They should have made Hellfire have an effect like Overdriver "hotshot". Deals more damage for burn, the longer you stream fire on a target (a multiplier). That way you can surge stun a target, heat it up and run while the burn takes the target out with the scaling DOT. Alternatively, nomad dash in, heat up a target, and dash to another and heat them up. Alternative implants would also be cool for this weapon since nothing changes with stat growth. An implant like, increase fire rate and projectile speed.
@@RuFFlesGamingI have a question I'm division 1 but sp is 1700is it good I stopped playing for a long time and came back I'm behind a lot do u have tips for getting powerful faster
@@ruchiradesilva7494 you want to get strong faster? The only way is top-up, otherwise you need a long time to get stronger, if we consider you're still at 1700 SP 😅
Pyro and Inferno were very buggy on release, not broken. After the bugs were fixed (they were fixed surprisingly fast for pixonic) they became mediocre weapons, their recent nerfs kinda made them more niche
The problem now is any new weapon released would have to be stronger than revokers. Otherwise everyone will still just use revokers. Only answer would be nerf revokers. But can’t do that cause Revokers are kind of a must have endgame cause mods are too strong for anything else to handle close quarters. Even embers don’t work that good and they are the second best besides revokers. They over did the mods for sure and the game is a mess now. I was excited for something new but looks like three revoker builds and two storms it is. What a shame.
yea, i probably compared it to revoker too much tbh. ideally you wanna isolate the outliers and not balance new items around them, otherwise a nerf simply creates further imbalance. what i meant to say is that hellfire is rather weak in comparison to most weapons of its type (Minigun/Ember/etc), not necessarily to focus on Revoker so much.
@@RuFFlesGamingWith the Burn effect back in the game, I wonder what other Incendiary weapons will come. I’d be really keen for a Pyro Nade Launcher or something. Works well considering we already have Cryo Launchers
Really surprised that it's a heavy duty weapon while its literally close quarter weapon. I think this needs more range maybe atleast 55m to 65m. But I think it's great and a meta worthy weapon. So far this my favorite weapon design, I like how there's a dragon-like design on the weapon that's exactly how I imagined a flamethrower would look like. Anyway always enjoy your reviews man gg!
I love this, even though it's mid, I'll have to so much fun with this They should make new HD pilot for this Even though it's not that meta, but they designed the weapon really great
Ima buy that thing and just enjoy it for about 5 seconds before I get bored and get back on TDU to set world records LOL 😂 it’ll be worth the 5 seconds of enjoyment.
im not sure, but i would have to guess not. its certainly not the worst weapon on the market and theyve yet to buff many of the weapons that badly need it
When you move Redeemer forward with both Hellfire guns attached, it looks like Sonic the Hedgehog running with his hands and arms behind him 🤪🤪🤪 Awesome video keep them coming!!! 🤩🤩🤩
A pain in the ass so far Hard to deal with lower ranks Fix the DOT lower than rise higher Make it to automatically rising your SP to prevent dropping bullshit And BAAAMMM got a balanced pain in the ass
It’s like legendary arcs, but without the continuous reload. Like you said, with revokers being a thing, why bother? (Assuming the revoker nerf doesn’t come shortly after these)
I think........this is absolutely the best weapon we have had in a really long time. I mean it's absolutely better than howlers and dredshot. And it's not stupidly over powered like revokers. It's is just a well balanced weapon as a weapon should be. Don't know about others....but I really think revokers should be nerfed . A single weapon meta is really lame. That's the reason we liked and accepted the concept of mods because it ended the single weapon meta which was railguns.
youre probably right, tho Tetra was decent as well imo. also yes, im rather pleased with it (tho itd be cooler if i could deal more Burn dmg, the delayed kills are really funny). i just like to make it very clear that anyone who buys it should not expect it to be meta-worthy
@RuFFlesGaming I agree with you but as well ...as I always say ... sometime it's just about the fun...and this is a sick weapon. Also I think all of the recent weapons were good ...only the grading is bad . I mean if this would have been a epic weapon it would be meta worthy (ofc a meta where there are no revokers lol) I will like to see if they change any thing with the "grade every new shit legendary even if it isn't" tactic🤌🏻✨
This actually really good, not too op but not bad either, seeker with this is nasty , obviously not as good as embers or revokers but it will be different.
legendary attacker mech with a ability called "Secondary Weapon". When the ability is activated mech switches to secondary weapon (weapons should be selected before match/ in hanger). for example 3 star mech with 12 energy cost weapon can be selected as secondary weapon and as the rank increases the energy cost for secondary weapon increases.i hope you found this concept mech interesting it will add excitement and suprise elements in the match as players will don't know about what type of secondary weapons the mech is carrying.
@@mhbm3 when ability is activated primary weapon cannot be used😂🙃.for example if you are carrying storm racks as secondary weapon and revoked as primary.when ability is activated it's replace primary weapon with secondary weapon for a certain period of time.
I have enough acoins for one legendary weapon. Is minigun worth it if I only have epic reload? I was thinking of waiting for revoker since I have a leg revoker range.
Can you get a range implant for that. Also you say revoker is just better but does revoker have the hit cone. I really like splash damage personally but I suppose by the point In the game your on the splash is kind of negligible because people aren't all grouping up but still great in ffa
When are you going to do a f2p weapon tierlist. I also wanted to ask, im a f2p player but I saw scape 211 winning in like these events where you can get legendary mechs by just using lots of rescources but could you tell me how many times these events like... happen
Heyy love ur vids but a concern with the new update on mods i removed my mods on 4 star killshot before the update and after the update i cant install my 9 layer perimeter ml
Should i buy eclipse or surge I want surge I am asking for ur opinion on this and should I use ember or storm rack. Do recommend a f2p weapon that I can use on it
Hey ruffles! Did mech arena just deleted their vid i saw it on my notifications and saw half and decided to watch the other half after and then it was not there did they just deleted that cool video
I don’t really see there being a good place for a heavy duty with only 40m and no scaling burn. Mini gun is gonna do the same with a larger mag pool and range. Graviton is actually gonna scale. And you’d still lose to revokers close range. Ima pass on this
people comparing hellfire to arc torrent,,, my opinion arc torrent is better by far hellfire to me just seems like an assist weapon i don't have it nor will i be getting it but that being said it looks like a fun toy for sure
revoker might still be stronger, idk. you still need to apply the effect, so theres a small delay at least, but yea comparatively itll deal huge damage at low rank
Dream hangar (all mechs and weapons max.) 1. Seeker Hellfire 12 Pilot: Chimera Implants: any implant you want cuz I don’t think you have much hellfire implants. 2. Aegis Minigun 12 Pilot: I forgot but it’s the red and white one with horns. Implants: 1. Minigun recoil 2. Minigun reload 3. Minigun damage 4. Ability duration. 3. Eclipse Graviton 12 Pilot: Asami Implants: 1. Graviton damage 2. Graviton implosion build up 3. Ability cool down 4. Ability duration. 4. Orion Tetra 12 Pilot: Baron Implants: 1. Tetra reload 2. Tetra final blow dmg (I think that’s an implant if not just replace with your own implant.) 3. Orion shield pierce 4. Orion marked damage boost. I will try my best to improve the hangar if you give advice :)
What about the fifth mech? ▪︎Well this is my dream hanger: 1. Embers12 Surge 2. Dual storm rack10 Eclipse 3. Storm 16&6 Bastion 4. Chain gun Aegis 5. Graviton beam 16 panther. Tell me if u think it's good or not.
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They should have made Hellfire have an effect like Overdriver "hotshot". Deals more damage for burn, the longer you stream fire on a target (a multiplier). That way you can surge stun a target, heat it up and run while the burn takes the target out with the scaling DOT. Alternatively, nomad dash in, heat up a target, and dash to another and heat them up.
Alternative implants would also be cool for this weapon since nothing changes with stat growth. An implant like, increase fire rate and projectile speed.
So if I'm getting this correctly, they essentially made the perfect weapon for a SP dropping eclipse.
lmao almost, but nah revoker is still way better bc no reload
@RuFFlesGaming lol true I m still grinding to get to tier 4 so non of that to me btw I'm division 1
@@RuFFlesGamingI have a question I'm division 1 but sp is 1700is it good I stopped playing for a long time and came back I'm behind a lot do u have tips for getting powerful faster
@@RuFFlesGaming plz help man
@@ruchiradesilva7494 you want to get strong faster? The only way is top-up, otherwise you need a long time to get stronger, if we consider you're still at 1700 SP 😅
I expected this weapon to have a recharging magazine like arc torrents.
It would NOT make sense cuz of the bottle thing on the top of the hellfire 12. It makes it so I pt can’t have a recharging mag.
Redox hellfire would be op
real
@@RuFFlesGaming a full DOT build that ignores mods pretty much.
I'm so glad this isn't broken like what happened when War Robots did it
Literally made my rook pointless😂
nah everything in WR is broken (on release, anyway)
@@RuFFlesGaming and after few months, they will get nerfed 😂. That's exactly what WR did 😅
I miss old war robots best mobile game ever.
Pyro and Inferno were very buggy on release, not broken. After the bugs were fixed (they were fixed surprisingly fast for pixonic) they became mediocre weapons, their recent nerfs kinda made them more niche
The problem now is any new weapon released would have to be stronger than revokers. Otherwise everyone will still just use revokers. Only answer would be nerf revokers. But can’t do that cause Revokers are kind of a must have endgame cause mods are too strong for anything else to handle close quarters. Even embers don’t work that good and they are the second best besides revokers. They over did the mods for sure and the game is a mess now. I was excited for something new but looks like three revoker builds and two storms it is. What a shame.
yea, i probably compared it to revoker too much tbh. ideally you wanna isolate the outliers and not balance new items around them, otherwise a nerf simply creates further imbalance.
what i meant to say is that hellfire is rather weak in comparison to most weapons of its type (Minigun/Ember/etc), not necessarily to focus on Revoker so much.
That’s the BASE skin? That’s sick af
weapons dont have skins, so yea thats just how it looks normally 🔥 (imagine weapon skins existed tho...)
@ Oh yeah, I don’t even know why I commented that haha. Weapon skins would be good though
@@RuFFlesGamingWith the Burn effect back in the game, I wonder what other Incendiary weapons will come. I’d be really keen for a Pyro Nade Launcher or something. Works well considering we already have Cryo Launchers
Really surprised that it's a heavy duty weapon while its literally close quarter weapon. I think this needs more range maybe atleast 55m to 65m. But I think it's great and a meta worthy weapon. So far this my favorite weapon design, I like how there's a dragon-like design on the weapon that's exactly how I imagined a flamethrower would look like. Anyway always enjoy your reviews man gg!
I agree. We need more mid range wpns
I love this, even though it's mid, I'll have to so much fun with this
They should make new HD pilot for this
Even though it's not that meta, but they designed the weapon really great
just use Nicklas he already got a flamethrower
@@RuFFlesGaming😂
I’ve waited so long for a Flamethrower i don’t care how it performs I might be buying it the second it comes to shop
🤣 yknow what, fair enough
Ima buy that thing and just enjoy it for about 5 seconds before I get bored and get back on TDU to set world records LOL 😂 it’ll be worth the 5 seconds of enjoyment.
This weapon actually doesn't look too bad. This might have competed with revoker if the range was 60m with Optimal 50m.
the damage looks good. Do you think they will eventually update it so that it does scale when upgraded?
im not sure, but i would have to guess not. its certainly not the worst weapon on the market and theyve yet to buff many of the weapons that badly need it
It's cool but what's really cool is that it looks like a dragon with flames coming out of its mouth
Finally after 10 years 🎉
That explains why overheat icon was changed to armor break icon
I honestly thought that a flame thrower in mech arena would be a cc weapon but it turns out to be a heavy duty
When you move Redeemer forward with both Hellfire guns attached, it looks like Sonic the Hedgehog running with his hands and arms behind him 🤪🤪🤪 Awesome video keep them coming!!! 🤩🤩🤩
And Seeker 10:00 because it’s blue 😎
Surprising that it is not an overtime recharge weapon and instead a protective weapon (you can see the recoil of each shot.)
ppl already comparing it to Arc Torrent, so a fixed mag makes sense
A pain in the ass so far
Hard to deal with lower ranks
Fix the DOT lower than rise higher
Make it to automatically rising your SP to prevent dropping bullshit
And BAAAMMM got a balanced pain in the ass
crazy damage ill will probably add that weapon if i fell the need w video
Looks really fun to use! Can’t wait!
What! I expected it to be a close quarters .
It’s like legendary arcs, but without the continuous reload.
Like you said, with revokers being a thing, why bother? (Assuming the revoker nerf doesn’t come shortly after these)
i probably leaned into the comparison vs revoker a bit too far. the way to deal with OP stuff is not to make every new item also OP
I think they should just up the range a bit, add a range implant, and add burn scaling
possibly. 60m flamethrower doesnt sound right to me tho ngl
I think........this is absolutely the best weapon we have had in a really long time. I mean it's absolutely better than howlers and dredshot. And it's not stupidly over powered like revokers. It's is just a well balanced weapon as a weapon should be.
Don't know about others....but I really think revokers should be nerfed . A single weapon meta is really lame. That's the reason we liked and accepted the concept of mods because it ended the single weapon meta which was railguns.
youre probably right, tho Tetra was decent as well imo. also yes, im rather pleased with it (tho itd be cooler if i could deal more Burn dmg, the delayed kills are really funny).
i just like to make it very clear that anyone who buys it should not expect it to be meta-worthy
@RuFFlesGaming I agree with you but as well ...as I always say ... sometime it's just about the fun...and this is a sick weapon. Also I think all of the recent weapons were good ...only the grading is bad . I mean if this would have been a epic weapon it would be meta worthy (ofc a meta where there are no revokers lol)
I will like to see if they change any thing with the "grade every new shit legendary even if it isn't" tactic🤌🏻✨
The range 🗿👍
We finally have flamethrowers now
That's op
This is one of the few mobile games that makes each second valuable
Cool weapon, odd that its heavy duty thought it was gonna be close range
same, tho ig im kinda glad its not DIRECTLY competing with revoker/ember..
This actually really good, not too op but not bad either, seeker with this is nasty , obviously not as good as embers or revokers but it will be different.
deathwalker with hellfire would look so cool
true
legendary attacker mech with a ability called "Secondary Weapon". When the ability is activated mech switches to secondary weapon (weapons should be selected before match/ in hanger). for example 3 star mech with 12 energy cost weapon can be selected as secondary weapon and as the rank increases the energy cost for secondary weapon increases.i hope you found this concept mech interesting it will add excitement and suprise elements in the match as players will don't know about what type of secondary weapons the mech is carrying.
Hell nah... 4 storm racks and ur done😂
@@mhbm3or 2 Storm Racks, 2 Revokers
@@mhbm3 when ability is activated primary weapon cannot be used😂🙃.for example if you are carrying storm racks as secondary weapon and revoked as primary.when ability is activated it's replace primary weapon with secondary weapon for a certain period of time.
@@AkshayNaikC- ik what u mean...if u have 4 stormracks (2 on ur primary and secondary) u simply can spamm it all the time when u switching it
@@mhbm3 what do you think? They will consider this mech concept or not🤔?
I have enough acoins for one legendary weapon. Is minigun worth it if I only have epic reload? I was thinking of waiting for revoker since I have a leg revoker range.
Miniguns, with cq range and DOT? Or is there something more to it than just different yet sicck animation
Can you get a range implant for that. Also you say revoker is just better but does revoker have the hit cone. I really like splash damage personally but I suppose by the point In the game your on the splash is kind of negligible because people aren't all grouping up but still great in ffa
Seeker, The Back burner!
When are you going to do a f2p weapon tierlist. I also wanted to ask, im a f2p player but I saw scape 211 winning in like these events where you can get legendary mechs by just using lots of rescources but could you tell me how many times these events like... happen
Thank god it doesnt take another close range pilot. - side by side comparison with Revoker video?
indeed, coming soon ;)
I don't think this weapon will do better against Tanky mechs especially bation and probably brickhouse .
Heyy love ur vids but a concern with the new update on mods i removed my mods on 4 star killshot before the update and after the update i cant install my 9 layer perimeter ml
this has been fixed, youll need to update your game
@RuFFlesGaming thank u so much
very nice looking weapon
What mech is better with ember gun or revoked when in gear hub surge or eclipse
surge is better with both
@ thanks
Should i buy eclipse or surge I want surge I am asking for ur opinion on this and should I use ember or storm rack. Do recommend a f2p weapon that I can use on it
ember surge is a good choice
Are you going to do the Epic skins tierlist at some moment?
probably not, that video didnt do very well
Ok
Deathwalker might be the best fit for it
Fr
So true
7:14 what is this goofy ahh visual glitch lol
I need this. Hellfire Puma go brrrrrrrrrrrr
nahh 💀
@ you know me. I’ll find a way to make it work 🤣
Bro awesome
Ok so burn goes through galvanic but implosion doesn't right thanks MA
graviton got zero love fr
Hey ruffles! Did mech arena just deleted their vid i saw it on my notifications and saw half and decided to watch the other half after and then it was not there did they just deleted that cool video
yes there were some issues with the video, but its reuploaded now :)
I expected it to be better than minigun. It is very bad.😢😢😢
Are they better than miniguns?
unsure, but id have to guess not. minigun has similar damage but much higher usable range
Does using seekers warp drive up ⬆️ the burn d.o.t dmg ?
good question. idk id have to watch the footage back.
Burn doesnt seem to be affected by pilot/implants tho, so likely not
No
When will this weapon arrive into the game?
i cant explicitly say, but in general Content Creators are allowed to share Test Server footage 1 day before the item arrives in-game
@RuFFlesGaming Thanks
@RuFFlesGaming You're right, thank you!
can guardian remove the damage effect?
it should, yes
I don’t really see there being a good place for a heavy duty with only 40m and no scaling burn. Mini gun is gonna do the same with a larger mag pool and range. Graviton is actually gonna scale. And you’d still lose to revokers close range. Ima pass on this
why do you open the menu then close it really fast?
it stops the dash short. you can do that to get shorter dashes, which is useful for all kinds of things 👍
@@RuFFlesGaming whoa, thank you for the tips!
the mech looks like its doing a naruto run with the hellfire on XD does anyone else see that?
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This weppon is like ark torent whit a dot ?
😢
sorta
people comparing hellfire to arc torrent,,, my opinion arc torrent is better by far hellfire to me just seems like an assist weapon i don't have it nor will i be getting it but that being said it looks like a fun toy for sure
yea hellfire isnt great, but its fun
It would be OP if it actually did 52k damage every 0.5 seconds for 10 seconds 😂
lmao fr
Jesus OP
They realy dont want new players i guess... First mod update,now this... Low tier it will basicly kill anything it touches if i understand coorectly.
revoker might still be stronger, idk. you still need to apply the effect, so theres a small delay at least, but yea comparatively itll deal huge damage at low rank
@@RuFFlesGamingThe effect seems to be almost immediate,so touch and go,if the enemy is lower than 52k,it will die...
I hope I'm wrong...
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That’s literally arc torrent. They changed the electric charge with a flame 🙄
theres no chain effect, the flame has an AOE, and deals damage over time. i think theres not much they couldve done to make it different...
Only p2w😏
However nice😌🌀
Dream hangar (all mechs and weapons max.)
1. Seeker
Hellfire 12
Pilot: Chimera
Implants: any implant you want cuz I don’t think you have much hellfire implants.
2. Aegis
Minigun 12
Pilot: I forgot but it’s the red and white one with horns.
Implants: 1. Minigun recoil 2. Minigun reload 3. Minigun damage 4. Ability duration.
3. Eclipse
Graviton 12
Pilot: Asami
Implants: 1. Graviton damage 2. Graviton implosion build up 3. Ability cool down 4. Ability duration.
4. Orion
Tetra 12
Pilot: Baron
Implants: 1. Tetra reload 2. Tetra final blow dmg (I think that’s an implant if not just replace with your own implant.) 3. Orion shield pierce 4. Orion marked damage boost.
I will try my best to improve the hangar if you give advice :)
What about the fifth mech?
▪︎Well this is my dream hanger:
1. Embers12 Surge
2. Dual storm rack10 Eclipse
3. Storm 16&6 Bastion
4. Chain gun Aegis
5. Graviton beam 16 panther.
Tell me if u think it's good or not.
Damage rate sxcks. 😂
Skill Issue.
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For sure