Hi @@mattmakes6065 I tried adjusting the riving knife but loosening the spindle knob exposes the quill bearing and the shaft does not remain tight (moves horizontally).
That's no good! Well I was recently informed that adjusting that collar isn't the best way to adjust the riving knife. There's actually a stop screw on the blade guard that you can adjust in or out. It'll hit that collar and set the position. Also, I think there should be a spring clip in the headstock that should prevent the quill from coming out like that.
@@mattmakes6065 yes it does have a clip. The way shown by Shopsmith is to use the bottom screw. Kind of works so I thought this is the way I may have missed. Thanks it clears my doubt. I reverted my change.
Nice video. Acquired a 500 from 1985 as best I could tell, pre 510. I need to clean her up and see what I don’t have, then look at upgrading, those tables look like a nice upgrade!
Awesome! Fyi, another user I respect informed me that the riving knife/saw blade alignment isn't accomplished with that stop collar. It is accomplished by adjusting a screw on the blade guard in or out. Take it or leave it. Enjoy!!
Can a person just collect a 510 table setup and put it on a 500? I acquired a 500 over the weekend and just started learning about it. I am fairly certain it’s incomplete as it has no tailstock or disc sander.
Sure. The beauty of the shopsmith is that anything they made or currently make works on anything they made or currently make. I bought mine as a 500 from the 1960s and converted it to a 510, which didn't come out for a long time after mine was made.
Great video and couldn’t have come at a more perfect time. Just bought a mark v 2 days ago. It has the same main table and 3 other extension tables. I’m in the process of cleaning and oiling her up. Tables needed a lot of TLC because it has sat for many years. Thanks for your time and please keep the vids coming
Yeah, what's with the 3 tables? I got one used about the same time and IT had 3 extension tables, 8 support rods, and three support legs, with fittings. Was it a "special" at some point?
Nicely done. BTW, the collar to the left of the arbor isn’t designed for alignment of the blade to the riving knife. That adjustment is made on the lower guard by adjusting a set screw that is closest to the quill. You’ll have to remove the guard to see it.
It also helps to install the wider rubber spacer on a way tube. It spaces the carriage the correct amount from the headstock. That spacer makes it so much easier to get the blade through the blade insert on the table when setting up your table saw. The spacer is available from Shopsmith, and works on both the 510 & 520 table systems.
On the back face of the lower guard (where it meets the head stock,) there's a set screw. You should use this to adjust the guard in and out to align the riving knife to the blade, so the blade can be fully seated on the shaft. It's a better, safer method than moving the blade on the shaft to align it to the riving knife.
There are holes in the the miter gauge with set screws. Run a steel rod through the gauge and tighten it down just touching the saw, move it to the other end of the blade and a just it appropriately. The holes are also great for repeat cross cut lengths. Yes Scott is a great resource. You didn’t mention waxing all surfaces where movement is involved. Critical for smooth use.
Looks like a ton of work, not too familiar with Shop Smith, I do remember seeing all kinds of ads for them when I was younger. They were a big investment even back then. Saw a lot of TV Ads for them as well. I stumbled across the upgrade on Lowe's web site and it was $1600.00! So I hope when completed it was well worth the costs plus this must have taken a lot of time. Thanks for sharing. Does appear it needs some serious dust collection added.😃
Dust collection is a struggle with everything in my shop. That Lowe's upgrade is too rich for me at the moment. All in, I've got my Shopsmith in the state it is now for that same Lowe's price.
Congrats! I love my 510. Looks like you got a nice clean set of tables. One thing you may want to look into is that the change from the 500 to 510 tables came with a new set of arbors for the blades and sanding disc. The arbors are slightly longer. This will eliminate the need to move the arbor left and right while installing. Since the set screw surface on the arbor is tapper, if the arbor does not seat fully, the arbor can move inward on you which has the effect of loosening the set screw.
BTW - I posted a link to this video over on the Facebook Shopsmith Owners Group. I would think the crowd over there should be pretty interested in your videos.
Yeah, I just bought a new (to me) 510 and discovered the arbor issue pretty quickly. Unfortunately, I already had about 4 arbors for the 500. Oh well, new owner will get them, I guess, since they're of no use to me now. Fortunately, the arbor on my old-ish (pre-carbide) Shopsmith dado set seems to be long enough.I'm guessing I bought it in the mid-80s, so post-510 introduction, when they'd made the change.
Maybe I missed it. I didn't see the rubber bumper/spacer between the carriage and headstock before or after the upgrade. I think this is essential for proper spacing.
I came across your video - today. You really are missing an important if not the important piece - the 510/520 carriage. I don’t know how your able to use the 510/520 table without it. I skimmed so I may have missed that section - the carriage? Anyway you’ll really enjoy the 520 rails and fence. Much, much improved. The rails attach easily to the 510 fence..
Thanks for this video. I too am planning to make the upgrade soon. BTW, did you buy the "Greenie" paint from Shopsmith? If not would you share the brand and color/code number of the paint.
Matt I am enjoying your video’s, have a question on your buffing station, what did you use for the shaft on that mini lathe? Really appreciate your explanation on this shopsmith.
I'm not nearly ambitious enough to find or make something to use myself. I got that set up on Amazon. Here's the link for the one I bought, but there are other options. Thanks for watching my stuff! I appreciate it! PSI Woodworking LBUFFSYS 3-Step Lathe Buffing System www.amazon.com/dp/B004CVJBYE/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_fabc_5MK333BTNPNPABP7B5PB
You put some cash into this machine. Also a lot detailed restoration. I’m assuming cost were offset selling your previous equipment. Regardless great job.
There was definitely some offset. But I figure I got the machine at less than half the price of new, and have more space. And, all in, I'm still under the price of a good quality table saw alone. I call it a win.
@@mattmakes6065 Understandable, as video recording and editing is a time sink. I make quick and low quality videos, but I have seven project I haven't documented yet.
I've had a 510 since new in '94 - you'll like that bigger table
Oh I'm loving the bigger table. The only regret I have is that a 520 upgrade came up on eBay for the same price as my 510 a week later!
Thank you….I had no clue how far out of alinement my conversation to 510 was….wow I’m in business now!
Always love to watch Shopsmith videos, get to learn something new. Thank you.
Thank you for watching!
Hi @@mattmakes6065 I tried adjusting the riving knife but loosening the spindle knob exposes the quill bearing and the shaft does not remain tight (moves horizontally).
That's no good! Well I was recently informed that adjusting that collar isn't the best way to adjust the riving knife. There's actually a stop screw on the blade guard that you can adjust in or out. It'll hit that collar and set the position.
Also, I think there should be a spring clip in the headstock that should prevent the quill from coming out like that.
@@mattmakes6065 yes it does have a clip. The way shown by Shopsmith is to use the bottom screw. Kind of works so I thought this is the way I may have missed. Thanks it clears my doubt. I reverted my change.
Nice job good info. You will love the larger table, dust collection, better fences. Looking forward to you channel
Thank you sir!
Beautiful Machine! It looks like New and I bet it operates like one too!
Thanks! It runs great!!
Nice video. Acquired a 500 from 1985 as best I could tell, pre 510. I need to clean her up and see what I don’t have, then look at upgrading, those tables look like a nice upgrade!
The 510 or 520 upgrade is so worth it! Keep your eye on eBay for a good deal
I feel like I could almost be a sales person for the company. Very detailed and I know you're excited.
If I had a company, I'd gladly take you as a sales associate!
Awesome series. What a sweet machine ❤
Thank you for sharing this video. I am going to convert my Mark V 500 to a 510 this weekend and will follow all the great tips you provided.
Awesome! Fyi, another user I respect informed me that the riving knife/saw blade alignment isn't accomplished with that stop collar. It is accomplished by adjusting a screw on the blade guard in or out. Take it or leave it. Enjoy!!
Can a person just collect a 510 table setup and put it on a 500? I acquired a 500 over the weekend and just started learning about it. I am fairly certain it’s incomplete as it has no tailstock or disc sander.
Sure. The beauty of the shopsmith is that anything they made or currently make works on anything they made or currently make. I bought mine as a 500 from the 1960s and converted it to a 510, which didn't come out for a long time after mine was made.
Great video and couldn’t have come at a more perfect time. Just bought a mark v 2 days ago. It has the same main table and 3 other extension tables. I’m in the process of cleaning and oiling her up. Tables needed a lot of TLC because it has sat for many years. Thanks for your time and please keep the vids coming
I'll do what I can! Thanks for watching and I hope you make some comm stuff with yours!
Yeah, what's with the 3 tables? I got one used about the same time and IT had 3 extension tables, 8 support rods, and three support legs, with fittings. Was it a "special" at some point?
Nicely done. BTW, the collar to the left of the arbor isn’t designed for alignment of the blade to the riving knife. That adjustment is made on the lower guard by adjusting a set screw that is closest to the quill. You’ll have to remove the guard to see it.
Thanks for the clarification. What is the purpose of the collar adjustment?
@@mattmakes6065 Its not an adjustment. It should be kept tight against the bearing to eliminate end play in the quill shaft.
Thank you, sir!
@@mattmakes6065 You are welcome.
It also helps to install the wider rubber spacer on a way tube. It spaces the carriage the correct amount from the headstock. That spacer makes it so much easier to get the blade through the blade insert on the table when setting up your table saw. The spacer is available from Shopsmith, and works on both the 510 & 520 table systems.
On the back face of the lower guard (where it meets the head stock,) there's a set screw. You should use this to adjust the guard in and out to align the riving knife to the blade, so the blade can be fully seated on the shaft. It's a better, safer method than moving the blade on the shaft to align it to the riving knife.
There are holes in the the miter gauge with set screws. Run a steel rod through the gauge and tighten it down just touching the saw, move it to the other end of the blade and a just it appropriately. The holes are also great for repeat cross cut lengths. Yes Scott is a great resource. You didn’t mention waxing all surfaces where movement is involved. Critical for smooth use.
Thanks! You're right, I didn't mention it, but I did put some paste wax to use!
Looks like a ton of work, not too familiar with Shop Smith, I do remember seeing all kinds of ads for them when I was younger. They were a big investment even back then. Saw a lot of TV Ads for them as well. I stumbled across the upgrade on Lowe's web site and it was $1600.00! So I hope when completed it was well worth the costs plus this must have taken a lot of time. Thanks for sharing. Does appear it needs some serious dust collection added.😃
Dust collection is a struggle with everything in my shop. That Lowe's upgrade is too rich for me at the moment. All in, I've got my Shopsmith in the state it is now for that same Lowe's price.
Congrats! I love my 510. Looks like you got a nice clean set of tables.
One thing you may want to look into is that the change from the 500 to 510 tables came with a new set of arbors for the blades and sanding disc. The arbors are slightly longer. This will eliminate the need to move the arbor left and right while installing. Since the set screw surface on the arbor is tapper, if the arbor does not seat fully, the arbor can move inward on you which has the effect of loosening the set screw.
Already adjusted for that. Thanks!
@@mattmakes6065 great!
BTW - I posted a link to this video over on the Facebook Shopsmith Owners Group. I would think the crowd over there should be pretty interested in your videos.
That is awesome!! I really appreciate that!!!
Yeah, I just bought a new (to me) 510 and discovered the arbor issue pretty quickly. Unfortunately, I already had about 4 arbors for the 500. Oh well, new owner will get them, I guess, since they're of no use to me now. Fortunately, the arbor on my old-ish (pre-carbide) Shopsmith dado set seems to be long enough.I'm guessing I bought it in the mid-80s, so post-510 introduction, when they'd made the change.
Thanks for this video. I have a 1982 500. Any ideas where I can locate a 510 conversion kit?
Maybe I missed it. I didn't see the rubber bumper/spacer between the carriage and headstock before or after the upgrade. I think this is essential for proper spacing.
Not essential, but really dang helpful. I don't have one yet. It's on my wish list. It's definitely a pain without it, but not impossible.
Nice job, but you should a line the the miter slot to the saw blade first, if not all the other adjustments will be off
Oh my garsh…😮so interesting
I came across your video - today. You really are missing an important if not the important piece - the 510/520 carriage.
I don’t know how your able to use the 510/520 table without it.
I skimmed so I may have missed that section - the carriage?
Anyway you’ll really enjoy the 520 rails and fence. Much, much improved. The rails attach easily to the 510 fence..
Not attach to the fence but the table(s). The 520 fence is much improved over the 510 version.
I have the 510 carriage. I must not have shown it too well in the video. I'd love to get a 520 upgrade. Someday I hope to.
@@mattmakes6065
The 510 - 520 use the identical carriage. Yer set!
What is the 520 upgrade and how does it differ from the 510? I have a 500 and am considering an upgrade
Thanks for this video. I too am planning to make the upgrade soon. BTW, did you buy the "Greenie" paint from Shopsmith? If not would you share the brand and color/code number of the paint.
I did buy it from shopsmith. I thought about matching it but decided to go with the original shopsmith colors in the end.
Matt I am enjoying your video’s, have a question on your buffing station, what did you use for the shaft on that mini lathe? Really appreciate your explanation on this shopsmith.
I'm not nearly ambitious enough to find or make something to use myself. I got that set up on Amazon. Here's the link for the one I bought, but there are other options. Thanks for watching my stuff! I appreciate it! PSI Woodworking LBUFFSYS 3-Step Lathe Buffing System www.amazon.com/dp/B004CVJBYE/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_fabc_5MK333BTNPNPABP7B5PB
Did you paint your new 510 parts to match your "Greenie"? BTW music is way too loud!
Not all of them. I painted the carriage and trim. I think the only thing I didn't paint was the gray side of the tables.
You put some cash into this machine. Also a lot detailed restoration. I’m assuming cost were offset selling your previous equipment. Regardless great job.
There was definitely some offset. But I figure I got the machine at less than half the price of new, and have more space. And, all in, I'm still under the price of a good quality table saw alone. I call it a win.
Nice job. But two years later and no update on the jointer.
You're not wrong. Making these videos was taking a lot of time that I unfortunately don't have anymore.
@@mattmakes6065 Understandable, as video recording and editing is a time sink. I make quick and low quality videos, but I have seven project I haven't documented yet.
Curious, what was the cost at the time of your upgrade?
The upgrade was off a guy on eBay. I think it was about $700?
How’s the jointer coming along
The jointer is done. Unfortunately I haven't gotten around to getting the video finished up yet. If there's enough interest I can finish it.
You could have more shop room if your scrapped that dusty car....lol
I know your. Mom she’s my teacher