not only a film scoring tutorial - ish video , but also a lesson on how to analyze a score . this is the type of video that i subscribed for perfection - keep it up !
Gotta be selfish and say, please keep the film-scoring videos coming! I've been completely engrossed in studying/working on it recently, and it gets real tough to find new content to learn from. Really appreciated this.
Great video! As a non-music reader this was hugely instructive. I was able to follow along with the various instruments as they were being added and gained an insight into the way notes should be written to convey the timing--the way a series of 8th notes would look floating over different quality notes, for example. Makes me want to learn to read. Thanks, Rick!
Great video Rick! Here we see you fully prepared and in full Instructor mode! Thank you, I know many of your viewers can take a lot of valuable info away from this. Even though the student is encouraged to analyze on their own, they also are INSPIRED to do so. Thanks for clearly showing how the modes work in creating the mood. All around, this was a well produced, high quality presentation that is much appreciated. Great work! Thank you for your dedication and commitment to this endeavor. I am happier than ever to be a subscriber!
Rick, you absolutely have to do a video on scoring/arranging for Horn (& Wagner tuben) and horn section. I really liked the video on trumpet section writing but Horn to me is more special because I'm of course a Horn player (and composer), but your approach in compositional teaching is so accessible, I think you'd do it more justice than me......
I do the same thing you do, except from a different perspective. Since you have the training in modes/chords/scales, you imagine the chord b4 you write it. I instead find the notes that work together, not knowing what the chords/modes/scales are. The end result is much the same. I do wish I had your training. What I do have is the ear.
Thanks Rick! What you do is great! And I agree with your teaching/tutorial style, we have to analyze what you created in order to learn from it. And write music that sounds good to us, then we can discuss if it was the eleventh or the flat 9th of any given chord. Music was first created from what it felt pleasant and then theory was written to explain it. Thanks again!
Hey Rick, thanks for all of the info you put out for us all the time. As a fairly new composer, I love watching and learning from you. I'm currently working on some underscores for our church's Easter service and this will help a ton. Thanks again. Andy
This is a great learning video, Rick. And this deceptively simple 3-chord trick produces wonderfully evocative music that would be ideal for great sweeping landscapes, historical or fantasy movies such as Lord of the Rings.
Thanks, Rick. Amazing vid. I don't read, but your explanation was so great that I actually learned/observed some things about scoring music. Very enjoyable and worthwhile. You a treasure to find on UA-cam. Kudos.
This kind of video is exactly what I'm looking for as a musician starting my journey of orchestral composition. Very clear, one-by-one explanations of each instrument. Do you have more videos like this?
Beautiful! I'd love to hear a full orchestral score of this one day. Thanks for the tutorial, the pdf analysis will be very helpful! Shall dig into it over a cup of coffee tomorrow.
I really love the strings you're using. I have a feeling I'll be wasting tonight going through some of my patches and doing some editing. Either that or biting the bullet and going on a spending spree in the Spitfire store. Thanks, Rick. Good stuff as always.
Love your channel and learn a lot. Thanks for keeping the score in concert and limiting yourself to the three chords. I reminds me to practice development and orchestrating using what you've got. My only suggestion would be to use some of more library sample sounds you've recommended in other videos
I'm not a pro by a long shot, but musically interested. Question to anyone who can give an answer: So this basic chord progression was Fm Eb Db That's three chords going downwards in a stepwise motion. The theory books I looked into said that stepwise parallel movements were "forbidden". So, does this rule apply to chords, or just to multiple part voicings, or is it one of those rules that like to be broken?
Thankfully, there are people aware of this abuse, and someday it will stop. Although, in this case, are we not talking about vi V IV without resolution to I ?
To be clear I don't actually dislike music that makes use of the three chords, even heavy use of them. They're abused because they work well, and there's no reason a composer should avoid the use of something that works. It's almost like saying you should avoid the use of IV V I in a major key. You can, as Rick does here, make a good song that uses VI VII and i in creative ways by *not* just using the basic diatonic VI VII and i triads, but mixing it up with variations on those same chords. As for the notational question, I prefer to take an Aeolian perspective when naming chords in minor key music, rather than viewing things through the lens of the parallel or relative major. So in the key of F minor, an F minor chord is i, not vi. An Eb major chord is VII, not V, and not bVII. Other people have different approaches.
Hi Rick! Greetings from Brazil =) I love this video, I'd like to study film Scoring, but unfortunately here in Brazil we don't have nothing like this. Thx for the lesson! Love your videos =)
Ha Rick brother that was beautiful thanks for sharing. Also along time ago I saw Pat Metheny in LA, it was the America Garage album. It was an awesome show. Anyhow thanks 😎
How do you get those nice orchestra sounds? Do you have a notation program that plays back with those sounds, or do you notate it and then record/play it separately in another program? Open to multiple answers/suggesting! I’m just starting to score films and am trying to find a way to get a passable midi-orchestra sound (I know that midi will obviously not sound like a real orchestra, but I’d be happy with a sound like in this video).
Wow. This is basically the way I wrote all of my music when I first got started composing as a teenager, but without all the cool voicing. I abused the hell out of the i-VI-VII progression. I bet if I went back to the way I used to write things, I could crank out ten tracks a day.
So, the main character is traveling back home after a dozen of years on exile. Long shots of trees, lakes, mountains and finally cottage where he sees his home, out of a caravan window. Horses stop and he hesitated for a while from moving out being afraid how his family react. But there is no more family there. They are all dead long ago...
Hi! Rick Thanks for this video. I have a strong interest in film scoring even though it's not so popular in South Africa. I have composed a track consisting of different scenes. Wish someone could evaluate it for me.
I love the video! The strong part was great, but I felt like the piano playing the chords was not that satisfying, and I preferred the arpeggios, but I felt that if you maybe put the piano chords in the bass it woulda sound more full, but otherwise, very, very good!
Hey Rick! Analysing the score right now and was wondering how you're analysing the Db chord in the 3rd measure. I would be tempted to think it's a Gdim(7)/Db (II6). Except for the Ab on the piano and harp, I'd be thinking of this chord otherwise than a Db chord. My question would be, how is it a Db chord in your eyes?
Hi Rick. Great vid as always. When ever I write in Aeolian I always end up around the IV and V like you do here, they just seem to "live" together like a ii V I. This relationship isn't one I've heard or read about though, what are you thoughts? Also, I find it interesting that you did this in Fm aeolian, I think there's a danger when teaching/learning music, of using chords like Db because the impression is that they are inherently more interesting that "white" chords (Am, G and F would obviously have sounded just as awesome) - again, I'd be interested to hear your thoughts.
Wow! Really educational, I'm learning a lot from following this channel, btw how did you record the track? Did you use samples or do you record all instruments or have someone else do the recording?
What the theory behinde chord progressions How we can learn to involve advanced chords into normal regular progression Like how we will add sus or maj7 How we should learn U r video good at deconstructing but if u make videos about theory understanding like chord progressions mailny It would be helpful more My request and view to u r videos
That feel when you realize the theme of Thor: The Dark World literally uses only 1 CHORD PROGRESSION in only 2 DIFFERENT KEYS. Am, Fmaj, Cmaj, Gmaj. Cm, Abmaj, Ebmaj, Bbmaj.
Hi Rick! Earlier in one of thomas newman's score analysis you were using parallel 5ths in the left hand to demonstrate chord changes(I am not too sure). I have really been confused whether or not I should avoid using parallel 5ths in voices or not, you've used them in bar 4 and 5 of this piece. They sound really good though. What are your thoughts?
not only a film scoring tutorial - ish video , but also a lesson on how to analyze a score . this is the type of video that i subscribed for
perfection - keep it up !
Gotta be selfish and say, please keep the film-scoring videos coming! I've been completely engrossed in studying/working on it recently, and it gets real tough to find new content to learn from. Really appreciated this.
Great video! As a non-music reader this was hugely instructive. I was able to follow along with the various instruments as they were being added and gained an insight into the way notes should be written to convey the timing--the way a series of 8th notes would look floating over different quality notes, for example. Makes me want to learn to read.
Thanks, Rick!
Makes think of a rainy mountainside looking over a forested valley feeling relief after Hardtimes/battle...a sombre relief
Fantastic. I tend to over-complicate things so it's refreshing to get back to basics and hear a really good use of limited harmonic material.
Nice, now I have to figure this out on guitar.
Great video Rick! Here we see you fully prepared and in full Instructor mode! Thank you, I know many of your viewers can take a lot of valuable info away from this. Even though the student is encouraged to analyze on their own, they also are INSPIRED to do so. Thanks for clearly showing how the modes work in creating the mood. All around, this was a well produced, high quality presentation that is much appreciated. Great work! Thank you for your dedication and commitment to this endeavor. I am happier than ever to be a subscriber!
This is phenomenal. Super impressed. As a life-long pianist, this was the first time I "got" how orchestral scoring works.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge, I admire what you do. I’m a lawyer and a frustrated musician and your tips really help me. Cheers!
Nicely done Rick!
Exactly the kind of material I need to keep learning! Thanks for sharing your knowledge with us, your humble (and sometimes not so humble) students!
Rick, you absolutely have to do a video on scoring/arranging for Horn (& Wagner tuben) and horn section. I really liked the video on trumpet section writing but Horn to me is more special because I'm of course a Horn player (and composer), but your approach in compositional teaching is so accessible, I think you'd do it more justice than me......
Superb. Sounds amazing, I've heard it a dozen times lastnight and now I keep listening to it.
Gorgeous piece, such a feel for it. I'm telling you, Rick, you are an amazing teacher, hands down. If you're ever in the Big D I'm so there!
Great example!! Thank you. A bit disappointed that the score file is no more available
Ditto.
Its so generous that you free up your mind and share that knowledge to world.😊
I do the same thing you do, except from a different perspective. Since you have the training in modes/chords/scales, you imagine the chord b4 you write it. I instead find the notes that work together, not knowing what the chords/modes/scales are. The end result is much the same. I do wish I had your training. What I do have is the ear.
Thanks Rick! What you do is great! And I agree with your teaching/tutorial style, we have to analyze what you created in order to learn from it. And write music that sounds good to us, then we can discuss if it was the eleventh or the flat 9th of any given chord. Music was first created from what it felt pleasant and then theory was written to explain it. Thanks again!
Move the harp patterns to a low string ostinato and add some echoy drums for maximum zimmerization. 😂
This guy knows:)
+Nef Zimmerization haha! Great term!!
And get rid od much of the piano part imo. It's overkill
This is why I subscribe. I'm smarter for having watched this video. Thanks so much for all your videos they are amazing.
Rick, you are a genius! This helped me greatly for cue composing, 3 chord modal composition, eye opening!
Hey Rick, thanks for all of the info you put out for us all the time. As a fairly new composer, I love watching and learning from you. I'm currently working on some underscores for our church's Easter service and this will help a ton.
Thanks again.
Andy
Enjoyed your talk the other morning in NYC
This is a great learning video, Rick. And this deceptively simple 3-chord trick produces wonderfully evocative music that would be ideal for great sweeping landscapes, historical or fantasy movies such as Lord of the Rings.
Thanks, Rick. Amazing vid. I don't read, but your explanation was so great that I actually learned/observed some things about scoring music. Very enjoyable and worthwhile. You a treasure to find on UA-cam. Kudos.
This kind of video is exactly what I'm looking for as a musician starting my journey of orchestral composition. Very clear, one-by-one explanations of each instrument. Do you have more videos like this?
Thank you so much for this Rick. I've learnt so much from it in addition to film music writing
Just waiting for UMG to find a way to claim this video too.
Best educational music content on the internet! You explained this so clearly, thanks Rick!
Woo I need to bookmark this
Beautiful piece of music, and a great way to introduce someone (me!) to how to build up an orchestration. There’s so much to study here. Thanks Rick.
Beautiful! I'd love to hear a full orchestral score of this one day. Thanks for the tutorial, the pdf analysis will be very helpful! Shall dig into it over a cup of coffee tomorrow.
I really love the strings you're using. I have a feeling I'll be wasting tonight going through some of my patches and doing some editing. Either that or biting the bullet and going on a spending spree in the Spitfire store. Thanks, Rick. Good stuff as always.
Man, I could dig into this one video and PDF file and study it for weeks to really understand it. I may have to get his book haha
Great help Rick as i have begun my Cinematic Orchestration course!
I like your videos about film scoring! Keep up with it!
Incredibly helpful Rick. Thanks!
Thank you! I am currently working with film scoring at school, so this gives me some inspiration. Appreciate your work, God bless you! :))
Love your channel and learn a lot. Thanks for keeping the score in concert and limiting yourself to the three chords. I reminds me to practice development and orchestrating using what you've got. My only suggestion would be to use some of more library sample sounds you've recommended in other videos
Your channel is just freaking amazing! Thank you, Rick
Great lesson, man! Thanks a lot! Tells me I'm on the right "track" in my compositional mindset. Greetings from Brazil!
Answer: by using only 3 chords the whole piece.
This comment changed my life.
This makes me very happy.
What a beautiful little piece and what a great help. Keep it up!
I'm not a pro by a long shot, but musically interested. Question to anyone who can give an answer:
So this basic chord progression was Fm Eb Db
That's three chords going downwards in a stepwise motion. The theory books I looked into said that stepwise parallel movements were "forbidden". So, does this rule apply to chords, or just to multiple part voicings, or is it one of those rules that like to be broken?
Amazing video as usual Rick! Many thanks!
Love your channel. Thank you for all your teaching
Thank you! I like your encouraging approach. Appegiators a flat here and there it get interesting
Really cool way it comes together. Thanks Rick!
I know this sounds bizarre but I've been waiting for someone to make a video about how easy it is to abuse VI VII and i chords, thank you
Thankfully, there are people aware of this abuse, and someday it will stop. Although, in this case, are we not talking about vi V IV without resolution to I ?
To be clear I don't actually dislike music that makes use of the three chords, even heavy use of them. They're abused because they work well, and there's no reason a composer should avoid the use of something that works. It's almost like saying you should avoid the use of IV V I in a major key. You can, as Rick does here, make a good song that uses VI VII and i in creative ways by *not* just using the basic diatonic VI VII and i triads, but mixing it up with variations on those same chords.
As for the notational question, I prefer to take an Aeolian perspective when naming chords in minor key music, rather than viewing things through the lens of the parallel or relative major. So in the key of F minor, an F minor chord is i, not vi. An Eb major chord is VII, not V, and not bVII. Other people have different approaches.
Well, said, and as you inferred, my Ionian bias and my Walter Piston was showing.
Thanks for making the pdf available Rick!
thanks for a very good video and thanks also for your comments and replies to your viewers.
Can’t wait to start my new career!
Awesome Rick! Great video as always.
Great music! Thanks Rick! BTW, great talk last Tuesday in NYC.
Thanks for this beautiful inspiration. I am learning so much from you!!
Nice...back to some good video....love this lesson...Thank You
Great video !!,lots of great information !
Hi Rick! Greetings from Brazil =) I love this video, I'd like to study film Scoring, but unfortunately here in Brazil we don't have nothing like this. Thx for the lesson! Love your videos =)
nice composition, love 10 minute videos. Thanks
Wow, I admit I was skeptical, but you made a believer out of me 40 seconds in!
Amazing!
Thank your for this great lesson!
That was marvelous, thanks!
Ha Rick brother that was beautiful thanks for sharing. Also along time ago I saw Pat Metheny in LA, it was the America Garage album. It was an awesome show. Anyhow thanks 😎
Love the detail Rick. Thanks
Absolutely beautiful. Reminded me a lot of the Shawshank Redemption. I'm gonna have to try stuff like this out one day
How do you get those nice orchestra sounds? Do you have a notation program that plays back with those sounds, or do you notate it and then record/play it separately in another program?
Open to multiple answers/suggesting!
I’m just starting to score films and am trying to find a way to get a passable midi-orchestra sound (I know that midi will obviously not sound like a real orchestra, but I’d be happy with a sound like in this video).
Dylan J. Tran I hope we get an answer, it isn't in the description box.
I was asking myself the same thing (also an aspiring film composer :D)
You can do it with kontakt and good orchestral libraries...
I can do that with my Korg pa 4x...
this is so helpful thank you so much
Love your vids man... you're on another level.
Brillant!!
Thank you teacher!
BRAVO !!!!!! Perfect, thank you.
I would have liked the midi file with the score. Thanks for the lesson!
Wow. This is basically the way I wrote all of my music when I first got started composing as a teenager, but without all the cool voicing. I abused the hell out of the i-VI-VII progression. I bet if I went back to the way I used to write things, I could crank out ten tracks a day.
thank you for this valuable info!
So, the main character is traveling back home after a dozen of years on exile. Long shots of trees, lakes, mountains and finally cottage where he sees his home, out of a caravan window. Horses stop and he hesitated for a while from moving out being afraid how his family react. But there is no more family there. They are all dead long ago...
zakwasny LMAO!!!! most of fhe stuff i write abuses the fucknoutta these 3 chords, so i feel ya bro! Lol
Usamah Mustafa wassup Usamah!
Nice !!!!!
Are you going to make a feedback / answer vid on the ideal analysis one could make from the score ?
awesome !
Beautiful
Yesss more film pls
Thank you.
Hi! Rick
Thanks for this video. I have a strong interest in film scoring even though it's not so popular in South Africa.
I have composed a track consisting of different scenes. Wish someone could evaluate it for me.
sounds amazing to me! what keyboard are you using, how to get this sound?
I love the video! The strong part was great, but I felt like the piano playing the chords was not that satisfying, and I preferred the arpeggios, but I felt that if you maybe put the piano chords in the bass it woulda sound more full, but otherwise, very, very good!
The arpeggios are in the harp already. You don't want the harp and piano to flam with each other.
Hey Rick! Analysing the score right now and was wondering how you're analysing the Db chord in the 3rd measure. I would be tempted to think it's a Gdim(7)/Db (II6). Except for the Ab on the piano and harp, I'd be thinking of this chord otherwise than a Db chord. My question would be, how is it a Db chord in your eyes?
I could listen to this for hours, kinda reminds me of Basil Poledouris
Hi Rick. Great vid as always. When ever I write in Aeolian I always end up around the IV and V like you do here, they just seem to "live" together like a ii V I. This relationship isn't one I've heard or read about though, what are you thoughts? Also, I find it interesting that you did this in Fm aeolian, I think there's a danger when teaching/learning music, of using chords like Db because the impression is that they are inherently more interesting that "white" chords (Am, G and F would obviously have sounded just as awesome) - again, I'd be interested to hear your thoughts.
Please make more of these :D
Wow! Really educational, I'm learning a lot from following this channel, btw how did you record the track? Did you use samples or do you record all instruments or have someone else do the recording?
+Summoned Egar All samples played live. Some spitfire audio chamber strings and horns. East West oboe I think. The rest I don't remember
I am hearing your Sting influence in this piece Rick. He could have used this in his introduction to Desert Rose.
so, it may be seen as I- bVII and bVI, right?
What the theory behinde chord progressions
How we can learn to involve advanced chords into normal regular progression
Like how we will add sus or maj7
How we should learn
U r video good at deconstructing but if u make videos about theory understanding like chord progressions mailny
It would be helpful more
My request and view to u r videos
Hey Rick! it would be great if you could make a video on Mickey Mousing :)
Great!
That feel when you realize the theme of Thor: The Dark World literally uses only 1 CHORD PROGRESSION in only 2 DIFFERENT KEYS.
Am, Fmaj, Cmaj, Gmaj.
Cm, Abmaj, Ebmaj, Bbmaj.
@Dillon Jared how's about no?
Hi Rick! Earlier in one of thomas newman's score analysis you were using parallel 5ths in the left hand to demonstrate chord changes(I am not too sure). I have really been confused whether or not I should avoid using parallel 5ths in voices or not, you've used them in bar 4 and 5 of this piece. They sound really good though. What are your thoughts?
+Sagar Kapoor The no parallel 5ths rule is just for SATB writing. It's perfectly acceptable in modern music.
Thanks a lot Rick. :)
damn, great ! Thanks Rick!
That was really vool, thank you. What program do you use to reproduce the instruments? :D
you are the BEST.
Basic Question:
Why do you put this Peace in the genre of "Film Music"? What Notes do you have to combine to make it become "Film Music"?
+Aug24th Because this is the type of progression that is commonly heard in film music.
Where can I find more videos like this?