On the R5 1st Curtain Electronic shutter or fully mechanical is way to get longer exposures. If fully electronic shutter selected then 0.5s is the max. Caught me out initially too!
Electronic Shutter Mode on the R5 limits you to only .5 second whereas electronic 1st curtain or mechanical shutter settings allow you to go to 30 seconds. Just the nature of the beast...
Really? That’s interesting. The R6 II goes to 30” in electronic or mechanical. Looks like the R6 MKI only does .5”. That could probably be a firmware fix on canon’s end, since the sensor readout shouldn’t be a bottleneck like on the R6, but they will probably hold it for the MKII version.
I addition to the limit of 0.5 seconds, in electric shutter mode, files are only captured in 12 bit. You have to use the other 2 shutter modes to capture 14 bit files.
Yep. This is it. Go electronic first curtain if you need longer exposures. Also… electronic shutter only gives you 12bit raw files, vs elec 1st curtain and mechanical are proper 14bit raw files.
That's interesting. I predominantly use ES on my X-T2 and switch only to mechanical shutter where circumstances dictate it (flash sync, rolling shutter problems etc). I wonder if there's a trade off in resolution for this strategy?
If Chris has focus bracketing turned on, that might be why the R5 won't let him set an shutter speed longer than 1/2 second. Either that or he's using electronic shutter. If he switches to mechanical shutter or electronic first curtain shutter he'll be fine up to 30 seconds or use bulb mode for exposures longer than 30 seconds. (The R5 has a timer that can be set for bulb mode.)
Loving that spot with the waterfalls. Any waterfalls really. Hell, I get all teary-eyed when I turn in the faucet. Lol. (No waterfalls here) Fun video. Thanks!
Interesting about the R5 long exposure limit, thanks for the information everyone. Great video Gavin and nice to see everyone contributing to the fun. Composition tips will come in handy 😊
Great fun group - still astounds me that Gavin doesn’t have 5 million followers… so much work goes into this , always entertaining ( naturally too , Not forced ) and great teaching moments . 1) R5 slow shutter issue answered many times - get it to mechanical or first curtain 2) Chris - get an L-bracket and stop hanging your vertices off the ball head and changing the parallax (?) on panoramic shots and weight shift . I have two Three Legged Thing L brackets for my R/R5/R7 and the RRS one for my R3 . Gavin - keep it up - love the collection of characters - you found Ben from New Jersey who shoots Leica ! - now you just need to find a Pentax K1 shooter . Awesomeness exemplified and here’s to more great fun .
Always look forward to your episodes, and this one certainly didn’t disappoint. Your suggestions on shot composition was really interesting and helpful. Roll on the next one. Nice one Gavin.
In order to go below .5 second electronic shutter speed on the R5 you have to upgrade it to the new R5 mark2 when it comes out 😂 or go into mechanical Great video as always Gavin!
Exactly right, 0.5 sec max in electronic shutter on the R5. It also won't do exposure bracketing in electronic shutter mode. Neither are issues with my R7, so hopefully the R52 will remove those shortcomings as well!
Or use electronic first shutter. It's just as quiet and can take long exposures. It also eliminates the vibration of the mechanical shutter, and unlike the electronic shutter it takes 14-bit images, not 12 bit! I really haven't found any benefit to using the mechanical shutter for landscape photography.
Great video Gavin, you seemed a lot more relaxed in this one,great locations and not a bad image to from the Hasselblad, great job and thanks for sharing.
Great video. Great to hear a Huddersfield accent! Lowerhouses Lane myself! Have an r5 myself a and can't understand why can't adjust shutter speed to +30s etc
He’s probably in electronic shutter mode. Also if you use electronic shutter you lower your bit depth. I only use electronic shutter if I want the 20 fps or I need to be silent.
I, too, have a Leica SL2. Not only are the images fabulous, I can rhyme the name! I admit I suffer from severe FSE (flippy screen envy). I'd almost consider a Sony, except I have XXL hands. But then there's Hasselblad! Hmmmm... Great time gentlemen!
Shoot Mechanical Shutter not electronic on the R5 and you'll get up to 30 secs, shoot BULB with longer exposures but there is no cable release socket, use your phone and the Canon Connect app. Uncle Grumpy may help you out he is a tech ..... no just JoKiNg!!!!
As always, entertaining and always looking forward to tips and bloopers. Will have to come out from Manitoba maybe next late spring or summer just for the experience and some good tips!
Very enjoyable! Looks like Ben has been watching Mr. Heaton too: The same tripod and head I believe. Beautiful shot with the Hasselblad. Why no Amanda images?
I was shooting Fuji GFX for a while and wanted to find something that would be super sturdy with longer lenses, especially with the adapted Pentax 67 glass I was using since the GFX system is a bit lacking in that department. I didn't want to reinvent the wheel and I knew that this setup worked well for him, plus I prefer flippy lock tripods.
@5:06 The Canon R5 arbitrarily limits the electronic shutter to 0.5s. It gets right in the way of focus-stacking, amongst other things. Either use manual shutter and forego the fancy drive-modes, or... as I did, send it back.
Another small issue with R5 ES is that the raw file is 12 bits only, which is not really good for landscape shots. As I shoot mostly wildlife with my R5, I use the ES mode extensively, but I wouldn't do it for landscape captures. When I happen to have only my canon with me during a landscape opportunity, I always switch to other shutter mode to gain additional 2 bits.
Yes, it is very annoying that the user cannot control the shutter mode for focus stacking. Especially for product photographers using flashes it renders the camera useless.
@@tamasnemeth2161 Oh dear. I wasn't aware that the bit-depth varied with shutter type; however I do know that it drops from 13 to 12-bit in H+ burst mode. I got the R5 on the assumption that it was their answer to the A7r3 (FF, 42-45MP). Not when Canon can't maintain full sensor-readout in burst mode, it isn't...
@@tamasnemeth2161 Agreed it'll be a pain for product photography. It's also a pain for landscape - sometimes I might want to combine a 6-stop ND for long exposure with a focus-stack for DoF. Oh, and it leaves the focus beyond infinity at the end of a stack rather than resetting to where it started, but I digress... Suffice it to say I'm not kidding when I say I put money where mouth/keyboard is and rejected the R5 ASAP.
There is no such setting in the R5 as focus stacking. There is however a setting called focus bracketing. I can say categorically having it turned off does not fix the 1/2 second exposure limiter in normal operational modes. To get longer exposures you must go to bulb mode and set your your exposure from there.
@@brianrose2342 aye , the only way to get slower than half a second is to shift to bulb mode. You cant go slower than half a second in any mode. If you want to drag the shutter you have to be in bulb mode full stop I don't know why cannon did this, its a pain in the bum.
Great video! Put a big smile on my face :) I haven't checked this myself, but I heard that the R5 loses two stops of dynamic range when in silent mode. I still love that camera though :)
I have a question for Amanda…. Is it an ego boot for Gavin when everyone was named on their videos as Ben, Chris and Jason but it’s “FotoTripper Mr GAVIN HARDCASTLE himself”?…lol At least you got a “Miss Amanda”… Behind every married male Photographer is an awesome Lady that allows them the time and money for their passion! Thank yous for the great videos!
I believe the half second limit is because you are using electronic shutter. I seem to recall my mate mentioning this on the weekend when we were shooting birds.
I feel out of place with my pin hole analog camera. I made it myself out of a cardboard box which cost me nothing. How could I possibly attend one of your training sessions when so ill equipped?
Awesome content Gavin... Always my first Sunday UA-cam search. By way of an enquiry... at around the 14:30min mark (Ben's compositional/light woes)... I know it would be a pain, but could he not merely fix his tripod, taking a couple of notes with each turn made for each separate pano shot (firstly with the background lit)... then repeat approximately the exact same shots with the rock in the foreground, lit or shadowed (as and when it looks better during the day), then combine them all together later on in post? I know the post processing might ruin the artistic side for a talented true e-Leicist (kidding), but is there a reason why someone would not do that, barring the faff? When's Hardcastle Towers returning? Kind regards and much respect.
Did you read my Ebook yet: www.fototripper.com/chasing-awe-ebook/
On the R5 1st Curtain Electronic shutter or fully mechanical is way to get longer exposures. If fully electronic shutter selected then 0.5s is the max. Caught me out initially too!
Electronic Shutter Mode on the R5 limits you to only .5 second whereas electronic 1st curtain or mechanical shutter settings allow you to go to 30 seconds. Just the nature of the beast...
Really? That’s interesting. The R6 II goes to 30” in electronic or mechanical. Looks like the R6 MKI only does .5”. That could probably be a firmware fix on canon’s end, since the sensor readout shouldn’t be a bottleneck like on the R6, but they will probably hold it for the MKII version.
I addition to the limit of 0.5 seconds, in electric shutter mode, files are only captured in 12 bit. You have to use the other 2 shutter modes to capture 14 bit files.
Yeah a lot of mirrorless cameras limited the low end shutter speed on electronic shutter. Gotta use mechanical shutter. 😊
Yep. This is it. Go electronic first curtain if you need longer exposures. Also… electronic shutter only gives you 12bit raw files, vs elec 1st curtain and mechanical are proper 14bit raw files.
That's interesting. I predominantly use ES on my X-T2 and switch only to mechanical shutter where circumstances dictate it (flash sync, rolling shutter problems etc). I wonder if there's a trade off in resolution for this strategy?
5:33 e-shutter has lowest speed of 0.5sec, switch to mechanical
Did you read my Ebook yet: www.fototripper.com/chasing-awe-ebook/
good of Ben and Chris being great sports 😂😂 all that Camera testosterone very funny. Great scenery and Vlog Gavin
Excellent video! There’s no better way to learn than when you’re having fun and not taking yourself too seriously🤣
If Chris has focus bracketing turned on, that might be why the R5 won't let him set an shutter speed longer than 1/2 second. Either that or he's using electronic shutter. If he switches to mechanical shutter or electronic first curtain shutter he'll be fine up to 30 seconds or use bulb mode for exposures longer than 30 seconds. (The R5 has a timer that can be set for bulb mode.)
😊 Gavin, no need to be jealous at 17:06, just pick an a7R5 and you get a do it all screen plus you still can use all your Sony lenses 🥳
The out-takes are back!! Excellent.
This was so fun! What a great group together.
If you want to get the shutter speed underneath half a second then change to mechanical shutter and not electronic shutter on the Canon R5
Electronic shutter will not go below half a second. Mechanical shutter will. Need to change the camera shutter mode in the Red menu, tab 6.
Electronic 1st-curtain will also work.
Your R5 is set to Electronic Shutter. Change your shutter to 2nd Curtain Mechanical and get upt to 30 sec.
I just love these videos. Real people being themselves
Loving that spot with the waterfalls. Any waterfalls really. Hell, I get all teary-eyed when I turn in the faucet. Lol. (No waterfalls here)
Fun video. Thanks!
Ben fits perfectly into Gavin's world of awkwardness in nature. He went to the wood with office clothes.
Interesting about the R5 long exposure limit, thanks for the information everyone.
Great video Gavin and nice to see everyone contributing to the fun.
Composition tips will come in handy 😊
Great fun group - still astounds me that Gavin doesn’t have 5 million followers… so much work goes into this , always entertaining ( naturally too ,
Not forced ) and great teaching moments .
1) R5 slow shutter issue answered many times - get it to mechanical or first curtain
2) Chris - get an L-bracket and stop hanging your vertices off the ball head and changing the parallax (?) on panoramic shots and weight shift . I have two Three Legged Thing L brackets for my R/R5/R7 and the RRS one for my R3 .
Gavin - keep it up - love the collection of characters - you found Ben from New Jersey who shoots Leica ! - now you just need to find a Pentax K1 shooter .
Awesomeness exemplified and here’s to more great fun .
One Tampax shooter coming up.
the funniest youtube channel i know. that makes you want more landscape photography, hopefully it's just as funny! greetings from Germany
Brilliant entertainment. Chris and Ben were great companions!
The peak of that rock at the gypsum is my favorite angle at that location
Unnatural just how much I enjoy your videos; thanks as always for sharing your adventures and silliness!
Looks like great craic was had by all! Insane balance skills to boot !
Really enjoyed this one Gavin 👍🏼 Brilliantly funny and Ben deffo owes you £20 for that Drone Sequence 😂
Not sure about that New Brunswick rift raft!
hehehe
Hey now! 😂📸
You are the king of camera comedy Gavin! Love your work 😂
you have to go into mechanical shutter to get longer shutter speeds
Way go to guys! Laughing, gear, photos, & memories.
Love it times a million.
Keep up the great content.
Thank you. 👍👏
Always look forward to your episodes, and this one certainly didn’t disappoint. Your suggestions on shot composition was really interesting and helpful. Roll on the next one. Nice one Gavin.
That was awesome. I would go to Amanda's workshop any day.
In order to go below .5 second electronic shutter speed on the R5 you have to upgrade it to the new R5 mark2 when it comes out 😂 or go into mechanical
Great video as always Gavin!
mechanical shutter has the same limit.
You have to use bulb mode
Great video. Thank you for the laughs.
Great content as always, thank you all.
I just love all the laughter .. 😊 you guys are fun!
Having a great time with a group of like minded photographers. Very funny stuff.
Great video again Gavin....the a7iv has that articulated screen.....just as well for me at 6'3" tall when tying to get low 😊
Gavin, always enjoy your VLOGS good sir. Great tips, great shots and entertaining.
This vid was brilliant I smiled and laughed the whole time and learnt some thing as well. Once again thanks very much
Nothing beats my Polaroid S30 !
My friends at the retirement home just love your show Gavin.
Ha ha this was great, what a fun day! Leica subscribe! The bloopers…😂 looking forward to next weeks video! Thanks for the test intro, lol. 😎📸👊🏻
I like these types of videos where you are coaching an actual person. You should do more.
"Actual person" - I don't know if I'd go that far, although it'd look nice on a t-shirt.
@@benruset heheheh
this is hilarious. I nearly spat out my coffee after that needle scratch when he said Leica
Never miss a video. Always great fun, while still able to learn. 😊
You are the best and inimitable. I really enjoy your videos and your jokes.
Love this episode… great job everyone
electronic shutter ( focus stacking ) -> max 0.5 seconds -> go to mechanical or 2nd curtain ( unfortunately no automagic focus stacking)
Exactly right, 0.5 sec max in electronic shutter on the R5. It also won't do exposure bracketing in electronic shutter mode. Neither are issues with my R7, so hopefully the R52 will remove those shortcomings as well!
@@wanderland_xyz My R6 is the same as the R5 as far as electronic shutter.
Sony does do that Gavin. The A7RV does that.
Great episode. I leica’d it a lot. Yeah flippy screens are for plebs. True artists bend the neck. No pain no gain.
What a great video. And such a fun time ending with a beautiful picture can’t wait to see more of the three stooges and the lady.
one of the most entertaining episodes. loved it. Leica n subscribed!
Lots of fun! Damn, you’re spoiled for incredible scenery, there. Even a Leica shooter can get a few good shots of a place like that.
switch to mechanical shutter for longer exposures. Awesome vid, always love when everyone plays along!
Or use electronic first shutter. It's just as quiet and can take long exposures. It also eliminates the vibration of the mechanical shutter, and unlike the electronic shutter it takes 14-bit images, not 12 bit! I really haven't found any benefit to using the mechanical shutter for landscape photography.
You made the Leica and subscribe joke twice, and I laughed both times.
Great video! Beautiful area!
Great video .
So much fun and shenanigans love it .
The electronic shutter won't do long exposures. Just switch to mechanical shutter.
Love Gavin's Golden Nugget Comp tips! Great video....
Great video Gavin, you seemed a lot more relaxed in this one,great locations and not a bad image to from the Hasselblad, great job and thanks for sharing.
‘First comes the flippy screen, then comes the AI sky replacement’ 😆
Great video. Great to hear a Huddersfield accent! Lowerhouses Lane myself! Have an r5 myself a and can't understand why can't adjust shutter speed to +30s etc
Thanks Gavin! You just saved me a lot of money. Now I know my Fuji can take as good a shot as a Hasselblad. No need to upgrade!!
He’s probably in electronic shutter mode. Also if you use electronic shutter you lower your bit depth. I only use electronic shutter if I want the 20 fps or I need to be silent.
Another great video! every time I learn something! Thank you
R5's unite !! (& Lee Filters) :)
Ben would have been ok with Leica Q3 as it has a tilting rear screen
Thanks for another fun filled 20 minutes!
You guys had fun time with photography. I love that.
Let’s goooooo!!!!!!
Yep, like several others have said. Change your shutter mode to mechanical or 1st curtain, and you'll be good to go 👍
Fantastic video, it looks like you had a good laugh! 👍
The final image turned out really wonderful!
Top shelf great video, some great country there
I, too, have a Leica SL2. Not only are the images fabulous, I can rhyme the name! I admit I suffer from severe FSE (flippy screen envy). I'd almost consider a Sony, except I have XXL hands. But then there's Hasselblad! Hmmmm... Great time gentlemen!
Hi Gavin,
you need the Sony A7R5. complete with flippy screen and mega EVF. 😀
I support that.
Shoot Mechanical Shutter not electronic on the R5 and you'll get up to 30 secs, shoot BULB with longer exposures but there is no cable release socket, use your phone and the Canon Connect app. Uncle Grumpy may help you out he is a tech ..... no just JoKiNg!!!!
@@19Photographer76 true but he has an R5 :D
Great video, throughly enjoyed it.
I'm going to say this because I know I'm not the only one thinking it. Gavin you deserve your own netflix special.
As always, entertaining and always looking forward to tips and bloopers. Will have to come out from Manitoba maybe next late spring or summer just for the experience and some good tips!
Thank you, just wonderful 🙂
Very enjoyable! Looks like Ben has been watching Mr. Heaton too: The same tripod and head I believe. Beautiful shot with the Hasselblad. Why no Amanda images?
Indeed - I bought an Acratech head because Thomas uses one. I've not gone to an ifootage tripod yet because the old Gitzo still works just fine.
I was shooting Fuji GFX for a while and wanted to find something that would be super sturdy with longer lenses, especially with the adapted Pentax 67 glass I was using since the GFX system is a bit lacking in that department. I didn't want to reinvent the wheel and I knew that this setup worked well for him, plus I prefer flippy lock tripods.
@5:06 The Canon R5 arbitrarily limits the electronic shutter to 0.5s. It gets right in the way of focus-stacking, amongst other things. Either use manual shutter and forego the fancy drive-modes, or... as I did, send it back.
Canon R5 is the BEAST! Sony does not even come close, bro!
Another small issue with R5 ES is that the raw file is 12 bits only, which is not really good for landscape shots. As I shoot mostly wildlife with my R5, I use the ES mode extensively, but I wouldn't do it for landscape captures. When I happen to have only my canon with me during a landscape opportunity, I always switch to other shutter mode to gain additional 2 bits.
Yes, it is very annoying that the user cannot control the shutter mode for focus stacking. Especially for product photographers using flashes it renders the camera useless.
@@tamasnemeth2161 Oh dear. I wasn't aware that the bit-depth varied with shutter type; however I do know that it drops from 13 to 12-bit in H+ burst mode.
I got the R5 on the assumption that it was their answer to the A7r3 (FF, 42-45MP). Not when Canon can't maintain full sensor-readout in burst mode, it isn't...
@@tamasnemeth2161 Agreed it'll be a pain for product photography. It's also a pain for landscape - sometimes I might want to combine a 6-stop ND for long exposure with a focus-stack for DoF. Oh, and it leaves the focus beyond infinity at the end of a stack rather than resetting to where it started, but I digress...
Suffice it to say I'm not kidding when I say I put money where mouth/keyboard is and rejected the R5 ASAP.
Fun video as always, it's too bad people cannot enjoy the hikes & views without leaving their mark & trash behind 😢
Amen
Agreed!
Gavin, just wondering what's going on with the renos of the church?
It's currently on pause due to financial embarrassment.
focus stacking on R5 limits the shutter to 0.5 sec. turn it off and I'll be fine to go further
pin that comment gav
@marcgomes7126 is correct. Focus stacking in camera limits shutter.
There is no such setting in the R5 as focus stacking.
There is however a setting called focus bracketing.
I can say categorically having it turned off does not fix the 1/2 second exposure limiter in normal operational modes.
To get longer exposures you must go to bulb mode and set your your exposure from there.
@tonyfluertynaturephotograp5272 you are correct. When you enable focus bracketing it switched to electronic shutter and the .5 second.
@@brianrose2342 aye , the only way to get slower than half a second is to shift to bulb mode.
You cant go slower than half a second in any mode.
If you want to drag the shutter you have to be in bulb mode full stop
I don't know why cannon did this, its a pain in the bum.
😂😂😂...brilliant video, it cracked me up.
Lovely photos as always Gavin.
Lovely scenery though
Great video! Put a big smile on my face :) I haven't checked this myself, but I heard that the R5 loses two stops of dynamic range when in silent mode. I still love that camera though :)
I have a question for Amanda…. Is it an ego boot for Gavin when everyone was named on their videos as Ben, Chris and Jason but it’s “FotoTripper Mr GAVIN HARDCASTLE himself”?…lol At least you got a “Miss Amanda”… Behind every married male Photographer is an awesome Lady that allows them the time and money for their passion! Thank yous for the great videos!
Oh Gavin Gavin Gavin, if you like the tilty flippy screen on the Canon R5..... the Sony a7RV is going to blow your tiny little mind...
And the automatic focus stacking.
great stuff you guys, ps i liked the leica guys pic of the tree reaching down, best one yet 2:35
I saw that fly buzzing around Gavin and my first reaction would be to take a swing at it….. but not in the presence of the Hasselblad!
“I’m sorry…” - lmao 😂
I believe the half second limit is because you are using electronic shutter. I seem to recall my mate mentioning this on the weekend when we were shooting birds.
Yup, that's it. In electronic shutter mode, the slowest available speed is 0.5 seconds.
@@OldGirlPhotography same 30 second limit for ist curtain and mechanical mades as well
Great video Gavin
Hilarious. Great vid G man.
My a7iv have a flip out screen that also rotat (so it's not only Canon).
I think I'll stick to my old Nikon D300s 😁
Great video, and those snacks looked good too :)
I feel out of place with my pin hole analog camera. I made it myself out of a cardboard box which cost me nothing. How could I possibly attend one of your training sessions when so ill equipped?
As long as you've got a sturdy tripod...
Awesome content Gavin... Always my first Sunday UA-cam search.
By way of an enquiry... at around the 14:30min mark (Ben's compositional/light woes)... I know it would be a pain, but could he not merely fix his tripod, taking a couple of notes with each turn made for each separate pano shot (firstly with the background lit)... then repeat approximately the exact same shots with the rock in the foreground, lit or shadowed (as and when it looks better during the day), then combine them all together later on in post?
I know the post processing might ruin the artistic side for a talented true e-Leicist (kidding), but is there a reason why someone would not do that, barring the faff?
When's Hardcastle Towers returning?
Kind regards and much respect.