I worked 4 months in South Africa in 2007. I’m Swedish. SA will always have a place in my heart. The people I met changed me so much. Amazing people. Hard to explain.
Thank you so much You too will always have a space in our hearts as South Africans. There have been always people whom South Africans mended and the sweeds are one of those. The sweeds have always been a Gem stone to us.
The negative people will not change our view which is positive obout us South Africans. Crime is everywhere. The don't wanna tell us about a criminal gang that is now ranging in U.K. but our friends tells us about those ugly people operating there. They don't wanna tell us about those hooligans. They behave as if U.K. is safe and we in S.A its all about crime. The liers have been exposed.
@@ianmiles2505 You will never succeed by scarring other people. There is gang that is a nuisance in Europe even Putin and Israel are destabilising Europe. They don't want to hang their dirty linens. African Americans are coming in drones in South Africa unlike the gun laws that is ravaging our brothers over there in the USA . Because they were stolen in Africa for them is a breather coming back.You blew our crime into propotion. If you dont like South Africa just pack your bags and go or stay there in the west. 9We in South Africa are O.K. and and we are home. You too go to your home were you can be treated like being in honeymoon. We are tired of people like you.
I wish people would understand that London is not UK. I swear people that visit England spent the whole time in London and believe the whole country is the same. Just like Jhb is not South Africa.
This is very true. There are some lovely places in the UK. But there are alot of great places in Europe. I loved living in Budapest. An amazing city and very safe. Much better than anything I've experienced in SA.
@@Sifisomabanga That is EXACTLY the point jamesramsey is making. The largest, and capital city of the UK is completely different from every other part of the country. Just like someone from SA knows JHB is not representative of their nation. However, many visitors from abroad only ever see London, and believe that is what England, or even Great Britain consists of. Like visiting USA - is America New York City, or is America Disneyland.
@@jpgous675 Glad you are happier, yep tough but everywhere is getting that way now. You have to leave SA to realise what you have...the bad and good. All the best. I am working at coming home, hopefully soon.
Perfectly said. So what if UK or where ever is sold as utopia. My family are in SA and it never feels bad when I know they are a 20min drive away. Stuff immigration. I am staying right here, water or no water. Eskom or Eksdom..staying!
I offer take long walks to the mall and back which in total is 1+1/2 hrs. After attending the Church and spending a couple hrs in mall then venturing back home , it's like Heaven just to arrive 🏠 and enjoy the stillness and tranquility in my comfort zone. 😇🇿🇦🇮🇱. correction: offer should read "often"
New Zealand isn't that safe anymore either, we moved here 10 years ago, and it was a hole lot safer, but now, gangs are everywhere, shootings, murders etc., just now Sunday, the shops not far from my house was a gang shooting, a week before then further up the road, got ram raided as they all it here, and the cops legally cant do shit really, because of diversity crap. if i didn't have my family here, i would move back tomorrow. side note, the weather here is quite kak.
I've heard it said many times , that if they could return to SA they would . It's easier to leave , than to return . Reality hits and they realise, the grass is not greener on the other side .
Average household debt-to-income ratio in Australia is over 200%, and most of that debt is housing loan. It costs a helluva lot more to access housing in Australia than in South Africa. The grass is not always greener on the other side.
I’m coming back next year boys and can’t wait (lived in Europe and now in the Middle East) - see you soon 🇿🇦 If you ever want an interview or chat let me know, I’m a lawyer for a major international energy company and I think we’ll have an interesting discussion 👍
Yeah I noticed that on YT, there's an influx of African Americans coming here, not just them but white Americans too. I'm no Nostredamus but I have a feeling South Africa is the next world superpower
Whether in SA or Europe, making a living is tough. However, in EU it’s minus the crime , load shedding, BEE, crumbling infrastructure, etc.. Load shedding & crime have all but ended family social activities after dark in SA. South Africans seem oblivious to the heavy stresses that these issues create, to the extent that this abnormal burden is considered ‘normal’ living in SA. South Africans need to unshackle themselves from this burden, instead of pretending that the antidote is sunny skies & a braai.
Spot on I rather starve and b safe than b a prisoner cant even teach children independence as one worries about safety all the time not to mention cat calling and just general disrespect and then this loadshedding and water cuts will never miss SA its a nightmare fast becoming like the US
Your comment ought to begin with "for some", cause this opinion is devoid of facts. For most Africans residing in South Africa, not having access to electricity and running water IS NOT NEW. We grew up having to buy coal from a horse and cart and parafin became so popular, we utilized it to remedy other ill in the society we were forced into. Currently, our major cities have seen an uptake in new night spots, bars and night clubs. The nightlife even spawned 'Maboneng' as a hub for owls. It is amazing that some will at economic empowerment as an obstacle not a tool to regress the decisions of the 'not so wise men in that room', who thought it would be prudent to constitutionally oppress people because of race. Yet, when a dunderhead party leader shouts taking land back without compensation, it suddenly seems unfair to some. We will never have peace in this country if we don't right the wrongs, period. Ignorance of the state of this nation prior 1994 is not an excuse. The western countries' will fool most with propaganda and media suppression. Just like reporting during the pandemic, we have countries who intentionally are economic with their stats, and yet shout how dangerous RSA is, highest murder rate, most rapes, highest corruption, you name it were are there. So, when Mexico list a top 20 most dangerous areas to live in, and we can only find Cape province, yes the same in which Cape Town that ranks 1st or 2nd in a UK based publication, as the best city to live in. We have even cracked the mass shooting phenomenon that some are grappling with. We even have celebrated individuals calling our gov as the worst on the planet, I'm keen to see how are comparatively to other countries he has resided in, and the number of 'em, especially the per capita brakedown indication which areas of affirmation leaves us statistically to be worse that Zim, the UK, the States, Haiti, Korea, no! the other one, Australia...I mean should I go on?
For example suicides in England and Wales. In 2022, 5,642 suicides were registered in England and Wales. A total of 8.6 million patients in England were prescribed antidepressants in 2022-23, with the amount having almost doubled since 2011, according to the NHS. Let me see, in terms of mental health I would rather have blue skies and braai than artificial serotonin uptake.
My sister moved back from Ireland... The weather and the environment she says was terrible. People swear like it's normal and says they have serious issues there in the UK as well but she prefers South African problems to their problems....
Your racist ways will make it difficult for you to stay in SA.....lol...because nobody is removing anybody....you will be governed by black people and there is nothing you can do about it...
I've been in the uk for the past 10 years. Visited last May for 3 weeks and I don't know why I'm here in the uk still. Yes, SA is in a rough state. But the life, the air... there's no chemtrails! The people... Plus, walking around in Krugersdorp, I didn't feel so alive in a long time. Maybe it was because I had to have my head on a swifel. It's been a while that I had to watch my back. Only to find, it's not that bad man. There is no place like home.
When you said "chemtrails" I knew you were a moron. Try living under SA's current conditions on a SA salary for a few months with the electrical grid offline for half the time and you'll be begging to get tf out of here
Being a black South African, i can agree that the country has had it's fair share of problems. But there's a strong feeling amongst some black professionals that the end days for ANC being in power are very close.
Lol 😂. Something doesn't add up if you think the EFF will be better or that the ANC will lose. Too many people reliant on their SASSA grants which they think is the ANC
@@Bushbaby1977 Namibia is the land of the African indigenous people. Let them govern as they see fit. One love to my fellow Khoekhoe, San and Bakgalagadi in the Kalahari. Remmogo. We are one 🇳🇦 🇧🇼 🇿🇦
@@thenativeconservationist I am Namibian, born and raised. I love my country and always felt save until a few weeks ago. Our Regional Councillor thought it necessary to call me a f£_&ing white wh+re for no reason at all. I wanted to open a case at the police and was warned that he is dangerous and will put a price on my head. Needless to say I don't feel save anymore.
That's for the very same reason I was opened to traveling to Europe lol, but now I'm also partially reconsidering those thoughts. I feel rather differently about it coz I like my country 😅
@sibonisoteejayz9651 I can tell you, South Africa will always be the best. But there's nothing wrong with having a five year plan, decide to go overseas, make money, grow your skills in Europe and come back to SA a more knowledgeable, mature and wealthy person 😊 of course I don't know your situation but I think it is worth it.
My sis jus relocated to Germany 🇩🇪, she stays in a tiny studio apartment, food and weather not tht great. Gave up the Sandton lifestyle complete with morning jogs, Virgin Active gym membership, alas...to go sit alone in a flat, cos its too cold to go outside. 😅
@@Kaytlin_ you are wise and I like that. I've got this. However, let's just wait and see how everything else goes you know. Which part of the Country you in?
I love South Africa and we are very fortunate to be able to enjoy the best of both worlds. We live in the UK for part of the year, earning pounds and then we enjoy SA for a few months a year.
I have a young son,one positive thing that happened during covid....my son is working from home for a good company in the UK,they sometimes rent youngsters with talent cause we are cheap labour for them to us we earn a good salary, his wife has her own buisness, there is lots in money in education, if I was a black person that could speak indigenous languages I would role in money,I would translate a few educational books from English to say zulu,,I would sell them or give exstara classes to kids in their own indigenous area,a few months I will be so busy I wount cope
@@sahiphopNETWORK if I was a zulu area for excample, I would translate the English educational books in Zulu and offer them to Zulu kids to buy it from me,it will sell like sweet cake,in the beginning like all businesses you will have to make name for yourself, but we all know that kids that get educated on their mother tongue especially in primary school ,have far higher marks than the ones getting taught in English,if I was a teacher in a zulu school I would advise everyone to buy books from you
Given the precipitous state of "The West" at the moment, I wouldn't know where I would want to be in that darkening mess. Not that I'm happy with what we have to deal here of course. At least we are slowly learning how to insulate ourselves from the source of our problems as much as we can. Maybe the good people of Orania are showing us the way?
@@BigJFindAWaythere lies the problem, Afrikaans on towns yesterday, Xhosa today, Sotho tomorrow, etc. We cannot encourage this madness! We need working government, finish and klaar.
Many expats have earned a fortune in foreign currency and in rand terms they are all multimilionaires. Everything, especially property is a lot cheaper in South Africa. Most of those returning are pensioners, who are unable to retire in the foreign countries.
Very true - we thought of it as we love Africa and adventure, but modern SA is just too complicated; just selling our UK 2 bedroom holiday cottage would have given us R8.5m to spend....
Very true, my aunt has just turned 62 years in Feb. She worked in Ireland as a nurse since 2001 and herself and her Irish husband are moving to SA for good in July. They sold everything in Ireland, including their house. She has said it so many times over the years that once she turned 60, she would be back in SA😂
Pensioners are better off in UK they look after them better, I never managed to buy a house in UK as firstly I couldn't get a bond being self employed and you need to have 2 of you working. Things are expensive here renting a house minimum R22000 a month people don't earn a fortune here
Where in the world is it safe these days? The world has changed for the worst since "2004". People are really struggling with all the negative propaganda constantly fed to them.
Make yourself feel better with that statement. There are places, you just have to be prepared to give up your 300m2 house in the burbs and the big badge car ... and the weather!
If you're including the UK & Europe in your safety comments you are highly misinformed. I moved to the UK in 1990, work in London and live in Surrey - crime that impacts you is virtually non existent. If you happen to live in the very few ethnic, gang areas then perhaps look out but no S African I know would ever need to be anywhere near those areas.
I moved to NZ and it’s much safer. My wife can go for a jog at 9 o’clock at night and I wouldn’t blink an eye. I leave my sliding door open every day for our small dog. Nz is expensive but inflation has increased all over, including SA. Even will it being more expensive over here I’m still better off here financially than I was in SA. I really could not deal with the inefficiency and clown government in RSA. I still love the Bokke and miss family but I don’t doubt the move one bit. Met so many Saffas over here and have a braai almost every weekend. I will say it’s not for everyone, so do your homework. Personally, best decision ever
Yeah, you have the right approach, it's tough but so worth it, I'm here in Ireland and it's been the best move ever. No BEE kak so they appreciate your skills etc. You mentioned a very good point that folks don't understand, we don't have to be worried about our families here, they have more freedom to live their best life. In bananaland you need to be a ninja to go to the shops, screw that. I want peace and peace of mind that I'm safe above all things, that constant nagging hair on the back of my neck when I lived in ZA has gone away, I sleep well at night, don't even own an alarm here... This one thing is worth loads more than anything ZA can offer, and I love your point about nothing works in 🍌 land... It's all stuffed up, you get so used to it in za that you accept everything coz you don't have a choice, just sit and take incompetence. None of that crap here, it all works a thousand times better, not perfect but I'll take what we have here. Thanks for sharing your POV
New Zealand is woke as sht. Goodluck. You'll soon be living in an open prison😂 Why did you leave? You scared of a little rough and tough play. Cupcake 😂
I lived abroad in Europe and Asia for 8 years and finally returned home after the pandemic. There is simply nothing like home. Despite all its problem I can forget all about them because of the weather, food, vibeant culture and stunning landscape.
I'm coming back to SA but not because things were not as they seemed in the USA. I live a good life here, income is great, I don't lock my house, even when I go out. People are friendly and welcoming here. The thing I really miss in SA, is the culture. You don't realize how different the sense of humour is in another culture. I am surrounded by good people but still feel lonely, we have the same ancestors but have not much in common. Having dopey Biden for a President also doesn't help.
I know exactly what you mean there is something about South Africa that I only appreciated living in Europe. A zest for life no matter what income level. It cant be coincidence its cradle of humankind and animalkind. Theres a magical force here. With a good govt its Eden ❤
😂 Are you tip toeing around who to call him/her😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 you can't just come and go as you please. We don't need weakness. Stay there and enjoy your non binary life
Lasted 3 years in the UK before coming home. Despite all the issues we face in SA I can honestly say that life in SA is far better than that in the UK.
If I compare the Australia of 2004 with the Australia now I think it has become harder to make a living. Yet , things are still functioning well , but life has become more difficult generally, like almost everywhere.
@@anjieismyname Yes , harder , like in most Western countries. But , compare South Africa from 2004 to the present and you cry. Devastation of many things that make a country functioning.
@@witsend008 Do you think it's worth it still going over to Australia for one's children's future if given the chance, especially when one thinks for future jobs prospects for them in SA and BBBEEE etc? And then to have dual citizenship which would be a good thing ito having options.
@@anjieismynameyes, it still is worth it. Come to Perth. It is a great, safe and easy city. If you are in the trades, or mining, you will lead a great life.
@@anjieismyname This depends on the age of your children , your own age , your financial resources and the earning capacity your family will / might have in Australia. It also depends where in the RSA you live in the moment, as well if your family fits into the niche that are eligible to immigrate into Australia.
When I tell people that I wouldn’t relocate they think I don’t want to broaden my horizons and it’s not about that. I love SA so much that I don’t feel the need or urge to stay in another country.
Seeing as most "Africans" are hell bent on moving South. Perhaps we should all move North! It must be empty up there? Well at least devoid of criminals as they're all in SA!
We are returning this year after 24 years in Europe and Asia. Our chief reason for making the move was economic since we were concerned about the inability to generate a comfortable retirement pot in SA (and to be honest we yearned for a bit of adventure). Solid overseas pensions gives us the means to enjoy our nether years 'back home' with plenty of travel. I suspect many of the returning Saffers are in a similar situation.
@@rustenburghhb5281 I think 🤔 U are an educated fool my dear. I don't want to be fed propaganda written by those newspapers U talk about. The fact is Europe is burning and America is declining with it's dollar, of which is good news for world 🌍. We are living in the changing age of Geo politics, which is going to bring real freedom to Africa. If you don't know this, it's mean U are real educated fool. Thank u
Gosh I never comment on UA-cam. This is my second comment ever but this topic is an important one for me. In 2008 I was working for a South African red bank that merged with a UK blue bank. So many South African who ran away from the country saying it was going down took that opportunity to find jobs within the red bank (having been within the UK blue bank at the time of course). What was greatly unfortunate though is they were not at all positive about the country. Almost every day all day I had to listen to some of them trash talking the country. One day I actually asked one of them why he came back because he had nothing good to say about the country. Turned out it was the only cheap place that he had to raise a family on a single income, as the wife was a full time mom and they wanted to keep it that way. For me having such people come back does not help at all. They come back with a more divisive then building mentality. They're coming back to be islands and not to help build. South Africa doesn't need such. We need a meeting of minds (hopefully someday hearts too) to build one beautiful country and passionate nation.
Regardless of our county's own problems and non existent leaders it is still lekker to live in the beautiful Western Cape! What most people fail to realise is, or choose to ignore, is the fact that things are getting worse and worse by the day in every single country in the world. We're living in very dark times and it is only going to become worse. However, it is exciting times we're living in because we were forewarned of these very times thousands of years ago.
As a Brit, I worked in SA in the 80's and early 90's. When I returned to the UK, I took home some fantastic memories .. as well as a fantastic SA (Xhosa) wife. We still live in NE England, but have to agree, some parts of this country are now heading downwards at quite a rate of knots. It would still be very very unlikely that we would return to SA .. but, you never know !
I just hope that you guys didn't deprive your children from visiting SA and connecting with their African roots just as they're connected with their English roots because that'd be very selfish of you guys. One day they might want to move back to SA, only to feel left out as Africans simply because you guys wouldn't have exposed them to the African culture from a young age... Can they even speak basic Xhosa?
@@joniemanwhat's that got to do with a second passport? You can get a second passport and still go home for your "mental health" sounds like you've been in Europe for too long
I am currently in the process of coming back home from Australia! I have been here since 2005 and no matter how bad SA is it is far better than being in a foreign culture.
You'll soon remember why you left. Good luck getting a job in BEE companies. Enjoy loadshedding. Enjoy watching over your back. Best thing I did was leave SA
There is no place like home ,living your friends, family ,good weather, South Africa good food behind is not good thing .I lived in Scotland for 8 years at 1st I was excited to live in country where there is less crime ,job opportunities and 1st world country. UK weather is shit ,if you want to raise you kids well UK is not the place .South Africa is great country with bad politicians far better than UK .We need to fix this country for all South Africans to enjoy .South Africa is like gold ready to be discovered
Yup true I grew up in U.K this country , this place has no sense of community and its not child friendly the education system sucks . Passing a child from kne grade to the next they don't know anything
I moved to the UK in 1990 as an accountant. London is still a great city for the areas one goes to and is safe. Europe is significantly safer than SA. A well qualified immigrant will do much better in the uk and the life is good. Wokeness is an European issue and is diminishing western living for sure. SA remains a remarkable country in my mind and I did consider retiring at least for a period there but the ANC is really destroying the fabric and is an unstable risk in so many areas that we canned the idea. Still visit though. Crime in SA is 20x that of the uk and where I live in Surrey violent crime is almost non existent.
Very true. Within a 10 km radius of my premises, I have everything; shops, supermarkets, restaurants.I have not been to the city centres of Pretoria/Johannesburg for 10+ years.
Are those who are returning to South Africa from (mainly) England, more of a white skin colour of more of a black skin colour. Do they publish those demographics or is it not allowed?
Good point, there were a lot of black professionals leaving. I reckon they are thinking I have European experience on my CV time to head back for a nice job back in South Africa.
@@Amanzi379 most people returning are whytes...they cant compete with their mates...they will tell you that europe is better, but they struggle to make a decent living there....and they cant steal any land there....or benefit from cheap labour....
Even the English are running from the Uk 🇬🇧 mate . Not just South Africans even Indians that lived for generations in Uk are going back to India and say they had enough.
As someone who left SA 7 years ago, and have lived in 2 countries and visited many others, I think the pull of SA multfaceted. Firstly, home is home and will always be home no matter where you are in teh world. Secondly, there is great weather and lots of things to do and see in SA that you just can't see or do in other countries. Thirdly, there is definitely an energy, a vibe, a something that is in SA that makes you feel like you can't find a place like it anywhere else in the world. Of course, you can settle anywhere else in the world, any be happier elsewhere, but SA will always hold that special appeal in your heart, regardless of how it is getting worse.
Europe and the UK are terrible, cant wait to come home, but ill be doing it with my Pounds.....You are 100% correct about the nature of Europe/Uk, government wants to regulate your life into a box, standard living is terrible and it will cost you a fortune for that. You can tell why our ancestors packed up and left uk/Europe, there is just no growth for people, you are locked into your social class structure and never allowed out unless it is down.....
@@Amanzi379 ill be spending them on passive income investments that make me more money, besides i will be leaving assests behind that generate me pounds and euros all the time.
What were they thinking leaving in the first place when most of them have only known SA as their home and have no ties with Europe? I'm a black South African and I refuse to let the past of my country define me... I love everyone of all Colour, black, brown, white, and yellow... And if I'm to be honest, I can't imagine SA without white South Africans. You guys shouldn't take whatever negative things being said about you by black South Africans seriously because most of us have no issues with you, just because we're silent, it doesn't mean we have issues... Like the former president Thabo Mbeki said, " The land belongs to those who work in it".
I moved to Poland in January 2020, on a Polish passport speaking the language. I am doing very well. I live in a larger city, and I feel safe. I had an opportunity to visit Berlin (Germany) for a work assignment. I hated that German city! I saw 3 police actions, one burned out car... I was so happy when I crossed back into Poland. South Africa? Load-shedding no thanks. Water shedding: no thanks. Bad roads? no thanks.
What about the job reservation for blacks only BBEEE. This is restricting jobs for whites (unless they work privately) to almost being unable to find a job here! Just look around....
Been following. Look at world events and South Africa's events as well. Israel linked to Siener's prophecy (and Russia). The pivotal elections this year. The grid falling apart. The darkest hours are still to come but then......... The sun will rise in South Africa and the REAL New Dawn will arrive. I said in 2017 no new dawn here because a bunch of communist thieves just changed face. That fool Ramaphosa tricked so many people but not me because it simply didn't look right. Literally the only thing that can provide an insight into the future is Siener Van Rensburg.
@@franchellevanheerden Siener van Rensberg. SAfs seem to be losing all notion of their history and that's sad. I hope you know about the war and concentration camps of 1899-1902, especially with an Afrikaans surname.
Both Siener and Johanna Brandt's prophecies agreed on how it would play out. We've been prepared for over 100yrs for what is to come but BOTH of them warned that only the humble of heart would believe them while the proud would reject their divinely inspired predictions. So far both of them are quite correct with their predictions. I'm glad you mentioned it. I've researched the "Phoenix Phenomena" which is a repetitive 138yr reset pattern set into chronology for over 5000yrs yet hidden by mainstream history especially since 1902. Both Brandt's and V.Rensburg's predictions align perfectly with it. It's all very encouraging & everything points to South Africa being the epicenter and start of the next Phoenix Event in 2040 too.
IF these figures are to be trusted, I doubt it very much that the majority who have settled in Australia, Canada and N.Zealand would consider returning - most left because of the economic discrimination that AA and BBBEE brought - S.A can't be a viable option for them and especially their children to come back to.
Dudes the number 1 issue in SA is safety. I wish I could come back, desperate even but I can’t justify it if something happens to my young son or wife or even myself for that matter. There are too many goons running around SA! Nowhere is safe. I must also challenge you guys on the notion that we that have emigrated or somehow misinformed. Typically the people that leave SA are skilled labour very smart very savvy (generalising here) they have the means to leave and other countries are more than happy to take on the virtue of their skills and resources. What I’m saying is we are not naive we know what we are doing. I live in complete safety in England I leave my windows and doors wide open (for 3 weeks a year😂) and unlocked all year around. I am somewhat prosperous here but I just can’t stand the bureaucracy and the lifestyle is utter dog shit from a SA perspective. Maslows hierarchy of needs gents safety is one of those things that I get here that I cannot get in SA and this is the main issue I have. Literally if SA were to sort this shit out I would move back in a heart beat.
That's great for some, but for others it cannot even be a consideration anymore. Starting over in another country with this exchange rate means I will never be in the same position financially again. SAs a shithole, but it's our shithole and we just have to make the best of it.
If you can afford an expensive place to live in SA you good..but that price is not attainable for the normal person. The rest live in brakpan or somewhere like Durban where things are KAK. I had know water for 3 days during the strikes, some have had no water for 7 days and my garbage has not been taken in 3 weeks.So anywhere overseas is better than those places. Plus if you want to anything with your life besides a dumb office job SA is not the place. Try be an artist, musician in SA..hmm. @@MorningShot
@@danielschauffer8216 being street smart is not something you can teach someone. It's a situational awareness thing that someone either instinctively has or hasn't. Without that street smart that we SAns have learned over the years, you wouldn't survive for long.
Back from visiting my daughter in the Netherlands-lovely people, lifestyle- safe and secure- any time of day! Back in beautiful Cape Town, the focus returns to loadshedding and political nonsens. I once walked a dog named Joey, in Amsterdamse Bos❤
I visited South Africa last year, and your on point about finding a place to live off grid in SA. I stayed in the Johannesburg suburb of Parkhurst which is very clean, safe, integrated and like suburban American. The community is also close knit with its own private security. Parkhurst was heaven to me as an African American where I could never find and afford to experience a community like that. There's also other nice communities around the Joburg metro such as Faerie Glenn & Rosebank. SA has it's problems like loadshedding, and now water. But the infrastructure is still on par & often times better than in the US...no exaggeration. So being off the grid can work
We don't really have a water problem. We'll at least where I live in the East of Joburg, We always have water all year round. If there is gonna be a water cut due to maintenance, they let us know. Water problem is not a national problem, but rather an area or regional issue.
The number of company & individual tax payers - is DECREASING. So I am not convinced there is a net influx of migrants, on balance. I call BS. But maybe I am wrong.
So many countries in Europe, the West, New Zealand and Australia have all had a decline in the past 20 years, some more than others obviously. An aquaintence in the U. S. was asking the question as to why certain professional salaries, ie Engineers, Teachers, lecturers etc have in fact dropped nearly 50% in the past 20 years. The world is going to shit on a grand scale.
Absolutely, my friend left for the US in 1994 and has moved back now. According to this friend, the US is a💩show, and would rather deal with Eskom! I am Irish and was due to leave just after Covid happened, when Covid hit and what went on accross the world, I decided that I am never leaving. For 2 reasons, rather the 💩I know than the 💩I don't and my people are here and they matter more than anything, which I realised moreso in the pandemic. Now the place where I was to live in Ireland has got huge migrant issues and the government is no longer for the Irish citizens at all. My friends there are very unhappy in Ireland. My feeling is that even though Ramaphosa is a WEF puppet, South Africa is the best option for me with what's going on in the world.
The winds of change show me that you are better off moving to countries bordering South Africa than South Africa now coz in south Africa 💩 can hit the fan anytime 😂
The west need legal or illegal immigration because the way things are moving its heading into a world war 3. Sleepy Joe is allowing young adult males over the border and the rest of Europe is doing the same just incase they need people because no British youngster is going to volunteer for war . I say better the 💩you know and can still mask with something than diarrhoea that you can't control
I agree people that who moved to London generally move back to SA due to affordability. Many SAFFAS that moved to the North of the UK are living their best lives.
Are more people returning than are leaving? It's like a bucket with a leak: if it leaks faster than you can fill it, it will eventually be empty or close enough to empty that it doesn't make a difference.
I think the article said 30% are returning. The means 70% are staying overseas. Does not mention if the returning are staying permanently. About half the people I know who returned in the past few years have already left South Africa again. Many people come back because of work visa issues and not a deep desire to return to South Africa.
I am wondering what about black South Africans, do they have the same experiences .. personally I think most white South Africans live the highest standard of living compared to blacks in SA.. so for blacks UK might be better than SA
I know that my sister in New Zealand will move back to South Africa at the drop of a hat, if she can convince her husband and children to also move back!
Brother stabbed a few months ago in rural UK and was making virtually no money due to the high cost of living. He's on a plane next month back home. He's sick of that kak. He sure as hell is going nowhere now no matter what happens because he woke up to the fact one can get killed anywhere. Funnily not mugged once in South Africa let alone stabbed. So many people make out like these places are paradises. We Africans and know how to deal with the crime here. Hence why he was stabbed there and not ONCE here..... So now you do know someone coming home for good this time
There's no such thing as "no long term hope for South Africa". Rather, it is you personally who has lost hope. People who have hope in their hearts see the opportunity in SA. Those who've lost hope are blind to it.
@@whenwe9168 Recently, I listened to a speech by Christo Wiese, the man who, along with Whitey Basson, built Shoprite. The speech was given at a BizNews gathering in Hermanus. In it, Christo quotes Jan Smuts as follows, "South Africa is a country where things are not always as good as they shouls be, and where things are not always as bad as they could be. Despite noting the many challenges facing South Africa, Christo's speech struck a positive tone about South Africa's future and he encouraged the audience to maintain a positive outlook. My mind went back to the number of speeches I have heard Christo give over the years, and it struck me how in all of them, he always maintained a positive outlook and hope for South Africa. It dawned on me, that that is one if the reasons he has been tremendously successful in South Africa, and on the back of his local SA success, he was able to built a gkobal investment conglomerate. That is the character of successful people - they are at their best when things are at their worst. @whewe9168, it is totally within the character of failures like you, to be negative and devoid of hope for SA. May you find suceess there at those distant shores. You couldn't make it in SA - fair thee well gentle Sir!
@@whenwe9168 Recently, I listened to a speech given by Christo Wiese, the man who, alongside Whitey Basson, built Shoprite. The speech was given at a BizNews gathering in Hermanus. In it, Christo quotes Jan Smuts as follows, "South Africa is a country where things are not always as good as they should be, and where things are not always as bad as they could be". Having noted the various challenges facing South Africa, Christo's speech struck a positive tone about South Africa's future and he encouraged the audience to maintain a positive outlook. My mind went back to the various addresses I had heard Christo give over the years. It struck me how in all of them, he always maintained a positive outlook and hope for South Africa. It dawned on me that this is one of the reasons he has been tremendously successful in South Africa - he's always at his best even when things are at their worst. Failures like you Sir, are always negative and delight is hearing ofvand spreading bad news about SA. You were a failure in SA and couldn't make the cut. May you find successes in NZ. Fair thee well gentle Sir.
It’s astonishing to me that people are moving back in such substantial numbers despite the Retardanistan government. Could it be that people are sending major change is in the air????
South Africa is very interesting! Just 40 years ago you could be beaten for being outside after 6pm in a specific area, you could be jailed for loving someone , you could be beaten for being on the wrong beach and you could be hanged if your friend told you about a crime they committed. But those things would only happen to you when you were a certain race(black). But interestingly enough some people didn't emigrate out infact we there was an influx into the country. So when you look at it its not the crime thats making them emigrate its that the crime is now affecting everyone equally. This argument still stands for economic reasons, politics, getting jobs etc.... Whites got f*ckd by 1 government but us normal low level blacks we got f*ckd by 2 governments.
My daughter and son-in-law moved to Australia about 10 years ago. They say that they won't be moving back to South Africa any time soon. There are expatriates that are very happy in Australia.
They have already made enough money to purchase a home and send their children to our schools in South Africa. Most of their goals are not to live there but to make money there
Mmm. I don’t know. There are more and more South Africans that I deal with every day in all walks of life here in Aus. There are definitely more and definitely not fewer. Can’t speak for the moves into and out of the UK though.
Yeah reading all these comments, it sounds like those moving back are from the UK or colder climates. We are in Aus and the standard of living is incredible - my children have so much freedom. I do worry about them growing up entitled and lacking resilience (you know, first world problems aren’t actually problems).. but we visit home often and I hope to instil care for others and resilience in them, without growing up in the fear and trauma that most South Africa’s carry around with us as ‘normal’ expectations of life. It’s actually pretty toxic when you are removed from it
They tell you that you'll earn in pounds, you'll sit down and do conversions to Rands and be like "OMG I'm leaving" ....and then you'll get there and spend in Pounds not Rands 💀
@@lukeherbst7931 the fact is how can you save money if the cost of living there is high ? If people who were born there can't even save what makes you think it's so easy for expats ? Just because it's pounds doesn't make it easy to save
@@JOEYZ-nq2gn the fact is how are you not saving even a single pound every week? And if you can't, why? Where are you spending the money? Because then just like in SA you need to make sacrifices, except your money still goes much much further
When this sh*t between Russia and Europe starts hitting the fan, I would rather be living in Soweto, South Africa. By the way why has almost 25% of UN staff in New York relocated to Nairobi?🤔
@@jonieman what does your latte pumpkin spice cappuccino have to do with safety? No, I am referring to the obvious rural safety problems we have here in SA on a regular basis, such as home invasions and farm attacks where people get hacked with machetes, raped, have boiling water thrown over them or poured down their throats, get ironed with hot irons, have their children thrown into bath tubs with boiling water, are suffocated by having plastic packets tied over their heads, and lastly, also get shot. Where do you live that you know about a latte pumpkin spice cappuccino, which by the way I have never even heard of before, despite your unhinged accusations?
Not true, My folks are off grid and super safe (Rural KZN - Byrne Vallley, Richmond) The people in Byrne do all their own own armed security, guard patrols, cheap clean water, solar power, grow their own food or get from local farmers eggs, milk, meat, veg good cell/internet connection etc.
Well its not as simple as that. My woodworking factory was looted and burnt to the ground in Krugersdorp in January2018. I lost my building ,tools and my livelihood. At a white male who would employ me and pay me a living wage? No chance! Not with affirmative action in place. Fortunately for me 3 months earlier our visa to move to Western Australia was approved and we left 6 years ago. But here's the kicker ... within 3 months I was offered a job at the age of 68. Imagine that happening in SA, Never. I miss SA because it was my home but I don't miss the state its in at this point. No infrastructure like railways ,hospitals, no postal service, no police not to speak of Eskom or the failing water supply. The only roads that are in intact are national HI ways, I know I visited in 2022 and toured the country doing 6000KM. Living in SA you adapt and get used to everything that's lousy. Yes Australia has its faults if you want to call them that but don't underestimate the freedom to walk to a nearby park, or magnificent beach that never looks like the south coast. Catch a train to the city where you can hop on and off a tour bus at no cost. They are called Cat busses. Yes I would come back if the country returned to its former glory. That's not likely in my lifetime sadly.
Mistakes do happen. Who thought war will errupt in Europe. Although we want real South Africans back, a person need survive. So I can"t blame you. Parties will come and go. Thank you for your wonderful comment. South Africans over reacted on the freedom they got and were carried away. In S.A. we have an influx of foreigh illegal immigrants and they bring a lot of crime. Me as a black South African, I do understand you. We need to come back to the drawing board and if it needs be we must change the rulling party in order to take us back to our glory. I am 59years old and own my own bussines at least and not in tendering. You were very fortunate brother to get another job and which you were not going to be employed in S.A. The west Africans plus corruption is ruining our country. I admire your straightforwardnes.
People having left in 2004 and coming back in 2024 because its not the same, Trust South Africa to be that place that is still the same over 20 year or better yet regarding public services and basic immensities, SA has actually gone so far back in time that its rural.
Guys, I am happy that white South African are coming back, heck anyone coming to SA for good reasons, I am happy. We need all the effort to keep this SAn ship from sinking like the others.
I think one should remember to "never say never". The big problem in the EU, Great Britain and the USA is unrestrained migration, the war on Ukraine which has skyrocketed EU energy prices and for the USA unrestrained deficit spending. This being said South Africa is a very dangerous place, with lots and lots and lots ..................... of other problems. Thus it is a individual choice to move or stay. One thing that is worrisome is the talk about conscription in Europe. The winds of war are blowing and that will make Europe really bad.
Your phone will be stolen out of your butt crack, you will be taxed and you'll be the looney on the streets of braamfontein without a job but at least the weather will be good.
You shouldn't believe everything you hear or comment on something that never happened to you people are walking around with their cellphones visibly but you are welcome to hide yours...
South Africa is a horror story. Once you have lived it, it has a strange grip on you. Repulsive yet exciting. Like a bad relationship you cant let go of. Estate agents shouldnt trusted.
There are white and black people who live well in S.A. They don't say anything because life for them is good. The Ruppets, Ackermans, Motsepes and others are doing well in S.A. In Stellenboch town that's were most are. Most people can't accept that S.A. is now multicultural. The South Africa of yesterday is not a South Africa of today. Although our crime rate is geographical, there are places that does experience high crime because of overpopulation. I do understand what you say. After South Africa got its freedom, others got carried away especially the ruling party because instead of focussing on the livelyhood of the vulnerable people, they focussed on themselves. South Africa is the most unequal country in the world, where the rich are more richer and the poor poorer. But I like this platform because it makes us realize the real truth. I think in this coming election, things will get better and I see cuolition governing as the answere.
How fortunate I am. My husband is British I'm South African and we have 2 homes in both continents! 6 summer months here in Cape Town and 6 summer months in Norfolk. 🤗
I find that really hard to believe I know at least 50 people that emigrated and not one of them want to come back to this shit hole, I cant wait to get out of here
I'm just worried that SA is going to be expensive to live in because of all the foreigners who are also flooding in to stay. It's becoming too popular. All the foreign Tiktokers etc. are encouraging people to move here because it's great and cheap. It's not good for regular locals.
I worked 4 months in South Africa in 2007. I’m Swedish. SA will always have a place in my heart. The people I met changed me so much. Amazing people. Hard to explain.
Thank you so much
You too will always have a space in our hearts as South Africans. There have been always people whom South Africans mended and the sweeds are one of those. The sweeds have always been a Gem stone to us.
Beware of rape.
The negative people will not change our view which is positive obout us South Africans. Crime is everywhere. The don't wanna tell us about a criminal gang that is now ranging in U.K. but our friends tells us about those ugly people operating there. They don't wanna tell us about those hooligans. They behave as if U.K. is safe and we in S.A its all about crime. The liers have been exposed.
@@ianmiles2505 - Rape rate (reported rapes per 100,000 inhabitants):
🇬🇧 UK: 257
🇸🇪 Sweden: 190
🇮🇸 Iceland: 142
🇳🇿 New Zealand: 126
🇳🇴 Norway: 106
🇦🇺 Australia: 101
🇨🇦 Canada: 95
🇿🇦 South Africa: 88
🇩🇰 Denmark: 83
🇧🇪 Belgium: 72
I think he is ready for South Africa.
@@ianmiles2505 You will never succeed by scarring other people. There is gang that is a nuisance in Europe even Putin and Israel are destabilising Europe.
They don't want to hang their dirty linens. African Americans are coming in drones in South Africa unlike the gun laws that is ravaging our brothers over there in the USA .
Because they were stolen in Africa for them is a breather coming back.You blew our crime into propotion. If you dont like South Africa just pack your bags and go or stay there in the west.
9We in South Africa are O.K. and and we are home. You too go to your home were you can be treated like being in honeymoon. We are tired of people like you.
I wish people would understand that London is not UK. I swear people that visit England spent the whole time in London and believe the whole country is the same. Just like Jhb is not South Africa.
This is very true. There are some lovely places in the UK. But there are alot of great places in Europe. I loved living in Budapest. An amazing city and very safe. Much better than anything I've experienced in SA.
So very true. London is the capital. They clearly are not well travelled. London is way overcrowded.
No one thinks JHB is SA
Yes whatever. The UK will be muslim dominated in 15 years
@@Sifisomabanga That is EXACTLY the point jamesramsey is making. The largest, and capital city of the UK is completely different from every other part of the country. Just like someone from SA knows JHB is not representative of their nation. However, many visitors from abroad only ever see London, and believe that is what England, or even Great Britain consists of. Like visiting USA - is America New York City, or is America Disneyland.
I came home too from Australia. I love Africa too much, it is in my blood! God bless Africa! God bless South Africa and ALL our beautiful people!
I am thinking of returning too from Oz. How are you finding it there now ? Which province are you in ?
It's tough bro, but it's home! I'm happy here, it is where I belong. Experiencing RWC 2023 at home was such a blessing. Come home. Gauteng
@@jpgous675 Glad you are happier, yep tough but everywhere is getting that way now. You have to leave SA to realise what you have...the bad and good. All the best. I am working at coming home, hopefully soon.
@@61sunset Thanks bud. And good luck with all your plans. We'll see you soon :)
Welcome back and thanks👏 for coming home ....👏
So agree with the "off grid" view, Ramon. What we have is so special. And no where is safe anymore. Thanks for the talk, guys.
Home is where the heart is❤
Perfectly said. So what if UK or where ever is sold as utopia. My family are in SA and it never feels bad when I know they are a 20min drive away. Stuff immigration. I am staying right here, water or no water. Eskom or Eksdom..staying!
❤ons maak plek ❤
netherlands
We welcome u don't fear anything there's no terrorist in our country come back to your country Mandela have saided long time ago.
I offer take long walks to the mall and back which in total is 1+1/2 hrs.
After attending the Church and spending a couple hrs in mall then venturing back home , it's like Heaven just to arrive 🏠 and enjoy the stillness and tranquility in my comfort zone.
😇🇿🇦🇮🇱.
correction: offer should read "often"
South African is the best country, we must just get rid of the corrupt government.
😂 You mean we need educated people at government level. No brainer
💯 true.... May 29th is our d-day as a country.... its basically our 1994 moment
💯 correct
You must also stop racism.we know you better here ,so try to change the way you treat blacks if you truely need to govern this country
@@JusticeJabulileNgomane-gv2vsyou first!
New Zealand isn't that safe anymore either, we moved here 10 years ago, and it was a hole lot safer, but now, gangs are everywhere, shootings, murders etc., just now Sunday, the shops not far from my house was a gang shooting, a week before then further up the road, got ram raided as they all it here, and the cops legally cant do shit really, because of diversity crap. if i didn't have my family here, i would move back tomorrow.
side note, the weather here is quite kak.
That's in the north of north Island only. South Island is very safe.
Weather may be Kak. But that Kak weather keeps the undesirables away.
Where do you live? CHCH or Auckland?
Those stories wouldn't even make the news here!
I've heard it said many times , that if they could return to SA they would . It's easier to leave , than to return .
Reality hits and they realise, the grass is not greener on the other side .
Average household debt-to-income ratio in Australia is over 200%, and most of that debt is housing loan.
It costs a helluva lot more to access housing in Australia than in South Africa.
The grass is not always greener on the other side.
Regardless of all our political BS,South Africa is still the best.Where can you get so many friendly,maak n plan people of all race in one place
I’m coming back next year boys and can’t wait (lived in Europe and now in the Middle East) - see you soon 🇿🇦
If you ever want an interview or chat let me know, I’m a lawyer for a major international energy company and I think we’ll have an interesting discussion 👍
Whites need to behave if they're gonna be back
Would love to hear what this boet has to say 🔥
Why are you returning?
@@balsak007how you wd love to know, why don't you come out talk about how a cesspool South Africa is😂
You be out of work in the energy section in SA😂😂
As a real estate agent, we are finding African Americans are also moving to South Africa. Not just Cape Town as well
wonderful thanx for the info.👏
I don't want them here. I know they will be rabid ANC and EFF supporters.
Seen all the YT videos on it. Seems like a growing trend just based on that metric
@@gino4tune Yeah man its nice to see
Yeah I noticed that on YT, there's an influx of African Americans coming here, not just them but white Americans too. I'm no Nostredamus but I have a feeling South Africa is the next world superpower
Whether in SA or Europe, making a living is tough. However, in EU it’s minus the crime , load shedding, BEE, crumbling infrastructure, etc.. Load shedding & crime have all but ended family social activities after dark in SA. South Africans seem oblivious to the heavy stresses that these issues create, to the extent that this abnormal burden is considered ‘normal’ living in SA. South Africans need to unshackle themselves from this burden, instead of pretending that the antidote is sunny skies & a braai.
Spot on I rather starve and b safe than b a prisoner cant even teach children independence as one worries about safety all the time not to mention cat calling and just general disrespect and then this loadshedding and water cuts will never miss SA its a nightmare fast becoming like the US
Your comment ought to begin with "for some", cause this opinion is devoid of facts. For most Africans residing in South Africa, not having access to electricity and running water IS NOT NEW.
We grew up having to buy coal from a horse and cart and parafin became so popular, we utilized it to remedy other ill in the society we were forced into.
Currently, our major cities have seen an uptake in new night spots, bars and night clubs. The nightlife even spawned 'Maboneng' as a hub for owls.
It is amazing that some will at economic empowerment as an obstacle not a tool to regress the decisions of the 'not so wise men in that room', who thought it would be prudent to constitutionally oppress people because of race.
Yet, when a dunderhead party leader shouts taking land back without compensation, it suddenly seems unfair to some. We will never have peace in this country if we don't right the wrongs, period. Ignorance of the state of this nation prior 1994 is not an excuse.
The western countries' will fool most with propaganda and media suppression. Just like reporting during the pandemic, we have countries who intentionally are economic with their stats, and yet shout how dangerous RSA is, highest murder rate, most rapes, highest corruption, you name it were are there.
So, when Mexico list a top 20 most dangerous areas to live in, and we can only find Cape province, yes the same in which Cape Town that ranks 1st or 2nd in a UK based publication, as the best city to live in. We have even cracked the mass shooting phenomenon that some are grappling with.
We even have celebrated individuals calling our gov as the worst on the planet, I'm keen to see how are comparatively to other countries he has resided in, and the number of 'em, especially the per capita brakedown indication which areas of affirmation leaves us statistically to be worse that Zim, the UK, the States, Haiti, Korea, no! the other one, Australia...I mean should I go on?
If you can afford to emigrate, you can afford to put in solar, a water tank and decent security.
We have more freedom. If you are ok with watching tv and nonsense like that then europe will be ok. And WW3 is basically there as we speak.
For example suicides in England and Wales. In 2022, 5,642 suicides were registered in England and Wales.
A total of 8.6 million patients in England were prescribed antidepressants in 2022-23, with the amount having almost doubled since 2011, according to the NHS.
Let me see, in terms of mental health I would rather have blue skies and braai than artificial serotonin uptake.
My sister moved back from Ireland... The weather and the environment she says was terrible. People swear like it's normal and says they have serious issues there in the UK as well but she prefers South African problems to their problems....
Irish here, and I know loads of Southampton Africans (my boss is South african). He loves it here.
South Africa is a great country with 30% management that needs to be removed, permanently! 🇿🇦🤡🤌
It's actually 85% that needs to be removed
@@njabulozikhali4966 keep dreaming, boy
Your racist ways will make it difficult for you to stay in SA.....lol...because nobody is removing anybody....you will be governed by black people and there is nothing you can do about it...
I've been in the uk for the past 10 years. Visited last May for 3 weeks and I don't know why I'm here in the uk still. Yes, SA is in a rough state. But the life, the air... there's no chemtrails! The people...
Plus, walking around in Krugersdorp, I didn't feel so alive in a long time. Maybe it was because I had to have my head on a swifel. It's been a while that I had to watch my back.
Only to find, it's not that bad man.
There is no place like home.
come back we need you ....👏
When you said "chemtrails" I knew you were a moron.
Try living under SA's current conditions on a SA salary for a few months with the electrical grid offline for half the time and you'll be begging to get tf out of here
Totsiens👋
no chemtrails.. interesting..
Here for the money definitely not the weather
Being a black South African, i can agree that the country has had it's fair share of problems. But there's a strong feeling amongst some black professionals that the end days for ANC being in power are very close.
Waka wena Thabo tle 😂
And then? Malema?
Lol 😂. Something doesn't add up if you think the EFF will be better or that the ANC will lose. Too many people reliant on their SASSA grants which they think is the ANC
@@Bushbaby1977 Namibia is the land of the African indigenous people. Let them govern as they see fit. One love to my fellow Khoekhoe, San and Bakgalagadi in the Kalahari. Remmogo. We are one 🇳🇦 🇧🇼 🇿🇦
@@thenativeconservationist I am Namibian, born and raised. I love my country and always felt save until a few weeks ago. Our Regional Councillor thought it necessary to call me a f£_&ing white wh+re for no reason at all. I wanted to open a case at the police and was warned that he is dangerous and will put a price on my head. Needless to say I don't feel save anymore.
They must come back here...we need these skilled people desperately. God works in mysterious ways...
Yah but BEE is making it quite difficult to find meaningful work and if they start business they gona get bent over a barrel
Dont forget to tell them to leave racism behind
Roman is spot on, i moved to Germany to make money and grow a nest egg which i will eventually use to go back to SA and be set up financially.
That's for the very same reason I was opened to traveling to Europe lol, but now I'm also partially reconsidering those thoughts. I feel rather differently about it coz I like my country 😅
@sibonisoteejayz9651 I can tell you, South Africa will always be the best. But there's nothing wrong with having a five year plan, decide to go overseas, make money, grow your skills in Europe and come back to SA a more knowledgeable, mature and wealthy person 😊 of course I don't know your situation but I think it is worth it.
My sis jus relocated to Germany 🇩🇪, she stays in a tiny studio apartment, food and weather not tht great. Gave up the Sandton lifestyle complete with morning jogs, Virgin Active gym membership, alas...to go sit alone in a flat, cos its too cold to go outside. 😅
@@Kaytlin_ you are wise and I like that. I've got this. However, let's just wait and see how everything else goes you know. Which part of the Country you in?
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I love South Africa and we are very fortunate to be able to enjoy the best of both worlds. We live in the UK for part of the year, earning pounds and then we enjoy SA for a few months a year.
Great to be rich .😂😂😂😂😂
For young people, it's more difficult to find a job in SA than overseas.
I have a young son,one positive thing that happened during covid....my son is working from home for a good company in the UK,they sometimes rent youngsters with talent cause we are cheap labour for them to us we earn a good salary, his wife has her own buisness, there is lots in money in education, if I was a black person that could speak indigenous languages I would role in money,I would translate a few educational books from English to say zulu,,I would sell them or give exstara classes to kids in their own indigenous area,a few months I will be so busy I wount cope
@@esterveldman4983Plug us then please (which website to apply so I can share with some friends)??? Thanks in advance ❤❤❤❤❤
@@Kubeka2u got the plug?
@@esterveldman4983 what do mean when you say sell them... in their own indigenous area
@@sahiphopNETWORK if I was a zulu area for excample, I would translate the English educational books in Zulu and offer them to Zulu kids to buy it from me,it will sell like sweet cake,in the beginning like all businesses you will have to make name for yourself, but we all know that kids that get educated on their mother tongue especially in primary school ,have far higher marks than the ones getting taught in English,if I was a teacher in a zulu school I would advise everyone to buy books from you
Given the precipitous state of "The West" at the moment, I wouldn't know where I would want to be in that darkening mess. Not that I'm happy with what we have to deal here of course. At least we are slowly learning how to insulate ourselves from the source of our problems as much as we can. Maybe the good people of Orania are showing us the way?
Oranje is certainly unique. More towns and cities shld take their queue from them. Doing amazingly well
Sorry Orania
There actually is a Xhosa town trying to do the same thing as Orania does with Afrikaans. Orania is assisting them.
@@BigJFindAWaythere lies the problem, Afrikaans on towns yesterday, Xhosa today, Sotho tomorrow, etc. We cannot encourage this madness! We need working government, finish and klaar.
@@BigJFindAWayWhich town is this? Any name or online references? Thanks.
Many expats have earned a fortune in foreign currency and in rand terms they are all multimilionaires. Everything, especially property is a lot cheaper in South Africa. Most of those returning are pensioners, who are unable to retire in the foreign countries.
Very true - we thought of it as we love Africa and adventure, but modern SA is just too complicated; just selling our UK 2 bedroom holiday cottage would have given us R8.5m to spend....
@@daw60-gx3fo stay there....
@@daw60-gx3foless mortgage loan. Maybe you'll pocket 2M
Very true, my aunt has just turned 62 years in Feb. She worked in Ireland as a nurse since 2001 and herself and her Irish husband are moving to SA for good in July. They sold everything in Ireland, including their house. She has said it so many times over the years that once she turned 60, she would be back in SA😂
Pensioners are better off in UK they look after them better, I never managed to buy a house in UK as firstly I couldn't get a bond being self employed and you need to have 2 of you working. Things are expensive here renting a house minimum R22000 a month people don't earn a fortune here
Where in the world is it safe these days? The world has changed for the worst since "2004". People are really struggling with all the negative propaganda constantly fed to them.
Make yourself feel better with that statement. There are places, you just have to be prepared to give up your 300m2 house in the burbs and the big badge car ... and the weather!
Just look at the stats most places around the world are safer than South Africa.
If you're including the UK & Europe in your safety comments you are highly misinformed. I moved to the UK in 1990, work in London and live in Surrey - crime that impacts you is virtually non existent. If you happen to live in the very few ethnic, gang areas then perhaps look out but no S African I know would ever need to be anywhere near those areas.
South Africa has collapsed bottom line ...
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The grass is greener on the other side because there is more shit there to fertilise it !!!
I'll have the greener grass anyday
@@jonieman it's not a false sense of freedom when you don't have to live behind high walls and security gates.
Literally you step out of your house in London you’re likely to step on dog shit on the pavement
I moved to NZ and it’s much safer. My wife can go for a jog at 9 o’clock at night and I wouldn’t blink an eye. I leave my sliding door open every day for our small dog. Nz is expensive but inflation has increased all over, including SA. Even will it being more expensive over here I’m still better off here financially than I was in SA. I really could not deal with the inefficiency and clown government in RSA. I still love the Bokke and miss family but I don’t doubt the move one bit. Met so many Saffas over here and have a braai almost every weekend. I will say it’s not for everyone, so do your homework. Personally, best decision ever
Yeah, you have the right approach, it's tough but so worth it, I'm here in Ireland and it's been the best move ever. No BEE kak so they appreciate your skills etc.
You mentioned a very good point that folks don't understand, we don't have to be worried about our families here, they have more freedom to live their best life. In bananaland you need to be a ninja to go to the shops, screw that. I want peace and peace of mind that I'm safe above all things, that constant nagging hair on the back of my neck when I lived in ZA has gone away, I sleep well at night, don't even own an alarm here... This one thing is worth loads more than anything ZA can offer, and I love your point about nothing works in 🍌 land... It's all stuffed up, you get so used to it in za that you accept everything coz you don't have a choice, just sit and take incompetence. None of that crap here, it all works a thousand times better, not perfect but I'll take what we have here. Thanks for sharing your POV
The Māoris will soon become fed up with you.
New Zealand is woke as sht. Goodluck. You'll soon be living in an open prison😂 Why did you leave? You scared of a little rough and tough play. Cupcake 😂
@@AT-gu8bywhy you have to blame my ancestor though?
@@Expat_from_zaLand Well done. Wish I had the money, I'll be gone in a heartbeat.
I lived abroad in Europe and Asia for 8 years and finally returned home after the pandemic. There is simply nothing like home. Despite all its problem I can forget all about them because of the weather, food, vibeant culture and stunning landscape.
I'm coming back to SA but not because things were not as they seemed in the USA. I live a good life here, income is great, I don't lock my house, even when I go out. People are friendly and welcoming here. The thing I really miss in SA, is the culture. You don't realize how different the sense of humour is in another culture. I am surrounded by good people but still feel lonely, we have the same ancestors but have not much in common. Having dopey Biden for a President also doesn't help.
Why what has Biden to you personally?
I know exactly what you mean there is something about South Africa that I only appreciated living in Europe. A zest for life no matter what income level. It cant be coincidence its cradle of humankind and animalkind. Theres a magical force here. With a good govt its Eden ❤
@@Amanzi379 you wouldn't get it. You're welcome to Biden though if a demented old man that sold out to Afghanistan and Iran does it for you.
😂 Are you tip toeing around who to call him/her😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 you can't just come and go as you please. We don't need weakness. Stay there and enjoy your non binary life
@@balsak007 What on earth are you talking about?
Lasted 3 years in the UK before coming home. Despite all the issues we face in SA I can honestly say that life in SA is far better than that in the UK.
If I compare the Australia of 2004 with the Australia now I think it has become harder to make a living. Yet , things are still functioning well , but life has become more difficult generally, like almost everywhere.
Harder in Australia now?
@@anjieismyname Yes , harder , like in most Western countries. But , compare South Africa from 2004 to the present and you cry. Devastation of many things that make a country functioning.
@@witsend008 Do you think it's worth it still going over to Australia for one's children's future if given the chance, especially when one thinks for future jobs prospects for them in SA and BBBEEE etc? And then to have dual citizenship which would be a good thing ito having options.
@@anjieismynameyes, it still is worth it. Come to Perth. It is a great, safe and easy city. If you are in the trades, or mining, you will lead a great life.
@@anjieismyname This depends on the age of your children , your own age , your financial resources and the earning capacity your family will / might have in Australia. It also depends where in the RSA you live in the
moment, as well if your family fits into the niche that are eligible to immigrate into Australia.
Those people are all nearing retirement and coming back to buy their mansion in constantsia.
😂 Do they need your permission to buy the mansion?
When I tell people that I wouldn’t relocate they think I don’t want to broaden my horizons and it’s not about that. I love SA so much that I don’t feel the need or urge to stay in another country.
I’m moving to Zim,hardly any people left there and most of my furniture is there already…
It's interesting that you say that cause I was thinking the same thing.
If I had to move it would be Zimbabwe or Namibia or Botswana
Seeing as most "Africans" are hell bent on moving South. Perhaps we should all move North! It must be empty up there? Well at least devoid of criminals as they're all in SA!
I see what you did there.
Interesting statement, really
@@esterveldman4983: it is wrong.
We are returning this year after 24 years in Europe and Asia. Our chief reason for making the move was economic since we were concerned about the inability to generate a comfortable retirement pot in SA (and to be honest we yearned for a bit of adventure). Solid overseas pensions gives us the means to enjoy our nether years 'back home' with plenty of travel. I suspect many of the returning Saffers are in a similar situation.
Exactly right
Our kids live in Australia for 9 years 100% certain they are not coming back. 😢
Thank ypu, we need that space , pls make sure thy stay there...yoooo what a relief!
@@hlengsmthunzi😂
Good! Y’all should leave soon too! And don’t look back!
@@rikarozayyy4011 you are a bunch of losers you just don't want to admit .
@hlengiwesibiya845 they left the space for you but you couldn't fill it big shoes to fill .you didn't know.
They're coming with racism here, they are forced by the situation that their EUROPE is burning and economicaly declining at a rapid rate😂😂😂
🤣
you're very obviously the fucking racist here mate
Goodness SleepyBowtieCat... get some newspapers and books to read. You are spreading illiteracy!
@@rustenburghhb5281 I think 🤔 U are an educated fool my dear. I don't want to be fed propaganda written by those newspapers U talk about. The fact is Europe is burning and America is declining with it's dollar, of which is good news for world 🌍. We are living in the changing age of Geo politics, which is going to bring real freedom to Africa. If you don't know this, it's mean U are real educated fool. Thank u
Facts, spot on 💯😂😂😂
Gosh I never comment on UA-cam. This is my second comment ever but this topic is an important one for me. In 2008 I was working for a South African red bank that merged with a UK blue bank. So many South African who ran away from the country saying it was going down took that opportunity to find jobs within the red bank (having been within the UK blue bank at the time of course). What was greatly unfortunate though is they were not at all positive about the country. Almost every day all day I had to listen to some of them trash talking the country. One day I actually asked one of them why he came back because he had nothing good to say about the country. Turned out it was the only cheap place that he had to raise a family on a single income, as the wife was a full time mom and they wanted to keep it that way. For me having such people come back does not help at all. They come back with a more divisive then building mentality. They're coming back to be islands and not to help build. South Africa doesn't need such. We need a meeting of minds (hopefully someday hearts too) to build one beautiful country and passionate nation.
Union des africains de tout le continent.
Regardless of our county's own problems and non existent leaders it is still lekker to live in the beautiful Western Cape!
What most people fail to realise is, or choose to ignore, is the fact that things are getting worse and worse by the day in every single country in the world. We're living in very dark times and it is only going to become worse. However, it is exciting times we're living in because we were forewarned of these very times thousands of years ago.
Forewarned lol, by who?
@@RoadkillTheBumperStickersimpsons 😂
@@RoadkillTheBumperSticker Read your Bible.
@61sunset i have, more than once, and more than one "version", pretty disgusting book no matter how they spin it
@@RoadkillTheBumperSticker Only those who cannot understand it would be foolish enough to make that statement.
As a Brit, I worked in SA in the 80's and early 90's.
When I returned to the UK, I took home some fantastic memories .. as well as a fantastic SA (Xhosa) wife.
We still live in NE England, but have to agree, some parts of this country are now heading downwards at quite a rate of knots. It would still be very very unlikely that we would return to SA .. but, you never know !
I just hope that you guys didn't deprive your children from visiting SA and connecting with their African roots just as they're connected with their English roots because that'd be very selfish of you guys.
One day they might want to move back to SA, only to feel left out as Africans simply because you guys wouldn't have exposed them to the African culture from a young age... Can they even speak basic Xhosa?
The returnees do come back with a second passport in many cases. That is quite significant
@@joniemanwhat's that got to do with a second passport? You can get a second passport and still go home for your "mental health" sounds like you've been in Europe for too long
I am currently in the process of coming back home from Australia! I have been here since 2005 and no matter how bad SA is it is far better than being in a foreign culture.
come for a holiday first
South Africa is the best, blessed, beautiful country in the world, in Jesus Name. GOD WILL NOT DISSAPOINT YOU...Hebr 8:29
Hebrews 12: 28
@@pommie7 where are living. Durban is a shithole
You'll soon remember why you left. Good luck getting a job in BEE companies. Enjoy loadshedding. Enjoy watching over your back. Best thing I did was leave SA
There is no place like home ,living your friends, family ,good weather, South Africa good food behind is not good thing .I lived in Scotland for 8 years at 1st I was excited to live in country where there is less crime ,job opportunities and 1st world country. UK weather is shit ,if you want to raise you kids well UK is not the place .South Africa is great country with bad politicians far better than UK .We need to fix this country for all South Africans to enjoy .South Africa is like gold ready to be discovered
Yup true I grew up in U.K this country , this place has no sense of community and its not child friendly the education system sucks . Passing a child from kne grade to the next they don't know anything
I moved to the UK in 1990 as an accountant. London is still a great city for the areas one goes to and is safe. Europe is significantly safer than SA. A well qualified immigrant will do much better in the uk and the life is good. Wokeness is an European issue and is diminishing western living for sure. SA remains a remarkable country in my mind and I did consider retiring at least for a period there but the ANC is really destroying the fabric and is an unstable risk in so many areas that we canned the idea. Still visit though. Crime in SA is 20x that of the uk and where I live in Surrey violent crime is almost non existent.
Very true. Within a 10 km radius of my premises, I have everything; shops, supermarkets, restaurants.I have not been to the city centres of Pretoria/Johannesburg for 10+ years.
PS: I'm retired. For workers, there are probably more issues to consider.
Agree ...the UK is a shithole....but the Netherlands is great... And SA will have to change a lot for us to move back.
The Netherlands and the rest of Europe will follow England's path.
Yeah I think just go to the Netherlands
Jullie zijn allemaal welkom hier in Nederland. Je kan het zelfs bekijken als een terugkomst.
Groetjes
I love you guys,you'll are great .The whole is in a mess.South Africa is great . It's only that the goverment ( ANC ) IS NOT GOOD FOR THIS COUNTRY .
Are those who are returning to South Africa from (mainly) England, more of a white skin colour of more of a black skin colour. Do they publish those demographics or is it not allowed?
No cheap labour there....people not friendly .. no kitchen girls running around madam .. no pakis to wash bosses car esh...
All kinds. Mainly white though. Some Indians and Coloureds.
Good point, there were a lot of black professionals leaving. I reckon they are thinking I have European experience on my CV time to head back for a nice job back in South Africa.
@@Amanzi379 most people returning are whytes...they cant compete with their mates...they will tell you that europe is better, but they struggle to make a decent living there....and they cant steal any land there....or benefit from cheap labour....
Even the English are running from the Uk 🇬🇧 mate . Not just South Africans even Indians that lived for generations in Uk are going back to India and say they had enough.
As someone who left SA 7 years ago, and have lived in 2 countries and visited many others, I think the pull of SA multfaceted. Firstly, home is home and will always be home no matter where you are in teh world. Secondly, there is great weather and lots of things to do and see in SA that you just can't see or do in other countries. Thirdly, there is definitely an energy, a vibe, a something that is in SA that makes you feel like you can't find a place like it anywhere else in the world. Of course, you can settle anywhere else in the world, any be happier elsewhere, but SA will always hold that special appeal in your heart, regardless of how it is getting worse.
I came home... but I had always planned to. Kids are healthier in the sunshine, I'm happier around my countrymen, rugby, blue skies and braais !
As native Brits, we’re emigrating to SA in June 🥳
All the best, hope you find it well 👍 where you moving to?
The cost of living is driving people back home and of course the long dreary forever cold weather.
You guys are awesome! Thanks for the show!!!
Europe and the UK are terrible, cant wait to come home, but ill be doing it with my Pounds.....You are 100% correct about the nature of Europe/Uk, government wants to regulate your life into a box, standard living is terrible and it will cost you a fortune for that. You can tell why our ancestors packed up and left uk/Europe, there is just no growth for people, you are locked into your social class structure and never allowed out unless it is down.....
And after you have spent your pounds, what then?
@@Amanzi379 ill be spending them on passive income investments that make me more money, besides i will be leaving assests behind that generate me pounds and euros all the time.
What were they thinking leaving in the first place when most of them have only known SA as their home and have no ties with Europe?
I'm a black South African and I refuse to let the past of my country define me... I love everyone of all Colour, black, brown, white, and yellow... And if I'm to be honest, I can't imagine SA without white South Africans.
You guys shouldn't take whatever negative things being said about you by black South Africans seriously because most of us have no issues with you, just because we're silent, it doesn't mean we have issues... Like the former president Thabo Mbeki said, " The land belongs to those who work in it".
This channel is pure Gold ❤
I moved to Poland in January 2020, on a Polish passport speaking the language. I am doing very well. I live in a larger city, and I feel safe. I had an opportunity to visit Berlin (Germany) for a work assignment. I hated that German city! I saw 3 police actions, one burned out car... I was so happy when I crossed back into Poland.
South Africa? Load-shedding no thanks. Water shedding: no thanks. Bad roads? no thanks.
You got to get rid of Tusk.
@@BigJFindAWay Trust me, I did not vote for him!
What about the job reservation for blacks only BBEEE. This is restricting jobs for whites (unless they work privately) to almost being unable to find a job here! Just look around....
What is the racial composition of Krakow compared to Berlin...therein lye's your answer.
Please make a video in a year so we can see how many of them stayed in SA. SA has also gotten far worse than what it was when they left.
Old Sieners prophecy coming about?
What are the prophecies?
And who were the Sieners?
Been following. Look at world events and South Africa's events as well. Israel linked to Siener's prophecy (and Russia). The pivotal elections this year. The grid falling apart. The darkest hours are still to come but then.........
The sun will rise in South Africa and the REAL New Dawn will arrive. I said in 2017 no new dawn here because a bunch of communist thieves just changed face. That fool Ramaphosa tricked so many people but not me because it simply didn't look right.
Literally the only thing that can provide an insight into the future is Siener Van Rensburg.
@@franchellevanheerden Siener van Rensberg. SAfs seem to be losing all notion of their history and that's sad. I hope you know about the war and concentration camps of 1899-1902, especially with an Afrikaans surname.
Both Siener and Johanna Brandt's prophecies agreed on how it would play out. We've been prepared for over 100yrs for what is to come but BOTH of them warned that only the humble of heart would believe them while the proud would reject their divinely inspired predictions. So far both of them are quite correct with their predictions. I'm glad you mentioned it. I've researched the "Phoenix Phenomena" which is a repetitive 138yr reset pattern set into chronology for over 5000yrs yet hidden by mainstream history especially since 1902. Both Brandt's and V.Rensburg's predictions align perfectly with it. It's all very encouraging & everything points to South Africa being the epicenter and start of the next Phoenix Event in 2040 too.
@@franchellevanheerden😂
IF these figures are to be trusted, I doubt it very much that the majority who have settled in Australia, Canada and N.Zealand would consider returning - most left because of the economic discrimination that AA and BBBEE brought - S.A can't be a viable option for them and especially their children to come back to.
That thumbnail is everything.
But, no. We are not moving back.
Thank goodness!
@@ranzu261Enjoy your ever-growing shithole. ❤
Dudes the number 1 issue in SA is safety. I wish I could come back, desperate even but I can’t justify it if something happens to my young son or wife or even myself for that matter. There are too many goons running around SA! Nowhere is safe. I must also challenge you guys on the notion that we that have emigrated or somehow misinformed. Typically the people that leave SA are skilled labour very smart very savvy (generalising here) they have the means to leave and other countries are more than happy to take on the virtue of their skills and resources. What I’m saying is we are not naive we know what we are doing. I live in complete safety in England I leave my windows and doors wide open (for 3 weeks a year😂) and unlocked all year around. I am somewhat prosperous here but I just can’t stand the bureaucracy and the lifestyle is utter dog shit from a SA perspective. Maslows hierarchy of needs gents safety is one of those things that I get here that I cannot get in SA and this is the main issue I have. Literally if SA were to sort this shit out I would move back in a heart beat.
Depends where you live, and how you live.
@@MorningShot maybe you should do a segment on where it is safe in SA to live?
That's great for some, but for others it cannot even be a consideration anymore. Starting over in another country with this exchange rate means I will never be in the same position financially again. SAs a shithole, but it's our shithole and we just have to make the best of it.
If you can afford an expensive place to live in SA you good..but that price is not attainable for the normal person. The rest live in brakpan or somewhere like Durban where things are KAK. I had know water for 3 days during the strikes, some have had no water for 7 days and my garbage has not been taken in 3 weeks.So anywhere overseas is better than those places. Plus if you want to anything with your life besides a dumb office job SA is not the place. Try be an artist, musician in SA..hmm.
@@MorningShot
@@danielschauffer8216 being street smart is not something you can teach someone. It's a situational awareness thing that someone either instinctively has or hasn't. Without that street smart that we SAns have learned over the years, you wouldn't survive for long.
Back from visiting my daughter in the Netherlands-lovely people, lifestyle- safe and secure- any time of day! Back in beautiful Cape Town, the focus returns to loadshedding and political nonsens.
I once walked a dog named Joey, in Amsterdamse Bos❤
My wife and I are in Germany and you don’t even know how spot on you are - planning the move home now and counting the months
Welcome home.
I visited South Africa last year, and your on point about finding a place to live off grid in SA. I stayed in the Johannesburg suburb of Parkhurst which is very clean, safe, integrated and like suburban American. The community is also close knit with its own private security. Parkhurst was heaven to me as an African American where I could never find and afford to experience a community like that. There's also other nice communities around the Joburg metro such as Faerie Glenn & Rosebank. SA has it's problems like loadshedding, and now water. But the infrastructure is still on par & often times better than in the US...no exaggeration. So being off the grid can work
We don't really have a water problem. We'll at least where I live in the East of Joburg, We always have water all year round. If there is gonna be a water cut due to maintenance, they let us know. Water problem is not a national problem, but rather an area or regional issue.
The number of company & individual tax payers - is DECREASING.
So I am not convinced there is a net influx of migrants, on balance.
I call BS.
But maybe I am wrong.
Completely agreed, I too call BS. Bring data first (which is not being collected on immigration and emigration numbers).
So many countries in Europe, the West, New Zealand and Australia have all had a decline in the past 20 years, some more than others obviously.
An aquaintence in the U. S. was asking the question as to why certain professional salaries, ie Engineers, Teachers, lecturers etc have in fact dropped nearly 50% in the past 20 years.
The world is going to shit on a grand scale.
Just what the puppet masters want 😡
Argentina is improving.
Sure, some whites are moving back to South Africa but more are leaving, so what's your point?
Well many of those leaving may return too.
Absolutely, my friend left for the US in 1994 and has moved back now. According to this friend, the US is a💩show, and would rather deal with Eskom! I am Irish and was due to leave just after Covid happened, when Covid hit and what went on accross the world, I decided that I am never leaving. For 2 reasons, rather the 💩I know than the 💩I don't and my people are here and they matter more than anything, which I realised moreso in the pandemic. Now the place where I was to live in Ireland has got huge migrant issues and the government is no longer for the Irish citizens at all. My friends there are very unhappy in Ireland. My feeling is that even though Ramaphosa is a WEF puppet, South Africa is the best option for me with what's going on in the world.
Crazy 😮
The winds of change show me that you are better off moving to countries bordering South Africa than South Africa now coz in south Africa 💩 can hit the fan anytime 😂
@@mobydick5046 The way politics around the world are going with U.S, U.K and others against Russia and China, things can escalate quickly anywhere.
The west need legal or illegal immigration because the way things are moving its heading into a world war 3. Sleepy Joe is allowing young adult males over the border and the rest of Europe is doing the same just incase they need people because no British youngster is going to volunteer for war . I say better the 💩you know and can still mask with something than diarrhoea that you can't control
America is a poop hole, and crime. and gang infested,,,, most of us are headinfg for SA!
London in 2009 was grim. Wouldn't want to be there now.
I remember too well. I was there 2009 working for the NHS in Southend On Sea Essex
Thanks! I’m thinking of coming back after 20 years
please come ans vote DA
dont the reasons you left still exists
That's interesting from where ?
How do you equate a survey saying "34% want to return home" with 34% are moving back?
I agree people that who moved to London generally move back to SA due to affordability. Many SAFFAS that moved to the North of the UK are living their best lives.
THERE ARE STILL MANY DECENT AREAS IN THE UK 🇬🇧 TO LIVE, LONDON DON'T REPRESENT THE UK 👍👍🇬🇧
Are more people returning than are leaving? It's like a bucket with a leak: if it leaks faster than you can fill it, it will eventually be empty or close enough to empty that it doesn't make a difference.
I think the article said 30% are returning. The means 70% are staying overseas. Does not mention if the returning are staying permanently. About half the people I know who returned in the past few years have already left South Africa again. Many people come back because of work visa issues and not a deep desire to return to South Africa.
I am wondering what about black South Africans, do they have the same experiences .. personally I think most white South Africans live the highest standard of living compared to blacks in SA.. so for blacks UK might be better than SA
Depends on age group older ones will leave U.K younger ones will stay
I know that my sister in New Zealand will move back to South Africa at the drop of a hat, if she can convince her husband and children to also move back!
I dont know anyone who has come back. The ones that did come home went back.
Brother stabbed a few months ago in rural UK and was making virtually no money due to the high cost of living. He's on a plane next month back home. He's sick of that kak. He sure as hell is going nowhere now no matter what happens because he woke up to the fact one can get killed anywhere. Funnily not mugged once in South Africa let alone stabbed. So many people make out like these places are paradises. We Africans and know how to deal with the crime here. Hence why he was stabbed there and not ONCE here.....
So now you do know someone coming home for good this time
Just because you don't know of anyone that has come back, doesn't mean that no one is coming back.
I was born in Durban. You cant beat the culture we have in that country. Its amazing.
I returned from the UK after living in the UK for 15 yrs, after 2 yrs I came back to the UK, There is no long term hope for SA.
There's no such thing as "no long term hope for South Africa".
Rather, it is you personally who has lost hope.
People who have hope in their hearts see the opportunity in SA. Those who've lost hope are blind to it.
@MuzorewaRatshikuni take your blinkers off. Another term of the ANC. The lights are already out
stay there and enjoy your life
@@whenwe9168 Recently, I listened to a speech by Christo Wiese, the man who, along with Whitey Basson, built Shoprite. The speech was given at a BizNews gathering in Hermanus. In it, Christo quotes Jan Smuts as follows, "South Africa is a country where things are not always as good as they shouls be, and where things are not always as bad as they could be.
Despite noting the many challenges facing South Africa, Christo's speech struck a positive tone about South Africa's future and he encouraged the audience to maintain a positive outlook.
My mind went back to the number of speeches I have heard Christo give over the years, and it struck me how in all of them, he always maintained a positive outlook and hope for South Africa. It dawned on me, that that is one if the reasons he has been tremendously successful in South Africa, and on the back of his local SA success, he was able to built a gkobal investment conglomerate. That is the character of successful people - they are at their best when things are at their worst.
@whewe9168, it is totally within the character of failures like you, to be negative and devoid of hope for SA.
May you find suceess there at those distant shores. You couldn't make it in SA - fair thee well gentle Sir!
@@whenwe9168 Recently, I listened to a speech given by Christo Wiese, the man who, alongside Whitey Basson, built Shoprite. The speech was given at a BizNews gathering in Hermanus. In it, Christo quotes Jan Smuts as follows,
"South Africa is a country where things are not always as good as they should be, and where things are not always as bad as they could be".
Having noted the various challenges facing South Africa, Christo's speech struck a positive tone about South Africa's future and he encouraged the audience to maintain a positive outlook.
My mind went back to the various addresses I had heard Christo give over the years. It struck me how in all of them, he always maintained a positive outlook and hope for South Africa. It dawned on me that this is one of the reasons he has been tremendously successful in South Africa - he's always at his best even when things are at their worst.
Failures like you Sir, are always negative and delight is hearing ofvand spreading bad news about SA.
You were a failure in SA and couldn't make the cut. May you find successes in NZ. Fair thee well gentle Sir.
My late father always maintained; the problem with living in the UK and Europe always comes down to the weather. It can really get you down.
They come back to go off grit! SA is
like a stepdown facility!
It's grid.
@@wot4922 Karen
They'll have to drag me out of SA, I'm staying right here. Fuck the negative people and naysayers.
@@Whayden21 Spelling Nazi?
@@joniemanI agree.
It’s astonishing to me that people are moving back in such substantial numbers despite the Retardanistan government.
Could it be that people are sending major change is in the air????
I wonder how many were influenced lately by the news that the ANC is losing ground... only for MK to chuck a new stick in the spokes.
South Africa is very interesting!
Just 40 years ago you could be beaten for being outside after 6pm in a specific area, you could be jailed for loving someone , you could be beaten for being on the wrong beach and you could be hanged if your friend told you about a crime they committed.
But those things would only happen to you when you were a certain race(black). But interestingly enough some people didn't emigrate out infact we there was an influx into the country.
So when you look at it its not the crime thats making them emigrate its that the crime is now affecting everyone equally.
This argument still stands for economic reasons, politics, getting jobs etc....
Whites got f*ckd by 1 government but us normal low level blacks we got f*ckd by 2 governments.
My daughter and son-in-law moved to Australia about 10 years ago. They say that they won't be moving back to South Africa any time soon. There are expatriates that are very happy in Australia.
Those coming back don't have jobs or permanent jobs.... If they were successful and making a living - why ever would they come back HERE?
They have already made enough money to purchase a home and send their children to our schools in South Africa. Most of their goals are not to live there but to make money there
Because it's shit in London.
If you have spent time in Europe you would understand, most South Africans do not appreciate what they have ito. lifestyle
I worked overseas for 10 years and have come back, only because I have semi retired. It's probably people like me that are returning
Because of COVID, people and companies have realised you can work remotely. Lots of people I know do it, including myself.
Mmm. I don’t know. There are more and more South Africans that I deal with every day in all walks of life here in Aus. There are definitely more and definitely not fewer. Can’t speak for the moves into and out of the UK though.
My brother is in Aus and he definitely isn't coming back.
Same here in NZ...
Yeah reading all these comments, it sounds like those moving back are from the UK or colder climates. We are in Aus and the standard of living is incredible - my children have so much freedom. I do worry about them growing up entitled and lacking resilience (you know, first world problems aren’t actually problems).. but we visit home often and I hope to instil care for others and resilience in them, without growing up in the fear and trauma that most South Africa’s carry around with us as ‘normal’ expectations of life. It’s actually pretty toxic when you are removed from it
Thank you, Roman and Byron.
Leaskweg? 🤔
They tell you that you'll earn in pounds, you'll sit down and do conversions to Rands and be like "OMG I'm leaving" ....and then you'll get there and spend in Pounds not Rands 💀
Yes, its amazing how people fall for that one!!!
Exactly people paying a lot more here for rent, rates, water, gas, electric, internet, food, petrol, diesel, cars are cheaper here.
The point is to save the money for when you come back, not about the fact that you'll spend pounds there... obviously
@@lukeherbst7931 the fact is how can you save money if the cost of living there is high ? If people who were born there can't even save what makes you think it's so easy for expats ? Just because it's pounds doesn't make it easy to save
@@JOEYZ-nq2gn the fact is how are you not saving even a single pound every week? And if you can't, why? Where are you spending the money? Because then just like in SA you need to make sacrifices, except your money still goes much much further
f all safe about london mate. migrant crime, and local criminals are going mad...not to mention the islamist threats(protests)
When this sh*t between Russia and Europe starts hitting the fan, I would rather be living in Soweto, South Africa. By the way why has almost 25% of UN staff in New York relocated to Nairobi?🤔
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Really, why? Wats happening in Nairobi?
I wouldn't want to be in SA when Russia and Europe clashes or worse. SA will be supporting Russia might ask for some assistance.
@@jonye7511 Assistance on supplying what? Spears, assegais, biltong or boweroevoirs? 😁😂🤣🤣
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this is interesting insight.
You telling me the country i have always wanted to leave is great.
Going off grid in the rural areas of SA is not safe though....
Many rural communities are well organized and have armed militias. The people live close enough together to support and protect each other.
@@jonieman what does your latte pumpkin spice cappuccino have to do with safety? No, I am referring to the obvious rural safety problems we have here in SA on a regular basis, such as home invasions and farm attacks where people get hacked with machetes, raped, have boiling water thrown over them or poured down their throats, get ironed with hot irons, have their children thrown into bath tubs with boiling water, are suffocated by having plastic packets tied over their heads, and lastly, also get shot.
Where do you live that you know about a latte pumpkin spice cappuccino, which by the way I have never even heard of before, despite your unhinged accusations?
Depends on which rural areas, you must look at the demographics!
Not true, My folks are off grid and super safe (Rural KZN - Byrne Vallley, Richmond) The people in Byrne do all their own own armed security, guard patrols, cheap clean water, solar power, grow their own food or get from local farmers eggs, milk, meat, veg good cell/internet connection etc.
@@joniemanWishing you all of the very best. I am not here to fight with people. Everyone is allowed to share their views and concerns.
Well its not as simple as that. My woodworking factory was looted and burnt to the ground in Krugersdorp in January2018. I lost my building ,tools and my livelihood. At a white male who would employ me and pay me a living wage? No chance! Not with affirmative action in place. Fortunately for me 3 months earlier our visa to move to Western Australia was approved and we left 6 years ago. But here's the kicker ... within 3 months I was offered a job at the age of 68. Imagine that happening in SA, Never. I miss SA because it was my home but I don't miss the state its in at this point. No infrastructure like railways ,hospitals, no postal service, no police not to speak of Eskom or the failing water supply. The only roads that are in intact are national HI ways, I know I visited in 2022 and toured the country doing 6000KM. Living in SA you adapt and get used to everything that's lousy. Yes Australia has its faults if you want to call them that but don't underestimate the freedom to walk to a nearby park, or magnificent beach that never looks like the south coast. Catch a train to the city where you can hop on and off a tour bus at no cost. They are called Cat busses.
Yes I would come back if the country returned to its former glory. That's not likely in my lifetime sadly.
Mistakes do happen. Who thought war will errupt in Europe. Although we want real South Africans back, a person need survive. So I can"t blame you.
Parties will come and go. Thank you for your wonderful comment. South Africans over reacted on the freedom they got and were carried away.
In S.A. we have an influx of foreigh illegal immigrants and they bring a lot of crime. Me as a black South African, I do understand you.
We need to come back to the drawing board and if it needs be we must change the rulling party in order to take us back to our glory. I am 59years old and own my own bussines at least and not in tendering.
You were very fortunate brother to get another job and which you were not going to be employed in S.A.
The west Africans plus corruption is ruining our country. I admire your straightforwardnes.
Thanks, all I ask is when you all go to the polls to vote DONT vote for any party punting godless agendas.
People having left in 2004 and coming back in 2024 because its not the same, Trust South Africa to be that place that is still the same over 20 year or better yet regarding public services and basic immensities, SA has actually gone so far back in time that its rural.
Guys, I am happy that white South African are coming back, heck anyone coming to SA for good reasons, I am happy. We need all the effort to keep this SAn ship from sinking like the others.
I think one should remember to "never say never". The big problem in the EU, Great Britain and the USA is unrestrained migration, the war on Ukraine which has skyrocketed EU energy prices and for the USA unrestrained deficit spending. This being said South Africa is a very dangerous place, with lots and lots and lots ..................... of other problems. Thus it is a individual choice to move or stay. One thing that is worrisome is the talk about conscription in Europe. The winds of war are blowing and that will make Europe really bad.
Yes and if WW3 breaks out, I wouldn't want to be in or near the thick of it.
Racists are coming back because it's tough and they can't practice racism the way they used to in South Africa
Its you that cannot accept that you are not a nice person in the first place.
Not everyone is obsessed and practices racism. Generally it's those who accuse others of racism are the ones who are the biggest racists.
I lived in the UK and I decided I would rather hide my cell phone in my butt crack in Joburg than live in a cold, rainy, anti social loony bin.
You win the comments section.
Your phone will be stolen out of your butt crack, you will be taxed and you'll be the looney on the streets of braamfontein without a job but at least the weather will be good.
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You shouldn't believe everything you hear or comment on something that never happened to you people are walking around with their cellphones visibly but you are welcome to hide yours...
South Africa is a horror story. Once you have lived it, it has a strange grip on you. Repulsive yet exciting. Like a bad relationship you cant let go of. Estate agents shouldnt trusted.
There are white and black people who live well in S.A. They don't say anything because life for them is good.
The Ruppets, Ackermans, Motsepes and others are doing well in S.A. In Stellenboch town that's were most are. Most people can't accept that S.A. is now multicultural.
The South Africa of yesterday is not a South Africa of today. Although our crime rate is geographical, there are places that does experience high crime because of overpopulation.
I do understand what you say. After South Africa got its freedom, others got carried away especially the ruling party because instead of focussing on the livelyhood of the vulnerable people, they focussed on themselves.
South Africa is the most unequal country in the world, where the rich are more richer and the poor poorer. But I like this platform because it makes us realize the real truth.
I think in this coming election, things will get better and I see cuolition governing as the answere.
How fortunate I am. My husband is British I'm South African and we have 2 homes in both continents! 6 summer months here in Cape Town and 6 summer months in Norfolk. 🤗
Best scenario!
Win win
Distasteful smugness at its best!🤮
What a show off ....how are the rest suppose to feel now ? 😏 Thanks a lot
When do you work? Or you're living off apartheid inheritance as well?
I find that really hard to believe I know at least 50 people that emigrated and not one of them want to come back to this shit hole, I cant wait to get out of here
Good bye
Please be fsat about it and never come back pls
Yo, you know that there are over 4.4million whites in SA? You don't know them all boet
You will miss this shit hole, No Rubbish out there
hamba khaya
Looking forward to your commentary on the collapse of the SAA-Takatso deal, courtesy of Jamnandoos ...
Both my sons can still not find a job in SA.
I'm just worried that SA is going to be expensive to live in because of all the foreigners who are also flooding in to stay. It's becoming too popular. All the foreign Tiktokers etc. are encouraging people to move here because it's great and cheap. It's not good for regular locals.