Will I ever Move Back to South Africa?
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Canada is a souless place. If South Africa could get it together it would for me be the no 1 country in the world.
You made your choice to leave and i am happy for you. However, now that you have gone you should keep your comments to yourself as you no longer live here. We live here and are trying to make our beautiful country work.
We are healing, slowly but surely.
I disagree
Freedom of speech
We live to learn
Violence is running wild in the country you live now...
@@elizabethnovak4088Do you live in South Africa?
South Africa 🇿🇦 is an amazing country to live in, we will definitely move back only if Crime and the economy is fixed.
It sounds like you are grieving South Africa and I can tell you are heartbroken to think you had to leave because of crime. Your heart is in South Africa we can tell, the memories, the people. But we still need to survive, you are right until you have left the country long enough, you won't understand the constant anxiety you have in your day to day life in SA.
Me, I asked. There was a lady just up the road from me, 2 blocks away from me that was shot in the head. We keep my door shut and gate locked when we are in the salon, and when I am alone in the shop and someone comes to the door, I always check who it is through the window before opening the door. Like you always say, it is what it is.
You say its lot cheaper bcoz you're converting the US$ to the rand ,but for people who are earning the rand ,its expensive
Nope, untrue
He says that if lamb chops were $12/kg he would eat them everyday, yet his mom in SA finds them expensive at R160/kg (ie. $9/kg)
He also says that the cost of living in lovely home in JHB, is same as living in a basement in Vancouver at 5times the price
As a South African living in the Western Cape its difficult to fathom the critique that problems in some parts of our country are symptomatic of a larger malaise.
It is tantamount to saying let me emigrate from the USA because there are mass shootings at schools malls or cinemas.
The problem really centres around sharing and nasie bou. To think that societies are not transformative requires a retrospective look at that country's history.
Let's use Australia Canada and the USA as examples where many South Africans favour as emigration destinations. What these countries have in common is that their indigenous populations are a minority. Whereas here it's the other way round. Hence another perspective needs to be found navigate these challenges.
Sadly the South Africans that face the brunt of the violence are previously disadvantaged communities in any case and they have no where to go.
Your comments around porous borders decaying infrastructure are true within a context but not an absolute truth ! If South Africa is going to work for all its going to take more than government will and action. Every able South African will have to be proactive and a willing participant for positive social change as it's way too risky to leave this in the exclusive hands of politicians.
We are proud of our country and its achievements. I know many South Africans who went abroad seeking better prospects and opportunities and have made a good life for themselves but there are many of us who have stayed home and enjoy a happy safe and financially secure life in South Africa.
My best wishes to those who have chosen to live elsewhere kuier maar lekker !😢
Yes, it’s only the govt that creates an enabling govt for citizens to act and showcase their FULL goodness
Im staying put..we are very optimistic with our new government, crime getting sorted very quickly, eventually people are getting convicted for crimes chop chop!😊
That is brilliant news! I really hope they get it right because SA is such an amazing country with amazing people.
Hope you come back Brother. Situation is very bad, we need your skills. BEE is a total mess.
The resentment policies of the ANC are slowly dying, not fast enough though. South Africa was not built by a single race a lot of the basic core skills came with the Eoropean settlers more than 400 years ago, and they changed how native Africans were doing things. Pity that some decisions were made that neglected some races, hence the resentment, but I'm a believer that we need all South Africans to come back home.
Races are gifted with different intelligences and we need the White race in our country. Some South African black people are aware, but change takes time.
The amount of know how in the white community is enormous, allowing Soo many to leave creates a huge gap, it becomes almost impossible to have enough depth to teach at schools, university and run World class businesses. Only few can access the knowledge. I grew to understand that enequality is all about skills not race. It the race with skills that bring progress and race itself is not controlled by humans, it's just how life adaption built us as humans.
South Africa will get there. All nations have their past, and it's only with time that we will get the balance to allow genuine progress for all without limiting opportunities based on race. 🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🙏🙏🙏
Thank you
The only thing keeping me from moving to Canada is Finance
You need to either be well off financially or land a job that pays good .
So unfortunately I'm Stuck here .
I love SA! The most beautiful country in the world! I'm presently in the process of obtaining a PR. Going to retire there however, I would probably never have considered going there if I hadn't had a steady source of income from overseas.. Crime is a problem in SA.. You're correct that it is always on my mind...
It is but I heard crime is being addressed by the new coalition government so who knows. maybe they get it right. That would be awesome!
@@SouthAfricansinVancouver I pray for a better life for all those in need of South Africa.. It won't be easy however, they might just do it..
@@SouthAfricansinVancouver Any tips on moving to SA for a retiree? Presently own investment property in CPT.
What do you do for a living?
I believe I've mentioned before I worked with a guy in his late 20s who moved to Toronto with his wife because of limited opportunities in SA. Initially they lived in a condo in Toronto's downtown core and they were amazed at the "freedom" they had in Toronto to walk around at pretty much any time of day.
Yea, its hard to explain to people who never experienced it before...
Crime sucks in SA mate. Alberta here
True - I really hope the new coalition can get it under control.
Western Cape is in better shape in 2024 than when I left in 2001. No litter, roads are great, economy is fairly buoyant. You still have to be alert for sure but it’s not worse than the 90s . The downside is whites are expelled from the economy so getting a job is out of the question. Entrepreneurship is the only way or you live off your assets generating income offshore. However that could change with the new govt. I’m seriously thinking of going back from NZ.
Interesting. Western Cape is great but for me the crime and opportunities are still a problem.
Wish you could come back
You can live well and if so wish contribute too from your internal expertise
I pray the job opportunities are more about merit and less about race
So in a nut shell you will return ...depending
I'm not planning to but if everything can get sorted in SA (Which I doubt will happen in my lifetime) Yes
Crime and is killing our country 14:31 inthink the entire Africa is suffering the same
You think wrong.
Lol.. stay where you are… I’m here now. We don’t need you… 😂
Don’t be jealous
We need every good, law abiding and highly skilled SAn to build good and safe communities
Enjoy the wokeness. Look at what your children learn at school//univ. Be careful what you say to fellow ZA's and Canadians. And lastly, enjoy your PM that introduced "special" laws for his wife and MIL for their business dealings the pandemic...smells a bit like home if you can read between the lines. Keep safe my Ou and enjoy the dwindeling ZA gatherings over there...ask me.
My family and I on the other hand feel very different. We have no desire to ever go back to SA. Canada has made us feel more welcome and at home than what we ever did in SA. When we went back it was clear how far behind SA is falling to the rest of the developed world.
Oh no, don't. get me wrong. I have no plans of going back either. Just saying to even consider going back those things will need to be sorted out. The odds of that happening though is pretty low...
Why are you doing this? You're in canada, let us be. Let us rebuild our country. Nobody's interested in why you don't want to come to SA. Stay in Canada. Leave us alone.
Knowledge is power
It is empowering us decision makers
Z
Why are you condoning violence, call it out. Say it isn’t acceptable.
😂sir, live your life...don't come back. focus on your new country, don't waste your time and energy speaking about a place you careless about.
So you run away when it's bad, but you will come back when it's good !!! Stay there we don't need you.
SA needs every good highly skilled citizen who believes in law and order
SA needs him but he is free to live anywhere, just like you
Just stop going on about the country you left because of its badness, start talking about whats happening in so called " first world" countries.
If I understand you correctly,apartheid was the great days.
Interesting that you never mentioned apartheid.
Do you remember 1976-Soweto?
Was that the epitome of law and order?
All I can say to you sir is[good riddance].
In 1976 I was 5 years old, so no, I don't remember it. I never mentioned apartheid as I don't believe it should be a valid excuse for the level of corruption and crime in South Africa 30 years after it was abolished. I also don't recall ever insinuating that apartheid was the great days, but then I suppose I can't help you understand things.
@VancouverInsiders what's 30 years of 500 damages to people?!? Nothing!! The generation of blacks born 30 years ago is unskilled, has no education, lives in slums with no hope abmnd that is the majority of black South africans! Who are the black people governing South Africa? The same who came from that situation and condition as above-described! Worse of all, who are the people who control the economy, the land, and the real source of development in South Africa? Are the 7.2% of white people who owns the economy against 82.8% non-white poor prople! That minority don't even pay taxes because all the money is deposited offshore (UK, Australia, Canada, USA, etc., etc.)!! Who created the corrupted BEE? White people as a tool to destabilize everything! I could go on and on! This is the legacy of your favorite Apartheid system and will take generations and generations to correct this situation!
Why so snippy? SA loses out through people leaving. Imagine how much better it would be for everyone if all who emmigrated returned.
@@veritas8318No. You have left. I do not consider you as my fellow South African. We are better off without the likes of you. We will pull this country through. United we stand. Without you. Only patriots count as South Africans.
@@sonjaswart9866 For your info, I have not left, and your we does not represent me.
This guy... good grief.
This guy...
That's what i grew up feeling when i came across white person.
Allow him to be
He is a man of integrity and a law abiding citizen
Why in the world could you insinuate condemnation to a Good Man?!
Kwaai t-hemp 😂
LOL!