Show vs. Working vs. Pet Dobermans - How They're Different!
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- Опубліковано 7 тра 2022
- What are the differences between Show Dobermans, Working or Sport Dobermans, and Pet Dobermans? These are the main behavioral and health differences between these three Doberman types. If you don't know which type of Doberman you should get, this video is for you! Luckily, the Doberman is an extremely versatile dog and it can fit into a variety of roles easily. Even so, most breeders out there breed for a specific type of Doberman. Either a Show Doberman, Working/Sport Doberman, or a Pet Doberman. Here's what you can expect from each of these!
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I'm from Germany and have a working dobermann. I'm walking/training her 3-4 hours a day she is so powerful. I agree, she is more stubborn and more emo than my last doberman, she doesn't want to cuddle all the time like my maledobi. Because she has a job, she has to protect me, the house, the garden....the whole street🤣🤣🤣
I agree... "working line Dobermanns", once they know your personality...sometimes will stop (or relax) with all the clinging behavior. they may find a few spots where they can watch you - from a distance and still guard the house, look out windows or take their favorite 'chew toy' to play with.
one ear up (on radar sweep). they are still "On duty" - even if they look like they are 1/2 asleep. If you move...they will be up in seconds.
I would like to talk to you about a male and a female one red and a male that's black and tan okay and the price of them
That's awesome. Keep up the good work. I also have a friend who us to live here in the U.S. but has moved to Germany.
As an experienced Doberman owner for over 40 years, I am so glad you produced this video. New Dobie owners NEED to know these points!
John is such a humble guy, but really when watching his videos one must realize that he is truly a subject matter expert on the topic of Doberman pinschers. I only wish that I had his advice four years ago because it truly helps the novice select the right type of Doberman Pinscher. I was fortunate in that the b**** that I received was a show dog that was not selected for show because of her slightly different temperament and marginally deformed left ear. It's quite difficult to notice unless the trained eye looks at the animal. But again, here John demonstrates his comprehensive knowledge and expertise of the breed; my Doberman is a highly excellent pet as they show dog that was never exhibited. Demonstrating all of the traits that Dobermans are well known with an excellent reputation for such as loyalty, love, companionship, protection, over the top intelligence and fairly high energy level. Thanks so much again John for sharing your knowledge and wisdom with us on this truly best breed. Take care.
THANK YOU!! I have been waiting for this video for awhile now this will help a whole lot!! Im getting my working line european doberman Xzen on Aug 8th! I cant wait
Fuck is a xzen
Same here. Been searching the whole web about the differences but never found any answers.
How is he
Not sure if you’re familiar with the breeder Prima Dobes out of Washington state, but they’re a show dog breeder that ticks all the right boxes you’d want a breeder to have.
Great communication with owners, lends out holters for owners each year, matches each dog’s personality to each buyer, and obviously breeds gorgeous dogs
I've talked with them before and they are great. Ill hopefully be on their waitlist soon
Right boxes?!? Their Dobermans are DCM 2 homo and hetero… they’re contributing to the problem. Their not bettering the breed.
@@daylaholleman9584 I wouldn’t unless you want a shorten lifespan on a brilliant breed! One of their dogs just passed from dcm…
@jaydaniel1905 which dog was it?
Shoutout to my breeder, who focuses on pet quality...and has mutiple phone/video conversations to be SURE the people & pup will match❤
Definitely listen to John’s advice on exercise! If you don’t have a way to get your Dobie exhausted a few times a week, you will have problems! Conversely, if you are having problems (training, anxiety, reactive/aggressive, etc.) increase the activity level. In my household, a tired Doberman is a happy Doberman!
I have a high energy, high drive, headstrong, stubborn and assertive Dobe who is also prone to anxiety. When she's focused, nothing else exists and she requires insane amounts of exercise. But she's fun, loving and totally dedicated to us. A family.
Mines exactly the same
@@rtv3801 I always say that her childhood took months off our lives 😂 It was almost insane. She whines when she see's agility setup or places where she can chase the ball and has an extremely low boredom threshold. They're smart, which is great. Horrifying too. Sometimes I listen to people who have a Bernese or something similar and I envy them a bit but I wouldn't want it otherwise in reality.
I got American style Hungarian in London Kobe
he’s 6 months old and absolutely massive looks like the middle one in your thumb nail
Thanks for the upload
I love all dobermans!!!❤❤❤🤗🙋♀️
I just got a second Doberman he's 4 months old and my other Doberman is 2 today. Good vid👍
Nice, wish i could get one anytime soon... I've had a Boxer but never a Doberman. Are people scared of you guys when you walk with them? Lol
@@risky_.y8137 everybody but white people 💯 and that's not a joke 🤣
@@risky_.y8137 ... Not so much "afraid, as they are curious, often complimentary.
A well trained - centered Dobermann Pinscher , seems - to bring up 'memories' of dogs they have owned in the past, dog owned by neighbors, friends, relatives etc..from passers-by, especially if your dog is healthy... nothing stands out as much as a Dobermann Pinscher, which is well groomed - well behaved - and attentive to it human (owner, person).
The problem comes from other dogs who over-react....seems like some of them hate being ignored...start barking and hiding behind or scramble to hide behind their owners legs? If your Dobermann respects you... its not a problem.
In stores or crowds, you start to develop a 'radar' for people, other dogs who "real' vs. those who may try to ruin your day...by provoking your dog. --- yes, there are really people like that...
Thanks for the video, it's very useful. Thanks John and hello to Arlow
🤩NICE VIDEO, LIKE ALWAYS!! THANKS JHON, greets from belgium, Finn the doberman and Maja 😊❤
I love Doberman you are probily the best Doberman UA-camr 😁
I've had 3 dobermans in my life, the first one was Flash (my father was his master) and he was the only one that died of old age, every Thursday evening we watched Star Trek together on BBC 2. The second one was a brown goofball I got from my uncle, the runt of the litter who became a his namesake Conan, he died from cancer 6 years later. The last one was a very sad story, Matrix was full of energy, exceptionally loving doggo, but developed a nasty hip problem very early, at 4 with the help of the vet, we fixed him with wheels and at 5... he couldn't find any position where the pain wasn't manageable. After that, I went for a Malinois, and when he died of old age... I didn't have the strength to go trough that again. All those dogs were high energy, "dominant" dogs, but never ever did I have any problems, with children or other dogs... Conan was the best friend of my neighbors' kids at the time, they thought him how to play soccer goalie.Tip for those who might fear letting their dogs alone... an old smelly t-shirt will solve all problems.
Yes 👏 on the old smelly tshirt
I'm retired, with a high energy doby. I don't know how you do it, with a full time job. He's ready to go all day, I love it, but not for everybody. 👍
Breeders do pay a lot of attention to temperament when breeding for show Dobermans. My mom is a breeder and eliminated a beautiful stud from our list of potential sires solely on his behavior.
Your mom is a fantastic breeder then! Amazing breeders will always choose what's best for the betterment of their dogs and the breed. This is so lovely to hear in a day and age where backyard breeding and puppymills are churning out pups like crazy.
Would you feel comfortable sharing her website?
@@cramwithcamila Arete Dobermans
Thank you!
In Europe we have show and working lines.
The working dobermans are lighter than the show.
But I always had show bods and two of them had igp1.
Ipo called this time.
Great content but I am confused that if my dobermans are sporting dogs or pets. Please make a video on 'How to recognize the type of your doberman'.
If you don't work your dog in any way, only with receiving daily walks, nothing too intense and he is a moderately well behaved dog, you have a pet Doberman. If on the other hand your dog is out of control, always trying to bite things, and restless (even when you have done your part in being a good knowledgeable leader) you might have a sporting Doberman. Unless you are working your Doberman, and he is able to do it, then he will be well behaved in the house because he has his needs met (but i assume that anyone wondering this question doesn't have their Doberman working, or they wouldn't need to ask). Basically the working (sporting) Doberman needs a lot more exercise and mental stimulation than most other Dobies. Even the pet ones need exercise or they will become destructive, but working lines need a lot more or they will be a nightmare. So if you feel like your Doberman has a lot more exercise and mental simulation requirements than other Dobermans, you could have a sporting/working Doberman, but if he is out of his crazy puppy stage and mostly chill with a walk or two a day then he is probably a pet.
@@risky_.y8137 ... Talk to the "Breeder" before selecting or taking the dog home... I am saddened by the number of (Papered, pedigreed - Dobermann Pinschers being surrendered to Dobermann rescue or even even worse...to city, county - ASPCA.
The explanation provided? - I didn't realize(?) (?) how much time I needed to spend in training... the most useless excuse - the dog doesn't seem to want to "bond" with my kids?
As a doberman owner I approve this channel.
Can you please do a video on holter monitoring. I’m sure your puppy is ready for his first one. I have lost five to dcm. So I make sure I holter and have echos done on my dogs . First echo at 2 years old and fury holter at 1.5-2 years. So I have a baseline at the cardiologist. I holter every year, unless I see a issue. Thank you
Good job Thank you very loving the breed!
I love this channel always interesting
I see where your channel is going. Owning multiple dobermans is a good subject. They definitely have different personalities
Very well Subject of the Program.! 👏👏👍
Informative John as always
As I have no patience for show participation
Working is the way to go for sure
Thank you so much for making these videos! I have a 4 month Doberman girl and I’ve watched you from the beginning. Super helpful!
Thank you again for another balanced, adult discussion of the different roles different Dobermanns can and do play. Too often online I find working line owner / breeders looking down their noses at show owners / breeders - ensuing arguments resemble teenagers slinging insults 😆
There’s room in this world for all types of dobes
Honestly I love them all, and would be happy with either of them.
Miss seeing your doberman. Hope he is doing well. I am not at a stage where I can adpot a pet, I used to enjoy and enterrained myself Arlo, hope i spelled his name correctly. Enjoy him for me too. Thank you for sharing.
So cute Doberman 💙
Thanks.
Very helpful. 🙏🏻👍🏻😃
And a very interesting types of doberman.
Wonderful video john but since we have seen the difference in the kinds of doberman I am looking for where I can get a pure breed working doberman and you are the expert so I would really want to know please take this to consideration
Thank you so much for answering my question about the white patch!!your videos are awesome 👏
How about an occasional cameo appearance of Arlo?
I got my Dobie puppy Monday 0n the 18th and he's just light up the room, currently trying to set up some playdate for him with little luck 😅
I have had two doberman that came from show breeders. One had only one testicle and the other had a missing tooth. I got them both around 12 week old. They made excellent companions for me and my family. if you give them the exercise that they need they are an ideal dog. Otherwise get a 15 pound schnauzer.
Thank you for these vids. I’ll be coming here often to gain as much knowledge as possible before I bring my first Doberman home in December.
Hey my boy Kenai is in that show ring video with Adrian Woodfork handling him 😊
Great to see! My Dobermann was an interest of a family friend since they compete in shows. It was nice getting some tips every now and then, but it’s also cool to see how we would raise our Dobermans differently according to lifestyle since my Raya is a pet while my cousin who has Raya’s brother is a working Doberman :D
My blue Dobie is a service and guard dog! And of course my best friend.
I have a question and I Want you to pls respond I been wanting to buy a doberman but idk where I can get 1 I seen websites but I don't trust then because they cost 500 and 680 I seen that they cost 2500 do you have any idea where I could find 1
I got a 11 week old Doberman his 12 weeks now his very hyper one and very smart too it took me 3 times to teach him how to chake a paw he learn things quick but he loves to cuddle too so I'm wondering what d I have lol
If anyone knows where I can get a pet doberman puppy in the US, please let me know.
I'm in British Columbia Canada and am looking for a Doberman dog and can't find any breeders if anyone can please give me some help locating one
I have a working European Dobermann and I can say with absolute certainty that they can be a handful. Wonderful dog, and the best dog I have ever had but he can be a nightmare! He is very well trained, very calm and kind with all people and animals; HOWEVER, if it is in HIS yard or near HIS house, or HIS car, if it moves it dies. He is a godless killing machine with no sense of self preservation. Broken teeth from going after and killing rats/birds, full TPLO on both knees... his injury list is very long and all self-inflicted. All this being said, he is incredibly kind, caring, loving, and just wants to cuddle any chance he gets. 130 pounds of pure love and destruction. :)
When training a large breed, what kind of training reinforcement is best: just positive reinforcement or is a physical correction ever applied? I've only ever used positive reinforcement but also have only owned small breeds. I have always wondered what an 'experienced' owner for a strong willed powerful breed implies. Thanks in advance for any answers!😜
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Don't forget to train shot resistance so they get used to gunshots, rattles from chains, a flapping piece of cloth, etc. They must absolutely not run away from such challenges but must ignore them. Then you have a Dobermann to trust if something serious were to occur.
Can a pet be lower energy for an older person?
I am first time dog owner, recently i have bought siblings (male and Female), right now they are 2 months 10days, i have an issue, their play turn lethal after sometime and start biting, this is the third time it has happened in two days, what could be the solution? plz guide
I assume the female is likely the aggressor? litter mates who are male female will tend to develop gender traits where the female expects the male defer to her. His job is to handle the stuff outside the den. he probably still thinks he is the Alpha, because of the size difference. which leaves her with the only option... to ramp up her display.
It would be easier if the pair were from different litters.
I've seen this behavior in mating pairs, where the female will not let the male anywhere near her pups .... until she is sure of his intentions.
Bravo! Great video! I’m in the sport Doberman world. Just got my 11 week old male from Croatia. I found this breeder sometime last year and she breeds show and working lines. I had to wait a year for the puppy that was going to be part of our working family. I look for longevity in the lines and of course working ability. Most people that breed working lines also normally have a couple of puppies that do not have the drive and additude to be a sport dog. They are sold as pet dogs. I had show dogs years ago. Most breeders that have working lines require you to title the puppy, to get breeding rights they sell their pets with limited registration.
Something I didn’t know, I don’t have breeding rights. Not a big deal I’m not going to breed so I didn’t question it. Or I didn’t understand what I was told at the time. Great information, I have two 7 month old pups and yes exercise is the most important thing with them. They get so much exercise on our small farm and having each other helps a ton, plus both pups have chores they do each day. 🤙🏻
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I have a European Doberman bitch. She is a calm and gentle loving dog who goes most places with me. She love meeting people and other animals.
Pet doberman all day long......they can do it all......❤️
I had two European working Dobermanns and both were gentle to my kids and familiy
Hi, I prefer the "pet" type Dobe. I don't like the "show" Dobies, they seem too thin to me ,plus I just do not like the "show" crop of the ears. I am slowly getting closer to my long awaited RED Dobie. I plan on having him/her professionally trained, because I 'm too old to do it myself now, like I did many years ago. Thank you for your interesting videos.
I’m looking to get one in Louisiana. But all I’m been talking to are scammers 😡😡😡.
You missed out the DCM and Other Things in health
I am looking for a dobe currently. Lots of scams out there, and if anyone could point me in a good direction that'd be great! Also not looking to dump 5 grand right off the rip.
Very interesting and a tad confusing... So, if you are going to use a working Doberman as a service dog - and the person who owns the service dog can't take the dog out for, say, an hour-long walk twice a day - how will the dog do then? If instead, the service dog has tasks, like typical service dog tasks, for example. And the owner can take the dog for half an hour walk, twice a day - would that be okay?
- Will the working Doberman feel like it doesn't get enough energy outlets, so to speak? Or is it okay that it just gets different (mental and physical) ways of letting out all that energy? What if the person needing the service dog is a first-time owner (of a dog in general)? Is it okay if that person has taken the time to learn about the Doberman breed and dog behavior/dog training (both specific for the Doberman and dogs in general) to get a Doberman? How does that work?
- To sum it up: if a Doberman owner gives the Doberman different tasks (around the house, outdoors on walks, etc.) and takes the dog for about half an hour of walks twice a day, will that be good enough for a working Doberman? ☺- Great video as always. I love watching your videos and learning new things about the Doberman breed!! 😎
I’m not an expert but there are also other ways to to burn off their energy. He made a video of 7 ways to exercise your dobie for lazy people. Not that you’re lazy, that’s just the name of the video. There’s dog safe bubbles you can add to a machine and they’ll chase those around. Or supervised on a treadmill. Puzzle toys are also good.
@@rubirojas42 Ah, I don’t think I’ve seen that video… But I will definitely check it out right away 😄 Thank you 😊
I got a working line 3/4 euro dobie as my first dobie and let me tell you, if you arent an active guy then you're done. i used to run 20km daily and my guy still has much more energy than me. i love him to death though and we train a lot to keep him busy
Your Dobermann is your best friend and companion and should follow to your office and all your daily occupation then you will have nice dog. Just like humans, they become mentally fatigued from constantly experiencing new environments and challenges, which makes them tired after a full day's work. That´s how you get happy dog. 😊
Do you think that in a show ring you can see the fear of a dog, the weaknesses, the fear of a gunshot which is unacceptable in a guard breed and generally how you can evaluate a dog if you don't make some scenarios? Sorry but show lines are show lines, and no there us not sign of temperament except from extreme characteristics
I say guard dog is the best one I want to adopt two doberman and train them to rip intruders in two I had a dog my profile picture he was so little and he sacrificed himself for us when we had a home invasion we all lived but he was so loyal so i want a dig big enough to protect themselves and others. RIP Kasper❤️
Do you follow Robert Canal or K9 Shield here on UA-cam? Just curious if you have taken either one of the protection work classes.
@@AprilCunningham yes I have with the I always wanted for him to live a normal life my mom insisted and it saved our lives we were able to hold them off with kasper help but it easy to get ups on a smaller dog
When I first saw your channel, I spent a weekend binge watching your videos. I now watch your new videos every Sunday. I have learned so much about the breed.
I had a doberman when I was in 8th grade. This was in the early 1980's. I was in dental school when She passed away 15 years later. As. an adult, I have always worked extremely long hours and knew I could not devote the proper time to care for a dog. I have always just kept family members dogs from time to time to help make up for the fact that I did not have a dog of my own. I will retire in the next 2 years, and I plan to get a doberman. I have been researching and also following some online forums to educate myself on training and proper doberman care.
I see lots of people online discussing training and behavior problems. I wonder sometimes if the breed has changed. We never did any formal training, but she was always well behaved. I had never heard of the term "Velcro Doberman." When I see old family photos, I do notice that she is usually leaning on my dad. I guess he was her major person, but she was so loving to everyone that It never occurred to any of us that she may have been more attached to any one family member.
She just picked up on the idea that using the bathroom outside was better than inside. She did occasionally have an "accident' inside. She would always alert my mom that this had happened. My mom would usually clean this up, and our doberman would watch her clean up. My mom would always hug her and tell her how good she was for letting us know. My mom did not ever want her to feel bad for using the bathroom inside. I am surprised that our dobie did not read this as encouragement to continue to go inside. This only happened a handful of times.
With the challenges I see online related to doberman behavior, I sometimes wonder if the breed has changed over the years. I do plan on educating myself on proper training so I will be prepared when I do get a doberman.
Another thing. I do not know If our doberman was an American or a European variety. My dad bought her from a local business that sold "Protection Dogs." He paid $100 She was 2 months old had been cropped. She was malnourished covered with fleas and ticks and had infected ears with embedded non resorbable sutures.
As an adult, she was a medium sized dog, an weighed about 50 to 60 pounds. I am not sure if some breeders breed for this smaller size. She was the perfect size.
I have an European working Dobermann and she is a great pet.
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Really informative and interesting, thank you! I don't believe American show dogs are suitable for IPO/Schutzhund sport though, due to their lighter build and slender head - but otherwise Dobermans are incredibly versatile I agree!
Why wouldn't a lighter dog work for bitesports?
@@timmyadam3542 it's the working dog vs show dog thing ... working dogs have a stronger body and jaw
@@murielsherwood5380 by your standards a pitbull would be better than a shep. Your splitting hairs. A lighter dog is gonna have less impact on on their joints... ever seen a malinois? Def not a heavy thick headed dog.
@@timmyadam3542 oh please get over yourself, talk about splitting hairs, it's not my opinion but the opinion of those involved in the sport. Do your research, malinois and other breeds are a totally different story. If you research you will find American breeders will import European dobermans but not vice versa. It is to do with the American show breed not being strong enough for IPO. Don't take it personally. The lighter breed is also more manageable and better for families or pets as DP video shows. All dogs are beautiful, amazing and man's best friend.
What if my dog wants to lick the judges? Lol
Wouldn’t it be logical for the Doberman Pincher Club of American, FCI, and AKC to require that competing show and working line dogs have a maximum allowable COI to improve diversity?
Which type of Dóberman do you prefer?
Why would a larger doberman be better for sport? I've never seen any super large dogs doing work in military or policing... Xl doesn't seem like the way to go.
Larger .... can mean different things to different people...different situations.
stronger bone structures, more robust joints... larger chests (for better breathing when in stressful situations) doesn't mean looking for 130lb dobermanns! for field work.
A dog being used as a security on fences...is not the same dog you might want, if you were jumping out of a helicopter, scampering up mountains.
However, in both cases you may want a versatile, fast manageable - trusted dog...a man stopper, who follows commands... as well as is able to anticipate taking action.
From what I've been seeing, reading about. Many police dogs are unreliable ...because their "handlers" think they know better than the original breeder/trainer. If the handler doesn't believe in his dog... then the dog is 'wasted'.
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I have a "pet" doberman.and I gotta walk like 4 miles a day with her after work
Xena , is 3/4 European 1/4 American, she is so sweet, true Family
All of my dobermans in my family turned out to be knuckleheads. Every single one.
Probably from the lack of owner training
only Americans think that the american doberman is a good example of the doberman
My doberman has 45 staples in her right now She got impelled by a tree branch yesterday I was just wondering when do you think I could take on for walks on the street instead of just being in the yard in the house She looks like she's walking fineThe cut is pretty bad it's still draining so there's blood leaking out everywhereYou know when you just want to talk to someone that you have no idea what to say or do
There’s a HUGE ! difference! And to be honest it can still be luck of the draw
I only care if one is less likely to the insane doberman health problems than the others
Arlo is a European Doberman right?
What is a "pet" Doberman.... Every Doberman that has been trained properly.
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Dobermans honor they "STIGMA".
pet/show are the same
I’ve come to realization I have a Sports Red Doberman-@Noahthereddoberman