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Is it Worth It To Buy A Modern Horizons 3 Commander Deck? | A Magic: The Gathering Product Review
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Prof, I hope you see this. You matter inside of the MTG world and outside of it as well. The sincerity in your tone is a rare gem in the UA-cam space, and we can hear your love for the game simultaneously conflicting with your disdain for malpractices. Please don’t ever quit Magic. We need you, and I’m very, very serious. All our love.
I was just existing today and thought, “Huh, if I’m still deciding on which precon to get, maybe prof’s video on the precon overview will help. And what do you know, he came out with one an hour ago. Handy dandy Prof, keep doing your amazing work so aren’t lost❤.
and yet other games find a way to be worse "500$" ahri skin
I have the collectors sets coming to me, as i bought them for my people. I can send them to you to open and review if you promise to send them back 👉🏽👈🏽
Please people.....the presale prices will go down once your LGS has them regulary in stock. Please dont buy a 140 dollar precon because of FOMO.......
honestly it's what I thought last year when CMM precons were released and didn't buy any, thinking they would go down, almost one year later it still hasn't and on the contrary they only went up ; so this time I didn't make the mistake, ordered the 4 as a bundle, even considering getting more Tricky Terrains ones as they have so many staples
Eldrazi dont go down, you can see a example from dinosaur ixalan precon.
Your LGS isn't going to buy more Eldrazi decks because they're only allowed to buy the decks in sets of 4 and they'd never be able to sell any more copies of the energy and graveyard decks when they already have 8-10 copies that aren't moving.
in this case “fomo” is not a good example, once the eldrazi is sold out you will not be able to get your hands on it & if you do it will run you over 200 easy. research first brother.
Target has them for ~$70. Same with best buy
I adore that some of the music in the background is the same music you'd hear playing while watching a job safety video in a temp agency that was filmed in the early 90s.
prof was the one making those videos :)
I associate the theme music with Toleria
Yeah or like an educational video you’d see in elementary school. I think that’s the vibe he’s going for.
I just started playing seriously about a year ago and I am already so exhausted by these prices. I think I have bought a total of 2 or 3 packs and have exclusively bought singles, largely because I found your videos first! Thank you for being honest and sticking to your guns no matter what
Don't be afraid to draft! I've had plenty of fun playing a full day for $25 commander drafts for the sets since I started 2 years ago. You might need to establish draft rules like we did if you are an EDH player like me who isn't as interested in standard (I still went to a couple prerelease events though)
Good job resisting the urge to gamble my guy
Just started a few months ago.
Bought 2 bundles and a commander pre con.
I feel like that's all I really need.
Still buy packs here and there just for the fun of opening packs but I do that not really expecting much 😅
Started playing a few months ago. Bought Velociramptor because I found it for $45 bucks on sale, bought the $40 Quick Draw, $50 Riders of Rohan and $20 modern LOTR dual decks. Otherwise than that just singles to build any other decks. Spending a ton of pre cons doesn’t seem to be the way to go
I've been playing since 1994 feel my pain. The struggle is real and the price gouging is out landish
I really dig the way the Prof considers price as part of the rating, as well as displaying his frustrations with how Wizards is throwing their hands up.
Great review, great service to the community.
To be fair though, he himself contributes to their giving up by spreading the secondary market price information in easily digestible form. Any pre-con or other product that comes recommended as having good value is snatched off the shelves before it can even get there, and every weak product gets bad ratings and basically becomes unsellable. I'm not a fan of generally losing the MSRP, but with the precons, I get it. WotC probalby thought, if there's no way to win this game, why bother to play?
Make em swallow their fingers to throw up their hands! 👐
The decks were originally intended for a 69,99$ price tag, as that is what they were sold under for the first few minutes after they became available on amazon.
Yup, Amazon had them at preorder for $70 each (still insane), then the leaks happened and shifted the prices all over. The simic deck is the only one to have maintained the WotC MSRP. 😂😂
@@kozad86 That actually went absolutely through the roof here in Germany after Graveyard Overdrive was previewed and concluded the spoilers. Sank down to 37€ at one point, then after it became clear that it would contain the best cards, if climbed up to 89€ on cardmarket.
@@KingLofiOneYeah, I managed to snag Graveyard Overdrive for $55 yesterday. Can't wait until launch.
Yes I got my eldrazi deck for about 70 bucks
I preordered Eldrazi Incursions deck just 2 days ago from Target for $72.99
My favorite thing is how they JUST made a deal about how in thunder junction we’d get cool commander art, and then for this set, you have to pay double the price for the cool commander art
I wonder if they went back on it or they're just doing that for the "standard" precons for expansion sets.
@@AndrewS-vu4ji truth be told, the MH3 precons were probably in development before the OTJ ones. I guess we'll see with bloomburrow.
They’re probably developed at different times.
I also find it super annoying that the deckbox art isn't in any of the versions. They do this with booster pack art all the time too :(
It's like you're trying to destroy the secondary card market!! How will Hasbro Exec#6924 buy his second yacht??
The really fun kick in the teeth is if you get the collectors edition of the eldrazi deck, though advertised as having extended border cards, none of the new eldrazi will be extended border. (The other will have the extension.)
Because why would you buy collector boosters then? Such a scam.
@@Deebofreebo Yup, and throw a bunch of new powerful Eldrza chase cards in MH3 to suck the money out of people who want to power up their new precon. It's pathetic really.
@@Deebofreeboyeah but then you’d have people buying them up just for that, so idk what a winning answer even is anymore…
Proxy boutta go crazy for upgrading 😎
Y’know, when the Eldrazi deck was announced, I just kinda grabbed it immediately without a thought. I am *incredibly* glad I did so early, god the price really has skyrocketed.
Ye same. I was able to get it reserved at my local card store
i was about to order it but it was gone immediately, dammit!
how much was it then and how much is it now?
@@xChikyx I paid ~$70 and it’s currently doubled that in price.
@@lucyarisato6850 oofff still pretty expensive
I smiled so big when you busted out the Premium Deck Series... Graveborn and Slivers were epic
I've very recently gotten back into MTG. And, you are one of the first channels I got into. With all due respect, this video helped me NOT worry anymore that you are a shill for the company. Your honesty is very admirable, and thank you for that.
The themes for these commander decks are all really cool! But the actual cards in the deck made them all let downs. Not putting Goyf in the Goyf deck is silly
Oh, hello there, TrinketMage! Do have the same feelings about the lineup (and I also have a closet packed with reserves, so prob not bothering with MH3)
I really like the tricky terrain list. It has a lot of cool reprints and a theme that isnt often seen
I mean regular tarmogoyf sucks in commander, that's why the deck makes tokens of them. A vanilla 4/5 for 2 is not really a multiplayer card
@@BigPogger these are precons with silly themes. I think saying goyf is not powerful is not a good reason to not put that in the deck
@@IvanKolyada not sure what you mean exactly. But I won’t be buying any of these
Genuinely surprised to see Graveyard Overdrive fare so badly, since my friend has been watching a bunch of gameplay videos of the decks to inform his decision and he's positively livid about how broken the goyfs seem to be. I suppose the best way to know for sure is to pick it up for myself, but only after it drops to 25 bucks or so.
I agree with your friend. I've watched a bunch of game play with the 4 precons and it seems to perform the best out of the box or upgraded. Both the simic deck and the energy deck have seemed to do little to nothing during game play that I've watched.
@johnsnow3938 My friend played the simic deck after we got back from the store, and since we don't run land destruction in our pod, we expected him to sweep the game quickly. Instead he sat around with 20-30 mana, a full hand, and a handful of creatures until he finally played a nonbasic land tutor to get darkest depths, get the 20/20, got it removed after one knockout, and sat around until he played a Mill 2 X (X=43) to knock the last player out.
@@synckar6380 that sounds about right. The deck can produce a ton of mana but has nothing to put it into. Would like to see it built with more X spells
@@johnsnow3938 I think adding things like Maze's End and Aven Courier would've helped the simic deck quite a bit without making it broken. With ways to tutor up Maze's end it actually becomes quite strong, and getting those 10 gates is pretty achievable, especially if you do have Aven Courier effectively acting as a second commander. Also adding more gates, especially Baldur's seems like an obvious decision. But yeah, on its own the Simic deck is lacking a clear win con imo
Hi! Can I ask you the source of your profile pic?
The main issue here is how wizards sells the decks. They are only available through a pack of 4 (one of each). Which means for 1 eldrazi deck, they have to buy 4. Which in turn they have to sell to people, but if people doesn't buy, they have to reflect on it and price the decks accordingly (meaning lowering the price of decks like goyfs and energy while upping the other two to make a profit). This is what will kill commander decks. Because stores cannot operate with unsold products on their hands and having to rely too much on 1 expensive deck to compensate for 3 others
Although I don’t agree this will kill the commander decks (this has been a problem for about as long as pre-cons have existed) I do agree this is the big underlying issue. Because they have to be purchased in sets of 4, if retailers don’t want to end up selling the unpopular decks at a loss, they need to increase the price of the popular ones to subsidize the ones that aren’t sold. If Wizards would just sell the decks individually to distributers, then you wouldn’t be seeing such crazy prices since you’d see supply being able to keep up with demand.
@@goblinscrewdriver8544 But you know, AGAGAGAGAGAG
Several companies use the weird and outdated distributor model. It seems to work fine for things like soda and crackers since the retailer still has a lot of sway on pricing, but it's not really working for Magic today.
The problem is that in the past there were 2-3 good decks with one dud. The past few releases there is only 1 standout and 3 duds. There is no way to even break even since 2-3 sell at a loss and 1 deck, even at a huge premium, this MH3 set of 4 decks would lose $10-30 IF you can sell them all. The Eldrazi deck is already down to $110 which means a loss of $30-50 for the set for most retailers. Fun.
Congratulations on finally hitting 1 million subs, Prof! Been following you for a very long time and I can’t tell you how happy I am for you to achieve this milestone. What you’ve done for the Magic community over the years can’t be summed up in enough words. Few content creators deserve this achievement as much as you for all the great work you’ve done. Onwards to 2 million now!
I feel so old, I remember when commander precons were once a year and only costed $39.95 before tax.
I remember the day I went with my stepdad to our LGS and he bought the Edgar Markov precon. Times were simpler for MTG.
I remember getting into mtg around tempest and onslaught release
I feel like if you use Coram as the commander of Graveyard Overdrive out of the box you will do better than you would with the face commander. You have several ways to mill cards, good cards in the graveyard to give Coram high power and even some power matters cards like Selvala. The land base sucks, no denying that, but I think the deck does a lot better with Coram than it does with Disa and could actually put in some work and be a deck you might win with out of the box
Agreed. I built with Coram and it should have been the face commander.
I’m pretty convinced Coram was originally designed to be the face commander but at some point late into development they decided to make Disa the face commander instead to tie more directly into the modern format and appeal to boomer jund player without updating the deck. Like it would make so much more sense that there are so few goyfs since it was only supposed tie into the backup commander but still play into Corams graveyard/power matters themes.
I feel also that people sometimes overlook that this isn't a graveyard matters deck, it's a graveyard SIZE matters deck. It's not about doing crazy graveyard shenanigans and doing tons of reviving, it's more typical Gruul, put out big things, put out big damage, stomp over the opponent - only with the added "fill up you graveyard asap" sidenote. In most gameplay videos on UA-cam so far, the deck actually wins or at least really holds up well, so it's by far not as bad as the professor says, even though it is a bit unfocused with a few weird additions.
Disa is very strong if you have a pyrogoyf on board specifically, as it will give you up to three big damage triggers every turn from the tarmo tokens entering.
I fondly remember the Premium Deck Series: Slivers deck. I remember being able to get it when I was just a kid and having tons of fun playing with what felt like a really strong set of cards. It's a shame that experience is out of reach for many of the "premium" Magic products for kids nowadays.
I grabbed a set of these at just under $200 after shipping and taxes, so they total out to around $50 each and I feel they're great value for that. I'm especially excited for the Jund deck to run the backup commander, Coram. "Vague graveyard" and "generic value" is synonymous with "Jund 'em out", to me, and Coram seems awesome for that!
Coram is awesome my thing with the Jund deck is by far the most expensive one to upgrade cause most of the cards you would want in a Jund Value Deck are not here
Same thing. Even in the “bad” deck there is at least $50 worth of cards to add to other decks
Wish I had. Just grabbed the basic eldrazi one, which is still good saying how the price has gone.
1M subs prof!!!
so proud to be part of the tolarian community college community!!!
you deserve this and so much more!!!
you're the heart and soul of the magic community and I think I can say in the name of all of us, that we're so happy to have someone as awesome as you to be the international voice for all of us all over the globe!!!!
best wishes from Germany 🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳
Same with regards to the PDS: Slivers. That's how I made mine. I loved that product line. Superb value. Miss duel decks too. It's wild how much has changed.
I 100% agree with how bad the prices on are these new products. Honestly the money hole is the biggest reason I'm not more into magic in generally and it sucks that I don't see it getting any better but I'm glad that you're not just blinded by your love of magic and actual call out wotc for their poor treatment of their very loyal customers.
Pssst buy proxies and play with people who are nice and won’t be dicks about it 😊
Just buy singles, at least thats what i was told by some wise old man :)
Where'd you find a wise one? The one I see is just old!
provided you have a healthy bank account
Lmfao no not at all for modern. Your dpending 10x the price if you try singles in a Preimum set.
Not for Modern bud
Commander decks are way more expensive to buy card by card compared to buying the whole precon deck
Also wanna point out that Prof gives graveyard overdrive a hard time, but in many of the commander youtube channels that played the precon, overdrive in particular exceled and came out on top
I agree, it's even my favorite out of the 4
yup
I’ve seen a fair of share of no board state from this deck as well. Definitely the least consistent
Graveyard overdrive is the most resiliant deck of the four. I dont know what prof smoked, but the deck is awesome.
From what I've seen so far, Graveyard Overdrive is at least the 2nd strongest deck in the set, if not tops. I guess it didn't do well when he and his group(s) playtested it? From what I've seen of it so far, it looks pretty good to me.
Prof, thank you so much for your consistent advocacy for Magic players and not being afraid to call out Wizards on their price gouging and (sometimes!) poor deck construction. Hearing you speak about this matters a lot.
Congrats on hitting the 1m subscribers. This is so awesome. Well deserved ❤
Everyone keeps saying the Goyf deck is bad, but I've seen it dominate in most online games and today at my LGS. It's nowhere near what it "could" be, but people are really underestimating how powerful of an ability Disa has
Everyone reads the first ability and knocks it, when the reality is the second ability is where it's at.
Further more, depending on how you build the deck it can still play well without the commander in play since you can use demons, dragons, vampires, or stompy boys to get your triggers off- which even if the commander is kept off the board can present a win con in itself.
Heck yeah! I played it yesterday and it was a lot of fun and just my style. I am definitely going to streamline and get rid of the sacrifice stuff
5:04 “what in the Flying Spaghetti Monster tax is this?!” Ramen!
Hey Brian I just wanted to say thank you for a level headed take here, one of your best videos imo.
$140??? My printer can do it for $3!!
I just miss the days of the 20 decks. Those were fun and an affordable way into commander.
Also still can't wait for that Behind the Campus video!
My wife works at Legends Comix and Games in Littleton, MA. They are selling the commander decks for $70 and the collector decks for $170.
Going to a prerelease tonight, so wish me luck!
But yeah, this set looks fun and I am definitely tempted to get the energy deck
GL HF!
I thought we were done with the Thicc proxy commander 😅
I guess this will be an eternal back and forth lol
I'd actually really love continuing the special art commanders without the thick proxy :/
The timeline between making these decisions and actually releasing the products can get wonky, I assume they decided to switch from THICC to full-art commanders somewhere in-between finishing MH3 and releasing OTJ.
As someone else has said, we are most likely done, but supplemental products are made on a different timeline than premiere sets, and that goes double for UB praducts, so we will probably still see them still for a handful of sets before they truly disappear.
Another amazing review!!! The best mtg content creator period!!
Well im suddenly happy i got all 4 for 47.50 each .... jeezzz. I'm also sad i agree so very much.
Same
Love from Italy Prof! Always wonderfull videos here
It’s going to be a great day im attending my first ever prerelease event and it’s with my group of friends that got me into commander
that sounds awesome dude, hope you have fun
Cool! Remember, prerelease isn't about winning, it's about having fun!
Enjoy!
I’m so freaking excited I’ve never done a prerelease or a draft and just being able to sit with my friends I have zero expectations of winning but the fun will be in overload levels
@@ShawnR718 best of luck dude. Go have a blast and bless the pulls
@@ShawnR718 Hope you have a great time! Would genuinely love to hear how it went, what you built, and what exciting pulls you got!
I was able to try Creative Energy last night and it was a blast. The commander really does a ton of legwork making energy work in commander - although I wouldn't consider anything going on there premium.
I ordered the bundle of these a month ago, and I'm glad I did, because the Jund deck has enough spice in it for what I want that even if I don't keep it together, I'm still going to be glad I got it. The bundle was at about $55-$60 per deck, and it has since shot up to $300 since the deck lists came out, so I'm glad I got on board when I did. Eldrazi are basically one of the only times I feel like preordering is a good idea, because I've been trying to get my hands on Zhulodok as well, and the only times I've seen it under a hundred bucks, the package has had mail errors that forced me to refund.
I managed to snap up both tricky terrain and the eldrazi decks for the same price as the other precons back in April, absolutely outrageous that stores charge what they do. My LGS sells them all £60-70, but unlikely anyone will be able to get the eldrazi one since everyone and their whole family wants one
ur so close to 1 mil subscribers. Well done
I'm glad that i'm getting my precons from my LGS cause they are at least as close to MSRP as possible (I paid ~220 USD for all 4 decks which is ~55 USD per deck). Still the price gauging is absurd. Keep up with good work Doc :D
Commenting here since it's the most recent vid, congrats on the million subs Prof!
I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks 120 and now 600 some places for the premium eldrazi deck is insane
600 for premium is the Amazon price on 6/7/24
@@RetroPillowcase yea never in this lifetime will I spend 600 for a preconstructed deck
600 is supposed to be for all 4 decks. 600 for a single deck is gouging
Try calling around to LGS I was able to get the Eldrazi for $80-90 by ordering through them instead of TCG Player.
I preordered eldrazi incursion in March for 70 and am feeling so good about that decision
I'm happy that I was able to pre order the Eldrazi deck for about $69 instead of $140
The Eldrazi Deck is 138$ USD… wait six months and buy the singles for a fraction of the price. Wizards needs to establish an msrp.
Not going to happen. They intentionally eliminated MSRP so they could get in on the scalping. This is by design.
I got the complete deck set for a bit under 200€. I'm considering just reselling the eldrazi-deck because it just doesn't seem like the card in that deck are worth a 120 bucks.
What would an MSRP change? Genuinely asking. If they were $20 each or $99 each msrp, supply and demand takes over regardless, and people pay as much as they value it. That happens any way.
thing is wotc used to have an msrp but stores kept pricing over it so instead of incentivizing them to price fairly they just said fuck it and stopped suggesting it
The more expensive MTG gets, the more exclusive MTG becomes.
21:00 man, it’s wild hearing this price and remembering how you could break into standard back in like 2002-ish with $20 and a trip to k-mart for two copies of the affinity precon in base mirrodin. Prices now are insane and indicative of a real problem where corporate brain rot is actively attacking its consumer base. Hobby affordability is dying and it’s a tragedy.
Speaking of horizons...1 million subscribers is on yours! Hell, even closer than that...well deserved!
I'm watching this while working on my proxies. The cost of this game has gotten completely out of hand. Singles and sealed.
LET'S GOOOOOO! I have been waiting for this video 😄
I preordered all of the decks for a total of $180, thus getting each for $45 and boy howdy am I glad I did. I'm going to rip apart GY overdrive and add in all the goyfs I can because I just love the idea of a lhurgoyf reanimator deck so much and I don't own a jund commander deck yet. Tricky terrain and the energy deck also seem super fun to upgrade, and ironically enough I'm least excited for the eldrazi deck
I'm a cedh player so I don't care much for normal EDH decks but that Eldrazi precon is the rare type of deck where there's no way it's gonna fly at a casual table and it's not good enough for higher metas.
I go to casual events at my local LGS and just played against a control Eldrazi deck. It was awful lol. I think a lot of people don't realize how powerful Eldrazi synergy is and are just like "c'mon, look how high the cast cost is!" meanwhile they had 5 Eldrazi out on turn 7 and no one could interact with their board.
@@kevinthecarpathian I have a special "Grixis lockdown" deck just for this type of situation. I won't win the game, but you won't either lmfao
I miss the MSRP
Was able to preorder a set for $180 so yes, all the worth its.
You got lucky.
It cost me and my group around 240 after tax, so 60 per person for us each to have 1.
Oivei
We need MSRP
How did you preorder a set for that much? Pricing error from an lgs?
@@TostonDePanano clue.
My friend is the one who did the Pre-order. He just divided the cost of the case by 4. If I were to hazzard a guess, considering the last couple of Special Commander sets had each deck baseline at 60ish (at least in our area big box stores) that was were the store got the price. So if our LGS did make an oopsie, I can deal.
As a policy he makes sure to never price gouge or upcharge. So, this was likely just a mistake. Or it could even be an issue of the distributor side making him make an error.
@@TostonDePana It was my country's preorder price from the leading LGS. Philippines. 10500 pesos = $180. It did go up after a few days to $220.
I haven't bought any sealed Magic stuff in a few years but I was really interested in the MH3 Commander decks and looked into going to a prerelease at my favorite LGS.
It was $100 for registration.
$50 for me. Going tonight for sealed.
So weird. All the games I’ve seen (and I’ve seen a lot) the Disa deck kicked ass every time. It looked so much better than the other decks 😂 I’m shocked he was so down on it!
They should have made Modern Challenger decks for MH 3, not Commander decks.
Guya just wait, they'll keep reprinting the eldrazi deck. Just wait.
I hope. It's been out of stock on Amazon for like 2 months, and that's their "official" retail channel.
I was lucky to get the eldrazi incursion at $80. that was the preorder from my LGS. I'll happily pay a little more at my LGS to get them more business as well :)
Commenting on this as it's the newest video. CONGRATS ON ONE MILLION!!! I've been subscribed for many many years, you are so deserving of this. You have been a huge part of why I love this game so much. Thank you for being you.
too late I buy all MTG products without thinking
I feel like I shouldn't, but I want Magic to start doing worse. I want my community around me to grow, but I want the rampant catering to commander players to wither. It's so extravagant now.
Once people begin leaving over the prices, they will not come back, no matter how much wild stuff WotC reprints for cheap.
The only way for it to wither is for consumers to locate their backbones. It's so disheartening seeing these videos and the comments are always filled with "thank God I pre-ordered all 4 before anyone even knew what was in this set" like holy addiction. I can't fathom buying $50 worth of ??? and yet it seems like such a common practice.
I love that the professor isn’t afraid to potentially upset WotC and actually voice the opinions of the community at large. Met him at a convention last year, and it’s awesome to see someone with a following actually care about the community that brought them to where they are now
the background at 4:00 looks like the Donkey Kong 64 boss stage from Didi kong where you fight the jumping clown
"I don't feel like the price on these products correlates with inflation." Okay dude, but why don't you actually look it up instead of going with your feelings? $35 in 2009 = $51.15 today. 51.15 * 1.67 to adjust up from 60 cards to 100 = $85.25. These are selling on average for $76.16. So yeah, these are effectively 9 cents cheaper per card than inflation adjusted premium deck series. This isn't even hard to check. Use your brain instead of just listening to your feelings.
You're comparing to the normal versions, not the foil versions. The premium Deck Series were all foil.
I appreciate the honesty and clarification that the professor always provides in his videos. 🙏🏼🧙🏽♂️🙏🏼
I just got the Simic one from my LGS for $50 regular edition. Can't wait to pick it up tomorrow!
I was just existing today and thought, “Huh, if I’m still deciding on which precon to get, maybe prof’s video on the precon overview will help. And what do you know, he came out with one an hour ago. Handy dandy Prof, keep doing your amazing work so aren’t lost❤.
The Professor and Wubby need to do a colab!!
Would be a tale ill tell my grandkids😂
I was very fortunate to get these all in a bundle at 55$ each... That doesn't change that the price is, and will be RIDICULOUS for Eldrazi Incursion.
Any day now until prof hits 1m… I care more about that than any of the recent sets lol
I just realized that the Prof's nervous energys sometimes reminds me a bit of Morty^^
I picked up the whole set for $200 when tcgplayer did their big May sale. I know I'm probably going to have to wait a while for them to ship to me, but with the tcgplayer store credit plus the fact that that the two i was interested in would have cost me roughly $200 anyway, it ended up being the best option at the time.
Hey there TCC gang. I just heard about your million subs and wanted to congratulate you. I hope all is well on the road to your next million.
It's funny that the premium precons can be hard to find IRL...I picked one up in a card shop today in Shelbyville, Tennessee...which is a pretty small town, as those things go.
Creative energy may not be the best but it might be the most fun! Being an aggro strategy that isn't voltron mixed with some crazy synergistic upgrades should at least lead to having a good time win or loss. My favorite is probably Swooping Pteranodon can net you your own copy of an opponent's commander while allowing you to kill theirs via the legend rule while it's under your control. If you throw in a sac outlet which may not be a bad call regardless as you lose your token copies if you don't pay for them at end of turn, then it turns into free removal every combat phase
WotC are expecting insane amounts of money for a box of cardboard.
The old Premium Deck Series really is a stellar example of how they could do better on this front- those decks were all foil, came with tuckboxes and spindown counters, and were even in much larger and more unnecesarrily expensive packaging, and they were priced low enough that I could actually afford one. (Two, actually- when Graveborn came out I got one for me AND one for a friend!).
That line definitely had some problems, but those stemmed more from availability and lack of variety than anything else.
My local shop sold Each for $50. But a more bigger store I attend at time had the Eldrazi deck for 130$!!!
Congrats on the 1million subs professor! Finally hit that milestone today and deservedly so.
Not me watching this video while sleeving up my brand new Graveyard Overdrive… the back-up commander seems like a lot of fun though!!
> I have too much money, like so much money, what am I to do with this money???
WOTC: And that is our basic customer profile
Thank you for being honest. I'm new to the game, and I wanted to experience building my own deck slowly, but after 5 months and 400 cards later I gave up and bought a pre-con because I couldnt put anything cohesive together. I guess I'm one of those weirdos that likes the process of investigating and slowly curating my own deck. But prices are outrageous! And even if I buy singles, with shipping it would be a lot more expensive than a not so popular pre-con at $40-50. Lately I have seen that even the pre-cons are outrageous like the MH3 Eldrazi and the LCI veloci-ramp-tor. I think the best thing a new player can do is buy a good but not so poular pre-con like the LCI Merefolk, and do minor upgrades here and there, but to me it takes A LOT of the fun out of the game, since I wanted to "gather" 🙄.
Just a heads up Prof - the collector decks were NOT Premium store exclusives. I work for a non-premium LGS and we got some in - albeit, a very low number.
Also, the cost of the non collector decks were in the $40 range, suggesting to me they were intended to be $60 or $70 MSRP. Those listing the 2 underperforming decks below $50 are doing so because they are not selling well, and the Eldrazi deck is being marked up (partially) so that LGS's can make up cost of the other 2 decks sitting.
Thank you for your insight, Professor. I can’t thank you enough for your outspoken yet polite take on these precons. I hope WotC listens up and works on correcting these prices!
Dear Professor. Phoenix fire games in Meridian Idaho, is selling the Eldrazi deck for $70 and the collectors version for $170. I talked to them and they said their margins are 40%. Saying that anything over these prices is scalping. Said that every game store in the area got these commanders for exactly the same price. So yes the Eldrazi was absolutely scalped all because Amazon listed it as that price.
You are the man, Prof! I recently got into MTG and love all your videos. Going to join the next whatnot to get one of those signed cards. Hope you get 1mil subscribers soon. Cheers
Haven't played Magic in years, but these videos still pop up and I enjoy watching them. Prof is slowly loosing his mind by Wizards greed.
I don't know. From the commamder games I've seen so far, Graveyard Overdrive has been one of the more consistent decks out of the bunch alongside Tricky Terrain. I went with Graveyard Overdrive because I just recently picked up an Adrix and Nev, Twincasters Simic precon for dirt cheap at the Walmart that I work at and I've yet to build a Jund deck.
I have two friends who want to buy the Eldrazi Incursion precon. While I'm not trying to sway them away from buying them, I let them know it's going to cost some actual money on top of the already overinflated resale price to get that deck running optimally. But it's that right there. The cost is BY FAR the biggest issue with all of these precons. WOTC heavily uses FOMO when it comes to their more limited run/big expansions like Modern Horizons, Commander Masters, anything Universes Beyond, etc as an excuse to jack the price up to astronomical amounts. It's not cool and I'm glad that you're calling WOTC out for doing so regardless of the quality of the products.
I was lucky to get the Eldrazi incursion precon for $70 at my LGS. I love your videos and informative insight.
So glad my LGS is a premium store and that I am a patreon. I was able to get the bundle of decks for $200. Couldn't find any offer better than that.
Once again, fantastic video! My FLGS had my reserves come in today and I had them swap out the Graveyard Overdrive for Tricky Terrain thanks to your breakdown. Grabbed that and the Eldrazi for $60 a piece.
I was able to preorder the tricky terrain for $55. Supper excited to play and upgrade it.
Thx again for being no fan boy and being critical to you Favorit Hobby.
Love your videos, thank you for speaking up about these decks and Wizards of the Cost problem. I appreciate you and your teams work! Thank you Professor!
2 weeks after release it'd be $93.14 to build Eldrazi Incursion from singles, $106.51 for Tricky Terrain, $47.79 for Creative Energy, and $56.08 to build Graveyard Overdrive. But most of the LGS around me are still stocking each deck for $70 now (Eldrazi's still $120).
If you're wondering, the foils of the collectors precon are beautiful. Out of the box, there was little to no curling. I hope they continue using the same foiling with other sets.