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Yes, it is a weird idea! Filling in the Shopsmith Floating Table "Abyss"
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- Опубліковано 29 січ 2023
- ✅ SHOP NOTES: In a recent video we discussed using the Floating Tables that are standard on the Shopsmith Mark V model 510, 520 and the Mark 7 for support to the rear of the main table, but there was one big problem: the large gat between the floating tables directly behind the main table. This video covers a simple mod for adding this handy support table to your shop. I'll have more to share in the follow-up Q&A, so be sure to join in the conversation below. If you missed the first video, catch it here: • Maximizing Your Shopsm...
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I have no choice! I will need to replicate this excellent idea without any modifications. I've had my 510 since the mid 80's and never cease to be amazed. Your videos are always the first to be viewed. Thanks, from Mechanicsville Virginia.
Awesome idea addition to the floating table. 13:05
Good video. Thank you. This is why I am one of your 1,000 subscribers.
I can see adding a router adapter plate to that extension table. One that has a crank for raising and lowering the router.
Instead of using wooden dowels that might wear out, I’ll try using metal ones instead.
That’s always an option.
Thanks for sharing this, Scott. It is amazing to me the capability of the Shopsmith with your clever thinking.
Thank you Mark.
Excellent!! That makes for a really neat outfeed table. Now all that is needed is to get rid of that support leg by tyIng it to the outfeed side table leg rather than using the telescopic leg. Doing that would allow the table change to occur when the depth of cut is changed. That is to say - all table move up and down and tilt in unison.
Dusty, I’ve done that but wasn’t happy with the tendency for the travel tubes to rack and jamb against the pitons. I may be exaggerating the issue and I’m sure it could be improved by lightening the support table, but I just wasn’t happy with it. Do you use that approach? Scott
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Yes, Scott. I do use that approach.. I began concept testing with a much heavier table than I use now. My current (and probably last) table version is made with a good grade of 1/2" plywood reinforced across the infeed edge to stiffening and to provide a thicker surface to attach the brackets to. You can see in one of the photo images that the brackets are major over kill. They were (and still can be) used with the Shopsmith Extension Table Brackets (555997)..
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Yes I do on a regular basis. My table is as light weight as I could make it (1/2' Baltic Birch Plywood). Brackets accommodate the Shopsmith Extension Brackets though I hardly ever use them. Tried posting a photo image - no go.. The history of concept is docvumented on a SS site.
@@dustywoodworker5305 not to be a pain - but could you give a link to that SS thread? Thanks
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Good video. Thank for the idea.
Thanks Scott
My pleasure.
I like it. If I knew this earlier I’d most likely wouldn’t have bought all of this.
I have the 2 sets table extension brackets, 2 sets of five ft. tubes, 12 short tubes, 3 sets legs, 10 floating, 3 extension, and 3 main tables. Oh ya almost forgot that I still have the pro fence router table as well. So I can build some table layouts.
Thanks for sharing Scott.
Scott, I bought my Mark V in the early '80's while stationed in New Orleans while in the Military. It has traveled the country with me through many moves during a Military career, civilian career and retirement. Other life obligations and distractions have most ofthen prevented my realizing anywhere near full use of my shopsmith. I subsequently acquired the additional hardware to upgrade to a Mk v 510, but still haven;t gotten much use. None-the-less, I am finding your you-tube channel chock full of fascinating tips and guideance for helping anyone get more out of the Shopsmith platform. Thanks for great content.
Thanks for your kind words of encouragement. Sounds like you are living the same vagabond life I grew up with. Hopefully you’ll find a way to carve shone shop time out of your busy schedule. I suggest commuting to making something for someone.
What a pretty cool idea! Keep sharing your insights.
Thank you! Will do!
Great idea
Watching you do the horizontal boring was worth the entire video. I've had so much trouble with the main table flexing as pressure is applied to the quill. Seeing how you support the table was YUGE. 👍
Glad you got that from it. I did a video on that topic: ua-cam.com/video/MCOs47th1lo/v-deo.html
Scott, brilliant as always. I’m recovering from eye surgery, so I’m going to use this time to rewatch your excellent videos. Thanks again. 5:07
Thanks, Doug. So happy to hear you are on the mend.
yet another great video. I love your approach and how you use the Shopsmith to do all kinds of things!
Another good video. I really enjoy listening to people talk that are experts in there field and you obviously are
Thanks, Chris. I am a little obsessed!
@@MyGrowthRings I would say dedicated, has a better ring to it. Lol
I have the Shopsmith Floating Table Brackets, that setup work great for ripping stock. I see many options with your floating table setup.
Ingenious idea. It is a great way to make a rear support table. I upgraded my Mark V model 500 to a model 520 around 2007. That left me with the Model 500 table, carriage and rip fence that I have been using as my rear support table. That allowed me to easily raise, lower and tilt the 500 Table as needed. I have also used the new extension table brackets. They do work well and are easy to use and does allow the use of the rip fence. However, your design gives a much larger surface.
Excellent idea, Scott. Next time I need an extension table I will definitely be doing this. Thanks so much for sharing this with us.
Sounds like a plan.
Scott, this is a great idea. I bought a Mark 5 in 1983 and have over the years updated it to a Mark 520, and the new Power Head ( did that myself, because I'm frugal). Have used it tons, even built my airplane with it. (another story). I have always struggled with the shortness of the outfeed side however. I have the extension tables but always found them fiddly and time consuming, to set up and take down. I really like your filler piece, and will try bolting it on to my extension tables. What i see as a great advantage is folding the back leg to store it right on the saw. Thanks for the great ideas. Keep up the good work.
Another winner! Will be doing that to my older mk5. On my 520 I got ....nubbins. that sounds so bad. You you mentioned it briefly but could you demonstrate on a 520? Thanks again Scott
Great follow up on this subject. When you started talking about making holes in the floating table to match the main table I thought you might use doweling points to mark the holes since that was mentioned when we discussed joining methods at the last board meeting. I may have missed it but you didn't mention that the the sides of the floating table are not perpendicular to the top. This shouldn't matter the way you drill the holes with the floating table upside down on the main table but it could be a problem maintaining alignment if those holes are drilled by hand or in vertical mode. The holes must be drilled parallel to the table top, not perpendicular to the table sides.
That’s a very good point Ed, and no I didn’t mention it. Thanks for bringing it up. Scott.
Great follow and really cool idea. Ever time i resolve to clear out all my 510 extras ( since ive gone to 520) you give me reason to hold onto them!
Excellent video. I know it’s only Aluminum, but a few drops of oil will help you save drill bits.
very nice, thanks. I got some tips that were unexpected, such as using the sacrificial fence in that particular way to get the flush cut. Also learn something from you Scott.
I have not used it in along time but I use to have a rear support very similar this that I had usedb in between my floating tables. But I did something different and down right genus shop smith should of done. The rear legs on the main table I found a piece of pipe that just fit inside it and somewhat snug. You can even use a dowel rod. I drilled a small 3/16 hole and put a piece of welding rod through it like a pin making the rear table leg about 4 to 6 inches longer than factory for the main table.( of course it has not got the gears to raise and lower the table but still. it gives the perfect place to then make and attach a leg that clips to the piece you added and makes a 45 degree support to hold the rear table folded out you just made. Now when you adjust the table height it will go up and down with it as it is supported to the same rear leg to the main table. Then simply remove the 45 support and the work table hangs off the back to store against a wall. If you do not follow the Idea well enough let me now I might be able to take a pic. But the entire Idea is it is a extension table That moves with the main table.
I’ve done something similar, but didn’t like the additional weight that was cantilevered on the table. Glad it works for you though.
Neat idea and solution for those who have the "newer" tables. I am using a modified B&D Workmate for the outfeed and another for an infeed table on those rare occasions that I use the Shopsmith for ripping or panel cutting. Oh, a 1982 Mk V 500 and a 1958 Mk V Greenie.
I'm working on a remodel for church and need an out feed thank you
That’s awesome and you are welcome.
Thanks Scott… I like it. It’s a great example of ‘run what you brung, injunearing’.
I experienced dissatisfaction with outfeed roller stands. Their rollers tend to pull your work off line, unless they are set exactly perpendicular to the blade.
Next, I bought a Rigid Flip Stop work stand to support outfeed work. It has a flat plastic surface that is slick, solid and can be moved as close or far away as I like. Which is invaluable for long rips.
But, you have me thinking…. I’m gonna take a look at my 520 to see if it can be adapted. Thanx bud.
Thanks Scott!
Love it! Thanks for sharing this idea and video.
Now this I can use A lot
Great video! Quite ingenious! Your shop made outfeed table is very similar to Shopsmith's version, but much less expensive. Unfortunately, both of your floating tables are in use whenever you need the out feed; so extra floating tables would be very handy.
I used the same principle in an attempt to fill in the gap between the 500 table and the extension table with an extra table top. Also the outfeed table Shopsmith used to sell for the 500 model required drilling holes in the sides of main table to attach the support for the outfield table. It works well, very similar to your set up. I'll send some pictures to your private email which you can share if you desire. jim
Thank you for sharing this. I might have to do this to mine. I use my work table for outfeed, but it would be nice to be able to move either one to a different location and still have an outfeed table.
It works really well. I should have shown it with the main table in the carriage so it wasn’t swinging about! It’s actually quite solid. Scott
@MyGrowthRings I like that setup better than what I'm doing. My table is on rollers, and when I use my planer, I have to move my table over to clear the saw. It's just kind of a pain when you forget to move it and your stock hits the main table of the saw. Besides, I could butt my work table up to the outfeed of the saw, and that would extend my work area for long projects.
Great idea, I will make that board and attach a router under the board.
That should work quite well.
A couple of videos ago (I think), you had mentioned add -ons you would like to see Shopmith offer again. I would like to see a re-releade of the Incra bandsaw fence package which was offered a few years ago.
I wonder how different that is from the Kreg bandsaw fence?
I think there was an adjuster (a micro-adjuster?), and the fence appeared to be easier to adjust than the Shopsmith fence. I do remember from the Shopsmith advertisement that you had to have the aluminum bandsaw table to make the system work.
Great idea BUT I went a little easier way. I bought a roller stand that I can use on other machines as well.
Much lower cost than the Shopsmith Extension Table Brackets. Plus your table provides a much larger surface.
Those indexing nubbins prevent the tables from closely abutting without a gap. Ive heard some people file them away. Have they eliminated those in the latest or is that latest evolution.
No, they still have them on new units.
Will you have time or in a video show use how to install. The Measuring device on the mark 510 and 520
Hey William. Which measuring device?
@My Growth Rings that one that goes on to the mean table for the rip fences. Like most table saw have. If you can answer way shopsmith does not include this when buy a shopsmith.
@@willimanfreeman23 Got ya. There isn’t one for the 510 and I’m so used to not using one that so never bothered to get one for my 520. The biggest issue is that the blade doesn’t always come up through the table insert at the same spot, so you’re constantly having to re-zero the gauge.
Another way, always another way.
You aren’t wrong! There are several more ways to skin this cat.
I just bought a $25.00 ? roller stand fo the outtake side.
That could work. My issue is that they can be pushed over and they don’t tilt with the table.
Have a question Scott. When reinstalling the quill, I let it slip back in. It’s just hard, causing the miter sat on the quill depth gauge to move out of position.
I remove the pinion gear assembly and noticed the Woodruff key is gone but in the video you mentioned that’s not uncommon.
Put it back together seems to work fine. Should I be concerned without the Woodruff pin?
Thanks as usual. Ted.
Yes, you do what the woodruff key in place or there will be times where it will slip when you expected it to be locked, such as when sawing.
Hey Mark, thank you I watch the video and I looked inside the keys open everything back up. This one did not have the key. Just another? for me to ponder. So I took a 3/8 thick washer and made one. Fits perfect.
I have no idea what size key it was but I would’ve had to order a box of 200 to get one I guess so I decided to spend two hours my time really worth only $.10 an hour or so.
Anyway, thanks again Mark enjoy your videos. They’re really great and I so appreciate your advice.
One more question please.
Mine has two of the cup washers. Is that right? The video unit had one.
Ted.
@@choochoo3985 Glad to hear it. Yes, some of them do have two cupped washers. that's just something to do with tolerances. Scott
Good morning Scott. I have some questions regarding some equipment I’ve recently purchased specifically the belt sander, planer, bandsaw and power station. Is it possible to have a direct personal conversation with you, and if so how would I reach you? Thank you Mike
Mike, email is best. Shoot me a message at ScottMarkwood(at)gmail(dot)com
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