Well discovered!! I did it as a paid promotion so everyone knew it wasn’t included, and could be skipped! Thanks for watching and paying close attention!! 👍
Thank you for an in depth breakdown of your true costs I would say you need to £20k per year Including insurance, tax, mot, fuel, servicing, tyres, consumables, parking & valet each year to keep it in tip top condition
I owned a Honda CRv for13 years and that thing was constant work and money. 243k and I spent maybe 5k+ in parts and did all the labour myself. Hours and hours. I'd say 10k+ all to drive a Honda.
Hi Chris , just come across your videos on the phantom think your doing a brilliant job with good manner, I've own jaguar for many years and just bought a 62 plate xj .. witch like you've just done had to spend and will spend more to get it in top condition, more importantly you said a very true thing near the end of your video a car is all about emotion .. so true and I've experienced that with all the jaguars and Daimlers I've own . Thanks Chris, please keep up the good work 👍
These cars can cover big miles very reliably, there are hotels that have run up huge mileage on phantom VII’s but as you have found out the problem is when people don’t maintain them properly. These kind of cars really need preventative maintenance, but at the cheaper end of the market people tend to wait until things break and this has a knock on impact on other things on the car. It is questionable whether buying the cheapest is ideal or buying one that’s a bit more expensive and better maintained. At least you have something that is extremely early, car 4 is quite incredible and that in itself is pretty awesome. Hopefully it will serve you well for a long time.
Thanks for watching. They do say the cheapest Rolls Royce is the most expensive one you’ll ever buy for the very reason of the catch up maintenance. I think I’m there! It has been reliable but needs more work this year.
🤔 True, is they are quite capable of doing large a large mileage. But the real problem is, they mostly never do. They are often left setting for long periods. And there vehicles note that, because that is when the real problems start !....
Hi Chris, I just discovered your channel, and subscribed of course. It’s a lovely car, and certainly a head turner. I was wondering what the un named issue that you hinted at was?. It wouldn’t be a cylinder head gasket, or stretched timing chain?. I know that for these issues you’d need to sell both your kidneys, and probably still come up short. Anyway, I enjoyed the story so far, perhaps an exploration of how some of these jobs could be undertaken by the home mechanic?. Many thanks
Very informative. Thank you. Having run Ferrari's and Range Rovers for a couple of decades, for a higher mileage car, that's not too bad. Think I'll get a Roller next
@@richardcarter1000 Hi Richard, thanks for the comment. I’ve been really happy with mine. A great choice. I think Rollers get overlooked as they get older because people think they are to be chauffeured in. But they are great to drive. Another Rolls video coming this week! Thanks for watching, Chris
The bump from the 2nd to the 1st gear when slowing down is in the electric panel board and is just a small solenoid module, probably £15-20. A mecatronic specialist will do it easily. Mine costed all in £180
I own a 1973 Rolls Royce 2 door saloon mulliner Park Ward coach built, over 7 years I have spent £28,000 looking after it, which includes some painwork, and actuators for the air conditioning, new radiator, new under bonnet cushions, engine bay detailing, and 3 services, and much more, its 51 years old
Wow very nice. I would love an older Roller at some point. It's amazing to think cars now 50,60,70 years old and still going. Some in regular use. Thanks for watching.
Hello. Loved the video but I disagree with you on one thing. I think you could have bought a Phantom for 75k and STILL poured 25k into it. These eat money, and unless there are only a few years old, they will always have things that need sorting. But I love Phantom, I always have. I was so happy that BMW didn't ruin the brand, they kept the original ethos. They could have downsized, they could have cheapened the brand,, but they didn't, they made an unapologetically vast and expensive car. They knew what they had and turned it in to a viable business. A Phantom will always be a special car, and whilst it has deprecated it still retains relative value. How much would a 21 year old BMW 760, which would have cost 120k new be worth now? 3k, 4k? Anyway, lovely car, keep up the good work!
Thanks for a great comment! Much appreciated. Very true about the 760 comparison, and the £75k Roller! It’s just going to be an expensive journey! Thanks for watching!
@@ChrisEdworthyhaving been around this care a fair bit I would 100% echo the above comment, do check the batteries on these. They are VERY sensitive to voltage fluctuations.
A lot of parts are still Rolls so it would be the same cost. They aren't based upon any BMW platform they were developed separately. Yes they use a BMW engine, but the specific engine won't be found in any BMW. Thanks for watching.
Subscribed because I’m never going to own a phantom or even ride in one, but they are special. But are the new cars really that special or are they BMW mutton dressed as RR lamb, we need detail to really know this…
Thanks for your comment Steve, I think BMW have made a huge change. RR struggled for month in the 80’s & 90’s. It’s now a profitable brand able to deliver in that promise of luxury. BMW has given RR the stability it needed the thrive. The cars they are producing today are far beyond the level of my Phantom, it’s true to Henry Royce’s vision. However small volume car production is tough to get right, look at Aston Martin. RR wouldn’t be what it is today with BMW’s backing. If you ever get a chance to visit the factory, do, it’s quite incredible what the craftsmen and women do at RR at Goodwood. Thanks for watching.
@@ChrisEdworthy I’ve worked in engineering for 40 odd years, much of that time supplying support services for RR Aerospace. Unrelated and up a level from the motor cars, engineering is at the centre of everything they do, and they are really very very good at it. Product and product excellence over hype and fluff, delivering on the promise of the name. BMW appear to have done a great job with RR giving them financial means to design, engineer and build without compromise, your experience with older modern era RR promises to be really quite interesting test of this, operational reliability, with age and use being the real test of a well engineered product. I would suggest you detail your experiences, not so much with what and how much to fix but why (FMEA in Aerospace). Fully recognise that I’m a little nerdy about this stuff, Iain Tyrell is a bit of a YT hero!
@@Steve-rv1ql @iain_tyrrell makes some great videos. He’s got a huge head start on me… he understands what’s happening under the bonnet. I did think about using his services to restore the car. He’s miles away, but at least he understands what I’d like to show people on my channel. I often watch his videos of the beautiful cars he restores. Superb!
Chris, your other video is mistitled, sorry. You did not buy "The Cheapest Rolls Royce in the Country". There are some bargains in older examples, one that someone else has spent all their money on and then given up as there is still something left to do, something that a buyer can either do themselves or can easily afford. Interesting videos, they do tend to answer a lot of questions
Hi Roy, I bought it 3.5 years ago, I do explain at that time the cheapest was £65k from memory, if not a bit more. Hence I have figures for owning it in its first year. Thanks for watching and commenting though.
@@ChrisEdworthy Apologies, yes I missed that bit. Luxury cars have come down a lot in the last two years, it probably was the cheapest at the time.I do like your comments though about the Phantom being like a classic RR that everyone immediately recognises as a Rolls Royce.. It was very pertinent, the comment someone made about thinkg the Wraith was a Bentley, maybe the mascot was retracted at the time. I own a Silver Seraph with all the modern tech added, so I consider I have best of both worlds.
Never buy a car that has been exposed to continueous negative energies e.g. funeral car , they will affect the fabric of the overall car and its components.
😂 that’s brilliant. I’d never thought of that. I’ll say it’s been exposed to the celebration of life!! Look on the positive side! Thanks for your comment!
I have had a few Mercedes. Always good cars. Although the 2 S Classes did cost a bit as they got older. I think there’s cars for everyday and lot of miles and cars you buy for pleasure! This is something I’ve always wanted. Thanks for watching!
F*** me! I'm never touching an older RR or Bentley EVER! It'll be a Lexus or Mercedes from now on. Although my S550 has been a real money pit. Maybe a less complicated E class convertibles for me. If you have a cup and are collecting dimes or quarters to help, I can help contribute! Cheers. Great video. I love you honest manner and enthusiasm.
Thanks for your comments. Yes Lexus and Mercedes would be a lot cheaper to run. But they are everywhere, a little more craftsmanship at Rolls & Bentley. Thanks for watching.
@@tucoramirez3333 I’ve had 2 S Classes of the years. Different car entirely, I like the character that comes with a Roller. The craftsmanship that goes into it. Thanks for watching though
👍 Very wise decision. But life is short so have bought myself a small collection of these old-school Rolls_Royce and Bentley vehicles. All pre - German designed and built models !..
Thanks for commenting. The Ghost possibly, but the Phantom has always been on its own platform. Not many parts crossover. Good in one why… it’s a Rolls not a BMW dressed up… but that comes at a price!
Need to include chaufeur uniform and dry cleaning bills. Because that is the only person that should be at the wheel of a Phantom. Only brokies drive their own (aging) Phantom.
You can for some bits, although I actually haven’t as the car has only been to Rolls main dealer or specialist. There’s also a lot of the car that is Rolls Royce not BMW, so it’s not always possible. Good call though! Thanks for the comment!
please never trust mechanics they over charge on everything ,its sounds like you cannot get friends in the mechanical business.sorry but its sounds crazy what you paid .
I had to sit down listening to your breakdown...not for the faint hearted!!! Way too expensive considering the price of the car!! Your car wasn't the best in hindsight!!
Cheap cars are often cheap for a reason. You'd be better off buying an A1 condition car and it would cost you less to maintain. But I wanted a very early car. This is chassis number 4 and so I pay the price for the maintenance! Thanks for watching.
Interesting..... how many rip off merchants are still around. I wonder how far one could go, crazy world. With some serious research, someone else can help your wallet.
Great presentation. Especially the way you plug your company from the back of your Phantom! Nice move Chris.👌
Well discovered!! I did it as a paid promotion so everyone knew it wasn’t included, and could be skipped! Thanks for watching and paying close attention!! 👍
I find that some parts you’d expect to be expensive aren’t, and vice versa.
a big factor in the repairs is the labor, probably the equivalent to over $300.00 an hour
I know what you mean. Something are surprising. Thanks for watching!
Thank you for an in depth breakdown of your true costs
I would say you need to £20k per year
Including insurance, tax, mot, fuel, servicing, tyres, consumables, parking & valet each year to keep it in tip top condition
I think you’re a better presenter than Petrol Ped
Wow thank you that's a big compliment. He's very good and doing really well.
You're a brave man.
Great video, thank you!
Thanks for your comment. Heat vs head...the heart won!!
@@ChrisEdworthy I'm planning a Wraith for my retirement next year, looking forward to it!
@@jasoncattI had a Wraith for about 18 months. Brilliant cars. I’ll be reviewing one on here soon.
I owned a Honda CRv for13 years and that thing was constant work and money. 243k and I spent maybe 5k+ in parts and did all the labour myself. Hours and hours. I'd say 10k+ all to drive a Honda.
Hi Chris , just come across your videos on the phantom think your doing a brilliant job with good manner, I've own jaguar for many years and just bought a 62 plate xj .. witch like you've just done had to spend and will spend more to get it in top condition, more importantly you said a very true thing near the end of your video a car is all about emotion .. so true and I've experienced that with all the jaguars and Daimlers I've own . Thanks Chris, please keep up the good work 👍
Thank you. Very kind comment. More videos coming this week.
These cars can cover big miles very reliably, there are hotels that have run up huge mileage on phantom VII’s but as you have found out the problem is when people don’t maintain them properly. These kind of cars really need preventative maintenance, but at the cheaper end of the market people tend to wait until things break and this has a knock on impact on other things on the car.
It is questionable whether buying the cheapest is ideal or buying one that’s a bit more expensive and better maintained.
At least you have something that is extremely early, car 4 is quite incredible and that in itself is pretty awesome. Hopefully it will serve you well for a long time.
Thanks for watching. They do say the cheapest Rolls Royce is the most expensive one you’ll ever buy for the very reason of the catch up maintenance. I think I’m there! It has been reliable but needs more work this year.
🤔 True, is they are quite capable of doing large a large mileage. But the real problem is, they mostly never do. They are often left setting for long periods. And there vehicles note that, because that is when the real problems start !....
Hi Chris, I just discovered your channel, and subscribed of course. It’s a lovely car, and certainly a head turner.
I was wondering what the un named issue that you hinted at was?. It wouldn’t be a cylinder head gasket, or stretched timing chain?.
I know that for these issues you’d need to sell both your kidneys, and probably still come up short.
Anyway, I enjoyed the story so far, perhaps an exploration of how some of these jobs could be undertaken by the home mechanic?.
Many thanks
You have done a great job chap.Thank you
Thanks for your kind comment. Much appreciated. I have another Rolls video coming in the next few days. Thanks for watching!
Very informative. Thank you. Having run Ferrari's and Range Rovers for a couple of decades, for a higher mileage car, that's not too bad. Think I'll get a Roller next
@@richardcarter1000 Hi Richard, thanks for the comment. I’ve been really happy with mine. A great choice. I think Rollers get overlooked as they get older because people think they are to be chauffeured in. But they are great to drive. Another Rolls video coming this week! Thanks for watching, Chris
Nice and clear presentation. Subscribed.
Thanks much appreciated, I'm still learning... thanks for watching.
The bump from the 2nd to the 1st gear when slowing down is in the electric panel board and is just a small solenoid module, probably £15-20.
A mecatronic specialist will do it easily. Mine costed all in £180
Oh that's great advice. I'll speak to my mechanic about that. Thank you. Thanks for watching too.
I shall be following your story, it's very interesting and enlightening.
Thank you, much appreciated. I have just posted the second part of my daily driving! Hope you enjoy it.
Headphones left ear .....
Instead of an amp? Good call!!
Pretty sure it's not explicit to headphones, on my Macbook Pro the sound is also coming only from the left speakers. Not the end of the world.
I own a 1973 Rolls Royce 2 door saloon mulliner Park Ward coach built, over 7 years I have spent £28,000 looking after it, which includes some painwork, and actuators for the air conditioning, new radiator, new under bonnet cushions, engine bay detailing, and 3 services, and much more, its 51 years old
Wow very nice. I would love an older Roller at some point. It's amazing to think cars now 50,60,70 years old and still going. Some in regular use. Thanks for watching.
Cheap secondhand luxury or sports cars are often very expensive..
Hello. Loved the video but I disagree with you on one thing. I think you could have bought a Phantom for 75k and STILL poured 25k into it. These eat money, and unless there are only a few years old, they will always have things that need sorting.
But I love Phantom, I always have. I was so happy that BMW didn't ruin the brand, they kept the original ethos. They could have downsized, they could have cheapened the brand,, but they didn't, they made an unapologetically vast and expensive car. They knew what they had and turned it in to a viable business.
A Phantom will always be a special car, and whilst it has deprecated it still retains relative value. How much would a 21 year old BMW 760, which would have cost 120k new be worth now? 3k, 4k?
Anyway, lovely car, keep up the good work!
Thanks for a great comment! Much appreciated. Very true about the 760 comparison, and the £75k Roller! It’s just going to be an expensive journey! Thanks for watching!
very revealing for those of us who know very little about these splendid cars
Thanks for watching and commenting. Much appreciated.
Ref gear change, I’d be looking at gearbox filter and oil change. Also check battery condition too 👍
Why would battery condition affect the gearbox? Yes I am looking at a gearbox service currently. Thanks for watching!
@@ChrisEdworthy solonoids in gearbox require good voltage, same on the L322 😉
@@ChrisEdworthyhaving been around this care a fair bit I would 100% echo the above comment, do check the batteries on these. They are VERY sensitive to voltage fluctuations.
I run a 2011 Jaguar XJ Portfolio and thought I had big bills!
😂 yes my bill are quite steep! Thanks for watching!!
If you’d paid £70k for a Rolls Royce, the chances are that you would still have had to pay for additional work. So I think you’ve done ok. 🚙
Thanks, I love my old Rolls. Hopefully I'll keep her for many more years. Thanks for watching.
Pretty happy with my Mercedes - for now. Ticks most boxes. Rolls Royce are mainly aimed at very wealthy people. Obviously.
Am I being thick, can't you take it to a local BMW dealer as it's based on a 7 series for mechanical work?
A lot of parts are still Rolls so it would be the same cost. They aren't based upon any BMW platform they were developed separately. Yes they use a BMW engine, but the specific engine won't be found in any BMW. Thanks for watching.
O my God, I think I'll stick to my ford focus it's far cheaper to fix lol
🤣 they are cheaper but not as much fun! Thanks for watching.
Since when were the words 'Rolls-Royce and 'Affordable' ever used in the same sentence?
In fairness you could have bought a £70,000 Phantom and it may have still needed a similar amount spent on it...
I'm two minutes in and I'm guessing it's about £10k. Expensive cars remain expensive cars...
Edit: oh boy - I was waaay out!
Perfect example of you get what you pay for
Totally agree! There was something about it being an earlier car that got me!! Thanks for watching and commenting!
I wonder how a BMW specialist would compare price-wise to an RR one?
Thanks for the message. The hourly rate is ok. It’s the parts and a lot are Rolls specific rather than BMW. Some are ok to do that with though.
Great advice. Thanks
But ill stick to my Morris Marina. lnao
Thanks much appreciated!
Forget the dealerships, get a qualified RR mechanic to work on your car privately. Everyone wins.
Thanks a good idea. Thanks for watching.
They really bent you over for that car when you went to the garage.
😂 it did cost a fair amount! Thanks for watching.
Many Thanks! I'm going out now to wash my '99 Corolla . 🚓🚗🚕🚕
😂😂 your 25 years of servicing probably only totals 1 year of my Rolls! Thanks for watching, much appreciated.
U haven't mentioned peteral bill
My latest video shows the start of using a tank of fuel! Subscribe to find out how good or bad it is on fuel! Thanks for watching!
Petrol ped is irritating
@@douglasboswell5737 😂 it’s personal choice I guess. A few people have said that about me! Thanks for watching!!
Subscribed because I’m never going to own a phantom or even ride in one, but they are special. But are the new cars really that special or are they BMW mutton dressed as RR lamb, we need detail to really know this…
Thanks for your comment Steve, I think BMW have made a huge change. RR struggled for month in the 80’s & 90’s. It’s now a profitable brand able to deliver in that promise of luxury. BMW has given RR the stability it needed the thrive. The cars they are producing today are far beyond the level of my Phantom, it’s true to Henry Royce’s vision. However small volume car production is tough to get right, look at Aston Martin. RR wouldn’t be what it is today with BMW’s backing. If you ever get a chance to visit the factory, do, it’s quite incredible what the craftsmen and women do at RR at Goodwood. Thanks for watching.
@@ChrisEdworthy I’ve worked in engineering for 40 odd years, much of that time supplying support services for RR Aerospace. Unrelated and up a level from the motor cars, engineering is at the centre of everything they do, and they are really very very good at it. Product and product excellence over hype and fluff, delivering on the promise of the name.
BMW appear to have done a great job with RR giving them financial means to design, engineer and build without compromise, your experience with older modern era RR promises to be really quite interesting test of this, operational reliability, with age and use being the real test of a well engineered product. I would suggest you detail your experiences, not so much with what and how much to fix but why (FMEA in Aerospace). Fully recognise that I’m a little nerdy about this stuff, Iain Tyrell is a bit of a YT hero!
@@Steve-rv1ql @iain_tyrrell makes some great videos. He’s got a huge head start on me… he understands what’s happening under the bonnet. I did think about using his services to restore the car. He’s miles away, but at least he understands what I’d like to show people on my channel. I often watch his videos of the beautiful cars he restores. Superb!
Chris, your other video is mistitled, sorry. You did not buy "The Cheapest Rolls Royce in the Country". There are some bargains in older examples, one that someone else has spent all their money on and then given up as there is still something left to do, something that a buyer can either do themselves or can easily afford. Interesting videos, they do tend to answer a lot of questions
Hi Roy, I bought it 3.5 years ago, I do explain at that time the cheapest was £65k from memory, if not a bit more. Hence I have figures for owning it in its first year. Thanks for watching and commenting though.
@@ChrisEdworthy Apologies, yes I missed that bit. Luxury cars have come down a lot in the last two years, it probably was the cheapest at the time.I do like your comments though about the Phantom being like a classic RR that everyone immediately recognises as a Rolls Royce.. It was very pertinent, the comment someone made about thinkg the Wraith was a Bentley, maybe the mascot was retracted at the time. I own a Silver Seraph with all the modern tech added, so I consider I have best of both worlds.
Never buy a car that has been exposed to continueous negative energies e.g. funeral car , they will affect the fabric of the overall car and its components.
😂 that’s brilliant. I’d never thought of that. I’ll say it’s been exposed to the celebration of life!! Look on the positive side! Thanks for your comment!
You paid £17000 including the amp why not get a used amp
I couldn't find a used amp. Most scrapped Rolls have fire damage, so they can be knacker electrically.
I don't see the point in buying a load of expensive trouble, with big bills that will follow you around, unless you have got money to burn.
I have had a few Mercedes. Always good cars. Although the 2 S Classes did cost a bit as they got older. I think there’s cars for everyday and lot of miles and cars you buy for pleasure! This is something I’ve always wanted. Thanks for watching!
F*** me! I'm never touching an older RR or Bentley EVER! It'll be a Lexus or Mercedes from now on. Although my S550 has been a real money pit. Maybe a less complicated E class convertibles for me. If you have a cup and are collecting dimes or quarters to help, I can help contribute! Cheers. Great video. I love you honest manner and enthusiasm.
Thanks for your comments. Yes Lexus and Mercedes would be a lot cheaper to run. But they are everywhere, a little more craftsmanship at Rolls & Bentley. Thanks for watching.
£70k would get u a nearly new Mercedes s class and quite a few other nice cars - old phantoms are not worth it
@@tucoramirez3333 I’ve had 2 S Classes of the years. Different car entirely, I like the character that comes with a Roller. The craftsmanship that goes into it. Thanks for watching though
I've decided not to own one 😅
@@tomf4547 But you have a Capri?! Thanks for watching!
👍 Very wise decision. But life is short so have bought myself a small collection of these old-school Rolls_Royce and Bentley vehicles. All pre - German designed and built models !..
@@ChrisEdworthy haha, parts are in the £10's not £1000's
@@alancrisp1582 life is short so I traded my '81 Capri for a' 18 LC500. I'm banking on the Japanese engineering 🤣
I won't moan again about buying mobil 1 for my oil change
BMW parts?
Thanks for commenting. The Ghost possibly, but the Phantom has always been on its own platform. Not many parts crossover. Good in one why… it’s a Rolls not a BMW dressed up… but that comes at a price!
i would be going to join a rolls royce car club ,,and find a mechanic ,GET QUOTES BEFORE THEY START.never trust mechanics.
I have literally just joined. Although 2 of the garages were recommended through the Rolls Club! They were good, just pricey! Thanks for watching.
Need to include chaufeur uniform and dry cleaning bills. Because that is the only person that should be at the wheel of a Phantom. Only brokies drive their own (aging) Phantom.
You'll be surprised, more and more drive their cars. They drive really well. Thanks for watching... are you a Bentley man?
Have you tried BMW parts? Much cheaper. 😂
You can for some bits, although I actually haven’t as the car has only been to Rolls main dealer or specialist. There’s also a lot of the car that is Rolls Royce not BMW, so it’s not always possible. Good call though! Thanks for the comment!
please never trust mechanics they over charge on everything ,its sounds like you cannot get friends in the mechanical business.sorry but its sounds crazy what you paid .
It’s been an expensive journey. I do now know a mechanic, so my luck may have changed. He features in my next video! Thanks for watching!
I had to sit down listening to your breakdown...not for the faint hearted!!! Way too expensive considering the price of the car!! Your car wasn't the best in hindsight!!
Cheap cars are often cheap for a reason. You'd be better off buying an A1 condition car and it would cost you less to maintain. But I wanted a very early car. This is chassis number 4 and so I pay the price for the maintenance! Thanks for watching.
Interesting..... how many rip off merchants are still around. I wonder how far one could go, crazy world. With some serious research, someone else can help your wallet.
I'd like to find someone local to help, that would also let me share the progress. Thanks for watching.
I think you got a lovely car and running this car is not very good. RR. are just worth the sacrifice it costs.
I love owning her. There’s a risk to owning an expensive older car. But hey, what is life for, enjoy it! Thanks for watching!
Money . Pit
Yep! But I do love it!! Thanks for watching!!