Angie definitely had way more milage and left too soon. We never got to see her discover Den as Vicki's biological father or his demise. One of Walfords finest. Queen of the Vic.
Yea I would have loved for Anita to stay a bit longer and maybe come back at the same time Leslie returned. They were such a great combination on screen. Or maybe do a separate episode outside of the show where they reunited briefly.
One of the best written characters ever devised for Eastenders and performed to the hilt by Anita Dobson. Things were never the same on the square when she left never to return.
No it wouldn’t, her best days were in the 80’s, she was the magic of Eastenders in that particular time period from 85 to 88, It’s not really the same show anymore and most of the legends from Eastenders have either died in real life or have been killed off in the show.
5:00 by far my favourite Den moment. Den ripping the letter speaks so much about his character. He both doesn’t care about Angie’s letter but at the same time he can’t read it. He refuses to let his ego get hurt by Angie moving on even though Den caused this and just thinks “good riddance” but he rips the letter knowing full well deep down he still loves her and that she’s completely over him. I think Dirty Den was the first TV character that was three dimensional the writing team were light years ahead of rival shows and Leslie Grantham was light years ahead with his acting and his style
I've been watching classic Eastenders on drama and saw this episode this morning. I loved Angie in it. I was born the exact date & year Eastenders aired, I'll never forget it 👌☺️
Between 1985 and 1990, it was brilliant...the storylines were just so innovative, non PC and just superb...people overlook how brilliant the series was...
Ant John Rewatching it too. Astounded by the quality of it & it was full of humour. I don’t think I fully appreciated the brilliance of Angie & Den first time round. They are electric together.
I feel it was never the same after 1989. Even the Mitchells never filled the void left by the Watts, Lofty, Osmans etc. Also the suqare was smartened up in 1992 and lost its gritty inner city feel.
It was good in the 2000's it had some good realistic storyline like the Trevor Little mo one but it really started to go to the shitter in 2010 onwards.
She probably would’ve returned around the time Den. returned if Yorke wasn’t so recklessly-impatient. Louise Berridge is the only E.P. who seemed to really have any-much respect for the ’80s-cast but by the time she was aboard it were too late.
No, Eastenders had started to go downhill a lot by then, when I think of Angie I think 80’s and everything that went with it, that magic went away after she left, and then we had a new decade, it slowly started to get worse in the 90’s, and Eastenders a shit show now and a shadow of former self!
A bit of an anticlimactic send off for such a great character. It's also a shame that she never returned at all. I would have loved to have seen her reaction Den returned in the 2000's.
This was the style for ’80s departures. They weren’t such a big deal back in the day, not in the sensationalised way we know today. It’s an approach that could’ve been put to good practice even now/more contemporarily for the likes of Fatboy. Turning Ronnie 2.0 into even-more of a sociopath for a road-boy who wasn’t that well-acted (he was brill. with Dot and okay with Mercy but that’s really it, still) wasn’t worth it. If he’s have just decided to dip to Hackney or Liverpool Ronnie wouldn’t have been monstrously-damaged to the point where the next E.P., however-misguidedly, thought the only way to make retributive amends with herself was to die and Fats would’ve probably eventually found out it weren’t Max. who killed Lucy.
They are playing "Everytime You Go Away" by Paul Young. As many of you know it was written by Daryl Hall back around the 1970's. Also "Maneater" was used in a Special saluting Samantha Mitchell. I was blown away when I found out. I would love for Daryl to bring his Webseries to The UK and do Jam Sessions with Folks from the UK. Alot of talent is in that country.
Here's a fun fact. Every Time You Go Away was written by Daryl Hall of Hall & Oates who also flipped Houses in England. His Webseries has featured the Cream Of The Crop of Music.
Angie would’ve made a great comeback in 2001 with Sharon would have added so much to dens second stint and death. But no the producers killed her off because Anita Dobson wouldn’t return.
‘And don’t think I didn’t know the details of your sordid little plan weeks ago because I did’ Always one step ahead. He didn’t even lamp Sonny for messing with his woman. Just please, take her away!
I don’t think it was right that Angie didn’t get the duff duff in this. Do you have when Sharon returns in 2002 for Angie’s funeral and when Lynne leaves in 2004?
She would’ve. Chrissie was very similar to Angie in many of her ways (and I feel like early Linda had Angie-like theatricism to her, only time-mediated; or at-least that’s how they wanted her to come-off as) and she was an enormous hit who’s still talked about to this day. I’d have said Angie was welcome back any day if she wasn’t dead.
Ahh yeah so glad it didn't take long! :) and wow really! You're lucky to be born in the late 80s I bet experiencing the full 90s was awesome! I only experienced half of the 90s as i was born in 93 :)
The interruptions are reminiscent of the window cleaner unwittingly eavesdropping during their two hander when Angie lied she had six months to live! Love Den’s facial expressions and sneering snarls lol. Good choices of background music too - Every Time You Go Away and Somewhere In My Heart, appropriate. Who were Sonny and Ree, can’t remember, were they actual featured characters or just referred to?
Why on earth was she never brought back to Eastenders she left way too soon 3 years that's all maybe she was asked to return but refused i don't know but she could of had legendary status like Bet Lynch Pat butcher Peggy Mitchel and Annie Walker.
Yes she was asked numerous times but always turned them down. She said she didn’t want to tarnish such a an awesome character like Angie by coming back x
She didn't want to come back and looking at it now she made the right decision. That's the mistake Tamin Outhwaite made as they ruined her character to fit the modern day trash it has become.
@@HSD. Angie was the original landlady and the Watts and Mitchells weren’t exactly good mates when Peggy was alive, hence Angie meeting her was unnecessary.
Why did Eastenders make abusive men the main and centre of the show? Den, then Grant Mitchell then Phil. EE seems to thrive of abusive powerful men who dominate the square.
Angie definitely had way more milage and left too soon. We never got to see her discover Den as Vicki's biological father or his demise. One of Walfords finest. Queen of the Vic.
sometimes it's best to go at your peak, some great characters can get ruined by being it in too long.
@@shanefolan like Sharon and Phil and lan
Andrew Wright while I’d say all those characters are past their peak I wouldn’t say their ruined
Yea I would have loved for Anita to stay a bit longer and maybe come back at the same time Leslie returned. They were such a great combination on screen.
Or maybe do a separate episode outside of the show where they reunited briefly.
@@shanefolan Yep, look what happened to Dot Cotton and Suzy Branning. 🤣
I love the way Angie chucks everyone back into the party in the nicest possible way!
One of the best written characters ever devised for Eastenders and performed to the hilt by Anita Dobson. Things were never the same on the square when she left never to return.
I agree...she was brilliant as Angie. Very talented actress xx
@Joker Eastenders was at its pinnacle in the mid 80s from the 90s onward it completely changed with the Mitchell’s
Yes so agree I had hoped she would return as Angie but sadly it was never to be
Angie was brilliant but I’d probably take Chrissie (who was just magnificent) over her.
@@alannahfidler3418 The 90's was great.
She’s so iconic on eastenders and she was only in it for 3 years crazy.
Angie's return would make Eastenders popular again, I would watch it, I would even buy a TV licence!
She'd have to do a Bobby Ewing to return though!
No it wouldn’t, her best days were in the 80’s, she was the magic of Eastenders in that particular time period from 85 to 88, It’s not really the same show anymore and most of the legends from Eastenders have either died in real life or have been killed off in the show.
Her character got killed off recently. But stranger things have happened.
@@softshallow7435 Recently? Her funeral was over 20 years ago now.
@@gyobfan22 Exactly. When Den “returned from the dead” he even went to visit his and her graves in 2003
5:00 by far my favourite Den moment. Den ripping the letter speaks so much about his character. He both doesn’t care about Angie’s letter but at the same time he can’t read it. He refuses to let his ego get hurt by Angie moving on even though Den caused this and just thinks “good riddance” but he rips the letter knowing full well deep down he still loves her and that she’s completely over him. I think Dirty Den was the first TV character that was three dimensional the writing team were light years ahead of rival shows and Leslie Grantham was light years ahead with his acting and his style
Areet hunnam son
Brilliant thanks what a legend shame she never returned
Should never have been killed off
@@theeastendboy true but well long gone now eastenders changed too much for me
She was one of my favourite characters ever on EastEnders think she was brilliant these were te best times of the soap
I've been watching classic Eastenders on drama and saw this episode this morning. I loved Angie in it. I was born the exact date & year Eastenders aired, I'll never forget it 👌☺️
Been rewatching it on Drama. A thousand times better than now, the show really went downhill once the original.cast all started leaving.
Between 1985 and 1990, it was brilliant...the storylines were just so innovative, non PC and just superb...people overlook how brilliant the series was...
Ant John Rewatching it too. Astounded by the quality of it & it was full of humour. I don’t think I fully appreciated the brilliance of Angie & Den first time round. They are electric together.
I feel it was never the same after 1989. Even the Mitchells never filled the void left by the Watts, Lofty, Osmans etc. Also the suqare was smartened up in 1992 and lost its gritty inner city feel.
It was good in the 2000's it had some good realistic storyline like the Trevor Little mo one but it really started to go to the shitter in 2010 onwards.
not at all
Leslie Grantham RIP 👼 👼
It’s a shame Angie never came back a few years later in 1994 around the time of Sharongate
@Adam Oliver they’re clash with Peggy would’ve been good.
She probably would’ve returned around the time Den. returned if Yorke wasn’t so recklessly-impatient. Louise Berridge is the only E.P. who seemed to really have any-much respect for the ’80s-cast but by the time she was aboard it were too late.
No, Eastenders had started to go downhill a lot by then, when I think of Angie I think 80’s and everything that went with it, that magic went away after she left, and then we had a new decade, it slowly started to get worse in the 90’s, and Eastenders a shit show now and a shadow of former self!
Imagine Angie and Grant acting scenes together! Then putting Phil in his place!
Yes
It's sad to think that Angie, Den, Pat, Frank and Pete are all dead now
Such a moving scene with her Pat and Frank especially with Paul Young playing in background really makes a good send off to dear old angie
Too young to remember 80s eastenders but have memories of it being on TV. Love watching in 2019 den and angie rein again if only on drama at lunch ❤
A bit of an anticlimactic send off for such a great character. It's also a shame that she never returned at all. I would have loved to have seen her reaction Den returned in the 2000's.
This was the style for ’80s departures. They weren’t such a big deal back in the day, not in the sensationalised way we know today. It’s an approach that could’ve been put to good practice even now/more contemporarily for the likes of Fatboy. Turning Ronnie 2.0 into even-more of a sociopath for a road-boy who wasn’t that well-acted (he was brill. with Dot and okay with Mercy but that’s really it, still) wasn’t worth it. If he’s have just decided to dip to Hackney or Liverpool Ronnie wouldn’t have been monstrously-damaged to the point where the next E.P., however-misguidedly, thought the only way to make retributive amends with herself was to die and Fats would’ve probably eventually found out it weren’t Max. who killed Lucy.
The show was never quite the same once Angie left.
Never the same without Angie
They are playing "Everytime You Go Away" by Paul Young. As many of you know it was written by Daryl Hall back around the 1970's. Also "Maneater" was used in a Special saluting Samantha Mitchell. I was blown away when I found out. I would love for Daryl to bring his Webseries to The UK and do Jam Sessions with Folks from the UK. Alot of talent is in that country.
I wish Angie never got killed off. She would be great if she returned especially for Sharon
well they never saw the body so...
The Vic will always be Angie’s pub.
Angie's Favourite Song Is Anyone Can Fall In Love
Here's a fun fact. Every Time You Go Away was written by Daryl Hall of Hall & Oates who also flipped Houses in England. His Webseries has featured the Cream Of The Crop of Music.
I think they should do lockdown episodes like Sharon in the pub and sees Angies ghost and Ian sees Pete ghost and Martin sees arthers ghost
Do what?
Angie would’ve made a great comeback in 2001 with Sharon would have added so much to dens second stint and death. But no the producers killed her off because Anita Dobson wouldn’t return.
#justiceforanita
The producers are so immature
Got to love Den. He’s such a prick. 😂
Shame Anita never came back and reunited with Leslie. They were such a great combination on screen together.
They did at least make a movie together ‘The Stretch’
‘And don’t think I didn’t know the details of your sordid little plan weeks ago because I did’
Always one step ahead. He didn’t even lamp Sonny for messing with his woman. Just please, take her away!
Boils my blood that Peggy has a picture behind that bar Angie is the true queen of the vic and Anita is a better actress than bingo Windsor
Well now Sharon has taken over the pub you can spot lots of Den and Angie pictures in the background, which is brilliant to see :)
Gottta love an 80s party
I don’t think it was right that Angie didn’t get the duff duff in this.
Do you have when Sharon returns in 2002 for Angie’s funeral and when Lynne leaves in 2004?
Never mind the duff-duff, what about Julia's Theme?
I think Anita Dobson was scared to return to the show because she felt like she wouldn’t have the same popularity with younger generations.
She would’ve. Chrissie was very similar to Angie in many of her ways (and I feel like early Linda had Angie-like theatricism to her, only time-mediated; or at-least that’s how they wanted her to come-off as) and she was an enormous hit who’s still talked about to this day. I’d have said Angie was welcome back any day if she wasn’t dead.
I was 8 years old back then!
Brilliant Angie turned the tables on dirty den
She finally found happiness Angie she got the last laugh. Her ex-husband he's mad cuz she's happy you go girl
@@ninahurd2592 Not really, Den looked perfectly content to see her go, and she ended up drinking herself to death.
Goodbye Angie Watts
0:17 I see they'd gradually been easing Frank and Pat into the position of the new landlords!!!!
The sound of that taxi I'm not sure they did get to the airport
Den treated Angie horribly tbh
She loved it
@@nutboy93 no she didn't.
The casual sexism of Ange leaving Frank with her suitcases to carry! 😄
Den's face whilst he tore up the letter as if to say finally I've got rid of her 😂😂😂
Legend
A very underated actress
Angie Leaves The Albert Square
cheers for this :)
This used to be on here back in its full form in 2013 but got blocked
That meter must off racked up a few quid 😂😂😂😂
A couple of months before I was born
Ahh yeah so glad it didn't take long! :) and wow really! You're lucky to be born in the late 80s I bet experiencing the full 90s was awesome! I only experienced half of the 90s as i was born in 93 :)
EE Scenes 85 Yes the 90s were amazing music was good,people could act and movies were amazing
I was born in 1987. 😁
@@eescenes85 i was born in 2004 so i couldn't experience the 90s or the early 2000s which i hate
@@eescenes85 I was born in 84. Yay!
Loved angie great character
wow I remember this episode
I always thought she'd return one day so 😢
Angie knew that deep down this was a shallow victory. But I guess she had to cut her losses somewhere.
Why was it a shallow victory?
Because she was a bit too much of a co-dependant to fully escape. She even requested to be buried next to Den in the end.
The interruptions are reminiscent of the window cleaner unwittingly eavesdropping during their two hander when Angie lied she had six months to live! Love Den’s facial expressions and sneering snarls lol. Good choices of background music too - Every Time You Go Away and Somewhere In My Heart, appropriate. Who were Sonny and Ree, can’t remember, were they actual featured characters or just referred to?
do u know what track was playing whilst angie was telling den and Sharon why she was leaving
@@scotty87able All About Eve Every Angel
@@WhitneyHouston4eva1 cheers i now have the album on the ipod
Eastenders is all doom & gloom, full of misery now.
no, it was back then
I was 2 months old when this episode was on
Sad years around the late eighties lots of the original cast left this same month mary the punk left the square too
The day EastEnders died
Glad this video got unblocked
Why was it blocked before?
Joe Stewart-Paul Copyrights inflation
@@djwalkerfemaledj Ah right
They’re playing All About Eve in that room!
Every Angel?
@@hadj0587Yup! Wonderful song!
anita dobson starred in the comedy series the rebel
What's the song, when den walks to Sharon for a hug at the end?
Somewhere in my heart Aztec Camera.
Left for holiday in Portugal on this exact day
Thursday may 1988
She should return from the dead and Come to see Sharon
Remember this well. Shame they killed her off, they could have had her return every so often like Grant.
Den was loathsome. Another creep that the writers made all the women fawn over, like Max Branning and now Ravi 🤮
Why on earth was she never brought back to Eastenders she left way too soon 3 years that's all maybe she was asked to return but refused i don't know but she could of had legendary status like Bet Lynch Pat butcher Peggy Mitchel and Annie Walker.
Yes she was asked numerous times but always turned them down. She said she didn’t want to tarnish such a an awesome character like Angie by coming back x
@@kimpeacock6357 Thank you very much for your info much appreciated I will miss her on Drama.
She didn't want to come back and looking at it now she made the right decision. That's the mistake Tamin Outhwaite made as they ruined her character to fit the modern day trash it has become.
Well said Fortnut nite. I haven't watched for donkeys yrs. Its utter depressing garbage now. Anita's never been short of work,best decision she made.
She DOES have legendary status.
What's the name of the background music towards the end?
Aztec Camera - Somewhere In My Heart. X
@@MissTLI1980 Diolch yn fawr. That's Welsh for thank you.
Didn't know Dave Angel eco warrior was in eastenders
The Old Theme Tune
The vocal version 'anyone can fall in love' was sung by Anita Dobson herself xx
That's One.
Fake the death of Angie and bring her back. 2020.
I wish but sadly Anita Dobson is reluctant to return 🙁
It’s a shame angie never got to meet Peggy
She was Peggy before Peggy. She didn’t really need to.
@@Anonymous_Anon882 what?
@@HSD. Angie was the original landlady and the Watts and Mitchells weren’t exactly good mates when Peggy was alive, hence Angie meeting her was unnecessary.
Shame she never returned.
Is the perosn who plays her still alive or not? ❤
Nvm i found out she’s alive so dw❤
I think Angie should return from the dead to see Sharon
Don’t be so stupid 😂
I love Angie
That would have been interesting to see.
Everyone always calls Peggy The Queen of The Vic. Sorry but that title will always belong to Angie.
It was all just about scoring points over people, and posturing to Den, wasn't it?????
Good old ang
Where’s Sharon
Sharon Was Beautiful
Why did Eastenders make abusive men the main and centre of the show? Den, then Grant Mitchell then Phil. EE seems to thrive of abusive powerful men who dominate the square.
Angie is the true Queen of the Vic not Peggy 👑🍷
Marbella??? Glamorous???
Miss you ang and so does sharon.
Slim Pat! 😅
Den wants them have fun yeah with Mitchells!!
When did Angie die? Was it offscreen?
Yes Angie died offscreen in 2002 she died from liver cirrhosis
Isn’t Den horrible 😂
no he's glad to see the back of the old tart.
Love barry❤
Poor Sharon abandoned