Cobra Fi2000 PowrPro Fuel Tuner Review at RevZilla.com
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- Опубліковано 7 лис 2014
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Cobra's Fi2000 PowerPro is a revolutionary product because it allows a home tuner to hook up, and then go ride. No computer, no maps... just riding. Pow'rPro harnesses your ECM's ability to monitor the air/fuel ratio, and exploits it to find hidden power, stop decel popping, and deliver cripser throttle response. - Авто та транспорт
I put this on my 2014 Ultra Limited and changed the cams, headers, slip on and air intake. I am very happy with the cobra.
I have had a power commander and thundermax and the Cobra has worked the best thus far.
Thanks Lemmy, I have watched this and have ordered the Fi2000 for my bike and installed in 30 min on my bike. Right away I seen a change in the bike this morning riding to work. Thanks again for the video.
Had 1 on a 2012 street glide. Put full Rhinehart header and pipes with an Arlenn Ness big sucker. Worked amazing. Could smell more fuel burning.
Ordered mines today can't wait, should be here in a few days ☺
I recently added one to my 13 Street Glide and it was probably one of the easiest hookups I've done. I had this thing on in 15 minutes. I have changed out my mufflers, added a screamin eagle heavy breather, got rid of cats and this thing kept my bike running optimal. There is zero backfire, acceleration is smooth through the entire gear system. This thing isn't going to give you any extra power or make your bike run any different than stock performance, but what it does do is keep everything running optimal as it did at stock setup, no matter what you do to it. I am satisfied with it ... I looked at it like this ... a single dyno for a 6 speed transmission will run about 600 buxx ... so for 500, I can buy this thing and switch out pretty much anything to find the config I like, without having to dyno at every hardware change. Good Stuff!
Here in 2020, have this on my 12 glide with a 103. I out run any stock Harley bagger on the market. Great investment
Put this on my 2012 Heritage a few years ago. Caused bike to surge going up even slight inclines. Called Cobra they told me how to adjust the tuner (why not include that in the instruction???). Made it a bit better but still surged pretty bad on the big hills. Didn't do anything for the popping, spuddering of pipes. Cobra said it wouldn't help that. Wasn't an easy install either, had to run wires underneath to O2 sensors, hard to get fingers in there to disconnect and connect. Removed and put on V&H fuel pak. No surging. Pipes do still pop and spudder. Wasted money on the Cobra. If you don't have hills might be good - it did provide more power, could definitely tell a difference, just didn't like the surging up the hills..
I used this on my 2010 Ultra Classic Limited. Easy install only I found was when starting it would take a extra turn of the motor to start. No big deal Bike always run good with this installed. When I traded in the 2010 for a 2014 I removed the Powrpro bike ran good and sold the powrpor on Ebay. Got a new one for my 2014 again easy install bike always runs very good.
Glen Barton I thought these tuners 'married' to only one bike. I was told they can only be used on the bike you first connected it to. Hmmmm...
Can't wait to buy this since I'm getting a custom exhaust that doesn't have a map
Ive got 1 installed on my sporty 883. Does this mean i could upgrade to say 1200 or 1275 without a tune?
Powerpro works great on my Harley Vrod noticeable increase in response and power..
Do you still like it on your vrod 4 years later
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i ran the original with the 3 manual adjustments on my 1800 vtx. the bike ran like a raped ape. i bought a 2010 road king and went with the new self adjusting fuel processor. and have swapped a couple different slip ons and v&h true duals. it has adjusted to everything i changed resulting in no changes. it always runs great. once it adjusts to your driving it just fills in the parameters and makes the adjustments. then bang it works. i have friends with those power commanders, etc. they spent more time on a dyno, hooked to a computer, adjust this, adjust that and hundreds later no better than my bike performance. they even ask how did i get it to run so good. when i tell them they get pissed. i just say you should have done the research. and save some cash. it doesn't even require the o2 sensors plugged in. but i did it anyway. no difference. i'm totally convinced and impressed. first i thought it was gonna be another gimmick. not so. well worth the money and less hassle.
Many of these post come from individuals that are clueless on anything mechanical on their motorcycle. The correct unit for your bike with the CORRECT installation will result in correct operation.
My softail runs correctly whether I am riding at sea level or at 6000 ft.
The increase in power will come at the cost of increase in fuel consumption. That is how horsepower works.
You can dynotune for power or reliability. A little is better then lean for reliability.
If you don’t know what you are doing, have no real understanding of air fuel ratio, leave it to those who do.
How hard is this to install on a 2022 Honda fury? First time motorcycle rider/owner. Let go of my 18 mustang Gt mt82 and got this as a cheaper alternative as far as toys go. Will be. Doing first service through Honda then installing exhaust with this. Just wanted an idea if this is something I can do with minimal knowledge on a motorcycle. Thanks in advance!
How is this product any different than ECU that comes installed on the bike from the factory?
Actually these are MUCH better than a dyno due to the fact it's in real time, not a set Map!
Hello Lemme I bought this for my 2015 Vrod Muscle.It has Bassani 4" slipons and a K&N filter. I am supposed to be receiving it in the mail from Parts Giant. I am very loyal to Revzilla but for only 200 bucks I fig give it a shot instead of dumping $500 on the Power Pro.After reading your comments from your subscribers I wonder if I screwed up buying it.
Hello Matt, did you install the PowerPro and if so, how did it work out with your V Rod?
If i purchased this from the US would i be able to install it on a UK bike or would it need a different adapter.
Sure hate to have a lot of money invested in a dyno. Dyno's are done with this technology plus the cost of devices like these are only going to become cheaper with all the competition out there. Can't wait!!!
Just got mine for 09 nightrain, It already has screaming eagle tuner. Do I need to remove se tuner or just plug this in and off I go?
i ran this on a 2010 road king with true dual head pipes. v&h big radius baffles removed and added big city thunder baffles. man now this bike sounds bad ass. big city is different. it has the lollypop but it also is attached to a smaller piece of pipe which reduces the inside diameter smaller as well. i used a ring terminal wire connector on a bolt instead of all that welding crap. just crimp it on the bolt. but i say go big city there is a difference. not cheap though. you could get a small piece of pipe that fits the inside of the 1 3/4 head pipe and make the same thing. if you restrict the exhaust too much it will push oil out of the breather hoses on the air cleaner and drip out. don't make too much back pressure and use a high flow air filter. k&n element.
Changed battery Not getting a spark at all now.
Would this works on 2002 ultra classic?
Can I hook it up to a 2001 road king classic magneti merretti efi with no ox sensors
I have s 96 flhri and would like to know the same
Thinking about buying this but before I do, just a question. I have a 15 Street Glide Special and just added Cobra head pipes, Cobra Power Flo air cleaner and V&H Slash round slip-ons. To save the cost of the dyno, i had the HD dealer do a download after they installed the new components. I don't feel like there is much more power if any, will adding this power pro increase my power? Thank you.
The PowrPro might increase your power. However, for less money, I'd recommend the much more capable Vance and Hines Fuelpak FP3. -DrewZilla
*www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/vance-hines-fuelpak-fp3-autotuner-for-harley-2011-2017
Installing screaming eagle pipes on a 07 Dyna lowrider, if I also install this with chafing my stock air cleaner will I see a power increase?
*without changing
Is this like the fp3 where you can also pull up dtc or no
No, it does not act as a diagnostic tool like the FP3. -DrewZilla
MY 2 CENTS.. recent 2000FI install on 2008 xl 1200 custom. cobra baffles in gutted stock pipes (long story) Kuryakin high flow AF. Unit does not look like pictured in vid. Unit is model that eliminates O2 sensors. Cobra shipped it with 3 2 2 pot settings. Cobra instructions contradictory and call to tech. support didnt help. Paperwork says shipped with initial settings appropriate for a stock xl1200. Other "guidance" said shipped assuming pipes /AF upgrades. Whatever.... It's installed and set at 3 4 4 based on some trial and error. Bike idles and runs great.. seems even snappier than I expected. MPH down some but it's so much fun, I've been running the piss out of it in 3 4 5 gear. Like all electronjcs, who knows how long it'll go. Cool and dry will help. Anyone with similar bike and setup wanna weigh in on their three numbers? I just bumped up until no noticeable perf. improvement
What version of this would work for a 2013 dyna fld
+Shay Luth Linked below is the correct version for the '13 Switchback. -DrewZilla
*www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/cobra-fi2000-powrpro-fuel-tuner-for-harley-dyna-2012-2014
So what are the differences between this item and the Cobra Fi2000 PowrPro Black ? I liked this item because it automatically made the needed adjustments, it doesn't seem the "Black" works the same. Plus, it doesn't seem this item is available Harley Touring 2014-2016 anymore.
The Black is the replacement for this, which is why this isn't available for 14-16 Touring. The Black allows additional modification to fueling via their smartphone app. -DrewZilla
Can I lower the idle on a 09 street bob with this? It is fuel injected
It does not lower the idle. With the Vance & Hines FP3, you can adjust idle speed via the Idle Spark Control Gain/Max settings. -DrewZilla
*bit.ly/38moF9A
Just installed one on my VTX1800. I've been having problems with the app, so is it working even if I can't monitor anything? The red light stays on while the bike is running, but there is no bluetooth connection, even with the app permissions allowed, and the OS on my phone up to date.
The tuner is still doing it job if that’s part of your question. As far as the blue tooth goes that might be on your phone end, maybe not up to date ??
The guy literally said his OS is up to date! OS " operating system " this is the phone's system software or firmware if you will. Please read the entire question, before giving advice!
So what's the deal with this tuner? Is the app junk? Does it have tons of software bugs? Was the issue figured out already?
so would this work if i have aftermarket cams?
If you have more extensive mods and engine work like cams, we recommend using the Dynojet Power Commander V because it gives you more control over the map, and tuners generally have the most experience with it. -TeamZilla AJ
*www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/dynojet-power-commander-v
Hi To put the powrpro on my bike can I leave it stock or do I need a heavy breather?
+steve how You can definitely leave it stock if you want. -DrewZilla
Nice video, informative… but this isn’t an actually review of it. It’s more of an informative recommendation/explanation video. I was hoping he would go over the pros and cons and how well it does the job with a dyno run and stuff. Oh well. 😊
I have a 2001 ultra classic .i put this unit on my bike and then i had a miss. took the unit off the miss went away. can anybody tell me why or what the problem might be.
You may consider giving Cobra a call for troubleshooting: 714-692-8180. -DrewZilla
Your bike is an m&m injected bike I promise this won't work. Very little does. I would love to see this on a dyno to see what it does to the afr's. It didn't connect to the ecu so guessing it doesn't have little to control over the ignition table. If that's true then this is actual junk, which I would suspect it is anyway.
Will this work on my 2010 street glide?
You would need the Fi2000 PowrPro Black. -DrewZilla
*www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/cobra-fi2000-powrpro-black-for-harley-touring-2010-2013
Will this void my warranty on my 2018 HD iron 1200?
Unfortunately, we cannot say whether it will or not, as Harley seems to have a varying view. You would have to ask your dealer to see what they say about it. -DrewZilla
Probably so. Ask your local dealer
on your Website it only goes up to 2014, will it work on a 2015? or do i have to wait for a new updated product? thank you!
+Mario Reyes Which specific make and model bike do you have? -DrewZilla
RevZilla Thanks for the quick reply! it is a 2015 harley_48
@@RevZilla 1996 flhri .. Is this what i need?
Would you recommend this for a 03 Honda vtx 1800?
yes no doubt. i had a 1800 vtx and it defiantly made a big difference with the cobra exhaust. there is a guy that knows how to change the engine to have that harley sound. you strip off all that emission crap. then lift the rocker boxes and tie them up to the backbone. then there are 2 reed valves one on each head. you make block off gaskets and install them. i also added a ram air cleaner when its done man what a difference. i had street sweepers and the guy i rode with asked me how did i get that tugboat sound out of it. he said it sounded like a real v twin and he always rode on my left. he said he couldn't ride on the right or he would go deaf. and that was with baffles. read this. its what i did to my honda. copy and paste to address bar. tech.bareasschoppers.com/engine/vtx-1800-desmog/
Did you buy one? I'm debating on one for my VTX
I put one on my 2016 phatom but it ask for a code to pair with my phone. anyone know a code for it?
For troubleshooting, please contact Cobra directly. They can be reached at 714-692-8180. -DrewZilla
thank you it was the phone not the tuner.
the code is... MOFO
i want to buy this for my bike, i have an 05 vtx 1800f spec3 and i have the cobra speedster shorts along with a kyrakan hypercharger an i back fire alot especially on decel. will this thing burn itself out since it changes a/f ratios 80times per min or second or which ever it is. but is it highly recommended for my bike or what is the best way to produce good power an clean up the backfiring and the popping on decel?
Making that many changes per second is easy for what is basically a small computer, so it won't burn out. It's definitely a good option for your bike and should help with the backfiring and decel popping. -DrewZilla
would this be recommended over the power commander V
once you install this can you still dyno tune the bike?
No, as the Cobra would interfere with dyno tuning. -DrewZilla
which version works on a 2005 Suzuki c50?
+Kevin Dixon I've linked the appropriate version for the 2005 C50 below. -DrewZilla
*www.revzilla.com/product/cobra-fi2000r-carb-digital-fuel-processor-suzuki-c50m50-05-08
Bruce Ramsey what do you mean ?
doesnt this have blutooth or is that a different model
I believe you're thinking of the Fi2000 PowerPro Black. -DrewZilla
*www.revzilla.com/search?query=powrpro+black&commit=Search
So the black is blu tooth lol i have the one you show there in this video
Haha yes, black is blue(tooth)! -DrewZilla
Has anybody tried this on a 2009 sportster 1200? Would you recommend it? Bike has drag pipes (free flow) and high flow air filter. Any info would be really useful.
Nikk RaiC did you end up getting one I’m installing drag pipes and trying to figure what to get for tuning
Nikk RaiC got one on my 2011 nightster. In my opinion my engine runs cooler, smoother starts up without hesitation and got rid of the decel pops. Did you buy it?
This sounds too good to be true. And you know what they say about that... there ALWAYS HAS to be some downsides to a product l. What are they?
Awesome! Thanks for all the reviews. You guys rock
Do they do this for a 2007 Street Bob
Indeed they do! -DrewZilla
*www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/cobra-fi2000-powrpro-black-for-harley-dyna-2007
That link takes me to the Power Pro Black, I dont want anything that needs a smart phone, just the Power Pro plug and go as shown in the video, is that still available ?
No, it's been discontinued unfortunately. -DrewZilla
Bummer
Yamaha raider fi2000 popping
What causing it to popping?
Is this only for Harley?
Garrett Toner Yes, it's Harley specific. -Hi-Viz Brian
***** a metric sport bike. I liked the advantages over a power commander
***** i didn't realize this was a cobra specific product but still a neat product! I have a '14 CB 500
***** thanks lemmy! Ill check it out
ZLA Lemmy does cobra make the fi2000 powrpro for a 2014 Indian Chieftain? if not, is there another product that is plug and play, no mapping like this? thanks very much.
Junk, out of the box it did not work, now it is sitting back with Cobra, its been 2 weeks, no communication from Cobra, I sent them an email about 6 days ago, no response. Don't waste your money on this item. also had pairing issue with my phone.
i had it .. it worked for 1 year then i had to throw it , it's garbage
N.M K. How do you know it went bad?
Lost the engine power .. started to switch off while driving .. bad fuel delivery to engine
Junk
Please elaborate! Don't bother making a comment if you are unwilling to explain why. It could be some petty ass reason why you say junk. On the other hand you could have experienced real issues with the device. It would be nice to know the issue. Not just junk! With no explanation.
Junk. If you want plug and play stick with video games.