As a small manufacturer of carbon fibre parts, it REALLY bugs me when some one comes to me and says "I can find that on eBay for way cheaper". Finally someone said something about it!
Claase Design Haha I'm friends with an aircraft builder /reengineer... I took him to a show and he was quite amused with the average products out there in composites. Like a real hood would be 1000$ , but the eBay one is 359 shipped. That's because it's just a layer of cf on the top and bottom and the rest is old school fiberglass.
Perfect example! I've seen this so many times haha. Maybe people will eventually come to realise that it does actually cost more to get a quality piece.
As a tuner and engine builder, I've found no matter what your prices, somebody somewhere will ALWAYS tell you this! I just say politely to them: "If you can get it cheaper somewhere else, feel free to buy from there - and when it breaks, I'm happy to build it for you properly!"
Kj16V exactly i dont buy from ebay but at least you have the option and more expensive does not mean always better. sometimes your just buying the name.
rotary love I just got some nos parts for my old Jetta off there, I'd kinda be screwed without that source. But yea, turbo kits and big wings? I'll pass.
Joel Cairns True, I agree, who gives a shit about how much money you put in a build or if you use eBay parts, you are not a expert but a Enthusiast. Period. Everyone categories themselves to be recognized. My build is my way, if people want to throw their opinion on it that's fine whether it positive or negative. No one is better than anyone else an if you think you are cause you spent more money on your build your a tool. Everybody in the car community deserves respect. Remember you are just a Car Enthusiast.
That's kinda shallow I think. If you think your hobby/profession/anything is damaged by some "amateur", than just stand up for it and tell them your standpoint. Nonetheless, I did feel like you do, but I am not anymore. I was annoyed by shitty drummers "ruining drumming" but then I realized they are just trying to have fun and everybody started that way, so I am over this mentality.
1-The guy that buys rims.coilovers and stickers for his car and telling people that he has a ''Built not bought'' car 2-The guy revs all the time with his 29.99$ Exhoust in meets. 3-The Guy thinks his dream car is the best car ever made 4-The guy talks shit about ford because he likes chevy .BMW Audi-Toyota Nissan-Lexus Infiniti-Ferrari Lamborghini-Subaru Mitsubishi etc..... 5-The guy thinks all imports are ricers or all american cars can't turn. 6-The guy thinks Miatas are for gays 7-The guy goes to single track day and suddenly becomes a Pro racer 8-The guy has no idea how to change oil but still trying to impress people with talking the specs of his car. 9-The guy gets an stanced car and telling people that he has an race car 10-The guy thinks getting a cold air intake for an low hp car adds +40 hp
CAR GUY they gay Miata thing is a car guy joke. We all love those gay little cars we just hate to admit how great they actually are haha. I'm actually picking one up as a daily soon.
Sometimes jokes or "stereotypes" tend to go to far with other people.... At times it gives others an excuse to talk individuals down, which is what I'm assuming CAR GUY is mentioning. Sweet dude! Have fun with that Miata! ;)
Those types of enthusiasts maybe annoying but in my mind there's only one group ruining car culture: the speculators who push the cost of cars far past what most people can afford. I hate people who see cars as an investment.
That would be the number 1... people who just buy cars to store them as an investment. I get it for certain cars. How many Ford GT's do you think will actually get driven? It's depressing to think of the answer. Some need stored, yes, but for F's sake you only live once.
Those things depreciate fast so I don't really see a point in not using them for what they were made to do. What, you gonna sell it and lose a bunch of money, or race it, have lots of fun, and make way more than what the cars worth in sponsorship money? These speculators know nothing about cars, and are blinded by greed to not realize that there's a better investment opportunity if they actually drove the cars instead of treating it like it's stock in a company.
agreed. Awful elitists like him are why I avoid certain weekly car meets. There used to be a huge one next to my old apartment and over the course of a few years I watched it die because it became filled more and more with douchy elitists who chased away less serious enthusiasts. Now the meet is almost exclusively dudes with $20k+ dumped into their cars.
My favorite fake fact that I've heard from people about my own car, an '83-'85 RX7, is that "It has a front subframe from a early Foxbody Mustang". I also hear it ridiculously often... UGH.
I guess? That was the era of the Ford Festiva after all, a rebadged Mazda 121. I'm almost positive that it is false though. The Festiva appeared in 1985 and the SA/FB RX7 began production in '78 and apart from the face lift in '83; they didn't exactly change much.
Cobra_ Daytona I’m considering subbing to you because I couldn’t have said it better you don’t have to respect all builds but don’t go up to someone and be like YOUR CAR IS SO AWFUL I’DBE ASHAMED TO DRIVE THAT but if they ask your opinion tell them what you thinks it’s simple as that
I'm speaking as a tech that works at a body shop. Do you know how much work it takes to make scissor doors fit properly on a car that didn't have them OE? the kits themselves need reinforcement. If you find a car with a scissor door kit that kits well and lasted a long time, the technician that installed that shit is a g.
Axel Vanegas hell yeah brother, for me, I don't really have big money to go off on my car but it doesn't mean I don't love it and respect it. If a man loves his ride, thats all that matters
Uriah Siner Haha I saw one today i was a little queasy and wonder what gay trend will happen this year. Me and my friends try to guess it every year but never win.
Why should there be any boundaries towards car culture? I drive an automatic corolla, love cars, don't have much knowledge of internals, but still love cars. I don't think anyone should label car culture as a club where you have to fit in. Just be yourself and if people don't like you, fuck them.
Word. I respect all whips. I'm fortunate enough to have a car I lusted after for years,but I will not diss anybody's car REGARDLESS. Walking because you have to SUCKS!! Spent 2.5 years suspended L's paying off fines. Bay Area Public transpo is pretty damn good,but walking sucks. I'm lucky enough to chose if I want to walk to work,less than mile from home. But I'm always thinking about people that don't have cars,and I really wish EVERYONE had a car, no matter what kind. Even if you must sleep in your car,it's still 5069 times better than sleeping on the Goddamn street somewhere.
As a minor who can realistically only make minimum wage and legally only work 20 hours a week I find it pretty hard not to use ebay as my main source for parts. I certainly dont go around thinking my parts are just as good as genuine name brand products and I would much rather be using a name brand turbo but I honestly just cant afford it. The way I see it if I use the cheaper ebay parts I get to do what I love to do more often. But if I save up for all these name brand parts then most of my time is going to be spent saving up money and doing nothing. I think what you said about these parts being rip offs and them destroying companies is totally true and I agree with everything you said but I thought I would just represent us poor people lol
Philip Brandt he's not faulting people buying cheaper stuff. He's faulting people buying cheap fake stuff and act all hot shit and companies ripping off designs with no originality whatsoever and selling them off for a sixth of the price, i.e. pirates I own a bike instead of a car and also limited genuine parts to the mechanical-operation ones, like lube, engine parts, chains etc. and used China shit for probably the side mirror, handlebars, and grips. I can tell you these cheap stuff, you win at buying them but lose at using them because they wear down real fast and I find myself looking for spare parts already within like 6 months. Once I got a decently paying job, I began replacing them with genuine parts and boy, they last well and using them just feels different. I feel more confident and safe. There's a reason why genuine parts are priced like they are. Other than the branding, marketing, and operational overhead of big companies, you just know that they've been through serious R&D and proper testing before release, and there's always warranty. Unlike China shit, they don't skimp on material and manufacturing costs.
This is going to sound harsh, I don't mean it to talk down to you, but cars are a hobby. Thinking you deserve to be able to put knockoff parts (not cheaper parts, stolen designs) on a car just because you're subject to 'entitlement' thinking. Rather than dreaming, aspiring, and working towards a goal, we as a people seek instant gratification. I personally think you'll never find true gratification in something you did just because that's what you could afford within your few month window rather than looking at a build as a few year process. For example, I have a 3rd gen rx7 that hasn't run for 2 years because I want it done right. I could have taken the cheap shortcuts and got it running quickly, but I would rather know it was done right than done quick.
It's just his opinion, its not a big deal. I shared my opinion and he shared his. Honestly I don't entirely agree with the comment he left but who cares. I just wanted to see if anyone could relate to my situation.
I can kinda relate. I'm a student that works 2 days a week and I live away from home so I have little to put aside for my car. Becuase of this my car itself is a little lunch box (which I love) and there is no huge range of parts. like I want coils and only 3/4 different companies make them so ive never really had the cheap option but I can understand why you would take that route. Just remember to invest into small companies because the more you help them, the more they will help you buliding the community. so in the long run, it may be worth waiting that little longer and saving that little more
Sounds like you don't want people to have fun, man. What the hell. I respect trash crap builds no matter how much I hate them because the build is passion. The build is fun. The build is love. You don't have to respect someones build if you don't want to- but trashing those who respect others builds? Not cool, man. Telling people to stay away from ebay? I don't like ebay parts, I agree that most are shit, but outright shitting on the budget builders who don't have the $500 for an intake who still want to have the fun of jacking around with their car? The people who buy those ebay parts 99% of the time wont have the money to drop on the expensive quality stuff. there is no loss of business. You know who I think the #1 ruiners of the car scene are? Elitist assholes who down everyone else for being in it for the fun. Just not cool, man.
You're a fcking moron if you think buying an intake costs 500 dollars...go get some education bro. Most legit intakes can be bought for as little as 150, with the proper knowledge and resources. My Injen CAI I just ordered costs 217 with free shipping. Not all car parts are expensive man, you just have to know what you're doing and who you're doing business with. Btw, this guy wasn't shtting on other peoples' builds just for the hell of it. He's talking about people who play dubstep out their rusted-out Honda Civics with an eBay ricer wing and annoying as hell poor-quality subwoofer, and tell you crap like "I beat an Enzo once, you wanna race me??" (And they actually mean it...) If your whole goal was to make the riciest (dont know if that's a word or not lol) build for kick and giggles, by all means GO NUTS. I think that's hilarious. Just like guys that saved up their entire lives for that Porsche 911 or Nissan GT-R, save up your money and in due-time, you'll get what you earned.... Sincerely, The 18 year-old who works for retail part-time, while paying for college on his own, and also still pays for his "cutesy" Hyundai Elantra GT all on his own
Alex Gonzalez lol actually depends what car you have the dinan intake for my car was a little over 500 but the one for my other car it ranges above 1.5k.
Maybe if parts manufacturers didn't overprice the hell out of everything people wouldn't buy so many eBay parts. A lot of the stuff on Ebay is pretty much the same anyways. Some "legit" companies even buy stuff from china in bulk, rebrand it and sell it for 4 times the price of the generic eBay brand. I personally think Ebay parts are a really great thing for consumers. It creates competition with parts manufacturers. It keeps prices down and quality up. I also think it's great that somebody can build a car on a budget with (certain) eBay parts and have a car that performs the same as a car with genuine parts. The only downside of it is it hurts the egos of people that spent 4 times as much on genuine parts. And I'm not talking about complex parts like turbos, coilovers etc. I'm talking about things like intercooler piping, downpipes, intakes, intercoolers, radiators, etc. Especially cosmetic parts.
When i was learning to build computers in my late teens. I practiced on DIRT CHEAP parts... intel celerons instead of the pentiums... cheap ass no brand name ram... IDE harddrives while SATA was the new standard. I built and worked on hundreds hundreds... and i got the practical skills of someone who has been doing the job for decades in a few years. When i was 19 i put together 22 PCs from scratch in 8 hours (os and all) By my self. because there was a paperwork mix up and everything came down to the wire. Some of the cable management could have been better but they were all up and running and ready for shipping at the end of the day. Guess what... all those parts were top of the line shit (of the day). Do you know how i was able to do it so efficiently? Because sticking a 10 dollar stick of ram into a slot is the same process as sticking a 50 dollar stick of ram into a slot. I had the practice and repetition and "experience". The people that purchased those dirt cheap PCs btw were POOR and struggling and had no way in hell of paying for a "normally priced" computer.... I saw you call someone privileged in the comments section because they said they are too poor to buy expensive parts... Do you understand that you are actually the privileged one because you are able to buy expensive parts?
Lets not mince words here good friend the fact that they are counterfeit isnt the reason people are buying them... It's because they are cheap. If the original was the same price as the counterfeit then no one would buy the fake. So lets not get away from the real cause and effect here. Brand named parts are expensive Ebay parts are cheap Poor people dont have money So poor people buy the cheaper parts What you are suggesting is taking a LARGE group of people and telling them to not be part of car culture because they arent "cool enough" (rich enough) Do you know how much smaller car culture would be if everyone who has ever bought/used a fake part just upped ant took your advice and just not participate in car culture? I'm a gamer at the age of 15-20 i was literally one step above being a hobo so to play any games I had to pirate like jack sparrow. When i finally got done with schooling and was able to get a steady paycheck the first thing i did was head to the mall and buy a legit copy of Bad company 2 a game that i have pirated and fallen inlove with... Since that day i have never pirated another game. What I am getting at is not everyone is as financially able as you may be. Was i right for pirating when i was broke? FUCK NO! But it got me into hooked into gaming and since then i have probably spent more than 30,000 dollars EASY on gaming related things... Everyone starts somewhere... they arent born with the fire sometimes it takes someone buying an ebay turbo then 10 years later he is the number 1 dragster in his state...
Bullshit. Counterfeit by definition is "made in exact imitation of something valuable with the intention to deceive or defraud". That means putting, for example an HKS label on a generic turbo and passing it off as the genuine thing. Aftermarket, alternative, etc are NOT fucking counterfeit. Best get your shit in order before attempting to denegrate your entire audience. A lot of OEM parts are that bad that uprated, aftermarket parts are produced as they last longer and in a lot of cases have more flexibility in their functionality. So the aftermarket parts that are dearer than OEM are shit too? You don't even know your own shit, saying one thing in a vid then ranting contradictions in the comment section. Which you said at the start of the vid you weren't interested in. Ooh, the irony.
I cant believe I'm actually gonna entertain this reply... sigh. "Uhh.. maybe you should not be playing games & focusing on work or something." - This here is how you cultivate a generation filled with school shooters and mental instability (all work and no play as they say, gaming was my stress relief). And I'm not sure how things work in your country but paying someone under the age of 18 for work done is called "child labor" and its a crime. So getting any job higher than mowing lawns and washing windows is almost impossible. Age 18-24 Is literal 90% of your time in a book or classroom the other 10% is sleep and "unwinding". God I dont believe i have to explain this. "If you cannot afford to do it right, maybe you shouldn't be doing it in the first place." - aaaaaand copy pasting my previous reply to this exact sentiment.... "telling them to not be part of car culture because they arent 'cool enough'" Here is an example of your sentiment applied to other things... Person cant afford a sports car like a Ferrari or a (insert expensive fast car here) you are telling them to either save, work them selves to the bone for decades to buy the "expensive sports car" STAY OUT OF OUR COOL KIDS CLUB ..... and if you buy a Miata and upgrade it you are scum and ruining "sports car culture" "YES. GOOD. It needs to be smaller." - HAHAHAHA you are trying to fix the issue of people buying fake/cheap parts and putting after market parts makers out of business........ by cutting a HUGE portion of their "potential" buyers out of the picture. XD literally shed a tear laughing there. So off the bat i know you arent in marketing cuz you would run that company into the ground so fast. You see all those car shows with sparse crowds? or all those drag strips with half empty bleachers? Lets see all those venues stay open when a large part of "the culture" takes your advice and dips. Lastly im gonna sum up the rest in saying... Do it right from the start huh? So forget the guys who started with nothing but their moms basement and some scrap parts that weren't even supposed to be used in that manner.... if we forget that then i wonder what you would be reading this comment on right now? If people didn't start out somewhere then the world would be in the says of covered wagons and open torches still. As i said before not everyone has what you have ... (steal a line from the feminazis and SJWs *CHECK YOUR PRIVILEGE* bleh ... tasted horrible )
35 year old "software engineer" that thinks you start stimulating a market by nuking half the buyers... oh yeah... not gonna even bother replying past that... good luck engineering your software... leave the marketing to people to do their job. First pc i built (took part in building) had an intel pentium 2 slot processor, an ISA port and like an 800mb harddrive :D the power) Anyway... enjoy killing your pastime.
I agreed with you on the things you said, I even liked your video. Then I saw your "If you're hurt you're poor" comment. Man that comment alone brought you way down low. It expresses so much about your feeble little mind.
I'll always have more respect for someone who put genuine love and passion into their car with cheaper parts than i will for someone who tossed a wad of banknotes at a garage team and left them to it for a week. If a car looks good and runs well, why does it matter that someone else has a functionally identical setup to yours, but spent half as much to not have brand stickers on it?
Yes! Glad you noticed. Fun fact, they were actually supposed to shoot my FD back when they roadtripped to colorado but my car broke. I ended up helping them shoot my friend's Forester and a kid's E30.
Victor Jara prefer not to have someone walk up to me and tell me my mustang sucks because the v6 can't beat a 240 stock. A. That's wrong. b. I don't have a v6 soooo.
#6... The armchair engineers #7... The magazine spec racers #8... The "insert brand name" marketing ploy sucker #9... The forum build thread with build list including aftermarket wiper blades, etc
"Respect stanced builds""Don't respect rusted out builds thst aren't taken care of"Stancing a car is not taking care of it, I will not respect a stanced build.
Rofl 乁(ᴗ ͜ʖ ᴗ)ㄏ nothing says more "I love my car" than scrapping over EVERYTHING while unable to drive faster than 50mph cause the Suspension Geomitry is so fucked up that even a Trip to Wallmart seems like a Touge Battle
@@cultusmechanicus8001 im not a big stance fan and I would never do it to my car, but I have driven them and my God its fun haha. And who gives a shit, they built them how they want it. You don't have to like it, but respect the effort and money and passion they put in.
@@cultusmechanicus8001 And who are you to tell other people what to do? It's THEIR car, THEIR money and THEIR love. Just because someone stances a car doesn't mean that they don't love it to bits. Your comment is invalid, stop caring about other people's builds so much and start caring about your own.
True I am a r34 fanboy but I can agree there are tons of good cars chasers rx7s I don't think the r34 is the best car I hate the people that are like ohh the skyline is the best car I remember no one liked the skyline until fast and furious came out and then all the 12 year olds who thought it was the best car it no I like it because it was good looking and a little cheap back then now it's all out 100k for an r34 but that's 20 years ago so all people who like the r34 are mostly 12 year olds
I'm an AMG fanboy, but my first one was a 6 cylinder 2000 CLK320 AMG, ended up swapping a single turbo 2jz in at around 220,000 miles on the original motor...... Still not even close to being as fast as my supercharged 2001 CLK55 AMG though.... Hence why I let my wife daily the 320 lol.
I could actually find your comments more funny if I'd actually know what you're referring to in your fancey hashtags. (Tbh I could also play serious and say the comment section exists for feedback and you can only come up with mom-jokes blah blah. Nor I nor you wants to read that though)
you missed the big one: the idiots that Ruin their damn cars with the stupid over camber bullshit. people that do that literally should have their cars taken away. it looks stupid for one, but the main thing is THAT IT RUINS THE DAMN CARS HANDLING BECAUSE WHEN YOU ONLY HAVE HALF THE DAMN TIRE TOUCHING THE GROUND HOW ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO GET ANYTHING RESEMBLING GRIP? especially the people that camber the rears more than the fronts, thats now how it works, ugghhh. a little bit of camber is fine and can increase handling, but anything more than like 10 degrees (and even thats probably too much) especially on the rears and you're ruined your car. edit: googled it and optimal negative camber angles dont seem to go above 5 degrees. so even 10 degrees is way too much
rotors magazine! you guys sold me an s366 for a 1jz WAY cheaper than anyone else, and it ended up coming direct from BW. i reccomend everyone buy turbos from you
I agree with you on everything but your third point, I think all builds deserve respect. Sure if the owner neglects to take care of his car it doesn't deserve recognition. But if an owner finds fulfillment/enjoyment when pouring time and money into their car that itself earns my respect.
xuddish p My motto is respect isn't earned, it's given. There's a difference. Some people are bound to not respect you despite you believing that you have 'earned' their respect. Like you don't earn a gift... you're given one. It's not something for you to 'earn'.
fanboys?? no no no... RX-7 FD3S is the crown jewel of our Lord and savior AHURA MAZDA, the pinnacle of human technology, the world-ending slayer of automobiles everywhere. TWIN ROTOR, TWIN TURBO!!!!! get with the knowledge before u get brapped on son
The dislikes were from ricer honda bois, 1000hp supra stock 12 year olds and dudes with 3k on insta becuase they (a shop) built their widebody frs and they think there the shit. Also 6 cylinder muscle car owners.
The stock shit talker kids: People who bring stock mustangs and jdm cars and think they are the center of the meet, and think they can race everybody cuz they bought a 5.0 They need to stop living immediately, like if you got a built mustang cool, respectable, just don't talk shit if it aint. Stock cars are fine at a meet, just dont try and be the center of attention, seriously annoying.
Nissan Tiida in the U.S it pretty much IS the center of the meet. r33 are the most common due to motorex, followed by r32 and a distant third is the r34. I remember when I saw the owner of motorex in his r34 in san diego. I was on the bus far away from my house and was debating whether or not to just walk home so I could touch a r34 gtr. ah to be 14 again
You should see the hate you get when you are a Stock car enthusiast like I am. I love to maintain JDM cars from the 80s and 90s at 100% stock. Don't get me wrong, I love modified cars too but my brand of enthusiasm is for stock cars maintained to a higher level. I get no love when I show up with a 94 Corolla, 100% stock but clean (near perfect) and low miles. Feels bad man.
Surprised you didn't have a section about the shitty Honda guys who think they're top shit. I won't even try and lie, I'm a Honda person but I have a lot of hate and disrespect for the Honda ricers with straight pipes and bottomed out coil overs on cut springs, etc.
Shawn Hauser i feel you there, I'm a Honda man but hate the little ricers that currently buy them. Hate seeing them slammed to floor on £250 coilovers wheels cambered 5 or more degrees
But that's there taste it definitely doesn't agree with the majority but I mean if it's a cheap fart can that was made by the company it's there build so I can have respect for that but doesn't mean I think it's a nice build
Shawn Hauser honestly I don't ever see these kids that you speak of.. this idea that there's all these Honda kids that think there car is fast and hot shit doesn't seem to exist anymore. most Honda owners with shitboxes and eBay parts are humble guys that like all cars.. just bull shit excuses to dog on Hondas tbh. and the dudes with well built fast Hondas are almost always genuinely nice and knowledgable car people. most egomaniac ass holes these days are all wheel drive guys and v8 mustang guys.
Of course you're entitled to your own opinion, but this is a comment section, so here's mine. 1. "The Ebay Parts Kiddos", first of all, no one should have to be entitled to help or give out to the car community if they don't feel like doing so. No one actually cares about these chinese manufacturers making replica parts unless you're involved in the business or if you've been scammed, most people wouldn't buy unoriginal parts as they can be flawed by the manufacturer and unreliable, so you're talking about a small percentage of people which don't actually "ruin the car community." 2. You waving around 26k gained subs in the comments like it's some sort of respectable accomplishment and feeling entitled to feel as if you're to be respected because of that is laughable. Yet you respond towards all those disliking your video; not by making a new video, announcement, or alter a change in your videos, but by responding with negativity. That's the golden rule of thumb for a bad UA-camr. I'm simply saying, if you make a video that just so happens to get near 50-50 ration likes/dislikes, maybe you should actually consider anything wrong you might've done, instead of rubbing your subscribers in other people's faces.
Agreed! Is like if you dont have money to buy genuine overpriced parts you dont deserve to build a car of your vision, and if you do this douche will shame you for it!
Haha this is interesting I agree with most of it my only thing is genuine parts.... I personally respect a build that has self made fabrication more than someone who buys parts off a shelf ... don't get me wrong still have mad respect for it cause parts are expensive and I respect the hustle it takes to afford them but if I walk up to two Rx7s and one has a lot more hand made one off stuff than the other I tend to like the hand made stuff more mostly because of the creativity that goes into making your own parts
I so much agree, properly made DIY is really awesome! like tyler fialko's camberghini, maybe its not so clean and all that but i love the creativity of his DIY :D
100% agree, I make a lot of my own stuff because of the high cost of parts and I hate when I pay the cost and I have to modify it anyway to get it to fit. I don't agree with the Rust thing either, sometimes you have rust because you got it that way and you are restoring it panel by panel.
I hate the "car enthusiast" that calls everything a ricer. Goes on to make a UA-cam channel focused on that same topic. He will continue to use the same clips over and over again regurgitating the same shit. Tries to be funny by adding jokes and shit in every compilation. It's cringey and sad that he get such a big following and only causes more people to spread the cancer.
In my opinion the worst kind is people who are obsessed with JDM, they act like anime characters and talk as such, also their cars look absolutely like garbage
9 times out of 10 none of the replica kits on the market have the same quality. They wouldn't be able to afford the manufacturing process and be able to sell it so cheaply. Replica kits have terrible fitment issues, and tend to need 10x the work to make them look half as good as the kit their knocking off.
i love chinese parts just because they create competition with name brands. forcing them to develop a superior product or lower retail price drastically.
The funny thing is tons of reputable and popular brands sold in America are the exact same product and they are produced overseas and relabeled/painted.
so he is complaining about people buying eBay parts well i cant afford to buy real parts and yes i know this hobby is expensive but if i buy the proper parts i wouldnt be able to pay my rent and insurance as i am just berly getting buy as it is
webz big boy job? you get that some people just dont want to spend lots of money on that and if they dont more pwer to them they can work on their car how they want theres no criteria to be a car person
i have a good job but because of my age and where i live i have to wait a few years before i can earn good money from it and combine that with expensive rent and way over priced insurances. so yea and besides i you probebly dont even have a job
but i am doing my dream job i it will take me a few years to get into a position to earn good money and beside u would know that if u had a job instead of getting the bank of mummy and daddy to pay for everything and u will learn this when ur are old enough to get a job
_The projection in this video is comical, let people do them. Being judgemental doesn't make you any better, ricers are horrid, but I think they should have a place_
I think the definition of rice has been lost really. In fact there are two original versions to describe, " performance modified stock vehicles", and "cosmetic visuals on stock vehicles." Rice A, is "Racing Influenced Car Enhancements," which means that performance that are influenced by racing counterpart cars from professional racing designed for racing. That includes your weight saving, Aero, spoilers, engine parts, you name it. However, Rice B, is "Racing Influenced cosmetic Enhancements," is different and by that it is by the word "cosmetic", which means it has miniscule to no effect on a car's performance. For so to say, stickers, recoating, and wraps fit in this category. Ricer C, is just the food you eat. Ricer D, on the other hand is just an insult used by enthusiasts to other car enthusiasts who finds what "they themselves" find to be distasteful to what other car enthusiasts do to their own cars. Which is definitely opinionated. So I say that Ricer D gets used more so often for insult rather by using the other definitions stated that fit their acronym perfectly.
Honestly, the only people who ruin the car scene are the people who shit on someone because they did something to there car that they’ve wanted to and they paid for it. Let people do what they want to their own car because it’s there own car. Everyone’s car deserves just as much respect as any other car because they still put the time and money into it. The person who buys only eBay parts for their Civic deserves just as much respect as the guy with the 1000 horsepower Supra built on authentic parts. Because, guess what? They both took the time to show off there car because they are proud of it, so don’t shit them down because they didn’t buy real Works. You never know anyone’s financial situation, and not everyone can afford $800 per wheel. Everyone’s car is worthy of respect. I don’t care if you buy a fake HKS BOV or a real genuine HKS from BOV straight from Japan, because they both worked hard for that product, whether they paid $80 or $800. Don’t shit on someone because they can’t afford a part. Not everyone can afford expensive shit. Like me, I bought ESRs rep brides for my Mustang because I’m not in a position to spend $800 for one seat or $800 for a single wheel. And, they do they same thing. Do I respect the genuine parts, yes. Do I wish I could and plan to buy the genuine parts, yes. Can I do it right now, no. Because I’m only 17 and that shits expensive, and working at Walmart isn’t paying a lot. With that being said, I don’t sit around and say that they are genuine parts. And it’s not because I’m embarrassed, it’s because I’m proud of them. Because I worked hard for those parts. It still took me 7-8 paychecks to buy my wheels, tires, and seats because they were still a good $2000 for everything, so just imagine if I bought the real parts. I’d be saving for three months just to buy a seat or a wheel. And I’m definitely not doing that, so I went the rep route. Doesn’t mean I’m 100% happy that I did it, because I’m not. But just because I bought a rep doesn’t mean my car doesn’t deserve the respect that the guy who bought real parts gets, because it does. Because, we both did the same thing. We both used our hard earned money to buy them, and we both put in the work to install them.
Pawel Kosentka you are completely missing the point of the video... if this video was labeled as 5 types of car culture killing the community I would get it... At no point in this video did he ever disrespect a type of car culture he never said stances cars are cancer muscle car owners have small dicks and import owners are rice burning fairy boys. At least watch the video before you make a comment.
I personally like EBay parts. No they aren't "as good" as genuine parts but I do think enthusiast cars are something that should be accessible to everyone. I'm 17 and just bought myself an 1993 NA-6 Miata. I do not think everyones build should have to be aesthetically nice or use 100% Genuine parts as it comes back down to money. Money shouldn't be an issue, That's why i think even the brokest guy using all EBay parts deserves respect. Its because he is one of us. By only giving respect to the "nicer" looking builds you are dividing the car community into social classes. My point being I think the 600+ WHP 4 Rotor RX-7 and the 100 WHP 197K Mile Daily Miata should get the same respect provided they aren't jackasses. Everything else you say I agree with.
2K Tan in my opinion you have to earn your respect .... on the quarter mile or circuit. if you can outpace a guy or women who spent 60 k spent 40 or 20 that right there is respect well earned.
jiffyjeffyjeff yes! I respect the car, still not a fan of it but I don't respect the little jack ass talking shit cuz I don't like gtrs just happened to me yesterday...
As long as you are willing to admit you built the car with eBay parts I don't see what your issue with them is. Just because someone can't afford or is not willing to spend a lot on name brand parts doesn't give you a reason to hate them. To each their own man don't hate on someone for what parts they buy. Also it's not about respecting everyone's ride its about not being a dick to someone for doing something they like.
I completely agree to that. Some of the parts on my car are from craigslist or eBay and I dont try to make them look genuine with stickers or shit. I have rep wheels and I'll admit it.
www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2380057.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.XEBAY+BUILT+sticker.TRS0&_nkw=EBAY+BUILT+sticker&_sacat=0 buy yourself one of those and fucking own it
Yeah that one annoyed me too. That's why I go more off of: 1- if you tried your best, 2- it was all you could afford, 3- it's what you personally are happy with, 4- is it legal/safe for other drivers. If all those check out, up most respect.
Just to clarify: can people that bought their cars to their personal liking show up at meets and stuff? They're naturally social events, so most people just assume that you want to be critiqued and/or talked to about your car.
I mean nobody can ruin a car scene, honestly let people like what they like you know. They have a passion. Everyone starts somewhere like eBay parts 😂😂 haven’t we all
I don't get the Ebay parts. I mean, if the imitation parts work like radiators and such that you can get for WAAAY cheaper ($110 vs 250), why not? Sure it undercuts the main aftermarket companies but at least you got cheap parts to use, especially for someone who rags on their cars alot that need constant cheap parts. Look. You have to realize that there are tons of college kids who want to have a modified import or even muscle car but they're not sharks with tons of money to throw around like a maniac or have the will to force themselves to mod a car they want but then eat breadcrumbs every meal. These ebay mods give them hope. Of course you have to know what mods they are and how they work. Ebay mods don't get my hate in general as when I was in college, my NA1 NSX also had some imitation ebay parts from Thailand like racing grade oil pump and at one point imitation Advan wheels. What do get my hate are those who buys ebay parts and does ridiculous shits to their cars that either makes it worse or even doesn't work.. Like a fartcan on a Dodge Neon or a non-SiR/Type R Civic. If you know how to utilize the parts, go ahead and get ebay ones. I don't care.
That's one of the main points he's trying to make that is utter bullshit. A part is not necessarily a bad part, one that is going to leave you stranded by the highway or at the bottom of a ditch, just because it's a cheap Chinese knockoff. And if it wasn't for cheap Chinese knockoffs a lot of people wouldn't have cars to ride. Yeah it's illegal, somewhat immoral and unethical...but only if you ignore the benefits to those who cannot afford to keep their cars running with either factory parts or legitimate, "quality" 3rd-party parts. Sometimes you just need a cheap, half-ass part just to keep it running. Are they illegal to make and sell? If they are mislabeled copyright-violating parts, yes. You're damm straight. Are they going to be made and sold by the millions anyway? Of course!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! How many Honda owners have a legitimate, genuine Honda exhaust on their car? Oil filter? You name it, if they're deep in the miles they've got cheap as knockoff parts on their car. Are they labeled as Honda parts? Probably not because it would be obvious that they are counterfeit parts, right? Because you KNOW that if they are legitimate Honda parts they're not going to be price-competitive. Cheap, knock-off parts are one thing. Counterfeit parts are one thing. Stolen parts are another thing entirely. Ebay sees all of the above including legitimate factory parts that dealers dump on eBay because they can't source the parts, can't continue to list them, can't sell them and need to dump their inventory. Same thing with warehouses and 3rd-party vendors. Same with Craigslist, Amazon, all of them, as long as they can hide the fact that they're stolen thieves will sell them. But how would you know that they are stolen? You have no proof that they are stolen, you know the market is full of legitimate parts from legitimate vendors and resellers, and you're going to condemn the entire market? I guess that's like the time during Daytona bikeweek when the cops accused everyone on a sportbike of street-racing and confiscated every sportbike they saw...even the ones parked in hotel parking-lots. The cops were right in that a large number of sportbikes had been street-racing or would be street-racing soon. That doesn't justify confiscating every sportbike they saw south of Jacksonville. Or I don't know, maybe it does. after all why should they not just confiscate everything that might be used in a crime
eightdot no depend on what you mean by ricing. If the rice is internal parts to improve performance then it's fine, but if they start making the exterior and focusing purely on the looks it just doesn't make sense. and those that like to take thier mufflers off.
Amazon I love for parts. I got tired of dealing with auto Zone's attitude. Then once they turn rotors for a fee(which I was willing to pay) the machine to turn them was down for 3 months. I got mad bought new rotors on amazon for the price auto zone wanted to turn my rotors. Plus I'm a prime member so free 2 day shipping. And I usually have 1-2 packages arrive at my shop a week so I quit going to automotive shops
BROTORS just because someone can’t spend $10k on a car means that their build isn’t special. If that what it means, the. I don’t want to be special. You’re such a fucking piece of shit
The amount of people who can't figure out the difference between a counterfeit part and a cheaper generic part is embarrassing. Buy original, don't support people who steal.
Hey I like a lot of what you are saying, especially the parts about the know it all who knows nothing. As well as the part about, those so called ebay parts kiddies. As I have run up on both of those people, even in the digital world with people who design 3D cars and bikes. In the digital design community, we see a lot of that with people ripping builds from GTA then importing them into other systems for personal gain just like you spoke about the ebay parts kiddies doing. But I have had a huge problem, with the know it all who knows nothing when talking to some of my trucker friends who drive semi's for a living. And it is usually with some know it all, that talks about how much better a turbine engine is compared to a diesel, without understanding the applications that both engines are used in.
Rotors Magazine agreed, so many people buying replica rocket bunny kits for frs/brz should be called out and shamed, kei miura does not deserve his kit being copied cheaply..
Rotors Magazine agreed, so many people buying replica rocket bunny kits for frs/brz should be called out and shamed, kei miura does not deserve his kit being copied cheaply..
Rotors Magazine a few years ago i've sad that if i ever see black chinese with freckles i will see everything...and you made that come true. Thank you!!
as soon as he said fanboy, the thought of people at my high school that say "my dream car is a R34 skyline like in fast and furious" but know absolutely nothing about cars and only know how to drive auto
"Have a lust for power and sexy sounding engines? Get a dose of Wankel Rotary! Lost those stupid cams and pistons! Have higher redlines! Lose those pesky engine vibrations!" (Note: Side effects may include debt, constant work to continue running smoothly, poor gas mileage, etc.) BTW I love Rotaries too, I'm just making a joke here.
Please Take A Sip What? How is rocket bunny pandem a rep of liberty walk? Yes they both are widebody kits but are different designs. And my point was what do you think of TJ Hunt because he used a rep V3 kit and I was wondering where that stood on his morality scale.
You're so wrong it's not funny. Designed by the guy, made by the same people and factory in Japan, marketed by two different companies. The kits are the same.
It's funny, this is literally a list that you could probably apply to anything if you change phrasing. Good shit my dude, personally in my opinion, this is pretty much how I feel about people in general.
6: The guy who won't accept when a car enthusiast drives an auto trans car instead of manual because of 'omg auto no skill, boring dumb slower on race track only good for drag race hurr durr'
Before you say 'not everyone can afford genuine parts', that is 150% your fault. Cars are a hobby, an expensive one at that. You want the cool kid parts? You gotta make the cool kid money. That requires having a cool kid job. That also means taking care of your cool kid responsibilities. If you say 'not everyone can afford to spend their money on car parts', good. That's what makes a proper build that much more appreciable. The most annoying counter argument is "I have to pay for X, I have to pay for Y, that's why I can't pay for car parts". Here's a secret, every single person in life has financial obligations as well. Almost every adult pays for their bills and kids, no excuses. Rather than get your quick fix because you feel you're entitled to use a stolen design part, work harder for what you aspire to build and appreciate it that much more.
It's almost as if you didn't read or listen to anything I've said. I'm specifically speaking about COUNTERFEIT parts. Parts that claim to be Greddy, HKS, or Apexi, but are not. Go to ebay, look up 'HKS SSQV', almost every single listing is a FAKE part. Go to ebay, look up 'Greddy Type S BOV' almost every single listing is a fake part. Go to ebay, look up Tial MV-S Wastegate, all those dirt cheap ones? They're FAKE. People ripping off part designs and selling parts as those parts only to have them fail destroys company reputations, it cuts into their development costs. That's the issue. Making similar parts that serve the same function? No big deal. Running a wheel that maybe kinda sorta looks like another wheel? No big deal. Running a body kit that emulates another body kit? No big deal. Stealing a brand name part, copying it 1:1 and selling it as that brand part with inferior materials? Yes, that is a big deal.
Rotors Magazine I get it. Good parts are pricey. Sure I could get a twin turbo "Greddy" system for $50 on eBay. I'd rather get the parts worth getting, if I had hafta save up for them. Especially rims. There was an article on knock-off rims on CarThrottle not too long ago. Sometimes ya gotta go cheap...but still...
Really...? Just looked up HKS SSQV on ebay, it's all malaysian and chinese parts. If you're not searching name brand parts, clearly you weren't listening to the point I was making.
All those fake Tial MV-S Wastegates say they're Tial Wastegates. Fake Aeromative FPRs say they're Aeromative FPRs. All these parts are claiming to be OEM. You're simply not grasping it.
Some of the "enthusiasts" that I've grown to hate are the Americans who blindly hate on imports and they worship trucks and muscle cars and say that they are better than everything else. It makes me mad that people even try to compare the two when they are meant for different things. Try taking your 1000 HP Duramax or 1000 HP Mustang on a touge race against an RX7 or Civic with significantly less power and see what happens. Someone's gonna end up in a ditch. Imports are solely meant to be a mix between decent power, reliability and good handling. Not driving in a straight line with 10 billion HP for 6 seconds down the 1/4 mile...
I think you have a misunderstanding of the word "fact", he didn't pull out any statistics or sources. He was making statements mainly based on his personal experience.
You don't need to respect their build, the point of that statement is more to frown upon the people who go around talking shit just because someones car does fit THEIR preferences. If they ask you for your opinion then sure, say how you feel but don't go around giving your opinion on everything when nobody asked or wants it. If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all.
yeah its pretty annoying when people get super obnoxious at meets. the most annoying thing is when people are yelling into your window " 2 step !! " or asking you to just rev it up. like those people who egg it on also need to stop it because its unnecessary.
If YOUR car culture is all about driving expensive cars and buying expensive parts. I don't want to be part of YOUR car culture, (and I'm not poor btw) actually with only 22 years old I'm sure I own a better car than you did when you was my age. I lost my time watching this video, but at least an can give you my humble opinion.
Agreed. Very late comment but This guy clearly is the type to shit on other people’s cars, I believe In all types of builds, no matter how unusual they are. It’s still THEIR car and clearly if they put lots of work into it, they’re an enthusiast in my eyes. So long as they don’t act like uppity pricks about it or try to race everyone , accelerate hard at every light, etc. either way, much agreed, doesn’t matter if they have to cheap out on parts. Not everyone is blessed with earning tons of money to dump into their car
I'm a car enthusiast that doesn't know shit about how engines work. I just like how cars look and sound. My dream car is a R35, and recently I've been developing an appreciation from older cars from before the 2000s. I used to think the older porsche 911s looked ugly but now I think they're actually pretty nice.
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#CRINGECORE
Someone saying jdm to everything that is japanese that is not built in Japan
@@olavofernandes7286 M8 jdms are bad
As a small manufacturer of carbon fibre parts, it REALLY bugs me when some one comes to me and says "I can find that on eBay for way cheaper". Finally someone said something about it!
Claase Design
Haha I'm friends with an aircraft builder /reengineer...
I took him to a show and he was quite amused with the average products out there in composites.
Like a real hood would be 1000$ , but the eBay one is 359 shipped.
That's because it's just a layer of cf on the top and bottom and the rest is old school fiberglass.
Perfect example! I've seen this so many times haha. Maybe people will eventually come to realise that it does actually cost more to get a quality piece.
As a tuner and engine builder, I've found no matter what your prices, somebody somewhere will ALWAYS tell you this! I just say politely to them: "If you can get it cheaper somewhere else, feel free to buy from there - and when it breaks, I'm happy to build it for you properly!"
Kj16V exactly i dont buy from ebay but at least you have the option and more expensive does not mean always better. sometimes your just buying the name.
rotary love
I just got some nos parts for my old Jetta off there, I'd kinda be screwed without that source.
But yea, turbo kits and big wings?
I'll pass.
How to fix car culture:
1.) Stop giving a shit what other people do to their cars
2.) Do whatever you like
It's really not that complex
Joel Cairns True, I agree, who gives a shit about how much money you put in a build or if you use eBay parts, you are not a expert but a Enthusiast. Period. Everyone categories themselves to be recognized. My build is my way, if people want to throw their opinion on it that's fine whether it positive or negative. No one is better than anyone else an if you think you are cause you spent more money on your build your a tool. Everybody in the car community deserves respect. Remember you are just a Car Enthusiast.
Go be poor somewhere else.
Joel Cairns thats basically the key to happiness.m
That's kinda shallow I think. If you think your hobby/profession/anything is damaged by some "amateur", than just stand up for it and tell them your standpoint. Nonetheless, I did feel like you do, but I am not anymore. I was annoyed by shitty drummers "ruining drumming" but then I realized they are just trying to have fun and everybody started that way, so I am over this mentality.
Thanks for explaining, good points! I still think the uploader's "Go be poor somewhere else" comment is unacceptable.
1-The guy that buys rims.coilovers and stickers for his car and telling people that he has a ''Built not bought'' car
2-The guy revs all the time with his 29.99$ Exhoust in meets.
3-The Guy thinks his dream car is the best car ever made
4-The guy talks shit about ford because he likes chevy .BMW Audi-Toyota Nissan-Lexus Infiniti-Ferrari Lamborghini-Subaru Mitsubishi etc.....
5-The guy thinks all imports are ricers or all american cars can't turn.
6-The guy thinks Miatas are for gays
7-The guy goes to single track day and suddenly becomes a Pro racer
8-The guy has no idea how to change oil but still trying to impress people with talking the specs of his car.
9-The guy gets an stanced car and telling people that he has an race car
10-The guy thinks getting a cold air intake for an low hp car adds +40 hp
CAR GUY they gay Miata thing is a car guy joke. We all love those gay little cars we just hate to admit how great they actually are haha. I'm actually picking one up as a daily soon.
Sometimes jokes or "stereotypes" tend to go to far with other people....
At times it gives others an excuse to talk individuals down, which is what I'm assuming CAR GUY is mentioning.
Sweet dude! Have fun with that Miata! ;)
Right I'm bi and I'm insulted that they'd try and pin something as shitty as a Miata on us
Great words
@@kaisern6032 nobody cares
Those types of enthusiasts maybe annoying but in my mind there's only one group ruining car culture: the speculators who push the cost of cars far past what most people can afford. I hate people who see cars as an investment.
That would be the number 1... people who just buy cars to store them as an investment. I get it for certain cars. How many Ford GT's do you think will actually get driven? It's depressing to think of the answer. Some need stored, yes, but for F's sake you only live once.
The availabality makes the price just look at LFA it cost so much it should not appreciate but it does
Those things depreciate fast so I don't really see a point in not using them for what they were made to do. What, you gonna sell it and lose a bunch of money, or race it, have lots of fun, and make way more than what the cars worth in sponsorship money? These speculators know nothing about cars, and are blinded by greed to not realize that there's a better investment opportunity if they actually drove the cars instead of treating it like it's stock in a company.
AMEN
Nah, you just poor af
This guy is the worst type of car enthusiasts
agreed. Awful elitists like him are why I avoid certain weekly car meets. There used to be a huge one next to my old apartment and over the course of a few years I watched it die because it became filled more and more with douchy elitists who chased away less serious enthusiasts. Now the meet is almost exclusively dudes with $20k+ dumped into their cars.
My favorite fake fact that I've heard from people about my own car, an '83-'85 RX7, is that "It has a front subframe from a early Foxbody Mustang".
I also hear it ridiculously often... UGH.
Dr. Weird Never heard that one. Something to do with ford and Mazdas partnership?
I guess? That was the era of the Ford Festiva after all, a rebadged Mazda 121.
I'm almost positive that it is false though. The Festiva appeared in 1985 and the SA/FB RX7 began production in '78 and apart from the face lift in '83; they didn't exactly change much.
Dr. Weird well that's just talking out their ass.
Ace Ventura status.
The only people runining the car scene are those that don't let others do with their car what they want.
So you think Joe and his Honda Civic should be allowed to do nothing but throw some lambo doors on his car and think it's amazing?
If he wants to, I'm not gonna judge him. I still think it looks terrible but hate won't get anyone anywhere.
Cobra_ Daytona I’m considering subbing to you because I couldn’t have said it better you don’t have to respect all builds but don’t go up to someone and be like YOUR CAR IS SO AWFUL I’DBE ASHAMED TO DRIVE THAT but if they ask your opinion tell them what you thinks it’s simple as that
Thank you but I aint uploading so... but thx the world needs more ppl like u
I'm speaking as a tech that works at a body shop. Do you know how much work it takes to make scissor doors fit properly on a car that didn't have them OE? the kits themselves need reinforcement. If you find a car with a scissor door kit that kits well and lasted a long time, the technician that installed that shit is a g.
My truck it's Rusty and half ass it, but I love it, kicking ass for years.
Axel Vanegas hell yeah brother, for me, I don't really have big money to go off on my car but it doesn't mean I don't love it and respect it. If a man loves his ride, thats all that matters
Axel Vanegas yea when he said that i kinda wanted to leave the vid cuz .... not every one can afford a top notch paint job at the moment so.....
Just about my only gripe with the current car scene is the trend of over cambered wheels..
Uriah Siner
Haha I saw one today i was a little queasy and wonder what gay trend will happen this year.
Me and my friends try to guess it every year but never win.
Uriah Siner yah unless it's a actaul drift car it's retarded
subie skyline34 camber is usefull on cars. i think hes talking about excesive camber.
When I see those kinds of cars driving in Portland I can't imagine they're very comfortable going over the potholes.
Hah the hardest part about owning a stance car is telling your parents that you are gay
Add a 6th the "hates on all hondas because they are hondas"
I second this
Tyler Legg well theyre hondas soooo yeaaa lol
OMFG yessssssss they're so annoying
Hondas are fine but the people that own them need to be put to death (sometimes)
Nautilus so what category do you think ginguim slap train tj hunt & Adam lz go under ?
Why should there be any boundaries towards car culture? I drive an automatic corolla, love cars, don't have much knowledge of internals, but still love cars. I don't think anyone should label car culture as a club where you have to fit in. Just be yourself and if people don't like you, fuck them.
Skorch951 thank you, i agree 100% I wish more people thought this
Skorch951 2010 Corolla is my dream car
Word. I respect all whips. I'm fortunate enough to have a car I lusted after for years,but I will not diss anybody's car REGARDLESS. Walking because you have to SUCKS!! Spent 2.5 years suspended L's paying off fines. Bay Area Public transpo is pretty damn good,but walking sucks. I'm lucky enough to chose if I want to walk to work,less than mile from home. But I'm always thinking about people that don't have cars,and I really wish EVERYONE had a car, no matter what kind. Even if you must sleep in your car,it's still 5069 times better than sleeping on the Goddamn street somewhere.
stefan, Im a fellow Bay Area man myself and agree with you
Looking back, with all the trials I've been through with my 2007 STI, I kind of wish I had an automatic Corolla. XD
I feel like he's the types of people he's complaining about
Dude is the kinda of guy that insults you for being poor and not giving him and his pryamid scheme local scrap part shops enough clout.
As a minor who can realistically only make minimum wage and legally only work 20 hours a week I find it pretty hard not to use ebay as my main source for parts. I certainly dont go around thinking my parts are just as good as genuine name brand products and I would much rather be using a name brand turbo but I honestly just cant afford it. The way I see it if I use the cheaper ebay parts I get to do what I love to do more often. But if I save up for all these name brand parts then most of my time is going to be spent saving up money and doing nothing. I think what you said about these parts being rip offs and them destroying companies is totally true and I agree with everything you said but I thought I would just represent us poor people lol
Philip Brandt he's not faulting people buying cheaper stuff. He's faulting people buying cheap fake stuff and act all hot shit and companies ripping off designs with no originality whatsoever and selling them off for a sixth of the price, i.e. pirates
I own a bike instead of a car and also limited genuine parts to the mechanical-operation ones, like lube, engine parts, chains etc. and used China shit for probably the side mirror, handlebars, and grips. I can tell you these cheap stuff, you win at buying them but lose at using them because they wear down real fast and I find myself looking for spare parts already within like 6 months. Once I got a decently paying job, I began replacing them with genuine parts and boy, they last well and using them just feels different. I feel more confident and safe.
There's a reason why genuine parts are priced like they are. Other than the branding, marketing, and operational overhead of big companies, you just know that they've been through serious R&D and proper testing before release, and there's always warranty. Unlike China shit, they don't skimp on material and manufacturing costs.
This is going to sound harsh, I don't mean it to talk down to you, but cars are a hobby. Thinking you deserve to be able to put knockoff parts (not cheaper parts, stolen designs) on a car just because you're subject to 'entitlement' thinking. Rather than dreaming, aspiring, and working towards a goal, we as a people seek instant gratification. I personally think you'll never find true gratification in something you did just because that's what you could afford within your few month window rather than looking at a build as a few year process. For example, I have a 3rd gen rx7 that hasn't run for 2 years because I want it done right. I could have taken the cheap shortcuts and got it running quickly, but I would rather know it was done right than done quick.
It's just his opinion, its not a big deal. I shared my opinion and he shared his. Honestly I don't entirely agree with the comment he left but who cares. I just wanted to see if anyone could relate to my situation.
Philip Brandt ebay isnt ruining anything bro evatually if a product is good its going to sell if its over priced well you wont sell.
I can kinda relate. I'm a student that works 2 days a week and I live away from home so I have little to put aside for my car. Becuase of this my car itself is a little lunch box (which I love) and there is no huge range of parts. like I want coils and only 3/4 different companies make them so ive never really had the cheap option but I can understand why you would take that route. Just remember to invest into small companies because the more you help them, the more they will help you buliding the community. so in the long run, it may be worth waiting that little longer and saving that little more
Maybe if "GENUINE" parts werent stupidly expensive more people would buy them.
Charles Nicklestein if you get tye right genuine parts they are pretty cheap
Genuine parts you can trust, can't say that about cheap rep wheels that will get fucked up by a simple speed bump etc, etc.
Sounds like you don't want people to have fun, man. What the hell. I respect trash crap builds no matter how much I hate them because the build is passion. The build is fun. The build is love. You don't have to respect someones build if you don't want to- but trashing those who respect others builds? Not cool, man.
Telling people to stay away from ebay? I don't like ebay parts, I agree that most are shit, but outright shitting on the budget builders who don't have the $500 for an intake who still want to have the fun of jacking around with their car? The people who buy those ebay parts 99% of the time wont have the money to drop on the expensive quality stuff. there is no loss of business.
You know who I think the #1 ruiners of the car scene are? Elitist assholes who down everyone else for being in it for the fun. Just not cool, man.
my hero
+theo laf well said
You're a fcking moron if you think buying an intake costs 500 dollars...go get some education bro. Most legit intakes can be bought for as little as 150, with the proper knowledge and resources. My Injen CAI I just ordered costs 217 with free shipping. Not all car parts are expensive man, you just have to know what you're doing and who you're doing business with. Btw, this guy wasn't shtting on other peoples' builds just for the hell of it. He's talking about people who play dubstep out their rusted-out Honda Civics with an eBay ricer wing and annoying as hell poor-quality subwoofer, and tell you crap like "I beat an Enzo once, you wanna race me??" (And they actually mean it...) If your whole goal was to make the riciest (dont know if that's a word or not lol) build for kick and giggles, by all means GO NUTS. I think that's hilarious. Just like guys that saved up their entire lives for that Porsche 911 or Nissan GT-R, save up your money and in due-time, you'll get what you earned....
Sincerely,
The 18 year-old who works for retail part-time, while paying for college on his own, and also still pays for his "cutesy" Hyundai Elantra GT all on his own
Alex Gonzalez lol actually depends what car you have the dinan intake for my car was a little over 500 but the one for my other car it ranges above 1.5k.
If you respect trash, maybe you should try to up your standards?
The 3rd gen rx7 looks like a ford Taurus from behind
Excuse me? the Pontiac Aztec will decimate all.
Ethan Tech nah dude nissan cube will destroy it any day
Phoenix Ward I agree with the cube over the Aztec but I think the alero will decimate tbr
And my multipla will crush all of you
That piece of shit? pfft, it'll lose by miles.
This entire comment chain is sarcastic. I thought you would realize that
lot of butts has been hurt by this video.
gtr and supra fan boys mostly lol
I sense a hurt butt in this video.
MaxxTRK you forgot honda fanboiis.
True, but most honda fanboys actually own a honda,smh lol.
MaxxTRK lol true
EBay parts: you gotta starts somewhere because most parts are cheaper there
The parts I cannot trust are rims for 60$ because they can break and coil-overs that are too low or cheap
This guy is a twat. Some buy ebay parts because they can't afford other stuff
@mr2wolfD Yes, because everyone shits money out of their ass and has enough to buy expensive cars. Fuck outta here.
I'm glad I am the 6th type of car enthusiast: Just happy my car is all one color, goes, stops, and turns.. :-D
kabukiwookie 😊👏🇬🇧
Truee
Maybe if parts manufacturers didn't overprice the hell out of everything people wouldn't buy so many eBay parts.
A lot of the stuff on Ebay is pretty much the same anyways. Some "legit" companies even buy stuff from china in bulk, rebrand it and sell it for 4 times the price of the generic eBay brand.
I personally think Ebay parts are a really great thing for consumers. It creates competition with parts manufacturers. It keeps prices down and quality up.
I also think it's great that somebody can build a car on a budget with (certain) eBay parts and have a car that performs the same as a car with genuine parts. The only downside of it is it hurts the egos of people that spent 4 times as much on genuine parts.
And I'm not talking about complex parts like turbos, coilovers etc. I'm talking about things like intercooler piping, downpipes, intakes, intercoolers, radiators, etc. Especially cosmetic parts.
dacasman Word..
dacasman maybe they should patent and copyright what they make then they wouldn't get copied.
dacasman I’ve seen dealerships come to autozone and buy parts just to take them back and charge you dealer fees for the same parts.SEVERAL TIMES!
I agree
When i was learning to build computers in my late teens. I practiced on DIRT CHEAP parts... intel celerons instead of the pentiums... cheap ass no brand name ram... IDE harddrives while SATA was the new standard. I built and worked on hundreds hundreds... and i got the practical skills of someone who has been doing the job for decades in a few years.
When i was 19 i put together 22 PCs from scratch in 8 hours (os and all) By my self. because there was a paperwork mix up and everything came down to the wire. Some of the cable management could have been better but they were all up and running and ready for shipping at the end of the day.
Guess what... all those parts were top of the line shit (of the day). Do you know how i was able to do it so efficiently? Because sticking a 10 dollar stick of ram into a slot is the same process as sticking a 50 dollar stick of ram into a slot. I had the practice and repetition and "experience".
The people that purchased those dirt cheap PCs btw were POOR and struggling and had no way in hell of paying for a "normally priced" computer.... I saw you call someone privileged in the comments section because they said they are too poor to buy expensive parts... Do you understand that you are actually the privileged one because you are able to buy expensive parts?
It requires no privilege to buy an original, non-counterfeit part. Cheaper parts =/= Counterfeit parts.
Lets not mince words here good friend the fact that they are counterfeit isnt the reason people are buying them... It's because they are cheap. If the original was the same price as the counterfeit then no one would buy the fake. So lets not get away from the real cause and effect here.
Brand named parts are expensive
Ebay parts are cheap
Poor people dont have money
So poor people buy the cheaper parts
What you are suggesting is taking a LARGE group of people and telling them to not be part of car culture because they arent "cool enough" (rich enough) Do you know how much smaller car culture would be if everyone who has ever bought/used a fake part just upped ant took your advice and just not participate in car culture?
I'm a gamer at the age of 15-20 i was literally one step above being a hobo so to play any games I had to pirate like jack sparrow. When i finally got done with schooling and was able to get a steady paycheck the first thing i did was head to the mall and buy a legit copy of Bad company 2 a game that i have pirated and fallen inlove with... Since that day i have never pirated another game.
What I am getting at is not everyone is as financially able as you may be. Was i right for pirating when i was broke? FUCK NO! But it got me into hooked into gaming and since then i have probably spent more than 30,000 dollars EASY on gaming related things... Everyone starts somewhere... they arent born with the fire sometimes it takes someone buying an ebay turbo then 10 years later he is the number 1 dragster in his state...
Bullshit. Counterfeit by definition is "made in exact imitation of something valuable with the intention to deceive or defraud". That means putting, for example an HKS label on a generic turbo and passing it off as the genuine thing. Aftermarket, alternative, etc are NOT fucking counterfeit. Best get your shit in order before attempting to denegrate your entire audience. A lot of OEM parts are that bad that uprated, aftermarket parts are produced as they last longer and in a lot of cases have more flexibility in their functionality. So the aftermarket parts that are dearer than OEM are shit too? You don't even know your own shit, saying one thing in a vid then ranting contradictions in the comment section. Which you said at the start of the vid you weren't interested in. Ooh, the irony.
I cant believe I'm actually gonna entertain this reply... sigh.
"Uhh.. maybe you should not be playing games & focusing on work or something." - This here is how you cultivate a generation filled with school shooters and mental instability (all work and no play as they say, gaming was my stress relief). And I'm not sure how things work in your country but paying someone under the age of 18 for work done is called "child labor" and its a crime. So getting any job higher than mowing lawns and washing windows is almost impossible. Age 18-24 Is literal 90% of your time in a book or classroom the other 10% is sleep and "unwinding". God I dont believe i have to explain this.
"If you cannot afford to do it right, maybe you shouldn't be doing it in the first place." - aaaaaand copy pasting my previous reply to this exact sentiment.... "telling them to not be part of car culture because they arent 'cool enough'" Here is an example of your sentiment applied to other things... Person cant afford a sports car like a Ferrari or a (insert expensive fast car here) you are telling them to either save, work them selves to the bone for decades to buy the "expensive sports car" STAY OUT OF OUR COOL KIDS CLUB ..... and if you buy a Miata and upgrade it you are scum and ruining "sports car culture"
"YES. GOOD. It needs to be smaller." - HAHAHAHA you are trying to fix the issue of people buying fake/cheap parts and putting after market parts makers out of business........ by cutting a HUGE portion of their "potential" buyers out of the picture. XD literally shed a tear laughing there. So off the bat i know you arent in marketing cuz you would run that company into the ground so fast. You see all those car shows with sparse crowds? or all those drag strips with half empty bleachers? Lets see all those venues stay open when a large part of "the culture" takes your advice and dips.
Lastly im gonna sum up the rest in saying... Do it right from the start huh? So forget the guys who started with nothing but their moms basement and some scrap parts that weren't even supposed to be used in that manner.... if we forget that then i wonder what you would be reading this comment on right now? If people didn't start out somewhere then the world would be in the says of covered wagons and open torches still. As i said before not everyone has what you have ... (steal a line from the feminazis and SJWs *CHECK YOUR PRIVILEGE* bleh ... tasted horrible )
35 year old "software engineer" that thinks you start stimulating a market by nuking half the buyers... oh yeah... not gonna even bother replying past that... good luck engineering your software... leave the marketing to people to do their job. First pc i built (took part in building) had an intel pentium 2 slot processor, an ISA port and like an 800mb harddrive :D the power)
Anyway... enjoy killing your pastime.
I agreed with you on the things you said, I even liked your video. Then I saw your "If you're hurt you're poor" comment. Man that comment alone brought you way down low. It expresses so much about your feeble little mind.
He's childish go down and look up for the comment from tourist87 grab some popcorn and watch that shit
holy shit, what a ride, that was.
@UC8kVS_ZhDVGQb1r6nZpF_7Q you stfu
I'll always have more respect for someone who put genuine love and passion into their car with cheaper parts than i will for someone who tossed a wad of banknotes at a garage team and left them to it for a week.
If a car looks good and runs well, why does it matter that someone else has a functionally identical setup to yours, but spent half as much to not have brand stickers on it?
Yeah i agree with you
3:38 RCR reference spotted
Yes! Glad you noticed. Fun fact, they were actually supposed to shoot my FD back when they roadtripped to colorado but my car broke. I ended up helping them shoot my friend's Forester and a kid's E30.
Rotors Magazine Haha he should review your EBay parts RX7!
That guy is awesome- loved his FD Review it was fair balanced and funny
I feel like you make yourself look like a tool. Who cares what others are doing, just do you.
Victor Jara prefer not to have someone walk up to me and tell me my mustang sucks because the v6 can't beat a 240 stock. A. That's wrong. b. I don't have a v6 soooo.
#6... The armchair engineers
#7... The magazine spec racers
#8... The "insert brand name" marketing ploy sucker
#9... The forum build thread with build list including aftermarket wiper blades, etc
"Respect stanced builds""Don't respect rusted out builds thst aren't taken care of"Stancing a car is not taking care of it, I will not respect a stanced build.
Ayy Lmao just because someone stances a car doesn’t mean they don’t care about it and love. That’s the dumbest shit ever
Rofl 乁(ᴗ ͜ʖ ᴗ)ㄏ nothing says more "I love my car" than scrapping over EVERYTHING while unable to drive faster than 50mph cause the Suspension Geomitry is so fucked up that even a Trip to Wallmart seems like a Touge Battle
@@cultusmechanicus8001 im not a big stance fan and I would never do it to my car, but I have driven them and my God its fun haha. And who gives a shit, they built them how they want it. You don't have to like it, but respect the effort and money and passion they put in.
@@cultusmechanicus8001 And who are you to tell other people what to do? It's THEIR car, THEIR money and THEIR love. Just because someone stances a car doesn't mean that they don't love it to bits. Your comment is invalid, stop caring about other people's builds so much and start caring about your own.
The most annoying fanboys are the Supra and r34 fanboys
True, same fanboys don't realize that theres more power plant variations out there other than a 2JZGTE or RB26
The merc with a mouth no the most annoying fanboys are the r35 kids and the Honda rice boys.
The merc with a mouth leave my Supra alone 😡
True I am a r34 fanboy but I can agree there are tons of good cars chasers rx7s I don't think the r34 is the best car I hate the people that are like ohh the skyline is the best car I remember no one liked the skyline until fast and furious came out and then all the 12 year olds who thought it was the best car it no I like it because it was good looking and a little cheap back then now it's all out 100k for an r34 but that's 20 years ago so all people who like the r34 are mostly 12 year olds
I'm an AMG fanboy, but my first one was a 6 cylinder 2000 CLK320 AMG, ended up swapping a single turbo 2jz in at around 220,000 miles on the original motor...... Still not even close to being as fast as my supercharged 2001 CLK55 AMG though.... Hence why I let my wife daily the 320 lol.
This video could be so much shorter...
Longer is better, ask your mom.
#Throwbackto2005
What happened in 2005? You asked your own mom if longer equals better?
You should have just taken the L, that reply was even worse.
I could actually find your comments more funny if I'd actually know what you're referring to in your fancey hashtags.
(Tbh I could also play serious and say the comment section exists for feedback and you can only come up with mom-jokes blah blah. Nor I nor you wants to read that though)
when "the L" gets more likes..
you missed the big one: the idiots that Ruin their damn cars with the stupid over camber bullshit. people that do that literally should have their cars taken away. it looks stupid for one, but the main thing is THAT IT RUINS THE DAMN CARS HANDLING BECAUSE WHEN YOU ONLY HAVE HALF THE DAMN TIRE TOUCHING THE GROUND HOW ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO GET ANYTHING RESEMBLING GRIP?
especially the people that camber the rears more than the fronts, thats now how it works, ugghhh.
a little bit of camber is fine and can increase handling, but anything more than like 10 degrees (and even thats probably too much) especially on the rears and you're ruined your car.
edit: googled it and optimal negative camber angles dont seem to go above 5 degrees. so even 10 degrees is way too much
rotors magazine! you guys sold me an s366 for a 1jz WAY cheaper than anyone else, and it ended up coming direct from BW. i reccomend everyone buy turbos from you
+Kowalskithegreat
I agree with you on everything but your third point, I think all builds deserve respect. Sure if the owner neglects to take care of his car it doesn't deserve recognition. But if an owner finds fulfillment/enjoyment when pouring time and money into their car that itself earns my respect.
crotchexplorer EXACTLY.
what is the point of respect if anyone can have it? think about it.
respect has to be earned, and if you just give it away you lose yourself.
xuddish- did you read that in rap lyrics or something? think for yourself.
leloodallasmultipass
What..? "Lose Yourself" is a song, but he didnt quote lyrics..
xuddish p My motto is respect isn't earned, it's given. There's a difference. Some people are bound to not respect you despite you believing that you have 'earned' their respect.
Like you don't earn a gift... you're given one. It's not something for you to 'earn'.
fanboys?? no no no... RX-7 FD3S is the crown jewel of our Lord and savior AHURA MAZDA, the pinnacle of human technology, the world-ending slayer of automobiles everywhere. TWIN ROTOR, TWIN TURBO!!!!! get with the knowledge before u get brapped on son
Steve Nelson "brapped on" lmao
More like the "apex" of human technology xD
wrong the "apex" of all technology forever
Steve Nelson lmaoo best comment
In goes the fuel, and out comes the apex seals!
The dislikes were from ricer honda bois, 1000hp supra stock 12 year olds and dudes with 3k on insta becuase they (a shop) built their widebody frs and they think there the shit. Also 6 cylinder muscle car owners.
The people ruining the car culture are those who want driverless cars😡
The stock shit talker kids: People who bring stock mustangs and jdm cars and think they are the center of the meet, and think they can race everybody cuz they bought a 5.0 They need to stop living immediately, like if you got a built mustang cool, respectable, just don't talk shit if it aint. Stock cars are fine at a meet, just dont try and be the center of attention, seriously annoying.
every r34 gtr at every meet
Nissan Tiida If a r34 GTR comes to a car meet its pretty rare though there's barely any out here in the US without getting crushed.
Nissan Tiida in the U.S it pretty much IS the center of the meet. r33 are the most common due to motorex, followed by r32 and a distant third is the r34.
I remember when I saw the owner of motorex in his r34 in san diego. I was on the bus far away from my house and was debating whether or not to just walk home so I could touch a r34 gtr.
ah to be 14 again
You should see the hate you get when you are a Stock car enthusiast like I am. I love to maintain JDM cars from the 80s and 90s at 100% stock. Don't get me wrong, I love modified cars too but my brand of enthusiasm is for stock cars maintained to a higher level. I get no love when I show up with a 94 Corolla, 100% stock but clean (near perfect) and low miles. Feels bad man.
Float I think it's because a 94 corrola is not much compared maybe to a ae86 corrola.
Surprised you didn't have a section about the shitty Honda guys who think they're top shit. I won't even try and lie, I'm a Honda person but I have a lot of hate and disrespect for the Honda ricers with straight pipes and bottomed out coil overs on cut springs, etc.
Shawn Hauser i feel you there, I'm a Honda man but hate the little ricers that currently buy them. Hate seeing them slammed to floor on £250 coilovers wheels cambered 5 or more degrees
But that's there taste it definitely doesn't agree with the majority but I mean if it's a cheap fart can that was made by the company it's there build so I can have respect for that but doesn't mean I think it's a nice build
just a shame when it's done to a track ready car like the EK9 😑
Shawn Hauser honestly I don't ever see these kids that you speak of.. this idea that there's all these Honda kids that think there car is fast and hot shit doesn't seem to exist anymore. most Honda owners with shitboxes and eBay parts are humble guys that like all cars.. just bull shit excuses to dog on Hondas tbh. and the dudes with well built fast Hondas are almost always genuinely nice and knowledgable car people. most egomaniac ass holes these days are all wheel drive guys and v8 mustang guys.
Well Cleveland, Ohio is Honda central. I see all types of Honda people.
Of course you're entitled to your own opinion, but this is a comment section, so here's mine.
1. "The Ebay Parts Kiddos", first of all, no one should have to be entitled to help or give out to the car community if they don't feel like doing so. No one actually cares about these chinese manufacturers making replica parts unless you're involved in the business or if you've been scammed, most people wouldn't buy unoriginal parts as they can be flawed by the manufacturer and unreliable, so you're talking about a small percentage of people which don't actually "ruin the car community."
2. You waving around 26k gained subs in the comments like it's some sort of respectable accomplishment and feeling entitled to feel as if you're to be respected because of that is laughable. Yet you respond towards all those disliking your video; not by making a new video, announcement, or alter a change in your videos, but by responding with negativity. That's the golden rule of thumb for a bad UA-camr.
I'm simply saying, if you make a video that just so happens to get near 50-50 ration likes/dislikes, maybe you should actually consider anything wrong you might've done, instead of rubbing your subscribers in other people's faces.
Captain Russia GET EM
Agreed! Is like if you dont have money to buy genuine overpriced parts you dont deserve to build a car of your vision, and if you do this douche will shame you for it!
To much cringe. Lmao why are you complaining. If you hate it soo much paypal the poor car kids money. So they build it how u want it lmao
Jorge Adames deadass if you want my car built right lemme give you my paypal
Haha this is interesting I agree with most of it my only thing is genuine parts.... I personally respect a build that has self made fabrication more than someone who buys parts off a shelf ... don't get me wrong still have mad respect for it cause parts are expensive and I respect the hustle it takes to afford them but if I walk up to two Rx7s and one has a lot more hand made one off stuff than the other I tend to like the hand made stuff more mostly because of the creativity that goes into making your own parts
I'm 500% behind making your own parts as well!
I so much agree, properly made DIY is really awesome!
like tyler fialko's camberghini, maybe its not so clean and all that but i love the creativity of his DIY :D
100% agree, I make a lot of my own stuff because of the high cost of parts and I hate when I pay the cost and I have to modify it anyway to get it to fit. I don't agree with the Rust thing either, sometimes you have rust because you got it that way and you are restoring it panel by panel.
Or you can't justofy spending tons in rust repair that would out value what the car would even cost.
I hate the "car enthusiast" that calls everything a ricer. Goes on to make a UA-cam channel focused on that same topic. He will continue to use the same clips over and over again regurgitating the same shit. Tries to be funny by adding jokes and shit in every compilation. It's cringey and sad that he get such a big following and only causes more people to spread the cancer.
he is sooo fucking annoying
In my opinion the worst kind is people who are obsessed with JDM, they act like anime characters and talk as such, also their cars look absolutely like garbage
ong they hate ricers but really are just ricer elitists
My favourite supercar is the Ford GT. Is it the fastest? No. Is it the best looking? No. Do I care? Hell no
SOSMinecraft1 your the kind of guy I respect.
6: People who have 6k subs on youtube and think they know the car scene better than anyone
18 now :)
You a pretty big deal eh bud?
12k subs in 2 months isn't bad. Put your butthurt aside.
The GTR and Skyline fanboys are awful.
Hello Friend love you...
This guy's a tool, why does he care what other people do to their own car? Is he our dad or what? 😂
1:37 you should have called it counterfeit parts instead of "replica parts" aka Alibaba
Replica = Counterfeit
Rotors Magazine maybe for car parts but replica does not really equal counterfeit
Replica = a replication of said part with equal amount of quality. Counterfeit = cheap knockoff with shitty quality.
Rotors Magazine counterfeit is labeled as real but not
9 times out of 10 none of the replica kits on the market have the same quality. They wouldn't be able to afford the manufacturing process and be able to sell it so cheaply. Replica kits have terrible fitment issues, and tend to need 10x the work to make them look half as good as the kit their knocking off.
If these companies didn't sell overpriced products, the Chinese wouldn't make copies.
i love chinese parts just because they create competition with name brands. forcing them to develop a superior product or lower retail price drastically.
so you don't know anything about engineering, development, manufacturing, or economics, do you?
More competition = incentive to make something better and cheaper. Quite simple.
The funny thing is tons of reputable and popular brands sold in America are the exact same product and they are produced overseas and relabeled/painted.
Yeah gotta get that mad laser etched logo yo, otherwise you'll ruin car culture
so he is complaining about people buying eBay parts well i cant afford to buy real parts and yes i know this hobby is expensive but if i buy the proper parts i wouldnt be able to pay my rent and insurance as i am just berly getting buy as it is
Michael Gallen as he says, you should get a big boy job so you can earn that big boy money kid
webz big boy job? you get that some people just dont want to spend lots of money on that
and if they dont more pwer to them
they can work on their car how they want
theres no criteria to be a car person
i have a good job but because of my age and where i live i have to wait a few years before i can earn good money from it and combine that with expensive rent and way over priced insurances. so yea and besides i you probebly dont even have a job
Michael Gallen that's a stupid assumption to make, you're never too young to earn good money. You're just not creative enough :)
but i am doing my dream job i it will take me a few years to get into a position to earn good money and beside u would know that if u had a job instead of getting the bank of mummy and daddy to pay for everything and u will learn this when ur are old enough to get a job
"You're welcome to disagree if you feel like you need to disagree."
...that's now how disagreeing works.
_The projection in this video is comical, let people do them. Being judgemental doesn't make you any better, ricers are horrid, but I think they should have a place_
I think the definition of rice has been lost really. In fact there are two original versions to describe, " performance modified stock vehicles", and "cosmetic visuals on stock vehicles." Rice A, is "Racing Influenced Car Enhancements," which means that performance that are influenced by racing counterpart cars from professional racing designed for racing. That includes your weight saving, Aero, spoilers, engine parts, you name it. However, Rice B, is "Racing Influenced cosmetic Enhancements," is different and by that it is by the word "cosmetic", which means it has miniscule to no effect on a car's performance. For so to say, stickers, recoating, and wraps fit in this category. Ricer C, is just the food you eat. Ricer D, on the other hand is just an insult used by enthusiasts to other car enthusiasts who finds what "they themselves" find to be distasteful to what other car enthusiasts do to their own cars. Which is definitely opinionated. So I say that Ricer D gets used more so often for insult rather by using the other definitions stated that fit their acronym perfectly.
"Guys dont respect shitty cars" "Guys be respectful"
Its like contradicting
stop judging people if they want to buy ebay parts thats them not your buissness, judging is ruining the community.
This. +1
so true, i feel like if you wanna put something in your car, fucking do it. it's your car... just don't rice the fuck out of it. lol
Come on man. Everyone knows you're only a cool guy if you buy your parts from people I endorse.
Honestly, the only people who ruin the car scene are the people who shit on someone because they did something to there car that they’ve wanted to and they paid for it. Let people do what they want to their own car because it’s there own car. Everyone’s car deserves just as much respect as any other car because they still put the time and money into it. The person who buys only eBay parts for their Civic deserves just as much respect as the guy with the 1000 horsepower Supra built on authentic parts. Because, guess what? They both took the time to show off there car because they are proud of it, so don’t shit them down because they didn’t buy real Works. You never know anyone’s financial situation, and not everyone can afford $800 per wheel. Everyone’s car is worthy of respect. I don’t care if you buy a fake HKS BOV or a real genuine HKS from BOV straight from Japan, because they both worked hard for that product, whether they paid $80 or $800. Don’t shit on someone because they can’t afford a part. Not everyone can afford expensive shit. Like me, I bought ESRs rep brides for my Mustang because I’m not in a position to spend $800 for one seat or $800 for a single wheel. And, they do they same thing. Do I respect the genuine parts, yes. Do I wish I could and plan to buy the genuine parts, yes. Can I do it right now, no. Because I’m only 17 and that shits expensive, and working at Walmart isn’t paying a lot. With that being said, I don’t sit around and say that they are genuine parts. And it’s not because I’m embarrassed, it’s because I’m proud of them. Because I worked hard for those parts. It still took me 7-8 paychecks to buy my wheels, tires, and seats because they were still a good $2000 for everything, so just imagine if I bought the real parts. I’d be saving for three months just to buy a seat or a wheel. And I’m definitely not doing that, so I went the rep route. Doesn’t mean I’m 100% happy that I did it, because I’m not. But just because I bought a rep doesn’t mean my car doesn’t deserve the respect that the guy who bought real parts gets, because it does. Because, we both did the same thing. We both used our hard earned money to buy them, and we both put in the work to install them.
There is really only one kind of car enthusiast that is ruining the car scene: The snob.
Lmfao you should add yourself to the list when you do a top 10 shittiest car guys ruining car culture
Lmfao you should add more context to your comment so you don't look like to much of a Fuck Boy...
Anyone that says what car culture should or shouldn't be is on the top of my list.
Pawel Kosentka so you've added yourself to this list as well correct? Lmao
No, I was trying to agree with you but I now see the logic loophole and my head is starting to spin.
Pawel Kosentka you are completely missing the point of the video... if this video was labeled as 5 types of car culture killing the community I would get it... At no point in this video did he ever disrespect a type of car culture he never said stances cars are cancer muscle car owners have small dicks and import owners are rice burning fairy boys. At least watch the video before you make a comment.
I personally like EBay parts. No they aren't "as good" as genuine parts but I do think enthusiast cars are something that should be accessible to everyone. I'm 17 and just bought myself an 1993 NA-6 Miata.
I do not think everyones build should have to be aesthetically nice or use 100% Genuine parts as it comes back down to money. Money shouldn't be an issue, That's why i think even the brokest guy using all EBay parts deserves respect. Its because he is one of us. By only giving respect to the "nicer" looking builds you are dividing the car community into social classes.
My point being I think the 600+ WHP 4 Rotor RX-7 and the 100 WHP 197K Mile Daily Miata should get the same respect provided they aren't jackasses.
Everything else you say I agree with.
2K Tan in my opinion you have to earn your respect .... on the quarter mile or circuit. if you can outpace a guy or women who spent 60 k spent 40 or 20 that right there is respect well earned.
I'll own you in my civic, girl.
NFS Beast You sure? ;P
oh hi
streetboost garage You will man! Patience and time :)
You forgot the gtr fanboys that try to ruin instagram
jiffyjeffyjeff yes! I respect the car, still not a fan of it but I don't respect the little jack ass talking shit cuz I don't like gtrs just happened to me yesterday...
As long as you are willing to admit you built the car with eBay parts I don't see what your issue with them is. Just because someone can't afford or is not willing to spend a lot on name brand parts doesn't give you a reason to hate them. To each their own man don't hate on someone for what parts they buy. Also it's not about respecting everyone's ride its about not being a dick to someone for doing something they like.
I completely agree to that. Some of the parts on my car are from craigslist or eBay and I dont try to make them look genuine with stickers or shit. I have rep wheels and I'll admit it.
Yea, this guy went a little crazy bitching about ebay parts...
www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2380057.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.XEBAY+BUILT+sticker.TRS0&_nkw=EBAY+BUILT+sticker&_sacat=0
buy yourself one of those and fucking own it
I think he meant replica parts that are copys with lower build quality
K No right to hate? Hahahahaha. That's the beauty of hatred. There is no need for justification. You fucking moron.
No respect for rusted out? Oh cmon.
Yeah that one annoyed me too. That's why I go more off of: 1- if you tried your best, 2- it was all you could afford, 3- it's what you personally are happy with, 4- is it legal/safe for other drivers. If all those check out, up most respect.
1:44 Inb4 he says "The LS swap everything" guys.
EDIT:: Oh, cool. He didn't do it. Mad respect, bro.
Your the type of people ruining car culture by criticizing other people who have the same passion you do but a different style
Just to clarify: can people that bought their cars to their personal liking show up at meets and stuff? They're naturally social events, so most people just assume that you want to be critiqued and/or talked to about your car.
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Why use Ebay parts "Honda Accord" as the bad example? A modified Honda Accord is kinda rare
A Lemon you can see shitty riced accords everywhere
webz Not were i live at least, When I rarely do see a modified Accord, They are clean and simple Jdm style
A Lemon i see alot in my neighborhood, 2 actually looked decent but not into lowered cars
Are you from Kansas City Missouri.
I mean nobody can ruin a car scene, honestly let people like what they like you know. They have a passion. Everyone starts somewhere like eBay parts 😂😂 haven’t we all
I love supras but I can't say it's the best because it's just opinion
#2... But miata is always the answer
The person who respects all builds isnt a stereotype. Its called a human being who has respect for a fellow car enthusiast and their car.
I don't get the Ebay parts. I mean, if the imitation parts work like radiators and such that you can get for WAAAY cheaper ($110 vs 250), why not? Sure it undercuts the main aftermarket companies but at least you got cheap parts to use, especially for someone who rags on their cars alot that need constant cheap parts.
Look. You have to realize that there are tons of college kids who want to have a modified import or even muscle car but they're not sharks with tons of money to throw around like a maniac or have the will to force themselves to mod a car they want but then eat breadcrumbs every meal. These ebay mods give them hope. Of course you have to know what mods they are and how they work. Ebay mods don't get my hate in general as when I was in college, my NA1 NSX also had some imitation ebay parts from Thailand like racing grade oil pump and at one point imitation Advan wheels. What do get my hate are those who buys ebay parts and does ridiculous shits to their cars that either makes it worse or even doesn't work.. Like a fartcan on a Dodge Neon or a non-SiR/Type R Civic. If you know how to utilize the parts, go ahead and get ebay ones. I don't care.
That's one of the main points he's trying to make that is utter bullshit.
A part is not necessarily a bad part, one that is going to leave you stranded by the highway or at the bottom of a ditch, just because it's a cheap Chinese knockoff.
And if it wasn't for cheap Chinese knockoffs a lot of people wouldn't have cars to ride. Yeah it's illegal, somewhat immoral and unethical...but only if you ignore the benefits to those who cannot afford to keep their cars running with either factory parts or legitimate, "quality" 3rd-party parts. Sometimes you just need a cheap, half-ass part just to keep it running. Are they illegal to make and sell? If they are mislabeled copyright-violating parts, yes. You're damm straight. Are they going to be made and sold by the millions anyway?
Of course!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
How many Honda owners have a legitimate, genuine Honda exhaust on their car?
Oil filter? You name it, if they're deep in the miles they've got cheap as knockoff parts on their car. Are they labeled as Honda parts? Probably not because it would be obvious that they are counterfeit parts, right? Because you KNOW that if they are legitimate Honda parts they're not going to be price-competitive.
Cheap, knock-off parts are one thing.
Counterfeit parts are one thing. Stolen parts are another thing entirely.
Ebay sees all of the above including legitimate factory parts that dealers dump on eBay because they can't source the parts, can't continue to list them, can't sell them and need to dump their inventory. Same thing with warehouses and 3rd-party vendors. Same with Craigslist, Amazon, all of them, as long as they can hide the fact that they're stolen thieves will sell them. But how would you know that they are stolen? You have no proof that they are stolen, you know the market is full of legitimate parts from legitimate vendors and resellers, and you're going to condemn the entire market? I guess that's like the time during Daytona bikeweek when the cops accused everyone on a sportbike of street-racing and confiscated every sportbike they saw...even the ones parked in hotel parking-lots.
The cops were right in that a large number of sportbikes had been street-racing or would be street-racing soon. That doesn't justify confiscating every sportbike they saw south of Jacksonville. Or I don't know, maybe it does.
after all why should they not just confiscate everything that might be used in a crime
ricers, everyone hates ricers.
eightdot no depend on what you mean by ricing. If the rice is internal parts to improve performance then it's fine, but if they start making the exterior and focusing purely on the looks it just doesn't make sense.
and those that like to take thier mufflers off.
What about Amazon car parts? They any better?
Yeah, its not like everything ebay sells is a knock off. You can buy legit parts through them for a fraction of what the local speed shop would charge
Amazon I love for parts. I got tired of dealing with auto Zone's attitude. Then once they turn rotors for a fee(which I was willing to pay) the machine to turn them was down for 3 months. I got mad bought new rotors on amazon for the price auto zone wanted to turn my rotors. Plus I'm a prime member so free 2 day shipping. And I usually have 1-2 packages arrive at my shop a week so I quit going to automotive shops
Yes, every single person has tens of thousands to just throw on there build
That's what makes well executed builds special.
BROTORS "if you're not rich then you cant build a well executed car" I guess that's your option. Makes you sound so stuck up
BROTORS just because someone can’t spend $10k on a car means that their build isn’t special. If that what it means, the. I don’t want to be special. You’re such a fucking piece of shit
The “dude let me drive it” ones are the worst
God this video is so cringy
Saying cringy is so cringy.
Cassius Emmanual UA-cam Player you just said it twice lmao
KyoKyoM99 DAMMIt ya got me!
No u
The amount of people who can't figure out the difference between a counterfeit part and a cheaper generic part is embarrassing. Buy original, don't support people who steal.
I just downloaded a hks turbo on piratebay, gunna stuff it in my accord once its done :)
Hey I like a lot of what you are saying, especially the parts about the know it all who knows nothing. As well as the part about, those so called ebay parts kiddies. As I have run up on both of those people, even in the digital world with people who design 3D cars and bikes. In the digital design community, we see a lot of that with people ripping builds from GTA then importing them into other systems for personal gain just like you spoke about the ebay parts kiddies doing. But I have had a huge problem, with the know it all who knows nothing when talking to some of my trucker friends who drive semi's for a living. And it is usually with some know it all, that talks about how much better a turbine engine is compared to a diesel, without understanding the applications that both engines are used in.
Rotors Magazine agreed, so many people buying replica rocket bunny kits for frs/brz should be called out and shamed, kei miura does not deserve his kit being copied cheaply..
Rotors Magazine agreed, so many people buying replica rocket bunny kits for frs/brz should be called out and shamed, kei miura does not deserve his kit being copied cheaply..
Rotors Magazine a few years ago i've sad that if i ever see black chinese with freckles i will see everything...and you made that come true. Thank you!!
as soon as he said fanboy, the thought of people at my high school that say "my dream car is a R34 skyline like in fast and furious" but know absolutely nothing about cars and only know how to drive auto
"Have a lust for power and sexy sounding engines? Get a dose of Wankel Rotary! Lost those stupid cams and pistons! Have higher redlines! Lose those pesky engine vibrations!"
(Note: Side effects may include debt, constant work to continue running smoothly, poor gas mileage, etc.)
BTW I love Rotaries too, I'm just making a joke here.
sure counterfeit parts are killing company's but not everyone has the money for the real deal parts
Still doesn't justify it. I can't afford this, so I'll actively support a company that's STEALING the designs of the other company.
NoOne Smith same
so having a modified car is only for people who have money?
It's only "stealing" if the company who designed it went through the effort of patenting the design. No patent? No intellectual property.
how do you feel about tj hunt then because he has a rep rbv3 kit on his brz?
pena mena rocket bunny itself is a rep of liberty walk so whats ur point lol
Please Take A Sip What? How is rocket bunny pandem a rep of liberty walk? Yes they both are widebody kits but are different designs. And my point was what do you think of TJ Hunt because he used a rep V3 kit and I was wondering where that stood on his morality scale.
pena mena fuck tj hunt he's not even a real car guy and he's a ricer
You're so wrong it's not funny. Designed by the guy, made by the same people and factory in Japan, marketed by two different companies.
The kits are the same.
Who are you talking to? Me or the guy who said Rocket Bunny is a rep of Liberty Walk?
The worst kind of car people have 15 second cars, but always talk about how fast it is and make nothing but excuses.
It's funny, this is literally a list that you could probably apply to anything if you change phrasing.
Good shit my dude, personally in my opinion, this is pretty much how I feel about people in general.
maybe ebay parts are only what someone can afford . ya ever give that a thought.
6: The guy who won't accept when a car enthusiast drives an auto trans car instead of manual because of 'omg auto no skill, boring dumb slower on race track only good for drag race hurr durr'
Sam Boofle I can drive both. Manual is sort of annoying tbh and humans and gears can only move so fast
Autos arent even good for drag. it shouldnt exist
Vekoh Just shut it kid. Both are good and have their pros and cons
Vekoh How are they bad for drag?
lol how are they good?
The only rule we always followed was "If you didn't build it, it's not really yours"
The one thing that is truly ruining car culture is the amount of hate that it has.
Before you say 'not everyone can afford genuine parts', that is 150% your fault. Cars are a hobby, an expensive one at that. You want the cool kid parts? You gotta make the cool kid money. That requires having a cool kid job. That also means taking care of your cool kid responsibilities. If you say 'not everyone can afford to spend their money on car parts', good. That's what makes a proper build that much more appreciable. The most annoying counter argument is "I have to pay for X, I have to pay for Y, that's why I can't pay for car parts". Here's a secret, every single person in life has financial obligations as well. Almost every adult pays for their bills and kids, no excuses. Rather than get your quick fix because you feel you're entitled to use a stolen design part, work harder for what you aspire to build and appreciate it that much more.
It's almost as if you didn't read or listen to anything I've said.
I'm specifically speaking about COUNTERFEIT parts. Parts that claim to be Greddy, HKS, or Apexi, but are not. Go to ebay, look up 'HKS SSQV', almost every single listing is a FAKE part. Go to ebay, look up 'Greddy Type S BOV' almost every single listing is a fake part. Go to ebay, look up Tial MV-S Wastegate, all those dirt cheap ones? They're FAKE.
People ripping off part designs and selling parts as those parts only to have them fail destroys company reputations, it cuts into their development costs. That's the issue. Making similar parts that serve the same function? No big deal. Running a wheel that maybe kinda sorta looks like another wheel? No big deal. Running a body kit that emulates another body kit? No big deal.
Stealing a brand name part, copying it 1:1 and selling it as that brand part with inferior materials? Yes, that is a big deal.
Rotors Magazine
I get it. Good parts are pricey. Sure I could get a twin turbo "Greddy" system for $50 on eBay. I'd rather get the parts worth getting, if I had hafta save up for them. Especially rims. There was an article on knock-off rims on CarThrottle not too long ago. Sometimes ya gotta go cheap...but still...
Really...? Just looked up HKS SSQV on ebay, it's all malaysian and chinese parts. If you're not searching name brand parts, clearly you weren't listening to the point I was making.
Yes they are... All these 'HKS SSQV's use HKS branding and say they are HKS SSQV blow off valves...
All those fake Tial MV-S Wastegates say they're Tial Wastegates. Fake Aeromative FPRs say they're Aeromative FPRs. All these parts are claiming to be OEM. You're simply not grasping it.
Come on man... nobody is ruining any culture. People have different opinions and we all have to accept that
The "fanboy" is like every kid in the world that into cars...
So you say that kids shouldnt be into cars!?
Some of the "enthusiasts" that I've grown to hate are the Americans who blindly hate on imports and they worship trucks and muscle cars and say that they are better than everything else. It makes me mad that people even try to compare the two when they are meant for different things. Try taking your 1000 HP Duramax or 1000 HP Mustang on a touge race against an RX7 or Civic with significantly less power and see what happens. Someone's gonna end up in a ditch. Imports are solely meant to be a mix between decent power, reliability and good handling. Not driving in a straight line with 10 billion HP for 6 seconds down the 1/4 mile...
That's why i only buy genuine eBay parts!
Too much facts lmao many mad ppl
*Many
I think you have a misunderstanding of the word "fact", he didn't pull out any statistics or sources. He was making statements mainly based on his personal experience.
Jacob Beriguete I
*many
Too many dumbasses who can't put together a coherent sentence; let alone make a valid argument without name calling and whining.
You don't need to respect their build, the point of that statement is more to frown upon the people who go around talking shit just because someones car does fit THEIR preferences. If they ask you for your opinion then sure, say how you feel but don't go around giving your opinion on everything when nobody asked or wants it. If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all.
yeah its pretty annoying when people get super obnoxious at meets. the most annoying thing is when people are yelling into your window " 2 step !! " or asking you to just rev it up. like those people who egg it on also need to stop it because its unnecessary.
I came here expecting a good show. Instead found fascist car culture 101.
Found the stance noob.
Its his OPINON he can say anything he wants lol
If YOUR car culture is all about driving expensive cars and buying expensive parts. I don't want to be part of YOUR car culture, (and I'm not poor btw) actually with only 22 years old I'm sure I own a better car than you did when you was my age. I lost my time watching this video, but at least an can give you my humble opinion.
Agreed. Very late comment but This guy clearly is the type to shit on other people’s cars, I believe In all types of builds, no matter how unusual they are. It’s still THEIR car and clearly if they put lots of work into it, they’re an enthusiast in my eyes. So long as they don’t act like uppity pricks about it or try to race everyone , accelerate hard at every light, etc. either way, much agreed, doesn’t matter if they have to cheap out on parts. Not everyone is blessed with earning tons of money to dump into their car
I'm a car enthusiast that doesn't know shit about how engines work. I just like how cars look and sound. My dream car is a R35, and recently I've been developing an appreciation from older cars from before the 2000s. I used to think the older porsche 911s looked ugly but now I think they're actually pretty nice.