Defining the DARK Triad
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Defining the DARK Triad
Dr. Jordan B. Peterson is a clinical psychologist, the author of several best-selling books, among them "12 Rules for Life: An Antidote to Chaos," and "Beyond Order: 12 More Rules for Life," and the host of "The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast." www.jordanbpeterson.com
This clip was taken from the JRE episode #1933 w/Dr. Jordan B. Peterson.
Host: Joe Rogan @joerogan
Producer: Jamie Vernon @jamievernon
Guest: Dr. Jordan B. Peterson
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4:21 "people who do a lot of anonymous shitposting are characterized by domination of those 4 traits." Damn. Good insights
U sure about that 🤨
@@masterpieces2218yes that person is sure
@@guiandre9347 but r u sure about that 🧐🧐🧐
I could listen to these to talk every day. It is relaxing and I learn something. Much love to them
Dr. Peterson studies and has studied the Nazi mindsets. He continues to help us understand, by explaining how it occurs. He luckily is not an “unhealthy hero” or he would be enslaving others with it. The fact he has prospered financially, was / is a byproduct. His initial and continued engagement in such, has been a choice, regardless of the cost, possibility his own health, to lend understanding.. just as Rogan. No coincidence that they “work” together. Dynamic Duo indeed. Love seeing these brothers together.
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Americans are worse than Those you speak of 😂 ironically
I'd heard Dr. Peterson talk about the big five personality traits ten or so times. I found an (utterly unscientific, I know) assessment online. Very informative.
I love that Jordan Peterson keeps up on the urban dictionary.
Ppl dont realize you can be a conscious sadist or an unconscious sadist. If a person is rather shallow intellectually, so rarely applies empathy or foresight towards others... they can easily be consistently engaging in LULZ (LOLz) culture without even being conscious that their behavior is that of a sadistic individual. The fact that it is online adds another component of detachment to the equation.
Ok sadist 🙄
Thanks, Doc. Can't wait to read more of your works.
For all the kindness, gentle, humble, honor stuff we talk.......the machievellian triad psychopathy pays off in this world. They climb to the top with power, success, finance, and women.
Or more often, die trying
Right. They rule the world.
@@wearereligion2489 Someone has todo it. Although they rule many aspects of the material world there are higher realms they cannot enter because there dark and hedonistic nature rules, numbs and limits them
@@doctorlego111 and they are? Quantify them with evidence of some kind. Otherwise it's simply something we hope to be true.
@@doctorlego111 I'd like to believe that, but those explanations always came from me because I was/am jealous of what they had yet I act too timid to acquire what they have, so I demonize those that have what I want.
My life has been nearly ruined due to an ex who defines the dark triad. It's downright scary to stand up against her. Every time I did I paid for it
Damn what did she do?
She's probably just resentful you didn't beat her ass
Tell us more details
@@lopsidedgap what do you want to know? It's a long story and hard to explain some of it in text without it being a book. Took my daughter on lies, she works in the courthouse and family has money so I had to sell my house for a small profit to afford a lawyer. Lawyer didn't help much... just milked me for every last dollar I had. Ex lies ALOT regarding who I am and what I do. It's as if the things she's guilty of doing and saying was flipped around and she said I did and said those things. She hit me a couple times, once in the face (she was bigger than me) said I neglected my daughter, etc. I had a great relationship with my kids and never laid a hand on her or them. She got a restraining order against me saying I harassed her yet I haven't even seen, texted, called her in almost 3 years now... somehow keeps getting it renewed. I pay $1800 a month in support and earn sub $60k a year... which has caused me to sell off and lose everything I had worked so hard for. It just feels hopeless that's a rough summary but the details are just so twisted and it's hard to make sense of what she is actually doing and/or had done and said. She has a lengthy criminal history or violence and forgery, felonies etc. my record is clean. She tried to file DV charges against me for my throwing my cell phone at a door one night... more legal nonsense and money. Case was dropped. I don't know I miss my kids and have nothing to even attempt getting a lawyer
@@bonkerzisgood spoiler, his testicles are missing
Jordan Peterson has so much valuable / implementable knowledge which comes in terms of scientific facts/ data/ theory but leads to (or at least can) an increase of wisdom to the individual. Or even better he is pointing out sprecific patterns so you know where to look, see by yourself and build your OWN opinion on certain conjuncture in your life.
But he is a full human being not just a fact spiting robot.
So Science will be what it should be - the slave not the master.
The only problem is he is strongly biased. Even when his description perfectly describes Donald Trump.
@@jimgodofbiscuits Well, it's not his best interest to assess a political figure by their personality traits but rather what they have on the tabel and in their store as long as it cater for the greator good, just the overarching political trajectory if you will
@@mike_theskinny8646 He is pro maga.
He just explained 4chan in under 8 minutes 😂😂
Just because of these videos we have envious weak men using mental health issues to harm humans and when they figure out the consequences of their actions they cry am mentally ill
That jacket gives some real Sheogorath vibes. I like it.
Is there an end to how smart is this man? Unbelievable
no, and yes to comment and question.
he aint that smart my guy
@@dripstein6130 definitely smarter than u
Bill C-11 forced be Dark Triad justin turdeau will try.
...and his ability to communicate it, brilliant. Also, Joe's creative interviewing skills and interest in the topic. It's a magical combination.
Always speaking With no script….explains what he says….like he has a photographic memory of EVERYTHING HE EVER READ…..about every single thing is important to ponder, 99.99999 percent correct. And the confidence to speak to a huge audience with so many of their OWN opinions that you can throw a rock and hit any subject he can debunk or agree. And he doesn’t care which. Factual almost to a fault.
I know I would never want to be in a conversation with him…..i would rather just listen. I pick everything that I need to hear at that particular time. THEN GO BACK and find things I didn’t think about in the first lecture. Which is a great thing to do with ANY lecture you stumble upon. He fascinates me
stop with the limiting beliefs. he can do it. why not you
He's on his game!
Jordan is in excellent shape here. I'm so glad to see that!
Who are you? His personal trainer?
he is fresh off a benzo bender but w/e you think is right, broski
He’s a pure STUD
@@nomad583he was unknowingly becoming addicted to benzo’s because he was prescribed. He got help, now he’s stronger because of it. Dr. Peterson is a GOD SEND to young men.
This is a very fascinating approach on looking at various types of social activity and motives root causes and what seems like trying search for valid perspective/s pertaining
To social climate conflicts with in a given society and technological variants involved in social interaction
Seems like a metaphysics topic but I know all to well that that terminology often when a topic comes up that deals in cause identity being knowing time and spam that will likely deal in so many different perspectives when talked about by two or more you might at well look at the topic in question like it was written before a broken mirror put together to serve as a infinity mirror
The vibe I get is that technology is always going to benefit the bad type of person more than the good. Scary thought.
Because the good people are receptive to it but the good will live on because evil can only erode.
Society makes excuses for amoral behavior if the person is good looking or rather it is more likely to be overlooked by society and wmn
Also Money - Lots of money
Yes
The default is hostility
Lmao no they dont
That's y I rather change .
Are my eyes going or is his suit red and blue? LOL
It is. One side for heaven one for hell. Their is even a video with joe where he describes the suit
They are indeed two colors 😊
I am very disappointed that the pants are 1 colour
@@Maarsmals mine too......brown.
Canadians are weirdos
He just described Justin Turdeau and the WEF
The back sabbath riff in the song Black Sabbath. Now that’s a dark triad!
That Suit is so clean Dr Peterson is swaggin hard 😂🔥
Yes❗
Thats a great suit jordan
Y'all really don't watch the entire video. JP specifies that just making jokes and trolling online are not of themselves what make you a part of the triad.
It's a combination of several indicators and a history of habit.
So keep trolling but pay attention to how often and how harmful it is
Maaaan, I remember taking a psychology course back in college and studying Sigmund Freud and other psychology books, stuff is definitely interesting. I encourage everyone to take a course or read a book, you will learn alot about the people around you and even yourself and your habits. ✌🏼
Not true. Read books from authors like J.P College just covers conditioning and mental illness. Most therapists are just as miserable as their patients.
Never forget the lessons and sacrifices to help under stand: Niccolò di Bernardo dei Machiavelli
That suit is so cool lmao
Bro hes just spitting facts. You also just have to play an ego shooter (like VALORANT) and you observe all these little rats online who curse and say the most unmoral things which you could not imagine in real life.
bro the spectrum of humanity goes beyond 13-17 year old boys filled with hormones your analogy is stupid BRO
bro fell for the peterson grift lmao how can you not realize this a part of his own machiavellian move to get anonymity banned on twitter, he literally switched from academic lecturing mode to right wing pill popper reactionary spiel midway thru the vid and you feel his whole energy and tone and everything shift
@@susanthejew6351 😂
0:40 Joe Rogan would never use the word “malevolent” (he didn’t know it before this interview!).
Dude I can’t believe he brought back lulz i was around when anonymous ended i remember them writing their goodbye on torrentz and then lulz was just a younger group who decide hey annoy really had all this power they didn’t use lets use t for personal profit from ego to money.
I think this is a real issue.an unintended effect of social media
What happens between men that stops such behaviour, and is not happening on social media, has not been happening much between women for a long time. Anyone that has been a parent of a young female who has gone through the torment of school knows this is true. And IMO it is far more often than males, that females display the classic dark triad patterns of behaviour in their everyday lives. Social media has enabled those males that are bent towards dark triad behaviours, but it has amplified those behaviours in females. Social media is the problem and it aint going away anytime soon.
I had teachers who were honest about that: breaking up a fight between two dudes wasn't that bad, because they're mostly showing off or establishing dominance. Girls fighting are/were out for blood.
“Lulz” is an abbreviation for schadenfreude
I like his suits.
That jacket is amazing❤😮
J Peterson is awesome!!!! I think it's hilarious if he explains something he learned in his field of studies, people on this comment clip gets their feelings hurt and call him a narcissist 🤣🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
they just prove his point by doing that 😂😂
I wonder how many of the CPO administrators who decided to try to cancel JP's license have these traits? I think they need to be analyzed for the public safety.
They are the worker bees. Not even close to the top
he is right but the problem is there is no way to stop it unless we created private online networks where people are vetted as to who has access to them which nobody wants to do because it would decrease profits
We stop it by educating ourselves to be better human beings then instilling those lessons into our offspring. We got this way by being selfish. We end it by being selfless.
How about people's disgusting obsession with other people...? It drives success in psychopaths / narcissists because they're obsessed with themselves...
Host(s) : Parasite(s)
you'd have tro create the demand for that
No, you oust them.
@@greggaldridge Live is full of paradox. Violence is a devilish circle, but everyone who faced bullying at their school understand that most of the times if you don't stand up for your self and defend your self from the bully, your school life would be hell in the rest of the years.
There's people in this world who would targeting you just because you are look weak. Taking your stuff just because they know you wouldn't do anything about it. Hurt you just because they're think it's fun and entertaining for them.
That's why there's fine line between being violent to self defense, with being violent to manipulating, gaslighting, and profiting from people.
Machiavelli normalizing violence and war because that's his reality, the way he grew up, his understanding how to survive, because being part of the nobles and noble society basically just like swimming in a shark tank.
I don't want my future kids living in hellish toxic society like that. Dysfunctional humanity with so many mental health issues. Human can be the worst monster. Evil parasite monsters, who preying their own kind.
It's not about what happened to us in our life. But how do we react to it, and what is our choice about that. Our character, integrity, accountability, self control, self awareness, self respect. Modern society lost the art of how to be a human. Humanize human.
Not preying and antagonizing each other.
However, heroes are born in difficult times. Heroes are not naive selfless martyr, but people who stand up not only defend them self, but also genuinely helping people who can not help them self.
Who learned about machavelianism from tupac
I’m usually quick to spot lying, psychopathy, and sociopathy after 16 years of extensive research in psychology.
So much yes for Jordan Peterson
These people with the dark tetrad are terrifying. Schadenfreude; Your woe is my joy!
Being good looking and wealthy helps a lot. You can get away with almost anything especially if you have a bit of intellect.
Thats a very interesting suit
i just read a whole bunch of wiki pages about dark triad before getting this video as suggestion
I like his joker suit
I'm totally lost on this one 💀
Wow
Got me despising my own shit
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Nowadays it's only a matter of time until getting hacked it looks like
How do I fix having it?
Diggin the Harvey Dent get up tho...
3:36 I’m still working at wrapping my head around the reality that my husband is a narcissist. He fits nearly all the characteristics. Adding this dark triad, or dark empath angle fills in a lot of the missing pieces that weren’t making sense.
I’m a little confused on some of the Machiavellian and extroverted angle. My soon to be ex has always claimed he’s an introvert. And he definitely prefers being home reading the news over anything else, though he also fancies himself a prophet… he can be introspective, but I think with the narcissist side, that only goes as deep as he’s willing to accept that reality, preferring his false self that he’s created. There’s a significant religious aspect that most people don’t seem to address when dealing with narcissism, so I think that adds to my confusion.
Can a dark empath be essentially an introvert? Can he lie to himself enough to think that he’s being self reflective? Meanwhile he’s treating everyone else around him like shit, demanding praise for merely existing, demanding the obedience of a Christian wife, even to the point of manipulating me into allowing him to have a second wife? Claiming it’s God’s will, and even trying to add more wives claiming that’s also God’s will when God hasn’t provided an appropriate living space for her?
I’m so glad I finally left, but unburying myself from two and a half decades of abuse is taking awhile.
I believe he is truly an introvert but the idea of an introvert isn’t very appealing to the outside world. Narcissists are pretty boring people to be honest after the phase is over to win you over. You probably saw a spark in him when around people, that’s the extroversion coming out so he can be appealing. A true extrovert isn’t going to sit around and read the news all the time. That fractured individual, the hurt part on the inside of him is the true introvert. When he was in need of supply or when people are watching, it’s show time.
Dark empath is just a term used for someone that is really good at using a mix of cognitive empathy and what little bit of emotional empathy that he has to gain advantages in a situation and they have good insight into what others are thinking. I think pretty much all dark triad individuals are some type of dark empath, on different levels. Him being introverted doesn’t affect the ability for him to be a dark empath and be good at it. Now for introspection, I believe his ability to observe externally was good, it has to to be dark triad. Anyone with ASPD is NOT good at introspection. He might have thought he was, but you know that difference.
You just wrote a paragraph about how your Husband who you chose to marry has X Y Z wrong with him. Sure you aren't part of the issue?
03:40
Joe who is both a fighter/mma enthusiast and joker/comedian( basically both love on joking at other's expense AND knocking people out):
"I don't think it's sadist"
Oh so this was what he meant by that tweet. Huh. Makes sense.
Yea Robert Hare is bad ass
Bruh has a two face suit on lol I appreciate this unique fellow
Imagine if we had Tesla doing this 👏
I'm pretty sure lolz came from online gaming, I saw it being said mostly in World of Warcraft. But I can see where these things can evolve, that was over a decade ago
like isnt there a difference between trolling and sadism lmao
MAC
Joe obviously quite likes partaking in a few lulz as he instantly got his back up.
Its amazing how contradictory this man is.
He jumps back and forth between whats good and bad.
Like fuck how am i supposed to be?
Decide for yourself who you want to be.
JP speaks more truth than the rest of the media combined ... but why the blue and red suit?
Reminds me of Yung somehow. You know , The Shadow and such.
ME MYSELF AND I = BRATZ
My mother
All my family including me
I already assumed psychopathic and narcissistic pathology has a big part of the political jigsaw.
I didnt know Joe interviewed Harvey Dent.
I did watch this before, he wore a two color suit
How do I know wether I am one of those personality types
Pause, reflect deeply, examine all intentions, look at past deeds, and pray.
Talk with experts, therapist, one of my best friend found out that he is sociopath and it explains a lot of his previous actions, but also helped him to socialize and adapt to other people better, He told me that he does not feel empathy as other people, maybe even not at all, but he is self-aware and from my perspective he seems to be empathetic, at least Im sure that he tries to be the best version of himself and thats beautiful.
You can be whatever you want
the only thing that confused me in this video was that suit lols ¬.¬
Sounds like Saul Goodmen
He would literally be Saul Goodman if he stroke jokes and funny metaphors on and on
Couldn't decide what color suit to wear?
The world is full of A-holes. The trick is... Well, i dont know.
I fucking love that suit
Doesn't Trudeau have the tattoo.
I have met atleast 3 sub clinical psychopaths in my life and a number of narcissists.
The level of negativity and toxicity radiating from these people is virtually indescribable
Are you qualified to assess and diagnose these people or are they simply your own convenient judgements?
@@jakotae Good point. As a famous psychologist and philosopher said: "Everyone that I don't like is a sociopath"
Virtually indescribable = i am too stupid to explain something i do not understand
I’m pretty sure he just described women.
😂😂 ain't no way.
@@Bacinator334 😂
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Guess what the world is not sunshine and rainbows
I used to play online games ever since I was 10 and let's say 10-24yrs old I would troll. It wasn't for crazy shit it would just be to make me and my homies laugh. If someone was freaking out we would stop. So it sucks Jordan saying that were part of this dark triangle. Just because he's upset over the idiots ruining his life for no reason. It sucks that a smart dude like him would say that...
Yeah bro anything you’ve ever done is fine it’s just other people that are the problem
Yeah but you have an advantage about doing that. Trolling in gaming can give you a tactical edge.
Hard to consider our own behaviour.
You mean it sucks that someone as smart as him held a mirror up to you?
Clean your room, you'll be fine.
So realtors basically
why machiavelic?
"Machiavelian" person is somebody who does not care about hurting other people to reach his/her own ambitions.
I agree with Peterson on a lot.
But as far as I can tell, he's saying you have to have built yourself up enough financially as a man in order to be able to withstand being cancelled. So it follows, if you haven't built yourself up financially to the point where you can afford to post publicly online using your actual identity and risk being cancelled, you don't get to post online.
Hmmmm. Just a few problems with this line of thinking. Quite the slippery slope of who gets the right to post online and who would be silenced.
He just has to learn to ignore the shitposting ... You're never going to solve/stop it.
@John Haney I agree with your statement that the average person can't afford to be cancelled. But it doesn't then follow that the average person needs to get himself into a financial position where they can afford to be cancelled prior to having a voice to speak freely.
This is what Peterson is advocating from what I can tell with his position that anyone posting online needs have their identity verified. That is just wrong on so many levels. Who is doing the "verifying"? Just one of many rabbit holes/problems his position leads to.
@@Larry_Sycamore Peterson has really lost the plot since joining DW+. His statements are just not thought through to the level of rigour we expected from him. Too bad.
@@johnhaney8553 cope lol, he could barely keep it informative and objective for half the vid before flipping to old man yells at cloud pill popper mode, he has fallen far from grace
You lil nacrs just hate being called out.
Are there lobsters in the Dark Triad?
Jordan Peterson discovers trolling
Love suit, but tie is meh
Rollo fucking Tomossi
Funny enough, all those aspects can be applied on Ben Shapiro
Dark triad I know a few of them well. Ted Bundy, Gacy, Dahmer
Basically saying that trolls only troll because they know they won't get their asses kicked 😂
kyles dad did it for the lawls
5 guys slaughtered 3 puppies in my schools parking lot on camera. The city didn't care because they were good looking they made excuse after excuse
My ex has a touch of the dark triad methinks
5 detentions . No problem
4 detentions. No problem
Non random sample 🫶
Moon - mon - min- mint- monarch- ministry- green mon ey- green mint- money printed at the mint-
The Bible defines humor in two classes. He He vs Ha Ha. Sarah Abraham’s wife mocked and scoffed when the Angel of God said she (at 90 yrs old) would have a son. She said Ha.! After the child was indeed born God said He He heee.
Why does he have 2 faces suit on?
😂😂😂
INTJ here. Interesting…
Human here. What does that have to do with anything?
i have seen the sadism... i must leave this family.
First thing he says is dark tetrad. The fuck is this title?!?!