Sounds like they’re acting like a law abiding government. The law is the law ALL the time. As mentioned in the hit piece there are avenues to change that law, but the folks want to follow the age old American tradition of please make an exception just for me. Here in lies the problem. Once an exception is made for them, who else gets exceptions? And to which laws? Propose an amendment…it will be voted on and either passed or not. It amazes me how so many people who think this country is the first/only democracy in the world forget so easily how a democracy works. PS: I doubt this village is surviving solely on the taxes generated by this bar, and the loss of a booze dealer is not going to do the town in.
Probably people that moved from another state and they want to bring their other state local ordinance and laws be careful who you vote for in City councils
You're right they are very cool it's a lost art they don't make signs like that no more the bad part is Art is very controversial even with these sites and it seems like the town doesn't have a whole heck of a lot going for it other than this business I guess they rather have the Lost Revenue gaining revenue for the community in local taxes but who am I to say @@keithmichael112
The wise choice is to move the business and signs to a nearby community. The waiver request will cost money and isn't a sure thing. If the town council can't look at an ordinance before adopting and see the law of unitended consequences (Robert K. Merton) then it's time to move on. That council can find the lost tax revenue from another clearly non existent business, as the report notes that he is the only one in town. @@meangene98
dalbert4369 The owner should not have to go to the trouble and expense of moving his business. The signs were there before the law changed. They are grandfathered in.
And that is a problem? If you look at state and local laws around the US you will figure out pretty quickly that most of the laws are copies of another jurisdiction. Just because something has been there for a long time or something gives joy to someone doesn't mean it should be accepted or allowed to continue. The video shows a cluttered storefront and most municipalities have sign laws limiting the number and size of signs allowed on each business.
@@jcclark2060 There is nothing wrong with copying laws from other places, but it needs to be a good fit for the constituency. A lot of copied laws differ in their final text as they can be altered as needed to fit the local sensibilities. For example many states "copied" constitutional carry in concept, but the laws for carry varry quite a lot state by state. This sounds just like a copy and paste being abused by representatives so lazy they can't be bothered to actually do their jobs imo.
Village board members in search of a problem. Over-the-top pettiness. And the thought of forcing the signs to be taken down, and then the business owner is supposed to apply for an amendment ... so he can put the signs back up. Not exactly the most enlightened and practical thinking coming from the board members.
Art not advertising thus exempt! I'm pretty sure he doesn't sell products from those businesses. And since the community supports the signs, maybe they should start a recall petition.
I'm pretty sure those signs were created as advertising from the beginning, so it's hard to now claim they're art. But on the other hand, I think the council being petty and stupid.
@@demophys4883 Not in the least as advertising these signs weren't utilized on this property. Also being old & not actually advertising a product. They're clearly MORE art than signage.
I live in Northern California and absolutely LOVE your signs! My Dad, who passed away almost 10 years ago, had an automotive business and sold Standard gasoline in the 1960's before they changed their name to CHEVRON. You brought back fond memories to this lady & I appreciate it. I'm sure I am not the only one that gets those feelings seeing those signs. We need reminders of better days to keep hope in this disintegrating nation we live in. I surely hope you get to keep your signs as a tribute to a great time in our nation. It's SO hard to keep a business/restaurant open in these times of inflation. Town Council, I would appreciate it if your would adopt a resolution to allow an exception. Thank you! ❤️🇺🇸💙
This town council is so willing to spend money on this enforcement. It is plain old stupid, the taxpayers are footing the bill for this foolishness. Make your vote count for someone who will represent the citizens of this town. Just shows you the kind of people who say many words that will not back them up with action. Any council person could introduce an amendment and it is obvious that none are willing.
Does anyone remember the "Fish Mural" lawsuit out of Clearwater, FL about 15 years ago? ACLU of Florida associate legal director. “The city had no right to stifle the owners’ free speech, and we are very pleased that the court enjoined the city’s unconstitutional conduct.” If it's deemed non-commercial speech, it can't be regulated under a sign ordinance. Have the owner put up a sign with the American flag on it, then have the town council order him to take that down, then watch what happens. Local governments should take care to define the boundary between commercial and non-commercial speech, using distinctions found in case law applicable to the local government.
Call it a museum and be done with it. People coming to a place to see relics from the past... A Museum :). Also. As a last resort, sue the city council for not allowing a grandfather clause. This should at least get a stay (hope my terminology is correct) from a court before any damage is done. Agreed, this does sound personal.
You wouldn't believe how many towns in the Midwest are like this. The goal is to sit around and talk about how things were 40+ years ago... "We used to have a mens clothing store, 2 drug stores, 2 shoe stores, womans clothing store, 2 grocery stores, a dime store, hardware, lumber yard, 5 taverns, a meat locker, 2 banks, 2 dentists, 4 doctors, etc. etc....." "What have you done to spure growth and development the last 50 years?" Why, we put in some curb and gutter on some streets!" But we also don't want ANY change. I've lived this.
@@RANDOMNATION907 I understood him easily enough. Can't you read? Maybe you should take the time to address your subpar reading comprehension skills. That and your need to bully people...
Someone on the board has maken this 100% personal. This is art for a business, not company advertising. Wish we could learn what was the initial issue between the owners and the town board(members)
The signs look great. What is the rationale for the new law? That the local town officials refuse to answer questions about this tells me they know it's indefensible.
If I was on the council, having passed this law, my attitude would certainly be along the lines of _Oops! Unintended Consequesnce! Let's fix this!_ instead of being like a damn HOA. I mean Please! This is *_Art!_* that townspeople _enjoy!!!_ I'm sorry I live over 7 hours away...😒
How incredibly petty of the town council to pick on those signs which are NICE to look at. If they were regular commercial boring signs I could see it but not these vintage signs that nostalgic, and give such a nice feeling and ambience.
In Alaska they made a sign ordnance so now businesses buy an old box van, register it and have a sign painted on it. They then park it by the road in front of their business.
My family came from Nebraska and I always thought people in Nebraska had common sense. Guess that has changed like everything else in my 80 years on earth.
Unfortunately that isn’t the case if you are a business. Pretty much all cities have ordinances that regulate the signage that is allowed to be displayed by a business. There are regulations on how high a sign can be, how close it can be to a road, if it can be lighted or not, what is allowed on the sign, etc. Now if this was someone that had a bunch of signs that were around his shop in his backyard, or by his home, it would be different. And for the most part, these regulations are re a good thing. They keep a business from putting up some large neon sign that will shine into a person’s bedroom, or some gaudy looking sign that takes away from the appeal of the neighborhood. Stuff like that is what these regulations and ordinances are meant for. And remember, you run a business with the permission of the city/country so they have the final word. In this case the village is cutting their own throat by threatening to close or fine the only business that brings in revenue and is pretty stupid. And it doesn’t sound like it is what the majority of the people living there want, it sounds like someone is making this personal. You may not agree with it, but it is legal and the village has the authority to either fine him or revoke his business license. So no, you cannot put up any sign you like if you are a business owner, even if it is on your own property.
@@TheCrazyMoparDude68You are partially right. The regulations you are citing are usually in place in larger towns and cities and also in areas listed as historic so as not to disturb the tone of the town or area. In a small town like this these type of regulations are not usually needed unless as stated earlier someone wants to put up a bright sign that may intrude on another persons property. It seems to me the town council should be happy for what he has done. As he stated in the video it encourages visits to the town and his business that helps raise the tax revenue for the town. Also who knows it may also lead to other classic automotive type of businesses to start up in this town.
There are too many other issues in the world to worry about. Leave this man alone and let him and the rest of the community enjoy these nostalgic signs.
Councilors, why do you import bylaw 'holus-bolus' from other villages without carefully scrutinizing it or is your town lawyer also theirs too and soon you 'do nothings' will be merged into them.
If there's a process for getting an exception or variance, he should follow it. The Board should allow the signs to remain until the exception is either granted or denied. They are not advertising!
Just a few miles west, the council could visit Pioneer Village in Minden - that town survives because of a quirky collection of vintage farm equipment, vehicles, dolls, salt and pepper shakers, and whatever else struck the eccentric fancy of Minden's most successful native son. Maybe they'd learn something about how to keep their village living!
Our city has a boulevard that has many vintage signs from long gone businesses as a historic monument. This town is being petty and stupid! The local historic society salvaged them and restored them. They are lighted at night and bring back memories of many long gone cherished businesses.
There is a concept known as "grandfathering" if the town adopted these laws after the signs were already in place. A really clever lawyer might be able to argue that the grandfather clause applies to all the zoning in place when he bought the property and that these new zoning rules can only apply after the property changes hands. Who knows. Lawyers can be tricky like that.
Does anyone remember spaghetti where house resturant. They were full of vintage signage. It was neat to go in and be seated someplace different each time to see all the antiques. And many memories.
Those people can actually call an emergency re.election in there town they don't need city council approval if 80% of the people want them out that is the right of the people
remember folks, "zoning laws" and "signage laws" are just legal ways that people YOU elected exercise petty tyrant power over YOU. Those signs are not hurting anyone, yet some Karen or Joey wants to be able to be the tyrant and decide what this guy does on HIS property. Collecting thousands in tax revenue just isn't enough for them.
Take your signs and close shop and tell ‘em how do you like me now @itch ! You can bet this has nothing to do with the sign and everything to do with someone wants his property(land) to develop!
His signs should be grandfathered in since they existed before the new ordinance was adopted, unless there's specific language in the ordinance stating such.
There are 1.968 million (2022) people who live in all of Nebraska, I really don't think the signs are going to cause any harm to any one of them to leave them up. It just shows how little the village council has to do with their time.
Vintage signage like those should be considered as a form of pop art and protected. Good on this man for collecting and curating those memories of america.
The attorney for the town council advised them to not make any comment. They’re knee-deep in this and pretty soon it’s gonna be shoulder deep in a recall election. The Attorney for the town Council should’ve advised the counsel ahead of time you might want to reconsider this.
These signs bring me joy too! The footage shows they’re carefully displayed and arranged to be attractive, versus some some careless, jumbled mess. I think the town council mentioned here would be foolish, disappointingly consumed by their own “power”, and incredibly short-sighted to pursue the removal of these signs. That would be a sad display of the “worst” side of representative government. Council, listen to the people you represent and CORRECT your mistake… don’t COMPOUND it!
Technically those signs aren’t signs and only used as decorations. They have nothing in common to the business and just there for the designs. So technically the signs are allowed!
My gosh! It's a "village" with less than 300 people and they are acting like a city with reasonable sign rules. Leave them alone! - Here, a support from Montreal, Canada.
Its sad. So much chaos and madness in this world, and people are worried about vintage signs. People need to grow up and worry about more important issues going on
We have had a sign ordinance in my town since before I moved here. The primary stipulations are no billboards, and signage must be attached flat to the face of your business. When I first moved here I didn't notice the difference a sign ordinance makes and just went along living life. But when I left town to a place without a sign ordinance I almost felt nauseas by seeing billboards and signs blocking every view. Driving through it felt like being on a website with too many pop-up ads. I wonder if their new ordinance permits the signs at lower heights or wall-mounted. It does seem odd for such a small town to worry about the ordinance, but if tourism is a big part of the economy it will pay off to keep that small town vibe.
They sortof did the same thing in another city in my area. The council basically adopted a new code that bans new tobacco and vape shops from opening within 1000ft of schools or daycare facilities but are grandfathering any existing locations. It's more or less to prevent the kids from seeing all the advertisements which is just even more govt censorship. As long that the signs are within the code I don't see how it matters how many he has on his property.
“Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right.” ― George Orwell, 1984
I would refuse to take them down and make them take me to court. It's ridiculous that they can "adopt" a neighboring law without townspeople input. And apparently the people don't agree with it.
The town council that opposes it is absolutely unhinged. They are in a unremarkable town in a unremarkable state. I gurantee that everybody who drives through the town agreea with that statement, and the only thing that gives the town any class or interest is the antique signs that aren't littering the property they are on, but are actially beautifully displayed. Shame on them.
They’re acting like an HOA.
Sounds like they’re acting like a law abiding government. The law is the law ALL the time. As mentioned in the hit piece there are avenues to change that law, but the folks want to follow the age old American tradition of please make an exception just for me.
Here in lies the problem. Once an exception is made for them, who else gets exceptions? And to which laws?
Propose an amendment…it will be voted on and either passed or not.
It amazes me how so many people who think this country is the first/only democracy in the world forget so easily how a democracy works.
PS: I doubt this village is surviving solely on the taxes generated by this bar, and the loss of a booze dealer is not going to do the town in.
Given that both are authoritative bodies we surrender our sovereignty to, are you surprised?
@@bgrigg07 I _never_ surrender. I never give up my rights to anybody, least of all some so-called "authority."
The Times They Are A-Changin'
All cities are now HOAs
The vintage signs are not causing any trouble... the idiots that want them down are.
+1 - underrated comment.
Typical city council causing more problems and solving few.
Probably people that moved from another state and they want to bring their other state local ordinance and laws be careful who you vote for in City councils
They look cool I think
You're right they are very cool it's a lost art they don't make signs like that no more the bad part is Art is very controversial even with these sites and it seems like the town doesn't have a whole heck of a lot going for it other than this business I guess they rather have the Lost Revenue gaining revenue for the community in local taxes but who am I to say @@keithmichael112
Time for a recall election.
Yepper time to vote them out.
Good grief - the anti-sign people are so petty!
It is the MAGA spill over, all about rage and blaming others. This story should never have even been a story.
It’s not like the signs are defacing the town or are graffiti. They’re nice vintage signs that are classy.
A town council. For what? It’s a village with one business.
And they’re about to chase him out.
The wise choice is to move the business and signs to a nearby community. The waiver request will cost money and isn't a sure thing. If the town council can't look at an ordinance before adopting and see the law of unitended consequences (Robert K. Merton) then it's time to move on. That council can find the lost tax revenue from another clearly non existent business, as the report notes that he is the only one in town. @@meangene98
@@dalbert4369 That was pretty much my point.
dalbert4369
The owner should not have to go to the trouble and expense of moving his business. The signs were there before the law changed. They are grandfathered in.
The town council is so lazy that they simply did a Copy & Paste of another town’s ordinances without reading them through? Geez……
And that is a problem? If you look at state and local laws around the US you will figure out pretty quickly that most of the laws are copies of another jurisdiction. Just because something has been there for a long time or something gives joy to someone doesn't mean it should be accepted or allowed to continue. The video shows a cluttered storefront and most municipalities have sign laws limiting the number and size of signs allowed on each business.
To be fair, this bar is the ONLY business providing tax revenue to the town. I'd bet money the council is either volunteer or part time.
@@jcclark2060 There is nothing wrong with copying laws from other places, but it needs to be a good fit for the constituency. A lot of copied laws differ in their final text as they can be altered as needed to fit the local sensibilities. For example many states "copied" constitutional carry in concept, but the laws for carry varry quite a lot state by state. This sounds just like a copy and paste being abused by representatives so lazy they can't be bothered to actually do their jobs imo.
Exactly what I thought when I heard it. Town governments all over the country are getting like this.
Tell me you've never been to a small town without telling me you've never been to a small town.
Village board members in search of a problem. Over-the-top pettiness.
And the thought of forcing the signs to be taken down, and then the business owner is supposed to apply for an amendment ... so he can put the signs back up. Not exactly the most enlightened and practical thinking coming from the board members.
well its what the next town would have done. So they really didn't have to think about it to decide what was best for their constituents.
He needs to sue them into the poorhouse.
@@CrazyBear65 Sue them personally and not let the rate payers stump up the dough.
You don't hate government enough. You think you do, but you don't
Ha
Sounds like its time to un-elect a town council.
“If voting mattered, they wouldn’t let us do it”
Art not advertising thus exempt! I'm pretty sure he doesn't sell products from those businesses.
And since the community supports the signs, maybe they should start a recall petition.
The ordinance is likely similar to other newer ordinances that make no distinction about the purpose of signage.
I'm pretty sure those signs were created as advertising from the beginning, so it's hard to now claim they're art. But on the other hand, I think the council being petty and stupid.
@@demophys4883
Not in the least as advertising these signs weren't utilized on this property. Also being old & not actually advertising a product. They're clearly MORE art than signage.
@@demophys4883 so Andy Warhol's Campbell's soup cans are advertising?
@@ronnielittlerock7208i bet these is some winey prude who would make that assumption…….
The Town could elect a new set of council members during the next elections if they don't moderate their positions.
Even if they change their tune, they should go.
Imagine having such a sad, petty little life that you would make a crusade out of making a guy tear down a harmless collection of memorabilia. WTF
Randy must have big-time, seriously pissed off somebody on the town council. This sounds totally personal. I'm an outsider, so what do I know?
You don't have to do anything to upset those kinds of people, they're just hateful naturally .
And he probably just didn't say "hi" to a council member at the grocery store. Probably not something big. Lol
Maybe some overbearing teetotaller.. butt out!
Maybe he wouldn't pay the bribe money to the officials so they would turn a blind eye?
City council needs to find a hobby.
That is the problem being on town council is there hobby .But they are not good at at there hobby that suck at it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The chairman of that towns board must be named Karen. Those Vintage signs are so cool.
More like a ken. These small towns usually are run by men being goobers
Leave this man and his business alone. Those signs are beautiful.
This is an example of peoples rights being trampled upon. I suggest that these folks contact the Institute for Justice for help.
Yes
he should sue saying his 1st admenment rights are being violated
I live in Northern California and absolutely LOVE your signs! My Dad, who passed away almost 10 years ago, had an automotive business and sold Standard gasoline in the 1960's before they changed their name to CHEVRON. You brought back fond memories to this lady & I appreciate it. I'm sure I am not the only one that gets those feelings seeing those signs. We need reminders of better days to keep hope in this disintegrating nation we live in. I surely hope you get to keep your signs as a tribute to a great time in our nation. It's SO hard to keep a business/restaurant open in these times of inflation. Town Council, I would appreciate it if your would adopt a resolution to allow an exception. Thank you! ❤️🇺🇸💙
Unbelievable! Something so simple and that brings joy to so many, and the local government can’t see that. When is the next town election?
This town council is so willing to spend money on this enforcement. It is plain old stupid, the taxpayers are footing the bill for this foolishness. Make your vote count for someone who will represent the citizens of this town. Just shows you the kind of people who say many words that will not back them up with action. Any council person could introduce an amendment and it is obvious that none are willing.
They are hoping to collect a lot of fines...
Finance their corruption at his expense.
Does anyone remember the "Fish Mural" lawsuit out of Clearwater, FL about 15 years ago? ACLU of Florida associate legal director. “The city had no right to stifle the owners’ free speech, and we are very pleased that the court enjoined the city’s unconstitutional conduct.” If it's deemed non-commercial speech, it can't be regulated under a sign ordinance. Have the owner put up a sign with the American flag on it, then have the town council order him to take that down, then watch what happens. Local governments should take care to define the boundary between commercial and non-commercial speech, using distinctions found in case law applicable to the local government.
Call it a museum and be done with it. People coming to a place to see relics from the past... A Museum :). Also. As a last resort, sue the city council for not allowing a grandfather clause. This should at least get a stay (hope my terminology is correct) from a court before any damage is done. Agreed, this does sound personal.
The man just needs to up & move to a town that wants his business' revenue. Let the town wither & become a ghost town (like they seem to want).
NO, he should NOT have to move to avoid the few power hungry, narcissist. Recall and vote them out.
You wouldn't believe how many towns in the Midwest are like this. The goal is to sit around and talk about how things were 40+ years ago... "We used to have a mens clothing store, 2 drug stores, 2 shoe stores, womans clothing store, 2 grocery stores, a dime store, hardware, lumber yard, 5 taverns, a meat locker, 2 banks, 2 dentists, 4 doctors, etc. etc....."
"What have you done to spure growth and development the last 50 years?"
Why, we put in some curb and gutter on some streets!" But we also don't want ANY change.
I've lived this.
@@seththomas9105 . . . I'm struggling to understand your incoherent rant. Can you clarify?
@@RANDOMNATION907 I understood him easily enough. Can't you read? Maybe you should take the time to address your subpar reading comprehension skills. That and your need to bully people...
Amen. ❤❤❤
Leave these good folks and their signs alone!!!
This world needs less government
WOW. “lets keep this nebraska town boring as possible !!!”
Time to recall the council.
Karens and Kommunists.
@@manyhammers5944 You're confusing communism with authoriantism. Not the same.
Someone on the board has maken this 100% personal. This is art for a business, not company advertising. Wish we could learn what was the initial issue between the owners and the town board(members)
I love old vintage signs and other stuff from the 40's through the 70's. As someone else said this place is a museum as well.
One f’ing business in the entire town and they have to f with him! What a bunch of losers.
Ask a bureaucrat whether they want to win in the court of law or the court of public opinion.
Small town government can be some of the most entitled, petty and cruel people on the planet.
The signs look great. What is the rationale for the new law? That the local town officials refuse to answer questions about this tells me they know it's indefensible.
Who would object to the signs especially when they’re the main thing that people come to see?
What a crock of CRAP !
Recall that Council .
The largest of egos with the smallest of power 🙄🤦
Tiny brains with tiny ideas .
If I was on the council, having passed this law, my attitude would certainly be along the lines of _Oops! Unintended Consequesnce! Let's fix this!_ instead of being like a damn HOA. I mean Please! This is *_Art!_* that townspeople _enjoy!!!_
I'm sorry I live over 7 hours away...😒
How incredibly petty of the town council to pick on those signs which are NICE to look at. If they were regular commercial boring signs I could see it but not these vintage signs that nostalgic, and give such a nice feeling and ambience.
In Alaska they made a sign ordnance so now businesses buy an old box van, register it and have a sign painted on it. They then park it by the road in front of their business.
That is a great form of recycle, reuse!
My family came from Nebraska and I always thought people in Nebraska had common sense. Guess that has changed like everything else in my 80 years on earth.
Modern Nitwittery is taking over.
funny thing about PRIVATE PROPERTY, you can put what YOU want up as the Owner; f*ck what a bunch of Karens "feel".
Exactly.
Unfortunately that isn’t the case if you are a business. Pretty much all cities have ordinances that regulate the signage that is allowed to be displayed by a business. There are regulations on how high a sign can be, how close it can be to a road, if it can be lighted or not, what is allowed on the sign, etc. Now if this was someone that had a bunch of signs that were around his shop in his backyard, or by his home, it would be different. And for the most part, these regulations are re a good thing. They keep a business from putting up some large neon sign that will shine into a person’s bedroom, or some gaudy looking sign that takes away from the appeal of the neighborhood. Stuff like that is what these regulations and ordinances are meant for. And remember, you run a business with the permission of the city/country so they have the final word. In this case the village is cutting their own throat by threatening to close or fine the only business that brings in revenue and is pretty stupid. And it doesn’t sound like it is what the majority of the people living there want, it sounds like someone is making this personal. You may not agree with it, but it is legal and the village has the authority to either fine him or revoke his business license. So no, you cannot put up any sign you like if you are a business owner, even if it is on your own property.
@@TheCrazyMoparDude68You are partially right. The regulations you are citing are usually in place in larger towns and cities and also in areas listed as historic so as not to disturb the tone of the town or area. In a small town like this these type of regulations are not usually needed unless as stated earlier someone wants to put up a bright sign that may intrude on another persons property. It seems to me the town council should be happy for what he has done. As he stated in the video it encourages visits to the town and his business that helps raise the tax revenue for the town. Also who knows it may also lead to other classic automotive type of businesses to start up in this town.
There are too many other issues in the world to worry about. Leave this man alone and let him and the rest of the community enjoy these nostalgic signs.
Councilors, why do you import bylaw 'holus-bolus' from other villages without carefully scrutinizing it or is your town lawyer also theirs too and soon you 'do nothings' will be merged into them.
The Council will totally cave over this. Trust me…
Yup just takes a lawyer to send them a letter.
Let's hope so for sanity's sake?
Is the council members that bored ? Well, time to vote them out.
If there's a process for getting an exception or variance, he should follow it. The Board should allow the signs to remain until the exception is either granted or denied. They are not advertising!
Sounds like a case for the Institute for Justice. They’d take the Village to the cleaners financially.
f-ing control freaks
I feel like the world is burning, and this village is worried about vintage signs.
I'm 65, and just sitting remembering all the great road trips with my Mom and grandparents from 40 to 50 years ago.
Guess it's easier to go after this man rather than go after any real criminals!! The council should be ashamed of this behavior!
Just a few miles west, the council could visit Pioneer Village in Minden - that town survives because of a quirky collection of vintage farm equipment, vehicles, dolls, salt and pepper shakers, and whatever else struck the eccentric fancy of Minden's most successful native son. Maybe they'd learn something about how to keep their village living!
Sounds like the Village Board is the one causing trouble.
Since the signs were there before the ordinance they should be grandfathered in
Freedom of speech
He needs to run for Mayor
Our city has a boulevard that has many vintage signs from long gone businesses as a historic monument. This town is being petty and stupid! The local historic society salvaged them and restored them. They are lighted at night and bring back memories of many long gone cherished businesses.
There is a concept known as "grandfathering" if the town adopted these laws after the signs were already in place. A really clever lawyer might be able to argue that the grandfather clause applies to all the zoning in place when he bought the property and that these new zoning rules can only apply after the property changes hands. Who knows. Lawyers can be tricky like that.
I love the signs, what a fabulous collection!!
Does anyone remember spaghetti where house resturant. They were full of vintage signage. It was neat to go in and be seated someplace different each time to see all the antiques. And many memories.
Those people can actually call an emergency re.election in there town they don't need city council approval if 80% of the people want them out that is the right of the people
remember folks, "zoning laws" and "signage laws" are just legal ways that people YOU elected exercise petty tyrant power over YOU. Those signs are not hurting anyone, yet some Karen or Joey wants to be able to be the tyrant and decide what this guy does on HIS property.
Collecting thousands in tax revenue just isn't enough for them.
It now being illegal notwithstanding. They could grandfather this property.
Take your signs and close shop and tell ‘em how do you like me now @itch ! You can bet this has nothing to do with the sign and everything to do with someone wants his property(land) to develop!
Think you "own" your property? Think again
Pure short sightedness on the boards end!!
His signs should be grandfathered in since they existed before the new ordinance was adopted, unless there's specific language in the ordinance stating such.
There are 1.968 million (2022) people who live in all of Nebraska, I really don't think the signs are going to cause any harm to any one of them to leave them up. It just shows how little the village council has to do with their time.
City commissioners might have trouble getting served in Marquette.
Imagine living in such a poor town that getting rid of vintage signs connected to a bar will ruin its economy....
would love to see said ordinance because it sure as hell sounds like a flagrant first amendment violation
It would be very simple for the town council to grant him a waiver and just tell him he can't add any more signs.
Some people are born rule-followers. They just can't think for themselves.
Vintage signage like those should be considered as a form of pop art and protected. Good on this man for collecting and curating those memories of america.
Those cool old signs look like the only thing worth seeing in Marquette.
That town council is cooked and should absolutely be ashamed of themselves. Support from Ohio!
These signs should be declared a historical landmark
Sue them for violating his first amendment rights
Just leave people the hell alone. This is America and that's his own property.
He should sue the individuals in the village for lost revenue because he isn’t going to draw people in when the signs are gone.
The attorney for the town council advised them to not make any comment. They’re knee-deep in this and pretty soon it’s gonna be shoulder deep in a recall election. The Attorney for the town Council should’ve advised the counsel ahead of time you might want to reconsider this.
Sounds like a new town council is needed.
OK..this has to be the dumbest thing I've heard all week.
These signs bring me joy too!
The footage shows they’re carefully displayed and arranged to be attractive, versus some some careless, jumbled mess. I think the town council mentioned here would be foolish, disappointingly consumed by their own “power”, and incredibly short-sighted to pursue the removal of these signs. That would be a sad display of the “worst” side of representative government.
Council, listen to the people you represent and CORRECT your mistake… don’t COMPOUND it!
Technically those signs aren’t signs and only used as decorations. They have nothing in common to the business and just there for the designs.
So technically the signs are allowed!
Sounds like Marquette has officially run out of real problems.
My gosh! It's a "village" with less than 300 people and they are acting like a city with reasonable sign rules. Leave them alone! - Here, a support from Montreal, Canada.
Its sad. So much chaos and madness in this world, and people are worried about vintage signs. People need to grow up and worry about more important issues going on
Make it to a museum.
Ouch-ouch ....the mean old signs are ruining my life. Help Help.
Pure pettiness; typical council busybodies.
We have had a sign ordinance in my town since before I moved here. The primary stipulations are no billboards, and signage must be attached flat to the face of your business.
When I first moved here I didn't notice the difference a sign ordinance makes and just went along living life. But when I left town to a place without a sign ordinance I almost felt nauseas by seeing billboards and signs blocking every view. Driving through it felt like being on a website with too many pop-up ads.
I wonder if their new ordinance permits the signs at lower heights or wall-mounted. It does seem odd for such a small town to worry about the ordinance, but if tourism is a big part of the economy it will pay off to keep that small town vibe.
They sortof did the same thing in another city in my area. The council basically adopted a new code that bans new tobacco and vape shops from opening within 1000ft of schools or daycare facilities but are grandfathering any existing locations. It's more or less to prevent the kids from seeing all the advertisements which is just even more govt censorship. As long that the signs are within the code I don't see how it matters how many he has on his property.
These signs represent great history and nostalgia
“Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right.”
― George Orwell, 1984
I would refuse to take them down and make them take me to court. It's ridiculous that they can "adopt" a neighboring law without townspeople input. And apparently the people don't agree with it.
As someone who uses landmarks and signs driver I’m sad this is happening to him
People in the town council knew. At least those who "suddenly" want the signs down knew. It was targeted at him.
The town council that opposes it is absolutely unhinged. They are in a unremarkable town in a unremarkable state. I gurantee that everybody who drives through the town agreea with that statement, and the only thing that gives the town any class or interest is the antique signs that aren't littering the property they are on, but are actially beautifully displayed. Shame on them.
Vintage sign collecting sounds like a cool hobby.