.
Try them outside on a sunny day. light your subject from 10' distance with your led and let us know it works or not. I like led lights but the ratio of light travel distance of HMI to led is still 3 to 1 so they are not a replacement for HMI yet but a very good tool to have. Manufactures don’t tell you this stuff because they want you to buy new things
Show us an HMI a person could afford.
@@user-zv7lm8uk7h rent it like everyone else, buy used gear or buy even a knock off brand...
editing is nuts keep it up bro
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My smartphone's flashlight isn't working but thanks this video gets the job done..
Always use strain relief on your feeder cables, regardless of HMI, or LED.
The biggest issue with Aperture lights are the terrible feeder cables. Take care of them, buy a spare, and always use strain relief.
Any take on Godox vs Aputure?
@@cubul32 Ijust ordered this light on blak friday. I am expecting it to be a little better than godox, but godox is pretty good these days.
7:54 - The lighter Aputure 600D light with a Baby Receiver (female) coming off of the Baby Pin (male) of the light stand.
Was waiting for the plant to start burning 🔥
i like your un-technical review because this is what I would have done with these lights to compare for my needs.
at 12:23 I read 1.8k is that correct?
5:09 - Heavier light with Baby Pin (male) going into the Baby Receiver (female) of the light stand.
Man I just got the 300D and now I want the 600D and 1200D lol
I got a 3200D
Dude-Thanks for the comparison. Maybe not so scientific but I don't care. How often do you pull out a meter nowadays? I trust my eyes.
Keep it up mike!
I guess you could say... it’s lit.
;-)
good video!
Half the power consumption with more output AND cheaper... Aputure has really outdone themselves. I could easily see this light becoming an industry standard in the near future.
More output?
Love it
Actually Mike, there two different tools ! The F1.8 has way more output and for a much greater distance, the fall off with Led is much much greater, so testing 2mts from a wall won't give you a proper test result.I have done a similar test with a F1.2 Filmgear hmi and it has twice the output (unfortunately at this stage). However it's normally used throughout a window or inside a set.
The 600d has the advantages of output temperature, accessories, better dimming and effects, battery operation, Sidus link app control.
As a professional lighting gaffer,I would use both, but for different situations .
Exactly!
Perfect!! Well said thank you for the contribution.
If I ever do get around to doing a proper side by side I would definitely show the difference in throw and use a proper meter and so on. This video was absolutely not very thorough, will improve in future videos.
who came here just cuz they think this guy is hella handsome
Ahaha love you man
He is very very handsome - so trained, what a sight to watch!
Good vid
Hopefully next iPhone flashlight will have comparable brightness
Yessss
soooo the light literally says it's "1.8k", which, i guess, is technically a better showing for the 600d
LOL I know! No one is mentioning that. haha I'm sure the throw is different between them, but if you are using the 600 closeup then it would be my choice.
pretty cool light though , but keep in mind that most led lights on the market will last only 50,000 hours, theres no way to replace the led chip, in fact will be dead... and if you invest money on a HMI ,you will spend a lot more budget at the beginning but your light will last for life, and you only gonna have to replace de globe when needed and some repairs of course when needed... technology its changing day by day and that doesn't mean that we have to replace one think with an other, its cool always cool to experiment with new things .
"only" 50000 Hours? That is still 5-6 Years 24/7 use. I would like to see anyone use any Film Equipment this amount of time.
@@TheScrubsfanforever It will take 21 years for it to go out
These lights are cheap and will never ever last as long as the LED Diode. The plastic will break in less than 5 years. But the people who bought them will have long ago discarded them, since we live in a throw away world.
Holy smokes
Lmao I think I stopped saying that 😂
Instead of MikeTheVike2, what about MTV Productions/Studios?
That's not a bad idea temporarily, but the current plan is second channel eventually won't be a second channel, nothing to do with "MikeTheVike" 😉
pog
Buy a photometer, bro.
DAMN YOU ARE CUTE!! LOVE THE VIDEO AS WELL!
You guess a lot lot and don't measure anything. Like at a given exposure and you turn on a light that is brighter than your settings, well of course a light is bright> duh!
The "hollywood" lamp is a chinese copy of an Arri M18? There is no fresnel in it. Its called a facetted reflector.
They are not simaliar
The 600d has around 29.300 Lux (3m with fresnel) while the M18 has 108.889 Lux(3M spot).The original M18 should be 3 times brighter.
These are complelete different types of lamps in different output classes and different applications. In a real comparison you should measure the thinks like Klevin/Lux/Cri/noise/distance and loss of light and so on.
Quality:
In industry you wouldn't use this lamp, you would use a bulletproof Arri. I have used a lot of Aputure in the last two years and lost (broke) about 10-15% of the lamps. The Arris ones still work or are at least repairable.
It makes many production much easier and cut down cost and manpower.
Hey Mike, are you seriously comparing output and CCT by eye?? And did you ever set up a booklight with an 8x8? 600d is neither enough output nor as quiet as the non-ventilated HMI. When comparing, please throw these thoughts in the bucket, measure the output AND the conformity /eveness of the light... Sorry - to amateurish...
Come on man, buy a light meter. This is a hippy style review.
Facts:
Arri M18 = 18 000 lux
600D =. 10 000 lux
Love HMI, hate LED light, buuuuut Led is the future!!!. In cinema for a biggest lights HMI continues more years i think. Aputure is a good light but for beginners not for pros at the moment.
Your view of “pros” is too narrow. Lights like this are used by far more pros than HMIs right now. Not in Hollywood. But in the rest of the world.
@@FilmMavericks Why not use in Hollywood? reason? In Spain donent use for Pros.... let me know what rest of the world please?
@@JaimeRealizador I don't know. I don't work in Hollywood. But pros use LEDs all the time.
@@FilmMavericks leds are being used for close shots and for being rigged in places that traditional fixtures can’t. In the arena of putting a light through a window to simulate daylight, which is what the 600d is meant to do, is still very much ruled mostly by hmis, but also maxi brutes and large tungsten fixtures from time to time. When you need to light large spaces hmis are the obvious choice. I think that may be what the original commenter was saying in regards to “pro”.
@@FilmMavericks The watt per meter drop in the LED is too great, an HMI can handle much more light per meter, like tungsten. The LED is the present and one more tool with which we can have fun.
C'est gentil "d'être honnête avec moi". Suis-je un privilégié ?
You're so handsome I can't focus
What a lot of waffle when a simple side by side test is all that’s required. This isn’t even a good test. Rubbish!
Can't wait to get my hands on the 600D