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Supreme Court to Decide if Felons Can Have Guns?
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- Опубліковано 31 гру 2023
- Today’s video will encompass a discussion about individual rights and the prohibition on those rights due to past criminal activity. In a more direct sense: should convicted felons be able to purchase guns? The knee-jerk reaction to the term “felon” is often construed to mean “serious criminal” and in many instances that is correct. However, the parent term “felony” has been broadened over the years to include all manner of crimes that are not necessarily violent or even malicious. Such is the police state. Who makes such a distinction on what constitutes a serious crime such that civil right that are supposed to be inalienable can be usurped permanently? Today we will focus on just such a case. Vincent V Garland is a case out of the 10th circuit court of appeals in which a woman, who wrote a bad check for a little under five hundred dollars fifteen years ago has become a prohibited person. Vincent has since gone on to become a mother of two, a business owner, and a holder of two post secondary degrees. This is productive, peaceable contributor of society that has been stripped of her rights for life l, because she made a bad decision early in life. She is seeking to take her case to the Supreme Court of the United States. Her grounds? No where in the text, history, or tradition of the United States was it common to deny constitutional rights to someone because of a legal infraction, that is until the 1960’s.
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I've been clean and sober for over 7 years now completely changed my life have my own airgun business. I run a multimillion dollar small business in downtown Louisville ky and I have been a giver in the community instead of a taker. Thank God for airguns and they feds not as of now messing with them or I would have no legal way to defend my family. It's a dam shame I'm not the guy I was and pay taxes I contribute but can't defend myself or hunt! I live my life like I am no longer a felon! I go to 2 gun shows 2 times a month I just don't deal in firearms at all! I don't even walk around and look at them trying to follow the law as best I can. is it illegal for me to be there? Yes and No. I am a registered airgun distributor so I'm legal and not there to buy guns I can't help what the person next to me has! thank you for this video we have been given a life sentence even though we served our time!!! Thanks rant over lol
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Suppose a person was sentence to 25 years for a very bad act. But he's let out early for undertermined reasons, say after 15 years. Could a condition of his probation rightly be that he can not possess a weapon, specifically guns, during that time?
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while on probation your so called constitutional rights are revoked. If not on probation or already completeed it and you were NOT away for a violent crime, then you POSSIBLY CAN have a weapon.
Your channel is far from suppressed. The puppet masters and the crown luv these channels that lead the herd to furthermore being good little policy abiding subjects. And workarounds on how not to kneel as hard.
If they are safe enough to let out of prison then all rights should be restored upon release.
I spent almost 17 years as a peace officer (municipal police officer- seven years / deputy sheriff - 10 years) and always believed those who served their sentence should be given their rights back. It is criminal to disallow freed men the right to protect themselves. Thank you for posting the truth.
Jared, Former Cop " You Tube Guns and Gadgets", feels the same way; Admits a time he didn't. God Forgives, even the Worst People, and so should the " SYSTEM". We Cry Aloud in our Society about Prejudice and LABELING PEOPLE, Yet They call someone an Ex Felon. No, Anyone Convicted , is a Person who had Prior Conviction, Period!!, Is a Child, an Ex Cookie Stealer, or is someone an Ex Misdemeanor, Ex Gas Stealer, Ex Thief??? This needs to Stop. They pay their debt to Society and should be 100 percent Free, Restored.
Would be nice if more like you would voice your thoughts on the issue
Help me, please, 41 years ago and still paying for it.
The jury convicted me of attempted murder--- I will never be able to get ccw?
Could you please run for president
If you've served your time, you get ALL your rights back. PERIOD
That's not the way it was back in 1791. Murder and violent acts were a few exceptions to the rule. See: Mark W. Smith, Four Boxes Diner.
So u telling me a gang member kills someone with an illegal gun and gets 40 years. He gets out he should have the right to own a gun?
@@ernestholloway9436 i think we can agree that there are crimes and individuals that surrender their rights due to certain crimes, while in the possession of a firearm, that should never be allowed to walk the streets again
@@ernestholloway9436 I think so if 40 years isn’t long enough give the gang member more time. If they should never be a normal citizen that’s what life sentences are for.
Non Violent Felons.
If the justice system deems a person to be “ safe” enough to live in society then they should have ALL rights restored.
Absolutely So! If they are too dangerous to be able to own guns then they are too dangerous to be allowed out in public unsupervised. Put them away or down.
Secondly anyone who actually believes this theory that somone who is just too dangerous to own guns is somehow not going to be able to get ahold of them just because there is some rule saying they can't have one is living in a fantasy land.
Guns are everywhere and SHOULD be because they are a natural human rate and should NEVER be regulated so that they are hard to get. Even in places where almost nobody has access to firearms the criminals STILL find a way to get them. What point are these infringements if they don't even work on top of hurting good people and are categorically against the Second Amendment?
UNFORTUNATELY YOU HAVE BEEN LIED TO SINCE 1996 THEY WERE DOING A MASS ARREST EXPERIMENT FOR PROFIT TO TAKE AWAY YOUR RIGHTS WAIT TILL YOU FIND OUT THAT 1968 TYRANNICAL GOVERNMENT TRIED TO KILL JFK IS THE SAME TYRANNICAL GOVERNMENT THAT WE HAVE BEEN UNDER SINCE 1960S FACT
UNITED STATES MARINE: (From Boy to Man/Husband/Father, to Grandfather)
50 years ago was my (3rd) third Non-Violent/Victimless DUI ... (Simple pullover arrests!)
All offenses were VOID OF VICTIM, INCIDENT, ACCIDENT, and DAMAGED PARTY.
After serving (6) years as a front-line Marine during the Iranian crisis (1979), (Before having a wife, children, and grandchildren) returning to civilian life (Honorable Discharge) was difficult...
Can the Bruen decision help this 67-year-old United States Marine regain his gun right for family and home protection after 50 defenseless prohibited years?
When DUI arrests have NO victim, NO incident, NO accident, and NO damaged party, the 2nd Amendment "Right/Privilege" should never rightfully be "eternally abrogated", ever!
- USMC (Semper Fidelis) SGT E-5 (5811)
Text. History. Tradition. As a combat veteran and felon now (non violent/non sexual). I feel like a second class citizen in the very country I bled for. I truly feel like a change is on the way for the millions of Americans who were wrongfully stripped of their god given rights. You earned a lifetime subscriber sir 🇺🇸
🫡 thank you sir.
Thank you sir.
I've got a case but need to talk to somebody I only served 8 / mos this happened 24 / yrs ago paid 3.750 to get my right restored I got them but need TU to talk don't want to those who charged me 3.750
They did the same to me (USMC) over one email to a CIA traitor, where I never personally threatened him at all. Didnt even know what state he lived in.
Did the same to me in 1994 when i pointed a gun at a cocaine dealer who tried to give some to my GF at the time. Got a bunch of blackpowder arms including two nice Remington 1851 Army revolvers they can't touch. The are .44 cal and the cylinder can be exchanged to carry .44 long cartridges. I was in the Army and got discharged under honorable conditions and now illegal aliens have more rights than I do.
Not just firearms, but voting too.
Why do people think felons can't vote? In Texas I voted for Trump not long after I got out. Also a violent felon already legally concealed carrying BP revolver
They already gave us that back, I'm a nonviolent felon, and I still can't hunt with anything other than bows, but I can vote
I’m one of those people who was a felon. My charges included robberies, burglaries, assaults, among other crimes. I recently received a pardon from the governor. I completely changed my life and for 15 years I couldn’t defend my family legally even though I had been serving as a minister at a church for years, and had not been in any trouble. The situation literally can forces you to either remain unarmed and depend on the police, or illegally arm yourself and further put yourself in jeopardy of being arrested and taken from the very family you desire to protect. Those who do the time given should be wholly restored once free.
That's awesome man, I have friends/family with a hard past so I've seen first hand the economic and mental barriers that felons have to overcome to get their lives on track. We certainly all deserve the same rights.
@@unarmored9973 I appreciate you! Sorry for the late response. UA-cam doesn’t notify me when people respond.
Congratulations. What state did you receive your pardon in? I'm in Florida and still waiting after completing my sentence 28 years ago. I served 10 months for four felonies.
Were you able to have a firearm legally once pardoned?
Good for you. I have to ask Biden. I can't even get a steak with my spork.
YES!! My father is a convicted felon, he has also been out of jail, off parole, and at church every Sunday for the past 20 yrs. He is also a Airforce CCT vet (79-83), and made sure that all his children new firearms safety despite his inability to own them himself. Now, all 4 children are adults and and we all own guns, and 3 of us have ccw's. The fact that my father is can not shoot .22lrs in the backyard with any of his kids or grandkids infuriates me to no end.
SO WHAT ,WHAT WAS HIS CRIME ?EVERYONE IS A JAIL HOUSE LAWYER.
Be careful of wearing your CCW around him. The "constructive possession" laws could subject him to arrest if he "COULD" take possession of your firearm or was within arms reach of it.
Constructive possession is what they charge when they don't have a real crime.
"You were close enough. You could have taken possession so you are guilty of constructive possession."
@@ROBERTMORAN-mv7eq You sound like an asshole
Shall not be infringed.. means no laws shall be passed against that amendment
Fringe..like the frayed ends of a blanket w fringe..
It implies an actual physical rending of the material, from the ends towards the middle.
Thus, UNINFRINGED means a whole cloth.
The wording used by the ppl who wrote this? Means whole clothes and not frayed in any way, by any means, not at any time, not by anyone.
Our fire ears used words if E glish, but minus our newfangled idiomatic useages.
Uninfringed means whole.... whole cloth.
Laying down the gauntlet?
Now beat that, Clarence!
Exactly, even Congress does NOT have the right to re-write the constitution.
You are absolutely correct! If the courts think they are too violent, why are you releasing them to the public? They should also restore their voting rights
The government cannot hold a person whom the government believes is too violent. After the prison term is served the felon must be released, unless adjudicated insane.
Absolutely 💯 agree 👍
Every person is a felon... eventually according to Demtraitors agenda!
Voting rights are restored after parole is finished. Everyone should be able to have and buy firearms in the USA as under the constitution… regardless of criminal past offenses.
@@CC-eu2mm I been out of prison for over 10 years now and still can't vote
If you can be trusted to walk free throughout society, you should be trusted with a firearm.
If you can’t be trusted with a firearm, you have no business walking free among society.
My stance on this should ruffle some feathers. If you've committed a felony and you serve your sentence. You've paid your debts to society and should have ALL your rights back.
Yes. If you are not in prison, you should have all of your rights. The treatment of people who have served their debt to society in this country is the civil rights issue of our time.
Personally, I would say if your sentence is served, including parole. Parole should basically be a testing period to see if someone's rehabilitation has stuck.
If you go and break the law during that period, I feel like you should redo the original sentencing. Or the new crime's sentence. Whichever is greater.
I have run into multiple senior citizens who told me they can't own a firearm because of a felony drug charge as a teenager, meaning 18, 19, or even 20 years old. These charges many times are literally 3, 4, or 5 "decades" ago.
I'm is over 41 years non-violent and can't vote or get a fire arm.
That sounds like a scam
Absolutely yes. Give people their rights back after they've been released
I just don't understand why "shall not be infinged" can be vague or argued about!!
EXACTLY! Once you get convicted of a felony or in some cases any crime the justice system tries so hard to make you have no other choice but to commit more crimes in order to survive....hate this county so much...
We have someone in Michigan going through the same thing except he had his conviction expunged for something that he did 15 years ago then the atf came and stole his guns saying that he doesn't have the right to have them this system is so corrupt and it's getting worse
The government is out of control
Im 52, aprox 25 years ago i was going through a divorce & was left a single father of 2. Going through a hard times, my van was in the process of being repoed, i opened the door & told the guy to get the f#@K out of my car. Well, i got charged with auto theft AND car jacking, the auto theft suck & i was convicted. So, 25 years later im re married to a teacher, a son at home in college, we live in a rural area & do remote camping, I am not legally able to have a firearm to even protect my family if need be. We own 2 homes with property, work pay taxes, have wholesome hobbys & i have no legal right to possess a firearm for a stupid mistake i made 20+ years ago.
As an immature young man, at age 20 I made some bad decisions and was arrested by the ATF and FBI for various firearms and violent offenses. I was eventually sentenced to 168 months, of which I served about 144. I was released from federal prison in September of 2020. During my incarceration I was able to remain free of disciplinary action, I kept a steady job, did college courses and other rehabilitation-centered programming, and generally tried to better myself. I am now 35 years old father of 5 kids, and I would love to be able to properly defend my family from any threat of violence against them. I can't do that, thanks to the laws that are currently in place. What makes no sense to me is how Congress criminalized the means of self-defense. I can understand having laws on the books which punish using a firearm to commit a crime, such as I did 15+ years ago, but to criminalize simply owning a firearm is wrong and unconstitutional. This law, 18 USC 922(g), needs to be done away with, period. Even 15 USC 7901(a)(1-2) and (b)(2-3) make it clear that Congress knows better than to have passed such a law as one that criminalizes someone who exercises a Constitutional right. Let's fix this!
Right! If your given your 2nd ammendment rights and you use a gun in a crime make it mandatory life without parole! That won't be a problem for those who only want to protect their family or others they may be with! I would agree to that!
It's less about an abusive law. Than the abuse use of a label holding an "active" meaning of the word felon. In my 18 USC 2113 (a) and 924(c) resulted from an active event and carried an active 166 months plus 3 years supervision. But Jan 2012 that became inactive and took on a past thence meaning. The meaning of an ex felon carries as much real time value as my ex living fathers capacity to effect the his old job at the school board.
The 2A community should also address the Lautenburg amendment which makes MISDEMEANOR CONVICTIONS eligible for life time disarmament, anyone who has served their sentence should have ALL their rights wether it is a felony or a misdemeanor
props to that lady for suing the AG. wish everyone would.
I agree with you; if a person is not safe enough to own a gun, why are they not locked up?
💯 agree with you. In my opinion, violent or not, when a felon completes their parole, they should get back all their rights.
I paid my dues for a crime I committed back in 2007trying to get money the wrong way. I've never been back to prison since and now I'm a single father raising my little girl alone and it makes me so mad knowing we have such a crooked government who won't let me protect me or mine. I pray to God that something changed cuz it's the government whose making our country dangerous.
It's a defacto government operated by a corporation.
I think black powder cap and ball revolvers are legal for anyone to own. Check your local jurisdiction.
It is not ideal......but it will do
@@rururu5630 I checked that out as soon as I moved here to Nevada from Cali and it's still illegal here in Nevada also . Thanks for trying o help tho it's good to see there's still people that care.. God Bless You
You knew better. I have zero care.
@@DaveL9170 that's ok just shows what kinda person you are. You know dang well you've made some mistakes in your life only difference between me and you is you didn't get caught.. grow up
Heck!! I have a non- violent felony charge 23 years ago and I cant even own or possess a simple berna launcher for self defense and I live near a very rough neighborhood. I can't even have pepper spray according to NC state law. All I want to do is work, come home and keep my family safe.
I lost my right for residue of a controlled substance when a K-9 alerted during a DUI checkpoint which led to a vehicle search of a vehicle I wasn’t driving nor owned🤷🏼♂️😡!!! I have a beautiful wife, 12 year old son and a new 8 month old baby girl and I’m told I can’t defend them or myself! It’s not ok!!!!!
Same situation here. Paraphernalia misdemeanor charge in MD.
Same here JUST RESIDUE smh
I had some resin from my weed pipe.
Served 22 months on a 4 year sentence. Completed parole...
My felony is legal in other states...
However, by State law, I can own a gun for home defense... yet Federally, I'm permanently stripped of 2A rights...
Funny stuff, haha 😒.
Here's to hope, people 🙏... maybe one day.
Bro.. just get your wife to buy some, she can still have them
As I see it if you're safe enough to be out of prison you should be able to have your rights restored. Wanting to have a firearm to defend yourself after release should not be the reason you find yourself back in jail.
yes, someone that does stupid stuff when they are young, goes to prison and looses some of the best years of their life, gets out and turns their life around and is being punished for the rest of his life. it's all part of the plan. it's all about control.
This year will be 30 years clean for me. I was caught up in drugs. I did my time and paid my fines but will always be labeled a felon. I hope they correct this one day soon.
I’m a convicted felon with a non violent history. I totally agree with you on this matter. I’ve been sober/clean for 10 years now. My last offense was in 2011 but I’m still unable to vote or own a firearm. Although I’m from Texas so state law says I can have home defense but federal laws prohibit me from legally buying firearms. Catch 22
Thank you my friend. Im a 35 year old grown man. When i was 17 i lost my father to cancer, i took it extremely hard and fell bad into drugs and alcohol. I proceeded to get into trouble a handful of times, non violent felony possesion charges. Its been over 10 years since my sentences were completed and my debt to society paid. But, as we all know, im still not able to own fire arms. In my state, N.H. the gun laws are VERY laxed. No permits required, private sale is legal, ammo purchase only requires ID to prove over 18 or 21 depending where you go. But you CANNOT possess ammo or a firearm until you pay a bunch of money, hire attorney, go to the courts and have to PLEA your case and try to convince the courts that your not a bad person even years after your debts have been paid. It sucks. We have incredible hunting up where i live. Gun stores are plenty and frankly fun to go in and check out new weapons and accessories. Its a god given right that has been taken from us and labeled as a "privilege" because a group of people just felt like they wanted it to be that way.
Once you are released from prison, you should be able to buy and carry wherever you can afford. Of course, abolish parole and early release.
When I was a know-nothing, information-challenged young LEO back in the '80's I was vehemently opposed to giving ANY rights back to ex-cons, much less giving them access to guns!!! But the (much!) older and wiser and better informed me with a son-in-law that IS an ex-felon (did stupid things with stupid people when he was a kid) says HELL YES they should have the ability to own guns and protect themselves and their families!!! Especially the non-violent, drug-related ex-cons, like my son-in-law. He's SO straight-laced he refuses to have a gun in their home UNTIL he gets his rights restored! His wife, my oldest daughter, has an AR that I assembled for her years ago taking up space in our safe just waiting for that day! I'd literally trust my life, and MORE IMPORTANTLY, the life of my daughter to this awesome young man.
Having access to rim fired firearms, with the constructive possession laws and the fouled understanding of the term "felon" it would be a good idea to download and send in the state and federal reinstatement forms. Only for the protection of himself in the event of an action requiring investigation. Let's say he had to kill an intruder. He is covered in a very large capacity by having put the government on notice of his non felon status. I've known a limited few that have suffered under constructive possession laws. As law enforcement you understand they don't go in looking to have a problem in many cases. But, once you have a problem, it's a real problem. The docs are free and stamps are still cheap. Just an ol retired bank robbers thoughts on the subject. I don't need those additional steps for me black powder .44, as they don't require an ID, background check or even my name to acquire it. Rim fire is the one on the books with teeth.
If they have served there debt to society they have restored there rights imo
I always thought that when it's time served, means time is completed, ijs. We should deal with anything else as it happens, not since it happened.
Once out of prison you should GET ALL of your rights back. If you are that much of a danger you should still be in prison.
Facts and I'm so glad so many in the comments see it this way.
One of the biggest problems is that the word "felon" no longer has a real definition. It doesn't mean anything. Now it's just how much time the terrorist organization wants to imprison you for any given disobedience. So felonies aren't defined by violence, or injury of any type, and peaceful, victimless disobedience is labeled a felony if the government wants to cage you for a certain amount of time. It's absolute despotism. Secondly, there is no qualification to the second amendment. It's a straight forward ban on government action.
exactly!
You're 1000% correct sir. I don't always agree with you... but this one, absolutely, you are correct. Can't argue with anything you said in this video.
Imo, regardless of the crime, once the penalty is served, i.e. sentence, probation/ parole. Their rights should be fully restored.
As a caveat, if an individual dealer decided they didnt want to sell said person a gun, then that should be ok as well.
Once time is served, leave it up to the dealer.
"Law abiding" is a fallacy, it doesn't have to be serious, but anyone claiming that, has broken the law in some way, they just weren't caught.
I agree. Shall not be infringed. Everyone counts once the government comes for us.
I had a felony in CA in 1967. I went to Youth Authority.
I subsequently petitioned the court to have the conviction set aside and dismissed. This was granted on 10/31/1972.
I applied for my CCW in CO and was denied. Even though my set aside is on my CA record, and my FBI record, the state of CA told the sheriff that my set aside was not a "true set aside" even though no such term exists in law or fact.
I have an AZ CCW but I can't get one in my own state.
Florida just had their CCW requirement shot down as unconstitutional. It's a means to infringe
This case is particularly important for those with federal convictions. You are correct that many states allow for restoration of 2A rights, but there is no active pathway for federal ex-felons to have those rights restored. Once all terms of sentence have been satisfied, all rights should automatically be restored rather than forcing a person to jump through hoops and, in many cases, spend a good deal of money for the "opportunity" of having their rights restored.
I know a guy that had a felony in the early 90's, made a huge turn, became a gov't contractor, was granted a security clearance, spent more than a decade in direct support of the military overseas, and ended up with a master's degree who, as a federally convicted ex-felon is not able to regain his 2A rights. Insanity.
This is done by design. The terrorist organization pretending to be our government wants to disarm as many Americans as they can. Using the fraudulent criminal justice system is how they do it. They don't want you to be able to defend yourself against them.
All that is required to "protect" yourself in an investigation into your possession is your good faith action of filing your paperwork. Their bad faith effort to hinder you by defunding a hearing' is not a winner for them, It just holds you back from your purchasing power. That too could be forced upon a local federal court. All you need to do is file your pardon request, for legal protection under most possession situations.
If the government deems you safe, yes. BUT, when has the government been a good judge of character?
It also affects the family due to constructive possession . My daughter cannot have a pistol in a lock box due to her husband's past charges. He has been a good man for going on 20 years now.
the state and federal forms are free to download and file. he is most likely safe for life in his current situation. but, should some investigation into the home ever take place, for any reason, you are correct. He could be subject to constructive possession laws. So file and understand the value of good faith efforts on his behalf. Even if the government never responds to the filing, he still has done the only required thing for full restoration."File" and forget about it on that level.
It was a privilege, in early Greek states, for a man to take a seat in a large amphitheater and have a voice in his government. It was a privilege of being a citizen and was unheard of in older times when monarchs decided everything. Citizens in our nation participate in government by voting and by serving on a jury. Felons of any kind are often deprived of both these privileges as well as having their gun rights stripped away for life. They cannot meaningfully protect themselves or their loved ones nor can they join in a militia if it became necessary. They cannot participate in their own government but they are still required to pay for it through their taxes. Felons ARE second class citizens. They are permanently stripped of certain rights and constitutional "guarantees" that others enjoy.
Any felon who paid thier debt, served thier time and parole shoul not lose hier rights
If you have to pay taxes and you are mentally well! You should be allowed to Vote and own Guns!
The problem is they stay fucking with words and definitions, so what you and I may deem “mentally well” could be totally different.
They wanted to fine and quarantine people for not participating in a medical experiment…. So I don’t trust um or what they deem mentally well
@@contractor556 this is true!
So long as "mentally well" means "not presently involuntarily confined".
@@2Truth4Liberty 💪🏿
I have a question: what is the difference between a right and a privilege? I keep hearing about "gun rights", and the government's overwhelming desire to abolish these "rights"of the US citizens to keep and bear arms. But as it stands today, is it actually a right? Or is gun ownership a privilege? In 1968, convicted felons were no longer allowed to have firearms. Law abiding citizens still have a "right" to possess a firearm. The second amendment still holds true. Then in the 1990s, any convictions or accusation of a domestic dispute, misdemeanor or felony, terminated your right to possess firearms. Next came mental health issues. Anyone deemed mentally unfit could no longer purchase or possess guns. Today, any anonymous person can call and say they don't think you're fit to own a firearm. Bad temper, use of drugs, prescribed medications, next door neighbor doesn't like you, ex spouse wants to teach you a lesson. A few phone calls to the right people with sketchy information, and you lose your gun rights. Without due process of law. Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but by definition, is this still a right? To me, it bears the unmistakable odor of a "privilege". A privilege bearing the scars of too many infringements. Our elected officials are not upholding the constitution, they are eviscerating it. I am a felon and I have been to prison more than once. I've noticed that during the time I was inside looking out, anything that was done in the United States, such as smoking bans, gun control, etc., it was done in prisons and to convicted felons first. Tested on the walls to find out what the sheep will do. Thank you for your time
read the bill of rghts
The 2nd amendment is as valid as the other 26. They cannot take away the 1st, 4th, 5th, or 8th because of past deeds or any other reason. You are "the people" and that is who is protected under the bill of rights.
Gimme one good reason Martha Stewart shouldn't be able to have a firearm.
On the stock market channels we always hear that a certain bunch of people just simply give up looking for work. The fact is; the word felon is stigmatized so much that a lot of people won't even think about hiring ANY felon for any job. Fortunately, there are people willing to give others a chance to live out a normal life.
Thank you brother for bringing up this subject!
I am a green card holder and non violent felon.
Because of pity crimes I committed since the 90s.
I cannot travel to go visit my aging family! If I leave the country as felon I will not be allowed to reenter the US!
That is I will lose my house, my job etc!
Completely agree, and our ‘corrections’ system should focus on doing just that, but effectively!
I'm a felon for selling 2 houses for cash . Because they said since the buyer had cash I should of known he was a drug dealer. Even though I went to the county sheriff and he told me I wasn't breaking any law so I did it. I reported the money to my taxs and the feds threatened me to be indicted if I didn't take a plea. My lawyer advised me to take the plea 5 years probation 25k fine and 15k to my lawyer. For a class E felony Missprison of a felony is my charge. Witch is a misdemeanor in my state. But it's a federal charge. So I'm never allowed to hunt or have protection for my family.
Dude you got seriously boned by your attorney. Sorry man. I got screwed by my attorney too. Same kind of deal. 35 years ago. Sucks.
@@jimig399me too
I have a non violent felony conviction of mishandling a firearm in a motor vehicle it wasn’t properly stored while moving from home to home in 2020 I have not been charged with any violent crimes I have been a hunter since I was 6 33 now and it kills me to not be able to go and feed my family with a past time I have enjoyed my whole life
I fully agree with VSO. What example is there of any law dating around 1791 that permanently deprived a released former felon of their Constitutional rights? If they were that much of a danger to society, they were executed, or were not released.
Our present system locks offenders into constant danger of being returned to incarceration. Although they served their time for whatever offense (the list of which is continually expanding), they are prohibited from participating in any substantial profession (i.e. accountant, doctor, attorney, engineer, computer technician, etc.) and monitored, such that it interferes with obtaining employment. Employer's premises and computers are subject to warrantless search, so that the employer is unwilling to employ the former felon. The former felon is hounded, so that they are under constant stress. If they break emotionally, prison awaits.
And how about the fact that so many laws exist that neither the citizen, nor lawyer can know them all. Did you know that it is a felony to pick up and raise a baby bird? or possess a feather of an eagle, that you happened to find? It is said that the average citizen commits 3 felonies per day. That places all of us in danger of permanently losing our Constitutional rights.
I agree to a certain degree, my issue is that if you have had a violent person commit a crime against another including the use of a firearm that no matter the circumstances you forfeit your rights! I think that we have have gone overboard on taking people’s rights away.
I always appreciate your ideological consistency and your focus on the 2nd amendment as a civil right.
Lol. I yelled 'yes' to your question just before you did. I'm glad the general consensus has come around on this one.
I lost my rights when I was 18 for dwi car wreck and me and some friends did a crash and dash from gas station and was charged for burglary I'm now 50 and been free for 22 years and haven't even got a traffic ticket.
Happy New Year from Boise, Idaho. If you did your time in jail and not for a violent crime, you deserve to be able to protect yourself as the constitution seems fit.
I’m saying even if it’s a violent crime. Manslaughter for instance. If you went to prison for 20y for it and you are released, you should be good. If not, then you should still be in
@@VSO_Gun_Channelyou need to wake up. How about this? How about you come ride on patrol with me one night so I can show you first hand what violent felons do to others??? You live in dream land buddy. You’re a child.
I don’t care what the crime was. If you’ve served your time, you deserve to be restored to a citizen with full rights.
I absolutely support felons having their gun rights returned, always glad to see people talking about this since it's often not considered by many people. Felony status creates second class citizens, people that have to live and work with the rest of us in society but don't get all the benefits from it -even after decades of proving themselves "worthy" of trust.
I mean, it's only part of the issue though, a felony shouldn't be for a 500 dollar check, even a 5000 dollar check, government just tosses out felonies as fast as it can for whatever it can.
Thank you VSO GC. I'll have to review it, but I thought the 'Range' case covered the "non-violent felon" instance of denied rights.
Oh yeah, definitely agree with you, just like David Correa points out as well:
--- Do the crime, serve the time, rights restored because you're trusted to leave custodial care (includes those adjudicated to involuntary commitment) and safe enough to rejoin society. ---
I can’t hit the like button enough times with how you started this video with your unequivocal YES!
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
What part of “shall not be infringed” is so hard to understand?
my father, who is a dumb ass, knew he was going to get a divorce. He was still living in the same house as his soon to be ex-wife. He went to radio shack, and bought a machine that plugged into the home phone line, that recorded all calls automatically, onto cassette tapes. His wife, said many things that without question, hands down, would harm her ability to have primary custody of my half sibling.
he submitted these tapes to the family court, as per his attorneys instructions. The judge ruled them inadmissible because they were illegally obtained. Even though it was his phone and a commercially available product, even though his attorney told him to. The DA had him indicted for felony wire tap charges.
My dad, is a narcissist. When he was offered a plea, reduced to 1 class A misdemeanor he said nah. Fought the case, lost. 8 years felony probation, and he lost his right to defend his family.
He is the only person in Texas history to be convicted of "unlawful intercept by wire". Every time, he gets pulled over, they wait for back up, and then ask him what that charge and conviction even means. People assume he kidnapped somebody or did some type of hacking.
Not only did this financially cripple our single parent family, I lost my ability to bird hunt with my father. Something I always wanted and have never gotten the chance to do.
Not all felons are violent. Not all felons have done something wrong. There are more felonies, than we can even count, and they come up with new ones ALL THE TIME.
for example, you try to return a shoplifted item for 10$. That's a felony in texas. They will remove your right to bear arms, for the rest of your life, over something 1/80th the value of grand larceny.
I guess im glad he didnt have to do 8 years and 8 summers in no a/c texas prison. but, god damn, its so unfair.
I will add a bit on the “violent crime “ designation. I was in an unhappy place and turned to booze. I was black out drunk and got in a really bad wreck. Thank the lord no one died, but I did hit another vehicle. The lady driving had her hand broke. Yes it could have been way worse. I fully excepted responsibility, and did not fight at all. They gave me a plee deal. That deal was vehicular assault (which my court appointed attorney told me happens to anyone involved in accident in which body harm accrued) and dui. Two separate charges, unassociated with each other. The vehicular assault is an F6 felony in my state, most states only goto F3.
To me a violent offender means to harm. But the ways laws are written, they can turn an accident into an intentional act.
In no way was what I did ok, and I know and feel that in my heart every day. But I don’t think I should have lost a god given right because of it. (Been sober over 10yrs now)
RESTORE OUR. RIGHTS. NOW...👍👍👍👍👍😎
as a former combat MARINE and former state trooper I'm gonna make this very simple for everyone to understand i took an oath to defend and protect the constitution of every single AMERICAN with or without a record so i say this strongly it doesn't matter if it's violent or nonviolent your 2nd amendment cannot not be taken away no matter what he or she has done. it doesn't matter if you have a legal or an illegal firearm if you commit a crime with it you are going to jail with or without a record its that simple. a firearm is to hunt for food and to protect yourself & family. it doesn't matter if you commit a crime with or without a firearm you are being charged for the crime itself and you are going to pay for that crime it's that simple. i still don't know what part of INFRINGED in the 2nd amendment these lawmaker's do not understand. you take away a person's right to protect themselves you make he or she a permanent victim & prey
As long as their crime us a non-violent one, I see no issue. I mean the fact that someone can go to prison, do their time, pay any restitution they owe, but when they get released they are less of a citizen is BS. I mean if they can fit their right to vote back, and still have all the other constitutional rights, why is owning a firearm any different
I served for 27 years as a LEO.
I firmly believe that a person who has served their time and is not on any type of parole or probation should absolutely have ALL their rights restored without question!!!
They gave me 35 year on a felon possession of a firearm. I have never gottin that much time for anything on my record. Imagin that.
If there were a law to disarm anyone prior to 1968, wouldn't it still be on the books?
In the case of non-violent misdemeanor felony type, it should be allowed after restitution.. I'm not waiting for a governor's pardon, in which we know it's a sham!!!❤❤❤❤
Rahimi isn't about felons, though. It's about DV Orders. The Range case is about felons.
It still deals with 18USC 922 g Prohibited Persons and is therefore relevant.
If the Cops are armed
Everyone Else ought to Armed
The same issue is already before the U.S. Supreme Ccourt in the Range case. (23-374)
Not granted yet, but is likely to be.
I agree non-violent offenders need their rights restored. Especially of federal felony as there is no path forward to restore one’s rights as opposed to some states that allow rights to be restored.
EVEN PAY MONEY TO GET YOUR RIGHTS RESTORED STATE LEVEL AND ATF STEALS YOUR GUNS SUCH BULLSHIT DISBAND CRIMINAL ORGANIZATION ATF
Does that mean that I should not be restored? As a previously convicted Bank Robber with a short-barrel shotgun? What if I told you we do have a path forward, Just File and you have some protection under possession of rim fired arms, with good faith. You don't even need good faith to have a black powder .44 cal hand cannon, like mine. A fine protective device that would remove an arm or leg at 30 ft.
I Thank God for Michigan. A few years my ex wife attacked me. I called the police but because she was a woman I went to jail. I hired a lawyer to help me get it off my record. I owned a gun but I was a felon I couldn't own a gun. Three years ago Michigan passed a law if u stayed out of trouble for 5 years my record could be Expunge. I'm happy to say it took me 6 years but my record is now cleared. The first thing I went and got? A Springfield hellcat pro gun.
You got it exactly right and let’s also remember that after ten years from the end of your probation and parole federal law says under the definition of a felon you are not considered under the definition a (felon)
How long is this going to take? I completed my felony sentence in 1995; my civil rights were restored in 2005. I applied for a full pardon in 2009, and in 2022 I received a letter denying a hearing and a pardon. By the way, I live in Florida. I need to find an attorney to sue or get my case to the SC to get my gun rights back.
If they can have the privilege of driving a vehicle (which can be used to kill, murder and harm), they should at the minimum have their Right to bear arms restored completely as a citizen of the U.S.
You did your punishment, there should be no stipulations afterwards. The government wants to keep their foot on your neck.
Hi and thanks for this. Yes if you're walking around free,all rights should be restored. All or none.
I have been disenfranchised since 2005 for under a quarter of marijuana. I need a simple pardon and to petition the court for my gun rights back. Virginia has an online form to apply for a simple pardon, but they ask 5 questions and limit your response to 1000 characters. So, I would need a lawyer and with the way the world is and my state it makes it hard finding work especially with all the illegals coming in they do not have to check a box. All places I could rent deny me because I have to check a box. I only needed 16 years for the pardon and I am at 18 years and feel it is only getting harder to work towards my goal of freedom. Very sad in my opinion especially with the government trying to devalue freedom everyday.
I got my rights taken away for throwing a rock at someone and hitting his car,I was 19 and my judge refused me the right to pay for the damage and said and I quote I'm gonna make an example out of you and he gave me 4 years in prison
I will also point out that politicians have no problem restoring your voting rights when it benefits them but I say if you have the right to vote then you are part of “We The People” and have full rights as a citizen including the 2nd amendment.
A felon or misdemeanor should not have to pay thousands of dollars for an attorney to get his/her gun rights back.
the docs are free, the stamps are cheap and your covered in large part just by your efforts in good faith. File
I was convicted of a crime I did not commit I have always been a very productive person in society. I have never found a need to own a gun, but as a convicted felon I’m not even allowed to vote. I’m getting my rights restored they tell me no it’s been 33 years and I’ve never committed to any other crimes. All I do is work at home. I am a workaholic now I want the second amendment I’ve held. I believe our forefathers said once you page your debt to society you are a freeman not in his sleep system.
I support what she is doing i to have had my rights stolen for a bad check. And I'm facing possession of weapon charges to protect myself no crime committed possession
Yup because not all felonies are equal. Folks say if you do the crime you’ll do your time. Well if that’s true you would have a clean slate when you get out of prison, clearly that’s not the case.
"The right of the PEOPLE to keep and bear arms" the term "people" is defined by the Supreme Court as, 332 U.S. at 89. Here "people" refers to every human being, regardless of status, and excludes corporations.
$940. Non violent, non drug related, 1996 conviction. Family dispute that got out of hand.
The issue with rahimi is that during his possession he had neither charged nor convicted of a crime. He had an active restraining order founded on claims of abuse. However, rahimi was later proven to be an offender. It has been stated that the later offenses have no bearing in that case, and the scope is to be on whether or not a domestic v restraining order constitutes the removal of gun rights
I wrote some bad checks when I was in my 20s and the felony conviction ended my gun ownership. I can hunt with my kids, I can’t defend myself, I couldn’t vote and it was hard to find work. So I went back to school and became a paramedic and made it all the way to critical care paramedic. I did not have real issues getting my license (I did jump through some hoops and had a face to face with the board and when IL changed the laws barring felons from working in healthcare I was 1 of only a few to get exemption. I never accepted no and always tried to find a solution. After being in EMS for 15 years with countless life saves under my belt, getting children in need investigated, and even sat with a SA woman wrapped in a sheet for hours under a tree until she agreed to get in my ambulance for treatment and many more moments just like so. I have missed big events in my kids lives because of work and late 911 calls. One thing I could never get was my gun rights back. My voting rights were restored but not my gun rights. The application is a joke and most has nothing to do with getting your rights back. They wanted letters from the judge and prosecutor office to write a letter in support of my request. The also wanted a letter from my local police department but it was only recommended. My credit report had to be positive with debts paid off. You had to have time between your conviction and application but they never state how much time and 5 years was the minimum but 10 was the sweet spot per my lawyer. You have to agree to getting searched by the state police, this is random and it could be anytime after you apply. Everything goes to the parole board and they would send it to the governor with their recommendation. The ATF does have a process for federal felony convictions but congress has defunded that part of the ATF so they have never restored a persons rights.
Happy New Year. Looking forward to more 2A wins again this year!!!
Yes, they should have that right restored.
Yes, shall not be infringed.