Trenlass has an opinion about smoke Minotaurs viz: Trenlass eyeing off enemy Minotaur: "Do you have smoke or radar?" Enemy Minotaur smokes up. Trenlass: "You have chosen poorly!"
I know I share this a lot, but Please, I'm Not lying. Jesus Is real. Millions across the world are having experiences, From All Beliefs, with Proof. Please. Don't turn your back on God for man's commandments. Seek. Pray. Love. Forgive~ ~ A few years ago I repented to God then Prayed for help, "I was until then an Atheist." I then had a dream of Jesus coming before God and he spoke of the Tabernacle in Perfect context, "A word I didn't know existed.", and what I felt from Jesus when I Held him was unlike Anything I've Ever felt before - A Lifetime of Love Every Second - It brought me to Sobbing and it changed my life, Forever. I've had Many experiences since, "Several witnessed". A voice Spoke Clearly into my ear, "Go Visit Your Father Today.", hours before he passed. When I prayed if I could leave this world my body spoke a word Without My Permission I Never Heard Before, "Malarkey". Hours before a major surgery a Bright orb of light Passed across my face. God and Jesus ARE real! Truly Love God & Everyone! I believe Prayer, Following God's laws & Love is the answer, and through that, Truly becoming Humble, Merciful, Welcoming, Giving, Gentle, Respectful, Compassionate, Patient, Kind and Forgiving, To All. 5
The Napoli is a coal ship. And Trenlass has a CC only stealth camo that makes enemy ships ignore you and shoot the angled BB 20 km farther away. Flambass has the same camo
11:34 "If you look at the minimap, there is another friendly battleship the Giuseppe Verdi just off to Trenlass's right." Jingles, that ship is to your left.
I have a vague memory that tears of the Desert used to be worse. A different configuration, or different island patten. I know it used to have an Epicenter mode. In any case, it was almost impossible for any cruiser to find cover without being dangerously close to the enemy.
There is more to the history of this maps nickname, back when the layout was different, and cruisers would head into the middle of the map to get munched by the battleships. Also, there was less overall cover for cross mapping, when it was a north-south oriented battle, so again, cruisers could be get slapped. This version of the map is a lot more reasonable than it use to be 🙂
I know I share this a lot, but Please, I'm Not lying. Jesus Is real. Millions across the world are having experiences, From All Beliefs, with Proof. Please. Don't turn your back on God for man's commandments. Seek. Pray. Love. Forgive~ ~ A few years ago I repented to God then Prayed for help, "I was until then an Atheist." I then had a dream of Jesus coming before God and he spoke of the Tabernacle in Perfect context, "A word I didn't know existed.", and what I felt from Jesus when I Held him was unlike Anything I've Ever felt before - A Lifetime of Love Every Second - It brought me to Sobbing and it changed my life, Forever. I've had Many experiences since, "Several witnessed". A voice Spoke Clearly into my ear, "Go Visit Your Father Today.", hours before he passed. When I prayed if I could leave this world my body spoke a word Without My Permission I Never Heard Before, "Malarkey". Hours before a major surgery a Bright orb of light Passed across my face. God and Jesus ARE real! Truly Love God & Everyone! I believe Prayer, Following God's laws & Love is the answer, and through that, Truly becoming Humble, Merciful, Welcoming, Giving, Gentle, Respectful, Compassionate, Patient, Kind and Forgiving, To All. 7
Radar Minotaur - quick death, or incredible glory - there is no in-between. Great play by Trenlass, got lucky a couple of times, but his patience in torpedoing the Napoli - total class move.
I'm in a chain of Jingles' videos going from a Scharnhorst vid then a Scharnhorst in Tears of the desert vid and now a Tears of the desert video, listening to the same description of the ship or the map word for word Oo
I am pretty sure this is a reference to one of Aerroons videos from way back when this map was a circle and any cruiser who tried to play the objective would inevitably get blapped by battleship overmatch
A foot of rain in the last 24 hours, and it’s gonna rain all day today. At least I’ve got a Jingles video to distract me from staring out the window. Maybe by the time the tanks video drops Thursday it will have stopped.
I did (reasonably) well in a radar mino on ocean once. I don't remember if we won, but I count it as a win. After that experience, any map feels great.
Me: *planning on finally falling asleep* Jingles: Howdy folks. Hope you’re having a good one, and welcome back to World of Warships with Rear Admiral Jingles. Me: welp…sleep can wait after this vid
The only bad side with this video, now there is going to be more Minos with Radar instead of smoke.... Wait, that might be a good thing... As mentioned, you need to be skilled to choose Radar over Smoke.
No, this is the Wows Summer 2024 experience. Trenlass might have paid a few of his own teammates to return and actually play. I don't think I have seen an non-yolo push in weeks.
Wow it's been years since I've watched a jingles video, glad to see it back in me recommended. I quit after the cv change completely opinionated, but I liked the high-risk high reward gameplay of limited planes but lots of damage vs unlimited planes and limited damage. I get they had to do it, and I know there is amazing cv players out there pumping out big numbers still unfortunately for me I just lost the trill of the hunt.
I always play my Minotaur without smoke, but unlike Trenlass in this video - who btw has STAGGERING amounts of experience with all kinds of ships in this game compared to me and probably a more level head for strategizing properly - whenever I get spotted in it, EVERYTHING that is in range, targets me until my Minotaur becomes an immobile sunken wreck.
I am definitely one of those players trolled into buying the Belfast '43, thinking it was the Tier 7 Belfast. I found out though that its superior to the Cleveland in competitive battles due to having torps and if just facing tier 8 and below, it actually does pretty well.
Love to see HMCS Ontario come in as a premium Minotaur. Probably with HE and Regular AP, radar no smoke. To go with the similar to the Canadian DD’s I’d love to see a similar spec HMCS Uganda (Fiji class)
I'm about 500 battles in with the radar mino and I would say 2 things about this battle, apart from the obvious that the enemy players didn't do their best! First, at least 30% of the time if you play like this a BB will snipe you from the other side of the map. Second, almost everyone underestimates how fast you can do damage at close range in a mino. I think I did about 100k in 40 seconds once. If you're not 100% sure you can kill it with one salvo don't engage in any other ship!
The old man is actually wrong (surprise lol) about saying no islands are safe for CAs on that map. There certainly are islands you can use and abuse without exposing yourself, and still being able to engage targets pretty much risk free. You just need to have map awereness and position yourself wisely relative to any threats displayed on the minimap. You may not be able to use all your turrets all the time, but that's fine. And ofc, know when to reposition in time.
I'm amused that the team score replay bug has been showing up so much lately that it's no longer even mentioned when it happens. We all just kinda assume.
Not quite. Shell arc is not = shell arc. High velocity shells have a flatter trajectory --> will not be able to overcome (higher) islands The trajectory of a shell is not uniformly dome shaped. It is flatter at the beginning and then drops down in a steeper angle as it loses speed. Thus you can get hit sitting close to an island but cannot shoot back at the ship hitting you.
When I thought i was getting better at the game, I started running radar instead of smoke on my minotaur. You can get some serious surprise kills that way, since most people assume smoke. But, yeah, it's very dangerous. And, this video goes to show: if you have a line of fire on a minotaur... SHOOT THE MINOTAUR. They're giant piles of damage dealing hell held together by just enough armour to keep the water out. The glassiest of glass cannons, so if you let them live, someone will feel all the pain as a result. Love the ship, though.
wait. is the points thing in replays bugged? this is the second vid (sorry, been busy) where I see Jingles saying a team is in the lead, but the reply shows the opposite to be true. like, right as I have the vid paused at 12:16 it shows our Mino player's team is at 172 points, while the enemy team is at 972
That Napolis was behaving a lot like a linked macro. Willing to bet that was a multiboxer in the Belfast 43 Edit: WG "Balance" Since having a multiboxer on only one team would be "Unbalanced", that Smolensk... watch what it does... (It's apparently linked to the Benson)
"I canät believe he does not know that ship X has torpedoes", just how manu hundred ships are available in he game? How many different armouir layouts, radars, smoke screens and torpedo option are there?
I have no words to question some of the logic of the enemy team players, specifically the Worchester. WHHHHYYYYY would you not shoot at the broadside Minotaur and instead go for a bow tanking Bismark??
Trenlass has an opinion about smoke Minotaurs viz:
Trenlass eyeing off enemy Minotaur: "Do you have smoke or radar?"
Enemy Minotaur smokes up.
Trenlass: "You have chosen poorly!"
If you see 18km range on a Mino (99%) - it's a smoke. Don't know how anybody aims at that range though.
@@connycontainer9459 Seems like aiming with a Mino is challenging at most ranges. Those shells are mighty floaty.
@@BobReed1 Yeah, getting really, really close helps though :)
@@BobReed1yeah, I’ve felt like a complete mug missing juking DDs at ~10km
I know I share this a lot, but Please, I'm Not lying.
Jesus Is real. Millions across the world are having experiences, From All Beliefs, with Proof.
Please. Don't turn your back on God for man's commandments. Seek. Pray. Love. Forgive~
~
A few years ago I repented to God then Prayed for help, "I was until then an Atheist."
I then had a dream of Jesus coming before God and he spoke of the Tabernacle in Perfect context, "A word I didn't know existed.", and what I felt from Jesus when I Held him was unlike Anything I've Ever felt before - A Lifetime of Love Every Second - It brought me to Sobbing and it changed my life, Forever.
I've had Many experiences since, "Several witnessed".
A voice Spoke Clearly into my ear, "Go Visit Your Father Today.", hours before he passed. When I prayed if I could leave this world my body spoke a word Without My Permission I Never Heard Before, "Malarkey". Hours before a major surgery a Bright orb of light Passed across my face.
God and Jesus ARE real! Truly Love God & Everyone!
I believe Prayer, Following God's laws & Love is the answer, and through that, Truly becoming Humble, Merciful, Welcoming, Giving, Gentle, Respectful, Compassionate, Patient, Kind and Forgiving, To All. 5
The Napoli is a coal ship. And Trenlass has a CC only stealth camo that makes enemy ships ignore you and shoot the angled BB 20 km farther away. Flambass has the same camo
Napoli is coal ship. That Napoli here is Napoli B, a Black Friday version. You are right about stealth camo though. 🤣
Trenlass was wearing his plot armor that day. 😂Can't believe all the enemy players refusing to even look at him!
While simultaniously showing broadside all the time. 😂 That wasn't a win, that was a present.
@@rainerfantasie9573 Mino is basically all broadside, but some sides ARE broader than others. 😂
Only 700k potential damage. I had that less than 5 minutes into a match every time back before I gave up on WG's lust letter to Russian fantasy
It's worth noting, that Trenlass did 100k damage in 5mins, cranking that up to 200k damage in 10mins. Quite impressive, given the circumstances :)
11:34 "If you look at the minimap, there is another friendly battleship the Giuseppe Verdi just off to Trenlass's right."
Jingles, that ship is to your left.
Thats Jingles, everything is correct.
Tears of the Cruisers and a radar Minotaur? Yes, please!
Thank you jingles for the Video
Happy Bday 🥳🥳
Interesting to know that we're only a few days apart. I'll follow soon.
Alles Gute zum Geburtstag Tren
@@rolandhellmann3819 thanks guys
No Jingles he's not onto something. That's Trenlass... 226k damage isn't what normal players do.
Trenlass has been a favorite of mine for years. He's really helped me learn how the game should be played.
i think i was his 9th YT subscriber. he's skilled and always humble. i love that.
He's a gem.
I have a vague memory that tears of the Desert used to be worse. A different configuration, or different island patten. I know it used to have an Epicenter mode.
In any case, it was almost impossible for any cruiser to find cover without being dangerously close to the enemy.
Oh yeah! The Map was reworked in 2018. They basically rotated it 90 degrees and elongated the island chains.
Back in the day, the map on epicenter was an ordeal for the destroyers in the middle
@@shoukatsukai Yeah. DDs would rush middle. Hide behind the island, and wait for the other ships to do something while they all hung back.
Trenlass is awesome i watch his channel all the time a really good player.
There is more to the history of this maps nickname, back when the layout was different, and cruisers would head into the middle of the map to get munched by the battleships. Also, there was less overall cover for cross mapping, when it was a north-south oriented battle, so again, cruisers could be get slapped. This version of the map is a lot more reasonable than it use to be 🙂
And it's still a load of hot garbage for cruisers so what did we learn today? WG *REALLY* enjoys cruiser tears.
I know I share this a lot, but Please, I'm Not lying.
Jesus Is real. Millions across the world are having experiences, From All Beliefs, with Proof.
Please. Don't turn your back on God for man's commandments. Seek. Pray. Love. Forgive~
~
A few years ago I repented to God then Prayed for help, "I was until then an Atheist."
I then had a dream of Jesus coming before God and he spoke of the Tabernacle in Perfect context, "A word I didn't know existed.", and what I felt from Jesus when I Held him was unlike Anything I've Ever felt before - A Lifetime of Love Every Second - It brought me to Sobbing and it changed my life, Forever.
I've had Many experiences since, "Several witnessed".
A voice Spoke Clearly into my ear, "Go Visit Your Father Today.", hours before he passed. When I prayed if I could leave this world my body spoke a word Without My Permission I Never Heard Before, "Malarkey". Hours before a major surgery a Bright orb of light Passed across my face.
God and Jesus ARE real! Truly Love God & Everyone!
I believe Prayer, Following God's laws & Love is the answer, and through that, Truly becoming Humble, Merciful, Welcoming, Giving, Gentle, Respectful, Compassionate, Patient, Kind and Forgiving, To All. 7
New video just as I'm going to bed... Oh well, sleep can wait :D
Yup! :D
Yeah I was just staying up hoping for it
It’s a good thing I don’t sleep :)
Sleep is for the weak keep mining gnomes
What is sleep
Great replay to wake up to, It is 05:13 hours here in NE Indiana.
Nice to see Trenlass here. Radar Mino is really good, the radar on this is amazing and you might get a smokescreen from a nice dd here and there
Radar Minotaur - quick death, or incredible glory - there is no in-between. Great play by Trenlass, got lucky a couple of times, but his patience in torpedoing the Napoli - total class move.
Trespass gave the Master class on using a light cruiser!
yup on the cruiser traps...Trenlass is tough to beat.
I really don't have much of an issue playing cruisers on this map, and I quite like it actually.
Obviously Cherman Yahh??
Can't sleep. Thank you Jingles
That was a good battle, but also one of those battles that are fairly boring to look at, as the enemy team rolled over without much fuss.
The moment I saw this video was about Trenlass in a Minotaur, I thought, "I bet it's a Radar-Mino.", because Trenlass is just that kind of madman. 😇
Trenlass is just so skilled with this thing...
Nice video full of action Jingles!
My Daily dose of Trenlass playing Minotaur. LOL already before starting.
Loved it Old man, these young whipper snappers really do come out with some good content
I'm in a chain of Jingles' videos going from a Scharnhorst vid then a Scharnhorst in Tears of the desert vid and now a Tears of the desert video, listening to the same description of the ship or the map word for word Oo
Trenless is a madman having 2 set of balls
Sweet. xmas came early this summer. thanx mate.
hope youre feeling well love watching your vids while playing WoW
Thank you! 😎💙
The old "devil face in a tie" map, did always enjoy it.
My tier viii cruisers make me cry. Every time I play them. Nothing in my fleet gets double up tiered like they do.
Nice a jingles commentated trenlass game lets goo
I see that Trenlass have been playing way too much with Flambino, who have given him bad influence 😂
Enemy team: Hey guys. Avoid Trenlass at all costs. We are going to be in UA-cam video.
Trenlass: They are not shooting at me. I wonder why....hmm.
I am pretty sure this is a reference to one of Aerroons videos from way back when this map was a circle and any cruiser who tried to play the objective would inevitably get blapped by battleship overmatch
Dude, I love how much fun you sound like you're having. "He should've known the Minotaur has torpedoes. Well he knows now! " 7:46
Brilliant Battle by Trenlass!!!
A foot of rain in the last 24 hours, and it’s gonna rain all day today. At least I’ve got a Jingles video to distract me from staring out the window. Maybe by the time the tanks video drops Thursday it will have stopped.
"You think you lured me into the maze?! I'm the Minotaur!"
- Bald Egg
I did (reasonably) well in a radar mino on ocean once. I don't remember if we won, but I count it as a win.
After that experience, any map feels great.
Jingles: The friendly Guiseppe Verdi beeing on his right
Me looking at minimap: thats left, jingles!
never change please 🙂
The Minotaur is the ship in which I had some of my best games but far, far more of my worst games.
Me: *planning on finally falling asleep*
Jingles: Howdy folks. Hope you’re having a good one, and welcome back to World of Warships with Rear Admiral Jingles.
Me: welp…sleep can wait after this vid
very well played - Jingles your next challenge is to find a Yūgumo with no smoke game
A wild Memetaur spotted! This gonna be good :D
i love you jingle bingle
The only bad side with this video, now there is going to be more Minos with Radar instead of smoke....
Wait, that might be a good thing... As mentioned, you need to be skilled to choose Radar over Smoke.
Did Trenlass pay those Guys to play that bad? Lol No its probably just an average Weekend Game
No, this is the Wows Summer 2024 experience. Trenlass might have paid a few of his own teammates to return and actually play. I don't think I have seen an non-yolo push in weeks.
The RPF switching direction could mean the sub was 20k away.... but more likely, it meant the sub submerged.
Jingles... yer crap, that GV was off to his left, not right xD
Wow it's been years since I've watched a jingles video, glad to see it back in me recommended. I quit after the cv change completely opinionated, but I liked the high-risk high reward gameplay of limited planes but lots of damage vs unlimited planes and limited damage. I get they had to do it, and I know there is amazing cv players out there pumping out big numbers still unfortunately for me I just lost the trill of the hunt.
I always play my Minotaur without smoke, but unlike Trenlass in this video - who btw has STAGGERING amounts of experience with all kinds of ships in this game compared to me and probably a more level head for strategizing properly - whenever I get spotted in it, EVERYTHING that is in range, targets me until my Minotaur becomes an immobile sunken wreck.
If I played my Mino in open water just for a second, every ship on the enemy team would shoot at me at the same time!
Omg it's a radar minotaur
Sweet game
Jingles -RPF doesn't work on submerged submarines, because reasons
Yup. Absolutely right. That sub could have been 3km away, underwater, and rpf would still point at the BB 20kn away.
The lesson I learned here is if in a cruiser keep moving and hope for a bit of luck to be successful on this map.
I would love to have a game like that where the enemy team basically refuses to shoot me at all.
Roma to the left of me, Napoli to the right, here i am, stuck in the middle with you!
Is that how you Worcester?🤣
Edit: Lot of paid actors in this match....
Radar Memetaur FTW. Only proper way to play Minotaur!
Once again, UA-cam has failed to tell me this video has dropped.
Radar Mino in the right hands (not mine) can be absolutely brutal!
Majority of this is down to severe misplay on the enemy side.
I am definitely one of those players trolled into buying the Belfast '43, thinking it was the Tier 7 Belfast. I found out though that its superior to the Cleveland in competitive battles due to having torps and if just facing tier 8 and below, it actually does pretty well.
Giuseppe Verde is my favorite French BB.
Jingles really butcherd it today, LOL
@@wheelerzg76 It's his WoWs nemesis.
One day, can you make a submarin video, like for learning? even if it's a less fun game at least we can see what it's look like?
9:25 that's a mistake that kills most people , a submarine always have a firing angle at you .
thanks Jingles
Its the saving grace of even op premiums, by my, VERY anecdotal experience, about 50% of those ships i see dont exactly make the best decisions.
Yippieeeee 😮🎉
Love to see HMCS Ontario come in as a premium Minotaur. Probably with HE and Regular AP, radar no smoke. To go with the similar to the Canadian DD’s I’d love to see a similar spec HMCS Uganda (Fiji class)
A lot of unrest over in the UK it seems, keep your head down Jingles.
i hope yuo keeping well, Mr. Jingles
Good afternoon Gnome Overlord. All the best.
I'm about 500 battles in with the radar mino and I would say 2 things about this battle, apart from the obvious that the enemy players didn't do their best! First, at least 30% of the time if you play like this a BB will snipe you from the other side of the map. Second, almost everyone underestimates how fast you can do damage at close range in a mino. I think I did about 100k in 40 seconds once. If you're not 100% sure you can kill it with one salvo don't engage in any other ship!
I've never understood why any ship should hide behind island.
Better (and more fun) to roam the opens sea.
Never been this early for a video, hello!
Shames on you oh mighty overlord
The Belfast 1942 is her pre her 1959 refit 😉
The old man is actually wrong (surprise lol) about saying no islands are safe for CAs on that map. There certainly are islands you can use and abuse without exposing yourself, and still being able to engage targets pretty much risk free. You just need to have map awereness and position yourself wisely relative to any threats displayed on the minimap. You may not be able to use all your turrets all the time, but that's fine. And ofc, know when to reposition in time.
Bruh what was this cruiser matchmaking? The reds were cooked from the start🤣🤣
To top it off the three cruisers basically came 1st, 2nd, 3rd (not counting the sub cos of busted exp mechanic)
That was impressive!
I'm amused that the team score replay bug has been showing up so much lately that it's no longer even mentioned when it happens. We all just kinda assume.
Moskva's 220mm guns cannot overmatch 13mm of plating. And Minotaur is squishy on the outside, and chocolate on the inside.
Shel arc is a 2 way street... If you can lob them, they can get lobbed back at you.......
Not quite.
Shell arc is not = shell arc.
High velocity shells have a flatter trajectory --> will not be able to overcome (higher) islands
The trajectory of a shell is not uniformly dome shaped. It is flatter at the beginning and then drops down in a steeper angle as it loses speed.
Thus you can get hit sitting close to an island but cannot shoot back at the ship hitting you.
i think the enemy team is all bots.
When I thought i was getting better at the game, I started running radar instead of smoke on my minotaur. You can get some serious surprise kills that way, since most people assume smoke. But, yeah, it's very dangerous. And, this video goes to show: if you have a line of fire on a minotaur... SHOOT THE MINOTAUR. They're giant piles of damage dealing hell held together by just enough armour to keep the water out. The glassiest of glass cannons, so if you let them live, someone will feel all the pain as a result. Love the ship, though.
wait. is the points thing in replays bugged? this is the second vid (sorry, been busy) where I see Jingles saying a team is in the lead, but the reply shows the opposite to be true. like, right as I have the vid paused at 12:16 it shows our Mino player's team is at 172 points, while the enemy team is at 972
Wish I could play that good
.. jingles, the adatara is apparently a japanese BC
That Napolis was behaving a lot like a linked macro. Willing to bet that was a multiboxer in the Belfast 43
Edit: WG "Balance"
Since having a multiboxer on only one team would be "Unbalanced", that Smolensk... watch what it does... (It's apparently linked to the Benson)
I've been running into an awful lot of radar Minos lately. Did Tren show them all how to play without smoke?
"I canät believe he does not know that ship X has torpedoes", just how manu hundred ships are available in he game? How many different armouir layouts, radars, smoke screens and torpedo option are there?
I have no words to question some of the logic of the enemy team players, specifically the Worchester. WHHHHYYYYY would you not shoot at the broadside Minotaur and instead go for a bow tanking Bismark??
i aways call this map tears of a clooney
Gnome petrol hit like button coffee ☕ smoke 🚬 😮😮😮
In his own words "only real Mino players take radar"
"at some point you gonna learn"
looks at player base...
are you sure about that?