Why Kodlak Whitemane Is A Genius - Skyrim Companions Lore
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- Kodlak Whitemane, the Harbinger of the Companions in Whiterun, might not appear an intellectual in the Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim but he is far smarter than most other NPC's.
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I feel like it would be more appropriate to consider him wise than intelligent
I thought the same actaully
Albertosn3 it is far more accurate
Yes that's a more correct statement. Wise with experience
Wisdom is just a combination of firsthand experience along with intelligence. But indeed he is both. And he does command respect.
rejvaik I don't agree entirely one can have wisdom even if they lack intelligence but intelligence does further reinforce ones wisdom
A shame you don't see him as much in the questline compared to the other guild leaders.
I really thought he was lost potential while playing the questline
Which is weird because vilkas always says "he speaks fondly of you" and things similar making it seem like your best friends and yet you do one task for him before he's butchered
I would've loved to hear his advice/ wisdom more.
Use better companions mod. It was very satisfyng. Youll have to do small jobs first to be accepted in circle. You can spar with newcomers first. After youre in circle you can spar circle members. Then you can actually choose if you want to be a werewolf of not
@@AlaisDahen Yes, same!
Goes to join the Companions with a full dragonbone armor, after winning the civil war, defeating alduin miraak and harkon, archmage of winterhold, thane in every hold and destroyer of dark brotherhood.
Kodlak: "A certain strength of spirit"
Me: ok that is one way to put it...
Vilkas:"i HaVe NeVeR hEaRd Of ThIs OuTsIdEr"
me: dude you saw me kill a dragon just before I entered this hall XD
Bethesda need to know about this. Whenever you join a guild, members of the guild may recognize player's current status
@@777Syarif if your apart of the thieves guild "Why are we letting a thief into the companions?"
Winterhold "A mage? I don't think a mage can be a warrior"
And so on
*Has a legendary dragonbone greatsword that has flame and the chaos damage enchantment
Kodlak: Go see our blacksmith to get a better weapon that... Whatever that is
“Dude you just saw me hurl one of my throwing greatswords into a dragons head”
Most of them do not care what happen to skyrim. As long as they complete missions and get gold.
For the Companions
For KODLAK
For Kodlak
For The NCR.... Oh, wrong game
For Kodlak
For Kodlak
For Kodlak
RedHood FOR KODLAK
Fun fact, Bethesda got inspired by Czech word Vlkodlak, which means Werewolf in English. So whenever they say "For Kodlak" It sounds to me like Vlkodlak. It makes me happy
I have to admit Kodlak was an instant favourite the moment I met him. He is honourable which in my opinion is a key trait in a true warrior. He is also wise, down to earth and fair. When he died I legitimately felt anger, I felt a drive, a need to avenge him despite his apparent not caring for vengeance; and I felt at peace when I helped him enter Sovangarde.
I liked that his soul led Hircine on a merry chase through skyrim by hiding in Ysgramors tomb. Like imagine being so determined to go to the afterlife of your choosing that you just refused to leave the living world until the way was opened. Probably the most badass reason to be a ghost really.
Angry spell sword werewolf noises ps I have irl angry issues and kodlak is tied with the smith
I always thought that they should have made the Silver Hand into their own subplot about a group of the companions that split away when the werewolf deal went down and they have carried out their traditions in order to restore the companions.
yeah, todd howard doesn't like you ... how dare you expect roleplaying in a $70 AAA game title...
@Henri Summers This. The discriminate killing of silver-hand was off putting, as you had no say in the matter. If for some reason the player had a dislike of werewolves or wanted a cure, he should have been given a chance to switch sides or at least hear the lore of silver hand just like in Dawnguard DLC.
I mean while you are correct, Kodlack is like the most respected person in Skyrim and if he said that the Silver Hand was the enemy the natural reaction would be everyone treating them no better than bandits
@August That's because they're poorly designed non-joinable factions so they have a mashup of lame leveled armor lol just like blackbloods or the blood horkers or the vigilants of stendarr. ALthough installing immersive armors remedies that slightly, for example some silverhand leaders now wear the mantle of the silverhand (werewolf skin)
Indeed when I first heard of them I thought hell yeah a group of fighters dedicated to the destruction of the beast yet losing themselves to the savagery of the hunt, can't wait to join.
Next: why nazeem should be condemned to oblivion
@@davidlennyman444 hey nazeem's life will be more meaningful if he becomes' sheogorath servant?
@@davidlennyman444 Why Nazeem is a Genius: He's made himself so unlikable no Daedra will keep him in their realm, nor the Ideal Masters would want to eat his soul and thus guarantees himself a better afterlife.
@@Snickersnek Molag Bal (Hellraiser) begs to differ.
I soul trap him he’s a slave to the ideal masters now and his soul powers my boots
@@Anomaly-uz9pr Is his soul even black? He's a petty guy
Kodlak Whitemane,
Kodak Black,
Something happened down the bloodline.
Donteze Kodak black is ugly af and so is kodlak
@Theophilus the homeless ohhh, shots fired!
@Theophilus the homeless Not wrong
@Theophilus the homeless racist much?
@Theophilus the homeless Oh! So, you're racist *and* too dumb to make sense. Oh, and save your insults for weak minds such as your own. Dumbass!
Kodlak was not responsible for non nord allowance into the companions. In truth it’s been like that for a long time. Kodlak just continues it cause he sees the wisdom in the saying ‘Even an Elf can be born with the heart of a Nord.’ Which is in reference to the first Elven Harbinger, named on the death bed of his predecessor. Said elf was a High Elf, If I recall
I love daddy KOCKLAG, he is an equal opportunity employer.
@nathan smith yeah, everyone harps on about how racist the nords are for being possessive of their land (just like everyone else mind you). Meanwhile the high elves literally want to kill all humans.
High elves are fun once you get past the layers of racism they absorbed from their upbringing in summerset. Same with Nords. I guess it wasn't hard for a high elf to adapt to living like a Nord. They have the smug sense of superiority down pat already.
@nathan smithso are Nords. They both lack self awareness and I hate it.
@@rddragonman correction, the Thalmor want to kill all humans. It's pretty clear that Ulfrics allies are right on the edge of the same line of thought about argonians and dark elves. The distinction between governments and the people they rule over is important.
Avarti: Kodlak's hardly a genius
Also Avarti: Puts 'Why Kodlak Whitemane is a genius' as the title
Gotta keep to the format and get that clickbait
I think you misunderstood why he said that...
The word hardly is a synonym for barely. Barely passing is still passing.
He probably meant he hardly shows his genius
@@cherrycola4476 that's not how it is used in common parlance. In fact, thats the exact opposite of what it means.
He isn't all that intelligent. What he is exceedingly wise. He understands people and isn't full of himself. He is a humble, pius man. All this combined makes him a truly superb leader. He knows he isn't all that smart but makes up for it with deliberation. He doesn't rush and is willing to listen to others to expand his outlook. Wisdom is often more valuable than intelligence as wisdom lets you proceed with confidence where a more intellectually superior person would be uncertain. Having both is wonderful, but all can cultivate wisdom. But few, whether they be geniuses or dullards, ever do.
Intelligence is hard to measure. Who is more intelligent: the man who summons daedra under his control or the man who leave Oblivion shut?
@@thomascarpenter3967 Hard to say.What is the reasons for the one who summons and the one who does not? One can argue this one any way they want.
@@jacobfreeman5444 I am simply trying to point out that intelligence comes in many forms. Literally conjuration is an intelligence based craft, but in practice it may be smarter to keep shut the doors to oblivion. Fucking with that stuff kind of led to a crisis in Cyrodiil.
Well put
Welp, as the old saying says "Intelligence is knowing that tomatoes are fruits. Wisdom is knowing not to put tomatoes on a fruit salad." That kinda sums up everything.
It was good to see him in Sovrngarde after he was released of his curse.
In fact, it doesn't matter what you do as a player, be you mage, trader or fighter, you'll be welcomed into the companions because you simply fight, and because harbingers are simply used for wisdom, it doesn't really go against anything if you can't fight like the others, so it works for any character for to join and become harbinger, especially if you want to learn how to up your one-handed, two handed, etc.
I remember Kodlak did kinda dis those who use stealth. Which kinda made it awkward for the ex-shadowscale I was role-playing as lol.
@@vestige1671 well , stealth is for assassination , stealing , and sneaking.
You would be god damn right to not trust someone with those skills.
@@decilence6184 true
Yes, the companions may be meat heads, but Aela got that meat elsewhere too *_if you know what I mean._*
*under all that fur*
@@Treegonaut OwO *notices the thicccness*
Really shows when you're using mod textures ;)
*didn't realize so many were into beastiality....like it rough in bed?* 😏
that explains the restless night debuff
I don't agree with your idea that most NPC's don't care about their afterlife. I think most NPC have no questions about their afterlife because their fate was determined at birth. A nord will end up in Sowngarde (unless he's a coward) because he was born in a nord family. An orc will join Malacath's heaven if he's loyal to the code. Religious people in our world have existential crisis and doubt because they can't have a direct contact with their god(s). Most gods in TES give you a clear step by step process for a happy afterlife and will directly tell you if you don't do it correctly. Just look what happens to Yamarz : Malacath tells him he's a cowards but gives him a chance to redeem himself.
Dispite being on the more aggressive side along with sjor, when kodlak summons you to talk about your attacks on the silver hand, aiela tell you to be truth full, even though she is brash and disagrees with his views she still respects and listens to his advice.
Kodlak is one of the most respectable lovable leader ever may he rest in sovengard
“For the fallen...we shout” right after that I face my character towards the sky and give out a 21 gun FUS RO DAH salute. To not do so at his funeral is down right disrespectful to Kodlak.
I legit teared up a little when I first found his body at the entrance of the mead hall after the Silver Hand had attacked. One of the better if not best quest lines in the game.
The whole Companions quest line could have been at least tripled in length. Seems so brief and rushed. Also, they could have had a better faction name. It’s like just calling yourselves The Friends or The Group.
@Some thing still sounds off.
Why Paarthurnax Is A Genius :D awesome vid btw :)
What do you think about the military leaders of Skyrim - General Tullius and Ulfric Stormcloak? What do you think about Elisif the Fair?
General tullius is lowkey a genius. He knows that the thalmor are not to be trusted but he still plays the submissive role luring them into a false calm. Ulfric is an Idiot. But im not gonna debate him. Elisif however lacks any real development tbh.
Diego Garcia LONG LIVE THE EMPIRE!!!
@@L.2.L LONG LIVE THE LEGION!!!!
Diego Garcia his hair though 😩
Diego Garcia Tullius is far from a genius. His own army say they serve the Empire before they even praise or show respect to their leader Tullius...he doesn’t even like or respect Skyrim as a country or their customs and culture. Which shows his unintelligence. Because if he respected the Nords more would join him and respect him...which they do not. Only one person shows visible respect and that’s Rikke and she’s constantly telling him that his approach to things is incorrect.
0:54 The silver hand burns down Jorvaskr...
Did we play different games?
2:40
The Snow Elves woke a sleeping giant. Ysgramor and his sons witnessed the barbarism of the Snow Elves as they slaughtered an entire city of his kinsmen and burnt it to the ground. Their indignance was righteous. If not for The Return, we may never have had the First Empire.
The Nords slaughtered an entire people based on a single provocation. Also, we only know that history because it is what the Nords say happened. History is written by the victor, and there are too few Snow Elves who can give a different viewpoint. What is known is that once the Snow Elves had been beaten, the Nords burned alive the survivors and enslaved the rest. Ysgramor was not fighting for justice, he was a psychotic maniac who wanted blood.
We also don't know the reason behind the Snow Elven attack to begin with. It is known that the Eye of Magnus was involved somehow or was at least present. Without knowing the circumstances there's really no way to judge either side for the attack. It is known that the Atmorans did not stop when the snow elves surrendered and they continued to hunt them down which indicates that they were at the very least aggressive and vengeful and could've conceivably provoked the Elves or given them reason not to trust them with the power within Saarthal.
@@kake1604 Yes, that's called setting an example. They murdered the Atmoran settlers, and the Atmorans came back to genocide a species. Worked out pretty well.
I may be wrong but didnt the snow elves attack the nords first becuase they were out breeding them and they feared the numbers may become to great
@@lordcommissar7813 Yep that is what happened.
Kodlack is one of the few npc I like. He is a wise man who was a great leader. He makes for a far better leader than a adventurer whom waltzed in a week ago. His death also happens off screen which always buged me. Suddenly the Silver Hand attacks when your gone. It would have made for a good quest if you were there. That is if Kodlack dies protecting you and the others. That would give it far more weight instead of it just happening.
They got pretty lazy trying to think of ways to kill off the old leaders of the guilds to justify making you the leader. Kind of lame, actually. It takes away any meaning. At least the thieves guild requires you to really work for it before they recognize you as their leader
@@ServantofBaal Yea but it is extremely boring. Though I like the effort put in just not what it has you do.
The Silver Hand did NOT "burn down Jorvaskr."
No but they did attack it.
@@eldarhighelfhealermiriella7653 So?
@@DarinRWagner well you are right they attacked but got beaten and had to retreat but managed to get a fatal blow on kodlak befor they did.
Which was dumb becuase they attacked when they had trouble with 2 people now they made enemies with the whole guild....
Not brightest of moves
Found him in Sovngarde right before the final fight with Alduin and was really sad that you can't lead him to Tsun so he could be admitted to Shor's Hall. Tsun actually comments that he's waiting for Kodlak if you pick the Companion's reason for admittance.
Kodlak is a very honourable leader therefore its such a shame that the questline barely allows us to interact with him at all where its so ridiculously fast paced.
Maybe the next could be Esbern the wise, 'cause holy shit that guy was right
Esberns wise though hes still a bit stupid since hes basically just a much smarter version of delphine
Esbern still stubbornly cannot see why Parthurnaax should be spared. For that he is either an idiot, which I doubt, or devoid of empathy.
@@arabiannights5301 he is only like that to force players to pick a side i think unlike Delphine there should have been at least some attempt to reason with him
@@CoyoTWil3 Yeah I agree, it felt pretty out of character for him to do that. Delphine is a very emotional person, Esbern on the other hand seems like he could see the rational side of anything.
nazzeem _
To be fair a Skeever infected with rock joint and drunk on mead is smarter than Delphine...and most likely more attractive.
Kodlak is probably my favorite character. My heart breaks every time I read his journal.
The first time I played through Skyrim, I was genuinely sad when Kodlak was killed - one of two NPCs I was properly upset were no longer with us - and even now on subsequent playthroughs I'm sad he's not around for longer & that we have so few opportunities to interact with him in a meaningful, quest oriented way.
The other I was genuinely sad about is Veezara, the Shadowscale Argonian in the Dark Brotherhood, and there again, even now, I'm always reminded at the end of that quest that it's a shame we don't get more chances to interact with Veezara in more meaningful ways because he seems *incredibly* interesting (I love Argonians & their lore).
He always reminded me of jeor Mormont from game of thrones
Or general iroh from avatar....
Doesnt lycanthropy give disease resistance? If he is a werewolf how is he possibly sick?
He considers lycanthropy the sickness, as he discovers that companions weren't always werewolves. A witch long ago offered the companions power, but did not tell them that their souls would be tied to heircine. Kodlak wanted to be cured so he can go to sovengarde.
@@_Linre_ that's not what he meant. How does Kodlak have the rot if he is a werewolf? Beast blood gives a person a 100% resistance to disease, so with that logic Kodlak should be immune to rot. Come to think of it, where does it even state that Kodak had a disease? I think he was just old and tired of fighting
@@CarbonKrazie Some warriors consider their aging a terminal sickness and that's not something lycanthropy would protect from.
Only other npcs I had respect for was the elder shaman of the Skaal village and paarthurnax
Kodlak and Balgruuf being leaders in White Run is what makes White Run the best hold in all of Skyrim
Next Video: Why Paarthurnax is a lovable dragon.
So I was just playing this quest line today and I can't get over how fucking good your graphics mod is. Godamn it looks incredible.
I'm on ps4, so unfortunately don't get it thus good. Even with mods.
I've a soft spot for Farkas honestly, he's my favourite companion and always my spouse
I agree about the graphics. I too play on a ps4 and although we do have mods we can download, nothing compares to the graphics in a pc. It makes the game look so damn beautiful and I didn’t think it was even possible to make the game look any better than it already does.
@@elizabethparrott8810 Oh No! The "PC Master Race" approaches!
Can you do a video on why you shouldn't join the Stormcloaks?
Basically
Even if the Stormcloaks win
The Empire will just bring in the ACTUAL army (not just some random nord farmers from Skyrim) and destroy them
The actual empire is 100s of times stronger than the Skyrim branch
Because if the stormcloacks win the empire will be weaker to the thalmor and possibly lose then skyrim will be a sitting duck
Join whoever because the longer the war goes on the more the thalmor benefits. Damn Elves
Honestly I’m tired of the Stormcloak hate. They’re not even that bad. N all the “evidence” that they are is shallow at best especially the Thalmor document argument 🙄
@@nazzeem_4388 If Hammerfell could defeat the Thalmor without the help of the Empire, why not Skyrim?
3:16 - One of the companions teleports back after a mission.
LOL I didn't notice her the first time! I *believe* that's Ria... could be wrong though.
She’s back from killing a bear so she can rub it in your face tomorrow.
I don't like getting bears rubbed in my face...
Metal Gamer “Oh hey there, I killed a bear yesterday, did you kill anything?”
Did Talos really gain the power of CHIM and if so where is he now?
CHIM*, but great question
CHIM, CHIN in the power used by Chin Chin.
To answer your question; yes he did. His magically enhanced chiseled chin was an awe inspiring sight and made men far and wide feel jealous and inferior. It was quite the chick magnet, breaking up many a marriage during its reign. Yes, you hear me right, ITS reign, the chin was the true ruler of the empire, and it controlled Talos like the puppet he was, a testament to how it was a truly superior being, unworthy to be gazed upon by us mere humans. It is rumored that by the time of Talos death his chin had grown to reach the floor in lenght. The elder scrolls has some of the best lore I've ever read.
To be honest if this had been an actual piece of lore I wouldn't even have gotten shocked by this point, I mean, the first Cyrodilic empress's lover was a flying demi god minotaur. I hereby declare my weird ass fan chin lore addition to be canon, bY tHe POwEr oF tHe ELdEr SCrOLLs.
Edit: spelling mistakes.
@@lepidus2918
Thanks
@@fannywidell2270
That's pretty funny.
How about Skjor's genius Of casting a resurrection spell on himself before doing a suicide charge into the silverhand?
Wait what do you mean that doesn't happen? I watched him claw his way out of the ground south of Dawnstar! That couldn't have been a bug! He gives quests again and everything!
Why did you say that unlike other MALE characters in the elder scrolls Kodlak isn't obsessed with power and authority, then list Astrid as an example of an authority hungry leader?
Dᴇɢᴇɴᴇʀᴀᴛᴇ-ᴋᴜɴ ᴛʜᴇ Dʀᴜɴᴋ 'ɴ' Hɪɢʜ I don’t know why this comment made me laugh 🤣
Cause women are too unimportant to come far in their search for power
*now shut the fuck up Lydia and make me a sandwich*
Because most MALE characters are obsessed with power , only one that doesn't quite ring the bell is the Jarl of Whiterun.
That said the elder scrolls games are based in times where survival is key , the females of the past did the wiser thing of letting males do the hard things like hunting while they stay at home and serve the family.
@@decilence6184
I feel like you didn't understand my question.
I'm asking why say (erroneously) that most MALE leaders in the Elder Scrolls are obsessed with authority, then give Astrid, a FEMALE, as an example. He could have given a male example, or just not specify the gender at all.
Kodlack has always been my favorite character. He's so kind and wise and has this grandfatherly aura about him. He's awesome.
Kodlak makes it clear that he seeks to cure himself to be able to join Sovngarde though. He does not look down upon or finds wrong following Hircine's way.
About Kodlak being responsible for the lack of racism within the Companions, that is not accurate, there have been many elves within the companions, some time during the Second Era one was even the Harbinger.
Justin Carson only reason he became harbinger is he outlived the older ones and only younger people were left so he was the only option
@@Fenris2 No idea where you got that idea. People continue to age even when elves are around so the younger people when he joined became older while new people came in so there were still veteran members when he joined. Age isn't a factor in someone becoming a harbinger anyway, anyone in the companions at any age are still qualified to be the next Harbinger. This idea he was the only option is incorrect.
i truly wish kodlak whitemane was the jarl of windhelm instead of ulfric =V
Pretty sure you meant to use ''Wise'' not genius, he didnt do anything that would give him a spot in an academy. Ysolda is more of a genius.
Wait Kodlak has a disease yet werewolfs in in this game have a 100% resistance to diseases?
EXACTLY!!!
Cheers to Kodlak for letting other races join the Companions.
I remember the first time I got that axe from them. I was going "ooohhh what great power does this have I must... more damage to elves. ah... you.. you know I am an elf right? this ah.. this doesn't feel right."
Well met kin slayer
Kodlak was definitely the best leader or the factions between the Companions, College, Thieves Guild, and Brotherhood.
Unlike Mercer, he cared about the potential consequences of his actions and how his life and afterlife would be in the long term.
Unlike Savos, he cared about his reputation about his guild and despite that they may not be what they use too, they still suffered the least compared to the other factions.
Unlike Astrid, he was humble with his authority and wouldn’t jeopardize the Companions just for the sake of having things his way.
I always hold back my tears whenever I read Kodlak's journal. it's one thing I never-NEVER!- remove from my inventory
Fun fact, Bethesda got inspired by Czech word Vlkodlak, which means Werewolf in English. So whenever they say "For Kodlak" It sounds to me like Vlkodlak :)
Kodlak is that one character that makes you scream at the monitor because everyone keeps ignoring what he says and doing stupid things that he warned them against.
l have a question:lf the companions dont like being werewolves then why force people to become wearwolfs just to get a promotion? after a few years (generations?) none of the companians would be wearwolves (unless they wanted to be and knew the risks)
@WikiThis this.
I hate that you can't be a Companion and be a vampire at the same time.
Could you do a video on Vivec? What happened to him and is it possible he still lives?
So what about Savos Aren? I feel like he's only REALLY the Archmage because of formality; plenty of people show more intelligence then he, and you never get to see him use any sort of impressive magic to signify he's gifted in that area. (Though perhaps the souls of his allies bound to keep a dragon priest at bay in Labyrinthian might be an example, it is never truly explained as something Savos did himself and is only inferred.) When you speak to him, it's almost as though he's exhasperated, repeating things that he repeats on a daily basis, and very rarely shows any true interest in what's happening around him, only becoming interested when you dismiss his own words, that the Augur of Dunlain doesn't exist, and actually speak to the Augur. And even then, he sends you off to someone else to get information, as though he couldn't be bothered remembering the details of a conversation with Mirabelle he had *a week ago*. This, and hiding that he knows the player has to go to Labyrinthian the whole time.
Mirabelle and Faralda both say the former really runs things at the college. Conversations between Mirabelle and Savos make it even clearer that he really doesn't get involved in running the organization, and prefers it that way.
In Skyrim werewolves are immune to sickness, so how Kodlak can get infected with rot ??
Diseases from traps can bypass the immunity. The bigger question is how he was too stupid to cure it, with a shrine, temple, and alchemist all a few steps away.
Ngl, I have no problem hunting in Hircine's plane for eternity with Aela at my side (I marry her in most playthroughs), but I still respect Kodlak's wishes to be in Sovengarde.
Waiting for the “Why Eorlund Gray-Mane is a genius”
These character videos are great, keep them coming!
anyone who participates in real combat will know that fighting is more than who has the bigger mussels, predicting your opponents movements, feint an attack to deliver an unexpected jab towards the vitals, and I've barely even scratched the surface of marital arts. it takes both brain and brawn to win a fight.
I was surprised when i met him in Sovngarde didn’t expect him to be remembered as a hero
For the record the Rules/Guide lines say that the companions as a hole are supposed to remain neutral at all times as far as politics go.
Something I don't understand, How did the SilverHand manage to get into Whiterun without being stopped by the guards, break into Jorrvaskr, kill Kodlak (the Harbinger of the Companions) and steal the fragments of Wuuthrad, and get away with it?
Avarti will you do this series for characters in Oblivion also i would like to see your take on them are they Idiots or Geniuses.
How about 'Why Ulfric is an Idiot'
He started a Civil war that was completly and unnecessary and (depending on the players choice) sealed his own fate by doing so.
to clarify, because I know I'm gonna get down voted for this ^^
after the White gold concordance was singned the worship of thalos was made illegal, everyone knows that part, but what most people seam to miss is that this ban was not actually enforced in skyrim until after the Markath incident, where Ulfric demanded that the Jarl of Markath go against the dominion and legalise the worship of Thalos. Of course the elves didn't like that and in turn demanded that the Empire stayed true to the peace contract, that saved it from total annihilation.
So while the worship of Thalos was banned in skyrim since after the war, it has only recently been enforced by the Thalmor, and only because of Ulfrics actions
Dr.feelalright exactly plus the people of Markath ASKED for his help while saying they’ll let him worship Talos. He liberated their city THEN used him as a scapegoat when the Thalmor came knocking instead of having a degree of integrity. Plus in prison the man lost his father and literally had to smuggle out a letter to pay his respects. Skyrim turned it’s back on him and he still wants to give it its independence. Like y’all blame Ulfric for everything but both the Empire and Skyrim screwed him and the Civil War is justifiable because are you people seriously telling me that it’s completely fine having these random ass people coming around kidnapping people and killing them because people saying they’re worshipping someone? Are you saying it’s fine to let a king who won’t even defend his throne or his people be king? Are you really okay with an Empire who just enforces rules upon people without asking? I’m not saying everything Ulfric does is right, but goddamn the points y’all choose to pick on are asinine.
@Dr.feelalright
Except it's an old forgotten tradition. I know Nords are all about respecting the old ways, but dueling for leadership is simply outdated, even by Skyrims standard. He basically pulled an old custom from it's grave so that he could have an explanation for what he did. If I killed the president, I'm not gonna become the next president, I'm gonna get the fucking death sentence. Murder is still a crime in Skyrim, Ulfric simply used an old custom to justify it.
@@bullseye5262
Funny how you mention the kidnapping & killing, that stuff only happened AFTER Ulfric made his demands.
Think about it this way: The Dominion gave the Empire demands, the Empire SAID they'd agree to them, but behind the Dominion's back they ignored alot of the demands. People were still worshipping Talos across Skyrim & Cyrodiil. But because Ulfric is stubborn & can't think ahead, his demands caught the attention of the Dominion, now they've established an embassy in Skyrim, they send out patrols to hunt down Talos worshippers, and the Empire is under even more pressure from the Dominion....all because Ulfric couldn't keep his mouth shut. If he simply helped Markarth & let that be it, everybody would've been better off.
The "rule enforcer" Empire you see in Skyrim only enforces rules because Ulfric forced their hand. Before the Markarth Incident, The Empire gave Skyrim alot of leeway, but that wasn't enough for Ulfric, and he ended up making the situation even worse.
@@niamhmorrissey2187 You writing things like you play Skyrim and skip all the dialogue options in it. /:
Yeetimus Prime The Nords are a prideful people, so can you really not understand their stubbornness? The Reachmen took over Markarth and the Empire wasn’t really solving the problem. Logically anyone would be upset if you set up a deal for someone for liberating a city which the Empire was unable to do then make you a scapegoat for the Thalmor who somehow conveniently found out about and used as an excuse to flex over the entire province. Honestly the real one to blame is the one who made Ulfric that deal. I mean I won’t say Ulfric wasn’t being stubborn and I won’t say his actions don’t have consequences, but at the same time it was an isolated event. That doesn’t mean they have the right to just accuse whoever they want of Talos worship. You can’t take the actions of one man to vilify the entire province. The Empire just folding and letting the Thalmor do what they want is exactly why he has support for the Civil War. Because the Empire who protected everyone’s independence just stop protecting its people. Yeah, they lost and they agreed to an agreement but that doesn’t mean you just let people act with impunity when in comes to slaughtering people whenever they want. The fault isn’t solely on Ulfric but on the people who made him that deal, but Ulfric being screwed by the Empire and by the people in Markarth led Skyrim to it’s current division.
One thing that bothered me is how the silverhand just walked in and burned the place yet no guard were like, idk maybe we should stop it?
Yeah, it's not like Whiterun is an easy place for a whole gang of bandits to sneak into. A single Alik'r was unable to sneak in. How did enough bandits to fend off warriors who clear bandit camps single handedly manage to get into the city?
@@LibraritheWizardOfficial Alik'r have distinguish clothes while the silver hand looks like normal mercenarys/adventurers. And the guards were not able to stop the figth in time since the attack happen at nigth.
Do a why Ysolda is evil video
Also Athis exclaims surprise at being accepted, but immediately chastises your entry with “but it looks like they just letting anybody join up these days”
Kodlak Whitemane is the smartest of the companions because he doesn’t immediately treat you like shit.
Pass by Farkas, Aeila, and the new recruit that I forget the name of when they kill a giant? Aeila will go out of her way to scold you.
Ask honestly who the companions are to Eulound Grey-brain? He scolds you, calls you worthless, and says the companions won’t need you.
Vilkas after you whoop his ass in the training yard? “Here’s this shitty steel sword. It’s worth more than you, lol.” “Why is not skyforged steel? Broke bitch.”
I kind of want to see something on Isran or maybe Harkon. My idea for Isran is how he is an idiot for his unwillingness to bend. You, as the player, can become a vampire to enter the Soul Cairn. Instead of seeing how a vampire could have an advantage in vampire hunting (Who knows better on how to hunt a vampire than a vampire) he demands that you cure yourself before he will deal with you further. That alone, plus his unwillingness to trust Serana in the beginning, even though she brought a tool you need to stop the vampires and professed her desire to assist you, shows how blinded he is by his hatred of vampires. Harkon is blinded just as much, placing all his faith in a prophecy that, in the words of a Skyrim parody, "Blocking out the sun would kill all the plants, which would kill all the animals, which would kill all the humans, which would eventually kill all the vampires." Harkon sees only one way forward, and that is destruction.
The rot? I don't remember any mention whatsoever of Kodlak having some disease, which would be especially difficult given lycanthropy renders one invulnerable to any disease. How could he be immune, yet infected? I can't even find any reference to him being afflicted with such a disease, it seems more than his only affliction rendering him incapable of fighting is simply age. Or is the "rot" an allegory for what old age does to the body?
You say Kodlak is the only npc who cares about where his soul goes, except for the entire inner circle because you can cure then all from being a werewolf except Aela because she wants to be with hircine. The priest you kill with the mace of Molag Bal. I'm sure there's more but that took me 5 seconds to think about
oh apparently one of the earliest harbringers was an elf, Kodlak is one of the few nords in game that isnt a prick, always found it dumb how so many nords can scream racist shit at anybody not nord and get no shit for it but if anybody does the same to them then apparently thats when its bad... ( please let elderscrolls 6 be better written)
First? I guess
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Same
I just realized that the worst thing you could do to Ulfric and his cause is be a High Elf Dragonborn.
imagine calling the nords genocidal maniacs when they were slaughtered to
Ya cuz they Invaded the land that wasn't theres
Theirs
@@aaronaustin9814 it was relatively peaceful until the night of tears
@@notnice8 I would't say it was completly peaceful. Tensions araise when you mix different cultures in one spot. Don't like pesky humans filtring with females elfs, and humans probably don't like ugly elven food ect ect. Several instances migth had happen to reach to the nigth of tears. It also happens in todays real world. Search "Roof Koreans" and you see a battle that happens in LA between Black vs Asians. It was maddness.
Now I might not know all the details but didn't the elves in skyrim slaughter an entire city of Atmorans? You were saying that they were "homicidal maniacs" but how is it bad that they killed the elves after what they did? I mean that might as well have been a declaration of war against the Atmorans.
I did the whole companion quest line and did not know he had the rot, I just thought the reason he thought he was gonna die soon was that he was old.
Kodlak could just drink a cure potion or pray at the altar of Talos and be cured from all diseases!
Security in Whiterun is really terrible. That sort of a thing ( Silver Hnd attack ) wouldnt happen in any big holds.
Shameful, is what it is.
Security is generally terrible anywhere. Just like today, having police officers patrolling dosen't mean a serial killer can enter a house and kill someone.
@@eldarhighelfhealermiriella7653 Remember city was closed for dragon business , then opened and guards dismissed redguards there. Silver Hand has many characters whos not a Nord. Theyre basically foreign to the land and somehow they walked in Whiterun and attacked Jorvaskr , steal piece of Wuuthrad and killed the Harbinger? They probably came there with many numbers and i havent seen any dead guard body around. If they cant guard, resigning is a service too.
You didn't even look into the lore of the Companions did you? You do know that the Companions have let in none Nords for centuries before Kodlak's time. Read the book the Great Harbingers it even lists a High Elven Harbinger which I honestly think is a betrayal to the Legacy of the 500. Let's be real here, the Falmer attempted Genocide first, they failed, the Atmorans came back and wiped the absolute floor with them.
Here is a hot take, the only reason why people hate the Nords for these actions and their desire to have their own homeland ruled by them and for them is because they are white humans that look like Germanic/Nordic peoples.
Finally, an intelligent character in Skyrim.
Would it be fair to say that Skior was similar in a way, yet also the foil to Kodlack? The both were clearly a cut above the rest of the companions in most facets, yet while Kodlak was on essense a true Nord, devoted to Talos and tradition, Skior was his opposite. It's clear the companions would have taken a different path had Skior lived.
Fun fact :vuKodlak means Werewolf in Serbian
Evil preaches tolerance; until it is dominant - then it outlaws being good...
Yeah! Bit like that religion of peace.
Could we get why Mirabelle is a genius?
Or Tolfdir?
Maybe Serana?
Or Karliah
Luv her
Serana is no where near genis we carry her the whole questline she likable and has emotion but not a strong intelligence maybe, Why we all love serana video
I have an idea:a character I rarely talk to in Skyrim- Whiterun's Jarl advisor,the father of the blacksmith in the town.
He's a massive pansy. His advice is useless. I could easily see how his daughter advises him; it's just not that much of an achievement
The music while his funeral really got me...
be wary of old men in a profession where men die young
Jez, apparently anyone can be a genius now a days
I was hapy to seem him congratulate me after I defeated Anduin.
Am i the only one that secretly kept the werewolf powers?
But does he get to the cloud District very often?
What mod makes you character take up that stance in battle
Kodlak reminds me of Vesemir for some reason.
I one of my saves look just like him once haha
I don't really get why do you call Kodlak a genius. Yeah, he is a wise guy and thinks in a pretty rational way but none of this makes him a genius. I remember a slave-on-the-run khajit from Morrowind who was working as a guide for a hunter that tried to find him. He used that job for cover and to mislead hunter. So even that khajit was closer to being genius then Kodlak.
A video about Lucien Lachance please. Love your videos btw!
Wait, he dies?!? Spoiler Warning!