Technics SL-1200 MK7 vs Reloop RP-8000 MK2 -
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- Опубліковано 4 гру 2024
- 🆕 Both #Technics and #Reloop have launched brand new, next-gen DJ turntables this week on opposite ends of the gear spectrum: one classic and one advanced. In this Tuesday Tips Live, we discuss the features on each and give you our initial thoughts - tune in!
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Turntables is the best way to Dj Time code or vinyl in my opinion. It's more fun and it gives a Dj that nostalgic feeling.
They do have a great feel :)
There is only one real dj.. the turntables dj
At the End of the Day, its all about the DJ themself.
The Technology based DJ will always seek to mix using features based off of Serato/Tractor/Rekordbox etc.
The Hybrid DJ is one who looks to have the flexibility to use VINYL and/or CD's while still using the features of Serato/Tractor/Rekordbox etc.
The Purist DJ is one that sticks to using original formats like Vinyl or CD's.
No way is a bad way! Period. Its choices to personalize how you mix.
Ive been to parties recently where a DJ used 1200's spinning 45's and 12" inch records and turned that party into a crazy frenzy.
Was at a festival where the legend DJ Jazzy Jeff through down his skills using Technics -SL-1200;s and Serato, The party was amazing, and he knew how to make that party jump up.
Been to an EDM party as well and the DJ had a Pioneer controller and tore up the crowd.
Anyway you look at it, the DJ knows how to work with the tools they have, there is no bad way of executing the job.
Agreed completely, it's not about the gear it's about the music :)
Unfortunately this mature view is difficult for some to swallow because now they'd need to look for a new way to feel superior to others :P
My faith is firmly placed in reloop. I've owned a few technics over the years. Now I have reloop rp7000. Never been happier
Nice! Glad to hear it :)
Is Reloop RP-7000 mk2 good for a home use? What about Reloop TURN5? Is it any better in a sound quality?
If you are serious about DJing from home for fun then get a pair of 7000 MK2s. If you want DVS abilities then get the Reloop 8000s. But strictly vinyl the 7000 MK2 are the best turntables in years.
@@Howard.Stern. What do the 8000s do that make them better for DVS?
I'm keeping my technics SL'S and waiting for phase to come then use a rane 72 mixer job done, never ditching my vinyl.
Soooooo glad they didn’t overhaul the 1200. I’ll get a midi controller if I want glowing buttons everywhere. Can we get a Reloop 7000 with a straight tone arm???
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I am guessing www.djhenraycustoms.com would make a set of straight customs RP-7000s if you wanted to spend the $, you might have to supply him with the Reloops though, he seems very Technics loyal but swaps out straights on Technics and I am guessing could do something similar on a clone.
You don't need a custom Job tonearm are pretty standard. Just literally swap the S tube for a straight tonearm Tube
I bought my first set of Technics SL-1210's back in 1993 and after 20 years i switched to the Reloop's. I don't know about the pitch fader on the MK7 Technics but the pitch fader on the Reloop RP-8000 glides so smoothly while feeling heavy at the same time. The pitch fader on the Technics SL MK2 & M5G feels clunky and notchy in comparison.
I've had all the above decks from new, this is how they are from the factory.
Reloop pitch fader floats like it's on ice - Technics pitch fader grinds like it's on grit! I just wished the platter on the Reloop RP-8000 was counter sunk like a SL (and all the other reloops in there lineup) instead on spinning above the deck face plate.
The Reloop does what both of those do in one unit, so i vote reloop. Technic only plays vinyl and Rane is only a controller, but Reloop is both.
"This is the Technics 1200, the original 1200" ....whilst showing an SL-1210 MKII. C'mon :D
Lol yeah fair point :)
Technic’s is an ancient instrument
In fairness the 1200 and 1210 were both just known as 1200's. :p Also blame Technics for this stupid thing they are doing where the 1200 and 1210 are now both black, one is for NA market and other is for European market.
I went with rane 72 and 12. I owned the reloop RP 8000mk1. That was always my favorite even over technics. The midi buttons are very useful because you can have them set for cue points and if your mixer also has performance pads, you can have that set to stems or sampler. Whatever you like. I think I’m going to get another pair of reloop as well because I miss playing my records.
Thanks for sharing!
My 1200s are older than me and still work perfectly its hard to come up with a reason to buy a new one which i guess is a gift and a curse of the 1200s
Definitely, almost shot themselves in the foot with how long they last! Difficult to sell anyone a new one :)
Good point I got three and 2 of them are older then me...and were bought used! I guess my only incentive to getting the MK7 would be getting to buy them brand new to unbox
@@Steadyawake That is literally the only reason I want a new pair, its not because I need them which is crazy when you think about it
@@DJKeo Yeah cuz we ain't materialistic...but we love music and the world of turntablism
I'm excited about the Reloop it's like Vestax being Re born.....
Yeah can't wait to get our hands on it :)
so, it may re-die
I love my rp8000!! ( first gen) the mk2 looks cool! The reloop surpasses the technique in everyway.
Strong words! We're very excited to try out the new Reloop's :)
Great Phil! First to mention the new Reloop I think :) . I haven't touched my vinyl collection in 24 years, when I converted to CD. A few years ago I sold my last Technics 1210, used once in 21 years, thinking such a piece should better be used. Now, I've been asked if I can play vinyl again. Retro style, I choose whatever music I have, but it's gotta be real vinyl... not time code. My first response was absolutely NO!... part because my schedule is pretty full 4-6 months ahead, and of course, it's a quarter of a century since I played vinyl. Then I learned that they are prepared to pay more for this than they do for regular digital DJ's, and I also got that nostalgia feeling that this could be rather fun, once in a while. To me, neither of these two new turntables is the most interesting, but rather the Reloop RP-7000Mk2 that came out half a year ago. To start playing vinyl again, if only limited and for fun, I'd need something close to my Technics 1210's I used to have and that doesn't blow my wallet... at most this will be once a month for a while unless more requests are coming in, which I doubt, but it's sure fun that old trades still matter in this business :) .
Sounds like a fun gig, even better if it pays well! Yeah not everyone needs all the gadgetry, a simple turntable with good torque is more than enough :)
Honestly the reloop 7000 mk1 can be picked up for around £5/600 a pair. I've always mixed on technics they're just as good if not better. Solid as well.
Hoping to enjoy my Technics SL1210 MK7 pair that i have just ordered, its always nice to read comments from experienced people... Thanks for the video 😊
No problem, hope you like them!
Digital DJ Tips i did received them today so i will test them when get home so in love with them
Technics knew that the moment they start adding buttons for digital effects and what not on the SL-1200, the turntable would stop to be the legend that it is. The 1200 is a classic because it is timeless and timely. It is something you can own for a lifetime. Can you say that about the Reloop? It will become obsolete in no time, given how fast digital progresses. That's one reason I'm not a fan of, say for example, headphone amps with built-in DAC. In my opinion, if you want some digital, get a separate console you'll replace anyway in a few years. As to the pricing, what is 1200 dollars for a product that lasts and commands high resale value? If you check, you'll see how much price a used MK2 commands. As of writing, there's even a first gen MK2 on that auction site with an asking price of 1250 dollars. Just my 2 cents.
I bought a pair of 1200MK2's in 1993 for $750. I still have them now and play them everyday. I have never had a problem or had them serviced and they still look and play like new.
Great comment, these Technics turntables are the best in the world without a doubt...😀@@djbhe
I was at 2019 CES Show and saw the 1200/1210 Mk7 is no different from 1200/1210 Mk2-Mk5g,however at the rear of the 1200/1210/mk7 has replaceable RCA cords & AC cords and has red LEDs and it is charcoal black. The price range from USD$999 to $1599 each.
Thanks for the update Fred!
$1200*
It is my understanding that the Technics MK 7 has a lot of improvements under the hood etc. Motor is totally upgraded and different than all previous SL1200's I hear plus the plinth fabrication has been improved to reduce resonance. That's at least two things I have heard.
Seems plausible. Even my Reloops improved from the RP-8000 to the RP-8000s with the straight arm variant.
Component sourcing didn't get harder after the world wide web, quality control, user feedback and such have improved too. It only makes sense that we should get better product available on the market.
I am more suspicious of vendors who offer higher prices with less features, and some DJ vendors are guilty of that (e.g. look at the price of a Rane Empath circa 2004 contrasted with a Rane 72 circa now, and the Empath was a three channel mixer, MPCs aren't new, but building that feature set into a mixer was questionable with the TTM57SL, that it took off to the degree that it did is unsettling to me at least. I think the 57SL was great for its time and has aged better than mixers I have bought more recently, but Rane? They haven't aged well. Technics? Still innovating!)
While I love vinyl and the technics, they would be for home. Playing out, I would go for a cdj/controller type option.
lmao
£800 would be okay for new SL1210, any more i might as well get the audiophile version
Yeah definitely towards the top of what I'd pay for a single turntable!
@Tech Soul MSP for The Technics is 1200 American BUT it's made in Malaysia. Has a new aluminum carbon fiber tonearm and no knock motor. Specs are not that great . The Reloop has better specs but they are a Hanpin so quality control will be iffy as usual. I think Technics is aiming at both the DJ market and the mid range hi Fi market with its new release.
They are 799 now everywhere
Reloop knocked it out of the park, I never wanted to spend damn near 2 grand on a mixer, now I don't have to, going to grab two Reloop 8000 MK2's and a cheap priced good mixer like that newer Pioneer DJSM3, and a pair of powered studio monitors for a sick bedroom setup, and it will be good enough for shows as well, I don't need a feature packed mixer with a Turntable like that, way to go Reloop, on the other hand the Technics FANBOYS will be happy to spend $2400 on a pair of TT's.....lol....For that price I will have an entire setup, and it will be DOPE AF!
Reloop are doing an awesome job :)
Cool video But I'm torn Phill!???🤔
I had to sell my 1210s I had for 25 years!!??
But I'm thinking of getting some Technics again from Juno for £799 each🤔😉👍👊👊
Your call, I don't like the new Technics personally.
My $$$ is going to the reloop. Techniques had a big chance to step up to the plate. Once again they struck out.
The Reloop TT's do look like a lot of fun :)
Heard the New MK7’s have the same feel and quality as the PLX-1000’s but not the same solid quality as the original MK2’s. Would love to see your review and take from the NAMM show :)
We're on it 😎
Technics is like an old champ that retired because nobody could mess with it at its reign...it’s come back with the same combinations against gear that does what the technics can and more...now, price ?
Think the Technics are going for around US$1200 each
After playing with Technics at my regular DJ studio and my Reloop RP7000mk2 at home I can say that I prefer the Reloop. It responds much nicer and for some reason stays locked in better than the technics. I had a 3 hour session with 2 Technics and had to babysit the tracks so much. The lower torque on the Technics is especially annoying when you're used to the Reloop motor.
Yes that’s true re torque
New Technics looks cool but was hoping for a straight arm design.
If you've ever seen a straight arm SL-1200, and they do exist, they were all after market custom mods.
Similar to a chipped PSX, that sort of improvement isn't offered from the factory. Not from Technics at least. ;)
I wonder what the pitch is like on a new 1200 analogue or digital?
MasterBlaster 81 if you can switch from 8% to 16% it’s definitely digital
Good 2 know. Tnx buddy.
MasterBlaster 81 YW
hello! thanks for the video! a simple question: is the reloop 7000 mk2 the next after the technics 1200 mk2? I'm not talking about buying between them, I'm talking about currently that follows in quality thanks
Most "modern" turntables of this type are made in the same factory in China anyway. For us, yes - we've go for the RP7000 Mk2.
Are these new Technics made totally in house or rebadged & plinthed Hanpin models like every other turntable out there?
In house I believe
The 12.10s were brilliant also
Definitely :)
Phil you're the best
Cheers Alex 😊thanks for watching!
@@digitaldjtips you're most welcome Phil
Do they still sell technics,what's audio technica,and why cdjs
Yes but not catered for DJs (until now) Audio Technica is a brand and CDJs are what you're going to find in the vast majority of clubs around the world, they're the "industry standard"
Will the technics mk7 take any Headshell and cartridge? Cheers
Yes
Thanks man, really thinking of purchasing one !
Would be nice if you use a clip on mic. The walls in your room are not acoustically treated. It’s a bit boomy
Thanks Jo!
Hi Digital have you announce the winners for the 17000 grand of prizes?? 🤔
Next week on the Tuesday Tips Live we will :)
if you never owned a technics its a pleasure ... tha history of the name the original don dadda ....im all in.
now the reloop iz a beast .... just depends on person
Definitely, different strokes and all that :)
awesome Thanks : )
No problem, thanks for watching!
I think the new RP-8000 MK2 is pretty dope. I hope Native Instruments is paying attention to this slice of the market too. I'd love to see them put out some turntables and new Z2 mk2 this year.
I spoke to one of the NI testers at the S4 mk3 launch and he told me a new scratch mixer and X1 kontrol are the next products to be launched.
@@Goggzzzz , that's badass info. thank you for sharing
Very interesting! The Z2 is awesome so a new mixer is definitely welcome :)
@@Goggzzzz was praying when reading that would be something about new S8 or all-in-one.. damn :(
@@KoooomA , agree with you on that too. A new S8, that could possibly be an all-in-one solution, would be fantastic. It would be a game changer actually. I passed on the S4 mk3. It has a lot of pros but lots of cons too. I wouldn't call it a flagship NI controller.
Any News on a Numark Ns74 with touch screens dashboard and 2 usb Hopefully!
Not that we've heard about :)
Alguns dos DJs esqueceram que tudo começou nessa plataforma do toca discos....sempre será ícone dos DJs..technics o autêntico.genuino...brasil
Heellp phil Where is the sync button. 😅
🤣
where is the sound comparison?
Can you use the reloop like the rane 12 or does it need a stylus and digital vinyl?
Stylus and Digital we'd assume :)
Does the reloop work without software?
Yes the original did so no reason this one wouldn't :)
You forgot to mention that the Technics has a cup holder (cartridge holder). As I understand it the MSRP for the Technics will be $1200 US. It features new motor, plinth, reverse, platter, and more. I'm not in the market for one, since purchasing a GR back in July to satisfy my home audio needs, not DJ.
Yep US$1200 is confirmed :)
Do you know what the difference is between the GR and the MK7?
Good video, nice one!
Thanks for watching!
what about a SL-1200 media player by Technics ? Like Rane 12 but not set up in battle side. With a screen and a selecter knob instead of the tone arm and USB slot ☺️
You should work for them! :)
There’s also talk about a Reloop Elite mixer set to be released in March for $1300
Yes looks very similar to an S9, we're looking forward to getting our hands on it :)
I am more excited about the phase dvs that will convert my technics 1210s to play time code without the tone arm.
Technics is clearly the classic Professional DJ Turntable.Technics has tragedy and cult status from the beginnings of the classical DJ Scene of the 1970's,1980's,1990's,etc.,years.
Real DJ's are still playing Vinyl.
Safe the Vinyl! 😀👍🎼
Technis is back,Yes.
Rediscover Music/Technics
Thanks for watching :)
@digitaldjtips I’d love to see a Rane 12, with standalone Serato dj pro, and the reloop controls down at the bottom! Of course, with built in Serato, a screen would be killer and mandatory! *crossing fingers:)
Dream setup there!
Digital DJ Tips I can’t imagine we’re far from something like that. Denon’s players are close, but it’s a shame that their music management is awful.
Sound quality and durability are reasons why Technics SL 1200 MK2 and later models are still very popular and sought after, a decent Technics TT keeps it's value quite well (mine are 20y old and stil running like new!) This reloop willl be outdated (and worthless) in within 3 years I think. If you play vinyl, go for the Technics people, if you get tired of it, it will probably have decent resell value (just my 2 cents)! and they really sound good for dj'ing, punchy, dynamic!
For some 3 years of using something top of the range before updating is enough though (pro DJ's etc) - I imagine these will last a lot longer than that though
@@digitaldjtips True, very valid point, personally 3 years is about the lifespan of Digital stuff (dj controler, soundcard for editing) but my analog equipment needs to last longer, and I don't mind paying more to get the best I can afford at that moment! Hence I would get the Technics! :-) thx for a informative video!
That was fast!
Thanks :)
Technics MK7 for sure will be my choice, the reason is because it will last me literally forever and wont need to upgrade for a very long time. Future proof tried and true piece of hardware. I will be selling my denon vl12 prime, denon fked up with using the cheap gemini tonearm.
The reloops are exciting too, dont get me wrong they are very nice looking decks but honestly i wont be doing too many gigs and these tables seem to cater someone who is constantly on serato. Serato supports almost all midi controller so the pads feel gimmicky to me as i can plug a novation launchpad and have 64 pads to fk with.
Fair points :)
Please invest in a microphone so you can this way eliminate echo in the room ;-)
Thanks for the feedback we use an overhead mic :)
Reloop 700 or good condition technic mk2??
Technics :)
There has been Pioneer vinyl trun table for a few years now called (PLX-500-K) (PLX-500-W) £300 same price for each colour in the UK in black and white, also they have Pioneer (PLX-1000) £599 and they would be cheaper then the new technics MK7 at £999 and Reloop £699. Ohh the Pioneer (PLX-1000) Looksthe same as the technics MK7. If you read this far keep reading this..👌🏾 Keep in mind who thinking of buying vinyl trun tables there are two types of things you have to know!!
Belt drive are weeker than Direct Drive which means Direct Drivers are best but more expensive to buy also worth it in the long run!!
We weren't a huge fan of the Pioneer turntables though to be fair, we'll review the new Technics as soon as we can :)
I have a very old plx
It is amateur to say that the new Technics 1200 is the same as the old ones. It is a completely retooled and designed turntable.
It's hardly setting the world alight with it's innovation is the point we're making, even the average DJ won't care very much about the improvements they've made especially if they've already got a 1200 or two from 20 years ago in a cupboard
It has the same signal to noise ratio, pretty much the same torque the same wow and flutter does exactly the same thing. Call it built from the ground up if you like but it's the same thing with a different paint job.
Reloop rp7000 has less wow and flutter, more torque adjustable down to the same torque as the technics less signal to noise ratio costs less and the reloop mk2s are yet improved more.
Sounds a bit biased towards reloop. You also didn't talk at all about the difference in their motors or their builds which is what I am highly interested in considering that would be ideally why you'd pay more for the Technics and having the classic. I know Reloop has amazing features, wanted you to also talk about what makes Technics amazing.
The MK7's aren't amazing unfortunately, the mk2's we have in the cupboard are much better
Digital DJ Tips thank you for the quick reply. I suppose the issue I’m having is I love mk2’s but I don’t have a pair anymore. I’d love something new, a new pair or 1200’s. When I started spinning around 2009 on Technics, even then I never had a new model. Like new sure. But I’m having trouble deciding on the Reloops vs mk7. After all the reviews and research the mk7 surely is a bit of a let down when compared to the durability of the mk2 or other technics models. Here’s the details for me, I love mk2’s and I could always tell and love the difference in the motor quality vs something like say Stantons turntables. I couldn’t find the quality I desired for scratching and even mixing in anything but Technics. They say that most other turntables are Handpin manufactured, that means if I were let down by Stanton and others I might be let down by the Reloops. I’d love the features offered by the Reloops turntables but not at the cost of the way the platter is moving and feeling. I’d rather have something more like a mk2 than a handpin with features. In that case, would you recommend the mk7? I really love Vinyl, the way it feels for performance. I will be on anDVS system and not really playing vinyl at shows often if at all. I’d get a sturdier mk2 for that. I feel the features offered by the Reloops can be added either with a quality dj mixer with pads, or the dice add on, which I personally love. Would love some feedback on this, thank you!
You should try them! What is it you found so amazing about the Mk2 motors? Maybe you were just used to the torque (newer turntables actually have higher torque - in theory better, although it does feel different).
For me, I think the Mk7s are just another "choice" among many now, and a somewhat overpriced one at that. Ultimately, get some refurbed Mk2s if your heart is telling you that - my go-to turntables are, and probably always will be, Technics 1210 Mk2s. Not because they are best - but why change what you've always used if it still works perfectly?
Digital DJ Tips thanks for the reply again! Well yeah I suppose if this is true, newer turntables have higher torque and are in theory better than mk2’s, are they still Handpin made? What’s the difference between a Handpin made turntable and say a Technics? I’ve already settled on a Technics and made an order haha I couldn’t wait. I guess I just love Technics, and feel that I could get the same that Reloop has with novation dice. I also saw a review where the reviewer said the Reloop table went in and out of sync, basically the pitch wasn’t that great and essentially not great for mixing DJs. I just wouldn’t want to sit tweaking the pitch endlessly as I like to mix tracks for extended periods. All that being said, I’d love to test out s higher torque model and see how it feels! What would you recommend?
You can skip first 17 minutes
Just bought the mk7 it has an onboard computer it’s fucking mint 😝
They have the earth lead !
Glad you're enjoying them Robert.
Digital DJ Tips Thanks man love your channel ✌️
Thanks for your support!
Qual o preço de um toca discos Mk7 ?
US$999
P.s. isn’t that a 1210?
Yes, good spot - the difference is very minor :)
The only difference between 1200 and 1210 is the color
Sweet
Thanks for watching
Everyone keeps assuming that the build quality is going to be the same as the Mk1 and Mk2. I put it to all that this will not be the case. The likelihood of the internal parts not being made in China from Hanpin or some other major vendor of the chips needed to build a modern turntable is slim. Heck the only reason they'd not use Hanpin is because of the backlash that would ensue.
The price issue has less to do then with anything other than them trying to charge for nostalgia. In no way this turntable could be 'better' than any of the current OEMs and even if it is could we honestly say that it's a couple hundred dollars better? I have 3 pairs of Mk2 1200s home, and won't part with them, but my next turntable will be a used LP1240 or ST150 or Reloop 7000. If I *had* to buy new I'd buy the Statnton 150 Mk2, Reloop 7000 Mk1 or for features, the 8000Mk2...
My two cents.
We'll know when we get our hands on it, let's hope the quality is there (and we'd bet it is)
The mk7 does have a ground wire.
People don't forget something the price of the technics turntable 1200 was 500 pounds until discontinued and all the other companies put in the market a lot of turntables which are wonderful at a lot different types and prices and the Djs working without problems always the Technics cost 500 hundred pounds and now they asking 1230 pounds wonderful turntables for have the price Audio Technica 1240 for 450 to 500 pounds pioneer plx 1000 about 500 pounds Reloop 7000 model Stanton Denon a lot of Great turntables
The Technics SL-1210 MK7 is selling for £799 not £1230 there is this thing called inflation and when you back calculate it the price of £799 is actually a lot cheaper than it would have been in the mid 90's when the DJ scene was (arguably) at it's peek and it was selling for £500. I've never got my hands on a Reloop so I cant comment but the Audio Technica 1240 and pioneer plx 1000 are not a patch on even a 30 year old SL-1200, and don't get me started on the plastic fantastic Stanton TT's. When you factor in that the Technics will probably out live it's owner and the parts/spares will be easily available for decades the extra £300 in today's money is well worth it.
I thought Technics would of priced them to compete with with the Pioneer, Denon & Reloop. They do nothing new I own the Denon VL12 and it was a nice upgrade from my 1210 mk2. Denon spent a lot of time designing a new platter for the VL12 would of like to see some innovation like that from Technics. I would consider the Reloop deck as the 7000 mk2 was my next choice after the denon. Technics are living off a reputation that is well earned its like the CDJ 2000 vs the SC5000 prime the prime is half the cost but everyone still goes for the CDJ even though the SC5000 offers more features for less money.
We're big fans of the SC5000, you're right branding is a huge part of it :)
I think it's time to release the next pioneer plx mk2 tables
Reloop is the new vestax!
A few people saying that!
Does the RP-8000 play real vinyl records or not? I don't have time to watch a 20 minute video
All turntables play vinyl.
@@digitaldjtips thank you. I'm having trouble setting up my turntable at home. I have serato dj pro and I have the mixer connected to the software but I'm having trouble getting the turntables to work. Is there anywhere where I can get assistance? I'm using USB cables to connect the turntable to the mixer.
The reloops are cheaper and have more features you have nothing to lose and everything to gain by buying a pair
True!
* “yeah, I play vinyl”
* the only benefit of playing vinyl....
Lol :)
Hahahaha
Reloop
They look great :)
4:28 lol
Not a huge difference visually :) haha
nice deck but not exactly a game changer.A second hand 1210 will do more or less the same job and will probably be cheaper.
Yes very true :)
The Reloop seems really interesting, but I'm an old school type of dj and those Technics are looking mighty beautiful... but the price isn't lol, especially since i just purchased Traktor Kontrol MK3.
I've started the past couple of years and I've been lucky enough to inherit my father's MK II's. I'm looking to make the slight upgrade but if the price is too high, im perfectly fine with these heirlooms that have been bestowed upon me
You can't go far wrong with a pair of MKII's :)
I wouldn't swap my Reloop RP8000's for the Technics Mk7's
Nice one, glad you're happy with the Reloop's :)
Technics all day long ! not sure about later models like the GR or Mk7 , do not like digital pitches when spinning real vinyl , I even sold my Technics SL1210 Mk5's because i thought my Technics SL1200 or 1210 mk2 Originals felt better to mix on !! i still have not come across a turntable today that has felt like original mk2 analog pitch direct drive qualtz
Nice one, you'll have to give these new ones a spin see what you think :)
price is nothing if you are happy. i will buy it. im rich
There's something about those illuminated multicoloured buttons that just make it look stuff crap. I'll take the Technics over the Reloops.
Fair enough :)
Hopefully, pioneer has something coming soon.
Definitely, looking forward to it :)
NO MATTER WHAT....you can't beat...TIMLESS..TECH..AND THATS WHAT counts
Strong words :)
@@digitaldjtips No they are not. It was vacuous.
if Technics is going to innovate, they can come out with a new series, but the s1200 range should always just have minimal innovation, like the original beetle
A new series would be cool :)
In my opinión, the new 1200 is a deception. This comparison was natural and Reloop RP-8000 MK2 and it show us the real update for turntables. I expected to see more and a really new Technics SL 1200.. Renoved and do the innovative but I sow the same 1200 with a pretty paint. Not else. I´m sorry.
Yep a lot of people seem to feel the way you do about the new Technics :)
The following questions are... Is the Reloop products really better than Technics? Is the end of Technics Turntable dinasty? Does we have a new turntable leader? Is the creativity and innovations over inside Panasonics?
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Live is a lot of fun but easy to go wrong! lol
I love Technics I own 3 of them BUT my opinion is Technics should’ve built a turntable similar like the Rane without the tone arm. AGAIN they dropped the ball. TECHNICS as we all know it they are the KING OF TURNTABLES. SO why they just came up with a modern one with the same power and quality as the old ones that will appeal to the younger generation djs. I was hoping for this then Rane came out with their own and I was impress but the price for me too high. That’s my opinion.
Technics have been building turntables without tonearms for longer than Rane existed as a company. Rane is dead, owned by inMusic now.
Look into the SP-10 as a primer, 1970, direct drive, tonearm sold separately.
An SP-10, even from 1970 and a tonearm, will still cost you more than a Rane Twelve.
You want a controller apparently, not a vinyl playback device. They are not the same thing.
I doubt you could even afford a Technics SP-10R. Geeze they must sound amazing, but I think that might be lost on you no matter how many you own.
No need for personal attacks, Rane is hardly dead the new 12's and mixer have been very well received even if they are owned by in Music
@@digitaldjtips Rane, the brand lives on. Rane, the company staffed by engineers who made things like the MP2015 and Empath? I don't know about that and having been through enough corporate acquisitions and witnessed a lot of other companies endure innovator fallout, I don't see anything coming out of Rane since the acquisition that made me interested in their offerings.
The turntables without tonearms are hardly new, but the Rane Twelve isn't aspiring to be paired with an audiophile tonearm though, I didn't intend for that phrasing to be read as a personal attack, but to me, a Rane Twelve is just a controller, and an extremely expensive one without much programmability to make it even slightly worth the price for me at least. I couldn't care less if the market made more Twelve like devices, I don't own any turntables without tonearms either, but they certainly exist. Nelson's opinion didn't really seem to acknowledge the reality of Technics larger product range.
Technics have been very clever about this IMO, lets face it the real reason they re-entered the the turntable/HiFi market has nothing to do with DJ's and everything to do with the vinyl revival, for every pair of these purchased by a DJ they will sell 10 to hipsters so they can "ironically" listen to their granddads Perry Como records and another 20 will go to the wannabe audiophiles who can't afford one of the SL-1200G series. If they added all the stuff Reloop did it would only appeal to DJ's and they would lose 75% of their sales.
Hmmm. Cynical, but hard to argue against.
1000 bucks? Not for regular people
I heard the feet on the new technics suck it has better speed better torque but it's the same turntable really disappointing to hear I rather invest in the rane turntables and for the price of one technics you can get a pair of rane's
The Rane 12's won't play real vinyl though, depends how much of an issue that is for you :)
@@digitaldjtips yea I know I'm perfectly fine with that I just couldnt see myself buying the new version of the technics that's exactly like the original ones it makes no sense to me
Mk7 1210, digital pitch over analogue on the Mk2, +- upto 16%, 33,45,78, reverse, brand new motor design thats even more accurate, increased torque to 1.8KG over 1.5KG on the mk2 (same as mk5 i believe)
If you are going to do a lame first look you may as well have said it looks the same so it is the same and be done with it, the specs on the Mk7 are very different to the mk2. Also take into account the SL's have the best sound deadening and anti vibration properties, tested against decks such as the pioneer etc the old SL's kill them, hence most clubs are going to look at the Mk7 with raised eyebrows im sure. Yep its just a turntable though, no midi integration, if you want that add a controller at the side of it IMO.
Not really an "official first look", as we don't have them in front of us here. We'll be doing a more thorough review asap :)
800 and no cartridge? yeah right
Most pricier turntables are not supplied with cartridges, the thinking being you can choose the cartridge that works best for you.
I'm a huge Technics fan, and I realy love reloop. But both tables disappoint in a way.
What do you wish they did differently? :)
The Reloop RP8000 turntable/controller hybride isn't new at all. It is a fun bedroom DJ toy, but the Technics is a real heavy duty clubbers tool.
The new Technics is very similar to the MK5 from 15 years ago, but it has a better and more accurate motor, completely redesigned, you forgot to mention that.
"It is a fun bedroom DJ toy" - Says who?
@@digitaldjtips Me. I have had the RP8000's for a while some years ago. But I'm not really into DJing anymore, so I sold them. I still have a Reloop Blackfire with a pair of Stanton ST150's though.
Many would disagree :)
@@digitaldjtips yeah perhaps; I mainly bought them because they are a compact solution. Space limitation is often an issue with bedroom DJing.
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Releasing a turntable now is like asking people to ride a horse to the supermarket when everyone drives a car.
A tonearm and needle are irrelevant in today’s market. Yes there is a small vinyl resurgence but the majority of the world isn’t even buying mp3s any more we are streaming them.
Fair point, the choice to use what you like is great though :)
Laziness creates boredom. Is it no wonder so many people feel so lost these days. Its because we don’t put heart and soul into things anymore. The world we live in is all about mass produce, with no heart or soul, just for profit.
This could be why people actually want to go back to the old days and start spinning vinyl again. Feeling like you’re achieving something but working for it instead of having everything at your peril. Besides, if the “ digital “ world crashes, everyone who stores their music in the cloud etc, is never guaranteed of their music really being safe. You imagine if the whole system went down ( like it did the other month with facebook etc ) the people who keep their vinyl records are laughing then.
Reloop is a Hanpin built deck, look under the hood and it wont compare in quality components, motor, power supply, to the technics. The technics is for true vinyl DJs, while the Reloop is for time code vinyl DJs as such in my opinion you cant compare them.
The new Technics is not made in Japan like all the others though, we suspect corners have been cut.
Honestly? They broke it. If they'd just updated the Mk2-5 (which Mk7 suggests) all would be well. This is a different turntable though - wait till you see/feel it.
Feels like technics is coming in way too little, way too late. Those things needed the "new" upgrades like 20 years ago. Personally, feels like they're going after the "I only play vinyl" crowd. Which is fine, but seems to vastly limit your ability to do much more than play special vinyl only nights which seem to mostly be filled with other vinyl only djs critiquing your every move (I'm sure a great way to improve your skills if everyone is supportive and not just trash talking).
I doubt it's gonna make a huge splash to release a 50 year old turntable. Guess we'll see, hopefully it was a good move for them.
The potential of the reloop seems much better. Doubt I'd buy them, but would be awesome to see continued innovation in turntable size controllers. Every innovation in the digital world seems to be met with interesting creativity from controllerist/turntablist groups, so even if I never do that, would love to see the craziness from the community who does
Gee whiz, just get to the bloody point.
This is a recording of a livestream, Marc - it's how they roll :) Our pre-recorded videos are much more concise.
The Technics are a joke at that price..but they will sell like hot cakes because of nostalgia and old skool mentality. On a plus side they will last forever!! As for the ufo looking thing...no comment.
A better price than some of their recent offerings though lol :)