Worked violent MH wards for 25 years with my sensei, a 6th Dan. He taught that awareness and observation are your best defence, no matter where u are. Even now, retired, when I go out... say to a restaurant... or a footy match... I sit where I can see everyone.
I thought NAMI really messed up with their billboards claiming that mentally ill people won't hurt you.....it's mostly true, but when it's not true it can be crippling or fatal. That being said, it is generally true that folks with mental illness have much more fear and reason to fear "normal" folks, (or police), than "society" has to fear from mentally ill folks...even those with severe challenges. I work in the field and I think destigmatizing mental illness requires that public service messages be truthful. I need more training in softer custodial moves since I've been switched to working with more violence-prone mentally ill guys in crisis/respite. Fortunately their kicks have not been highly trained so far!
Awesome video straight to the point and perfect display of the move. But let's wait for the aikido doesn't work experts who probably are busy eating junk food while watching ufc thinking they can fight anyone 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Having worked in law enforcement for 25 years, many of which were assigned to a criminally violent mentally ill offenders unit, I can assure you that you should be just as cautious of untreated serious mentally ill people as you are with people on drugs. They have altered mental states, the same as drug users They are unpredictable. I had one "patient", who was so happy to see me one second and punched me in the face the next moment, without warning. They feel pain differently, if they feel it at all. Often they don't. They also can exhibit unusual strength. Many of them self medicate with illegal drugs to try and change and "fix" their altered mental state so they feel better. People with mental illness often cannot help the way they are. Treat them humanely, but like dealing with electricity, be ready and be careful. Be safe...
Aikido techniques are great for that profession where you need to protect your self without damaging the attacker more than necessary to escape danger.
Somebody kicks at me? I'll attack the support leg (or use destruction techniques). But, it depends on the kick. And how it's thrown. But, rarely in a street fight. Nobody will not kick you outright. They'll kick you on the ground. Those are the kicks you need to avoid if you have no ground defense or technical mobility.
Yes,they stomp the victim on the ground. I have seen it over & over again on videos of riotors in these past few months. Usually a lone victim being stomped by a mob after being hit from behind by one of them
I have mental health issues and It scares me thinking it's possible for someone like me to just do this to people who have never wronged me or met me before.. I think what I'm scared of most is taking someone's life by mistake or even worse yet on purpose if I have to protect someone.
Hehe, you should try your antics against an kickboxer och thaiboxer who trained in 2 years or more, is impossible to catch his leg, becouse the kick is very fast and not only one kick, it will be a combination, jab + hook + sidekick,
He is making in these vdeo a few wrong assumptions. 1. He wants only to defend punches, untill the attacker gets bored with having his punches parried and kicks him. Probably, instead, he will eat third or fourth punch, you can't only block, sorry. It doesn't work like that. You have to take initiative, you have to attack yourself. 2. He wrongly teaches waiting for the kick like it would be a logical conclusion of having punches made ineffective, while the attacker may do many more other things like grabbing him, pushing into something etc. And probably his defense will not work that long and his attacker will start landing punches, rather sooner than later. 3. Like you mentioned, he wouldn't be able to execute this antic against a strong kick by a heavier guy. He just does it wrongly. 4. Quite probably, assuming that everything would go according to his hopes, a falling guy would out of fear catch him to keep balance and they both would end on the ground.
Catching the leg is a very common move in Muay Thai. It's usually easier to do on your lead side (assuming both fighters have the same stance) but what he does iq perfectly feasible too.
@@thrownswordpommel7393 as long as there is no power or mass behind the kick, yes, it is ok. Edit: i mean in a way shown in the video above. If you do it against a smaller opponent who is kicking lightly you may just catch the leg like this guy here, otherwise you may either move a little back with the kick, to take its energy away, or (it's much harder to execute) step into the kick before it reaches maximum power. Both ways may not be sufficient against much heavier opponent.
@@vyderka You have a good point. I'd like to add that moving with the attack and absorbing the opponent's energy is *exactly* the aikido way, so it's strange they didn't really emphasize on that in the video.
@@TimLake I'm sure over the course of time the event he described likely has happened Thank you for linking, gees pretty horrific stuff 😰 I used to work downtown and every now and then there'd be somebody unfortunately clearly in some form of crisis screaming at people or postureing these things happen the video just seemed a little worst case scenario
Thanks for the vid. I'd like to see a vid on your thoughts on defending against someone attacking your legs with a kick, to the thigh, the knee or lower leg. I've recently seen a few vids where ppl challenged mma fighters to kick their leg to feel the effects. A low or high kick to the leg seems to be a hard one to defend against other than just backing out of range.
Search up how to check a kick. Essentially you just lift the leg that they're kicking up so that the kick hits your upper shin. You also want to lean into it slightly so you don't just get pushed over.
@@cooly2165 Yeah I'm aware of this technique but I essentially it requires the lower leg conditioning as in what Muay Thai boxers undergo. I'm looking for counters to lower leg attacks that wouldn't necessarily require that conditioning which essentially would take years to achieve.
@@Jazzman-bj9fq Another defense would be just pulling your lead leg back without moving your head so you could step right back in with a counter. But honestly, you don't need years of conditioning to check kicks. If someone's leg does break it's gonna be the kicker's since they're kicking with the lower part of the shin, which is weaker. Checking kicks hurts like hell if they're kicking hard, but you're not gonna get injured.
I really appreciate not only the techniques shown, but the overall presentation. That said...Why wouldn't you fully disable this attacker instead of simply flipping him to the ground where he can roll out of that flip and come back at you? If you've captured his leg isn't there a better *disabling technique* we can use at that point...one that would end the fight?
I don't "dodge" spinning back kicks. At our dojo, we have trained to automatically move in as they start to turn and do a takedown (or other attack) from behind. I love it when they turn their back to me. It is the most advantageous position I could hope for. And for them to be in the air and unable to change their positioning or direction of travel... Even better for my attack!!! It is such a vulnerable position that tae kwon do, tang soo do and many other styles have made attacking the backside of the opponent illegal in tournaments, thus often giving people doing spinning back kicks a false sense of security since they never get attacked from behind when doing them.
That is true... And to face kick a 7ft. tall person, most people would have to jump. But I personally would not want to be in the air that long with no way to change direction nor be able to adapt for an opponent who evaded my technique.
This boy is his lover :-) _Thats why they are both so gently, hehe. And another thing that bother me, 95% of you tube martial arts "masters" use oponents i their video that are much weaker then themselvs, so even without martial arts they would beat them.
it can work, deflection of the punches is standard move. but if the guy is a good kicker, he will take your head off. this catch is not a move to teach beginners. also the guy punching and kicking has no technique whatsoever. hes telegraphing every strike with his shoulders and doing the chickenwing with his elbows. im also interested on how much damage a kick to the arm could inflict, maybe for the next video..
It's been a long time since I've seen such a Mcdojo. Please note that this technique only works against someone untrained. It's also extremely important to consider the high probability to be thrown to the ground with your opponent. Please stop teaching techniques that could hurt the one who practice them. In the depicted situation, the easiest thing to do would be to push your opponent's shoulder (either right or left).
@@mickymorton7148 you know, it interests me, so I will look towards a way to make a martial art video while respecting the COVID restrictions in France. If I get the autorisation I will apply this technique against two opponents: one untrained, and the other trained.
@@sebastienroux6740 Come on Bro of course these only work with people who are untrained, that's why any type of martial arts techniques are for self defense only not to make you think that You're Mr.badass... As to the technique the instructor was demonstrating was clearly stated the technique can be used in case some one is trying to kick you or is in fact kicking you, it amazes me how people on UA-cam always have this thought in the back of their mind that somehow every single person that is walking on this earth is somehow a MMA fighter....
@@Reyesarmando77 what I meant was that these kind of techniques are designed to fight against Mr. Nobody. And that if you were attacked by any thug who has a little fight experience, it would be much different.
seems to me like you need to be a master to time the blocking of the kick just right? otherwise you will get the air kicked out. i mean.. how is the energy from the kick ever deflected?
If you do it against a smaller opponent who is kicking lightly you may just catch the leg like this guy here, otherwise you may either move a little back with the kick, to take its energy away, or (it's much harder to execute) step into the kick before it reaches maximum power. Both ways may not be sufficient against much heavier opponent. Join muay thai gym, you'll learn all you need to know about that stuff.
@@Aikidoflow I think the only way to "save" it would be to bring it back to its roots in traditional Ju-Jutsu, and make it into a more encompassing style, with punches, kicks, throws, locks, chokes, groundwork and weapon-based techniques.
@@thrownswordpommel7393 You fundamentally misunderstand the difference between budo and bujutsu then. If you want a fighting style then train in one. Don't train in aikido and claim it's broken because it isn't a fighting style. It's not supposed to be. Go train daito ryu or some other martial art.
@@iatsd I know the difference between budo and bujustsu, thanks. I think this dichotomy is not relevant to the matter at hand, because there are many -do martial arts which are effective in real fights, and many -justu ones that are not (probably because they often have a severe case of "my techniques are too deadly to spar" syndrome). Moreover, aikido is often marketed as an effective combat style. Very few people in Akido will actually say "it's a budo, it's not effective and it's not meant to, if you want to learn how to defend yourself go somewhere else".
Aikidoflow guys and gals.. fearmongering is an effective sales instrument, but is it moral? If you want to make people buy your course, you may think about some other approach. Try showing some legitimate applications of your skills, build relations with your viewers based on your credibility, not viewers fears. It's harder, less profitable, takes longer time, but you are going to sleep soundly at night.
Worked violent MH wards for 25 years with my sensei, a 6th Dan. He taught that awareness and observation are your best defence, no matter where u are. Even now, retired, when I go out... say to a restaurant... or a footy match... I sit where I can see everyone.
Quote “mental illness is not something to fear but combining mental illness with cocaine is” 🤣😂😂🤣
I thought NAMI really messed up with their billboards claiming that mentally ill people won't hurt you.....it's mostly true, but when it's not true it can be crippling or fatal.
That being said, it is generally true that folks with mental illness have much more fear and reason to fear "normal" folks, (or police), than "society" has to fear from mentally ill folks...even those with severe challenges.
I work in the field and I think destigmatizing mental illness requires that public service messages be truthful.
I need more training in softer custodial moves since I've been switched to working with more violence-prone mentally ill guys in crisis/respite.
Fortunately their kicks have not been highly trained so far!
Awesome video straight to the point and perfect display of the move. But let's wait for the aikido doesn't work experts who probably are busy eating junk food while watching ufc thinking they can fight anyone 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Kid behind me on the plane won't stand a chance
Lol, thanks
Aha
Haha
Having worked in law enforcement for 25 years, many of which were assigned to a criminally violent mentally ill offenders unit, I can assure you that you should be just as cautious of untreated serious mentally ill people as you are with people on drugs. They have altered mental states, the same as drug users They are unpredictable. I had one "patient", who was so happy to see me one second and punched me in the face the next moment, without warning. They feel pain differently, if they feel it at all. Often they don't. They also can exhibit unusual strength. Many of them self medicate with illegal drugs to try and change and "fix" their altered mental state so they feel better. People with mental illness often cannot help the way they are. Treat them humanely, but like dealing with electricity, be ready and be careful. Be safe...
I work in that field and appreciate your messaging.
This is a great channel. AND you're doing it with style. Keep up the good work.
These moves help me when I hold a mental patient in custody. Many attack me.
Aikido techniques are great for that profession where you need to protect your self without damaging the attacker more than necessary to escape danger.
Do you inspire them to attack you? Sounds like a partial story.
@@SansAziza The voices tell them to attack. Lol.
SansAziza they are in mental crisis. You can have a calm person. Who all of the sudden goes nuts.
Omni God hey. Some have said to me. The voices are telling me to kill you. I hear it often.
Very important lesson. Thanks.
Somebody kicks at me? I'll attack the support leg (or use destruction techniques). But, it depends on the kick. And how it's thrown. But, rarely in a street fight. Nobody will not kick you outright. They'll kick you on the ground. Those are the kicks you need to avoid if you have no ground defense or technical mobility.
Yes,they stomp the victim on the ground. I have seen it over & over again on videos of riotors in these past few months. Usually a lone victim being stomped by a mob after being hit from behind by one of them
Absolutely loved this technique
I have mental health issues and It scares me thinking it's possible for someone like me to just do this to people who have never wronged me or met me before.. I think what I'm scared of most is taking someone's life by mistake or even worse yet on purpose if I have to protect someone.
WHAT IS THE SONG? haha I love it and I love your channel. I've been watching you guys for years! Cheers..
Control and restraint...Be good people.
Superb presentation! All true!!! Well Done.
Bravo mate.. Splended display as always.💯💯💯
Thanks, great channel.
Love it...great advice.
thank u, ppl keep kicking me in school, this was a huge help!
This is the second video from this channel that I watch. I literally can't pinpoint if this is satire or not.
what would be the technique to defend your self against front kicks aimed at your center?
Come back ondrej. It isn't the same since you jumped ship!
You literally have flow!!!
Hehe, you should try your antics against an kickboxer och thaiboxer who trained in 2 years or more, is impossible to catch his leg, becouse the kick is very fast and not only one kick, it will be a combination, jab + hook + sidekick,
Alfons Grizzly Exactly, would love to see him actually demonstrate his move then, he’s gonna get knocked out.
He is making in these vdeo a few wrong assumptions.
1. He wants only to defend punches, untill the attacker gets bored with having his punches parried and kicks him. Probably, instead, he will eat third or fourth punch, you can't only block, sorry. It doesn't work like that. You have to take initiative, you have to attack yourself.
2. He wrongly teaches waiting for the kick like it would be a logical conclusion of having punches made ineffective, while the attacker may do many more other things like grabbing him, pushing into something etc. And probably his defense will not work that long and his attacker will start landing punches, rather sooner than later.
3. Like you mentioned, he wouldn't be able to execute this antic against a strong kick by a heavier guy. He just does it wrongly.
4. Quite probably, assuming that everything would go according to his hopes, a falling guy would out of fear catch him to keep balance and they both would end on the ground.
Catching the leg is a very common move in Muay Thai. It's usually easier to do on your lead side (assuming both fighters have the same stance) but what he does iq perfectly feasible too.
@@thrownswordpommel7393 as long as there is no power or mass behind the kick, yes, it is ok. Edit: i mean in a way shown in the video above. If you do it against a smaller opponent who is kicking lightly you may just catch the leg like this guy here, otherwise you may either move a little back with the kick, to take its energy away, or (it's much harder to execute) step into the kick before it reaches maximum power. Both ways may not be sufficient against much heavier opponent.
@@vyderka You have a good point. I'd like to add that moving with the attack and absorbing the opponent's energy is *exactly* the aikido way, so it's strange they didn't really emphasize on that in the video.
Excellent. Paz...👌
Just love this vlog
can any one link the articular from 1:17
@@TimLake I'm sure over the course of time the event he described likely has happened
Thank you for linking, gees pretty horrific stuff 😰 I used to work downtown and every now and then there'd be somebody unfortunately clearly in some form of crisis screaming at people or postureing these things happen the video just seemed a little worst case scenario
Thanks for the vid. I'd like to see a vid on your thoughts on defending against someone attacking your legs with a kick, to the thigh, the knee or lower leg. I've recently seen a few vids where ppl challenged mma fighters to kick their leg to feel the effects. A low or high kick to the leg seems to be a hard one to defend against other than just backing out of range.
Nice idea, I will put that on my list of videos 👍🏽
@@Aikidoflow Thank you, Sir!
Search up how to check a kick. Essentially you just lift the leg that they're kicking up so that the kick hits your upper shin. You also want to lean into it slightly so you don't just get pushed over.
@@cooly2165 Yeah I'm aware of this technique but I essentially it requires the lower leg conditioning as in what Muay Thai boxers undergo. I'm looking for counters to lower leg attacks that wouldn't necessarily require that conditioning which essentially would take years to achieve.
@@Jazzman-bj9fq Another defense would be just pulling your lead leg back without moving your head so you could step right back in with a counter. But honestly, you don't need years of conditioning to check kicks. If someone's leg does break it's gonna be the kicker's since they're kicking with the lower part of the shin, which is weaker. Checking kicks hurts like hell if they're kicking hard, but you're not gonna get injured.
Yesssss! That's how Masters do it!!!
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I really appreciate not only the techniques shown, but the overall presentation.
That said...Why wouldn't you fully disable this attacker instead of simply flipping him to the ground where he can roll out of that flip and come back at you?
If you've captured his leg isn't there a better *disabling technique* we can use at that point...one that would end the fight?
In many legal systems you are required to use the minimum force necessary to protect yourself. Hard to judge at the time, but that's the constraint.
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Go and take a look, the links are in the description, it covers everything we know
I'd love to see you spar with someone who practices muay thai or that at least knows how to throw kicks. That catch will get your arm broken
If you not punch back, nothing Else Works, the enemy needs to feel pain before others techniques.
Yeah but there was hardly anything about kicks. Just a drug/mental health story.
They Never talk about Kicks I been trained in combination and i came from Tang soo do i know how to use both legs
Would you please get somebody who knows to punch, kick or grapple and show me that this is reliable.
Looks like The Legendary Bruce Lee Move in
"Enter the Dragon"
My Fravorite Bruce Lee
Movie !"
lo...you are right
Tossing that chav to the floor like he's litter! Where's the love broheem
Yea but a real jumping back spinning kick is like battering ram you can't dodge.
I had friend who mastered those spinning techniques.
I don't "dodge" spinning back kicks. At our dojo, we have trained to automatically move in as they start to turn and do a takedown (or other attack) from behind. I love it when they turn their back to me. It is the most advantageous position I could hope for. And for them to be in the air and unable to change their positioning or direction of travel... Even better for my attack!!! It is such a vulnerable position that tae kwon do, tang soo do and many other styles have made attacking the backside of the opponent illegal in tournaments, thus often giving people doing spinning back kicks a false sense of security since they never get attacked from behind when doing them.
You aboustly never took a spinning back kick from my friend Tim and he took down marine black belt 7 ft tall . 😆
That is true... And to face kick a 7ft. tall person, most people would have to jump. But I personally would not want to be in the air that long with no way to change direction nor be able to adapt for an opponent who evaded my technique.
I am talking about speed is a factor .
That's a good one. I'm going to try it on my wife.
Well good vid
Thank you
bro why he look like john kreese from cobra kai/karate kid
Will it work with real punchs and kicks ?
Cuz obvioulsy, your young partner is very compliant...
This boy is his lover :-) _Thats why they are both so gently, hehe. And another thing that bother me, 95% of you tube martial arts "masters" use oponents i their video that are much weaker then themselvs, so even without martial arts they would beat them.
I can confirm they are lovers
it can work, deflection of the punches is standard move. but if the guy is a good kicker, he will take your head off. this catch is not a move to teach beginners.
also the guy punching and kicking has no technique whatsoever. hes telegraphing every strike with his shoulders and doing the chickenwing with his elbows. im also interested on how much damage a kick to the arm could inflict, maybe for the next video..
Dont know if i would do that with a high kick...but maybe im showing my age.
It's been a long time since I've seen such a Mcdojo.
Please note that this technique only works against someone untrained.
It's also extremely important to consider the high probability to be thrown to the ground with your opponent.
Please stop teaching techniques that could hurt the one who practice them.
In the depicted situation, the easiest thing to do would be to push your opponent's shoulder (either right or left).
so why don't you show us all how it's really done hey Sebastien upload a video with your name let's get it on mush ✔👍 ?
@@mickymorton7148 you know, it interests me, so I will look towards a way to make a martial art video while respecting the COVID restrictions in France.
If I get the autorisation I will apply this technique against two opponents: one untrained, and the other trained.
@@sebastienroux6740 Come on Bro of course these only work with people who are untrained, that's why any type of martial arts techniques are for self defense only not to make you think that You're Mr.badass...
As to the technique the instructor was demonstrating was clearly stated the technique can be used in case some one is trying to kick you or is in fact kicking you, it amazes me how people on UA-cam always have this thought in the back of their mind that somehow every single person that is walking on this earth is somehow a MMA fighter....
@@Reyesarmando77 what I meant was that these kind of techniques are designed to fight against Mr. Nobody.
And that if you were attacked by any thug who has a little fight experience, it would be much different.
For example, many thugs have the logic : if I fall, you fall with me.
This kind of logic just overwhelms what's taught in this video.
Show the leg/feet movement. No point otherwise
nice
seems to me like you need to be a master to time the blocking of the kick just right? otherwise you will get the air kicked out. i mean.. how is the energy from the kick ever deflected?
Training is the key, sparring with someone will give you the insight you need
If you do it against a smaller opponent who is kicking lightly you may just catch the leg like this guy here, otherwise you may either move a little back with the kick, to take its energy away, or (it's much harder to execute) step into the kick before it reaches maximum power. Both ways may not be sufficient against much heavier opponent. Join muay thai gym, you'll learn all you need to know about that stuff.
Obligatory "this is not Aikido, it's Muay Thai" comment.
That’s a good point? I think the problem is we need to rethink what aikido is and can be
@@Aikidoflow I think the only way to "save" it would be to bring it back to its roots in traditional Ju-Jutsu, and make it into a more encompassing style, with punches, kicks, throws, locks, chokes, groundwork and weapon-based techniques.
@@thrownswordpommel7393 You fundamentally misunderstand the difference between budo and bujutsu then. If you want a fighting style then train in one. Don't train in aikido and claim it's broken because it isn't a fighting style. It's not supposed to be. Go train daito ryu or some other martial art.
@@iatsd I know the difference between budo and bujustsu, thanks. I think this dichotomy is not relevant to the matter at hand, because there are many -do martial arts which are effective in real fights, and many -justu ones that are not (probably because they often have a severe case of "my techniques are too deadly to spar" syndrome).
Moreover, aikido is often marketed as an effective combat style. Very few people in Akido will actually say "it's a budo, it's not effective and it's not meant to, if you want to learn how to defend yourself go somewhere else".
All that talking just to show a block & a throw? Smh
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Aikidoflow guys and gals.. fearmongering is an effective sales instrument, but is it moral? If you want to make people buy your course, you may think about some other approach. Try showing some legitimate applications of your skills, build relations with your viewers based on your credibility, not viewers fears. It's harder, less profitable, takes longer time, but you are going to sleep soundly at night.
You are right. Shameless fear mongering. I use to respect this channel I'm done and unsubscribing
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Great video as always Jason. Having no choice is really scary and I should know because Trump is my President.
If he loses, you ain't seen nothin' yet.
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