Superman & Lois Works Mainly For This Reason
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Superman and Lois is what I've wanted a live action Superman adaption to be.
Hopeful, but not cheesy
Mature, but not gritty.
Tyler and Bitsie are killing it as Superman and Lois and if this season remains solid, then they could become my all time favourite Superman and Lois
100%
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I agree
It makes me so happy that the Superman and Lois showrunners seem to actually understand Superman.
Well, Geoff Johns has his hands on this series. I believe he was one of the developers. And he made stargirl, which is another awesome series.
They fired some weirdo writer who wants Martha and Jonathan (dad) Kent to be mixed race couple
You hit it on the nose, John. One of the greatest struggles that Superman faces is who gets to be saved since he can’t be everywhere at the same time. The choice that he makes can have dire consequences. This last episode was able to demonstrate that without saying it outright.
True fact this show can potentially be as great if not greater then smallville if writers don’t mess this up.
This could be Smallville season 30
Not like smallville is a high bar
@@ChefPleasure only the first 5 season!
@@StanvilleBrown Ehh the entire show was kinda bad
@@ChefPleasure the first 5 seasons was amazing. Like One tree Hill before it was better in High School! 😏
Snydercut is great, Superman and Lois is great. Life is good for DC fan.
Facts
The Snyder cut is such a gift and I'm not even finished it yet. Superman and Lois is amazing. So proud to be a DC fan.
I love this show and I am so happy they are doing my favorite Superman family justice.
I’m with you 100% John Campea. I was never a fan of the CW shows either, but they’re getting it right in every way with this show so far.
That Killgrave fight was more intense than anything in _MOS._
_Superman & Lois_ is pretty great in spite of the teen drama & I keep waiting for the show to regress into CW formula autopilot but the eps continue to impress as a solid drama.
Typical CW formula is the OG arrowverse shows, not the new ones: Stargirl, Superman and Lois and the upcoming Naiome. They realized that they had to evolve in this genre and their doing it. They will probably add more as time goes on
@@joshz2491 hey put black Lighting in that list
@@erosion271 no wonder girl was
When Clark told Jonathan that he has room to step up, you know he wanted to say fuck you dad. You took away the steps I took in Metropolis by moving us here.
Superman always holds back when he is in a fight because he does not want to hurt the person he wants to stop them. When a villain shows he can take that level of hits Superman turns up the strength and goes at them harder till they can’t
This show has been a pleasant surprise. The characters and stories are rich. They have a strong foundation to build an amazing long running show. I'm so happy that we actually have a good superman show. I hope it can fill that Smallville void while still creating it's own lane. ( No pun intended).
John nailed this segment I couldn’t agree more with his take on this show
Smallville was the entire 2000s decade.
I've watched every CW show, every epsiode since arrow, I've struggled through Batwoman and Supergirl, but watched everything I love the flash 7 seasons in, but superman & lois is the first CW show I've recommended to my friends and family after 9 years of watching the arrowverse though love and embarrassment of epsiodes and seasons, 3 epsiodes in this show is something special and recommended it to all my friends and family this show is special!
This is my favorite Superman show and favorite cast since Dean Cain and Terry Hatcher in Lois and Clark. It's so respectful to every previous version from George Reeves to Tom Welling to Henry Cavill, with Easter eggs all over. It understands so well that Clark's struggle has always been trying to balance the fact he's a demigod who feels responsible for the world because of his powers, with the fact that all he really wants is to have a normal life with his family and friends. This is the first time IMO since Lois and Clark or Smallville that they've just nailed stories around the premis that Clark is who he is, Superman is what he can do. My only fear now is that they're going to find a way to ruin it going forward.
When you see superman struggle berween being a dad and the greates heroe on earth makes me stop whinning about feeling overwhelmed by being a dad and my job. So if he can struggle its not bad that I can also(yes I know thats fiction but hey)
You nailed the explanation 100%. Supergirl disrespected superman in every appearance he had. I don’t think the writers knew how to write superman and this includes Cavill’s and rough version. But with superman and Lois they finally figured it out. I was amaze with s&l that I look forward to more episodes. There is so much they can explore and do with this show
You're right if u want to do Superman right u have to give him personal struggles, ones that he can't just punch away. Also this is a Superman story we've never seen before with him already a husband and father. Cause we've seen the beginning of Superman's career and the start of Lois and Clark relationship many, MANY times before so it's interesting to see what happens after that now.
this show is amazing. got me to download the CW lol, I hadn't watched that channel in years and now i'm tuning in every week.
Grim was an obscure show i noticed on netflix in 2018 that i found to be the natural progression of old charmed fans. Its a real hidden gem I couldn't understand why i hadn't heard of it before.
This show does test superman by loading his plate instead of depowering him which is a breath of fresh air. Im still team General Lane all the way
I'm really happy were they are going with this show.
Thanks John, awesome breakdown! A character like Superman needs to be treated with respect and dignity and so far the writers seem to understand what makes him work. Love Lois and the family dynamics and real life obstacles that come with their unique challenges that Superman must overcome.
When I saw he was wearing the fleischer studios suit I knew I had to at least give it a try. Good show so far. Feels like a direct sequel to Smallville.
It does Superman so well
Superman and Lois. Need to talk about it. Episode 13 freaking knocked it out of the park.
I just watched the last episode. One of the better ones!
Hey John! I could not agree more with your answers. They have finally gotten his character right after the jobber angle on Supergirl. The cinematography on this show is beautiful.
How dare you not intend such a wonderful oppourtunity for such beautful pun.
I think it's generally a great take on the character, didn't do anything too new, but instead has aspects of previous interpretations so that he feels familiar no matter who your Superman is. You can look at him and say, yeah, that's MY Superman. He's familiar. He's charming and optimistic like Reeve and Routh, he's got the balance of human and god that Welling had, really selling that he can do what he does because of his Kryptonian roots, but he does it because of his humanity, and he's got that feeling of responsibility and just, majesty that Cavill brought to the character.
I agree so much John. though I would have used demoralising instead of nuiterd.i wasn't big on the idea of a superman show but this has been an exciting ride so far
Man.... I really liked Grimm as well. That show is the reason why I was immediately on board with the casting of Lois Lane in the Arrowverse. Superman being the god damn SUPERMAN is a huge reason why this show is great but I think another reason is this show gets rid of most plot points from other Superman shows. Superman being married, a father, and trying to balance being the greatest hero of Earth is something that's never been explored in live action or animated media.
BTW, Superman being THE MOTHER F'ING SUPERMAN is one of the many reasons why the Snyder Cut is awesome. I kind of felt bad for Steppenwolf at one point.
Fantastic show. Understands the fundamental humanity of Superman. So happy that they haven't shit the bed yet
I stopped watching the CW Arrowverse a little after The Flash season 5 and I never actually watched the Supergirl show so I don’t actually know what that version of Superman was like, but this show is kinda enticing me to come back to this universe, mainly because I just love the character of Superman and want to see him utilized more, so I might actually end up checking this show out
Hoechlin (Hecklin) John
This show is filling the void that smallville never filled.
A compelling and Serious Superman show without compromises or gimmicks. There is tights there is flight.
Also I don’t hate Lana. Which after 8 seasons made me want to throw a brick at my TV
As far as I’m aware it was Tom Welling that enforced the “no tights, no flights” bullshit rule instead of doing his job and doing what he was paid for, they planned to have him fully become Superman by the 5th/6th season but had to abandon that and instead find other ways to further the story, but it just fell off after that. They should’ve either ended the series officially after the 6th season or replaced Welling with an actor who would wear the suit.
I am really enjoying this new show. As a side note I rewatched Smallville S02E01 after watching the 3rd episode of Superman & Lois and it feels like a good sequel to Smallville. It doesn't have the same feels as Smallville yet, but maybe it will get there. I don't care what anyone says, but I loved and still love watching Smallville. It was fun, it had good actors, good weekly stories and good over arcing stories. I hope this new show gets a have a good run. This feels like how a Superman show should be. I also now really want to go back and watch Lois & Clark. I know it won't amaze me special effects wise I am sure, but it is a show I always wanted to watch and for whatever reason I never got there.
Seems to me or feels like it to me that this show is Smallville 15 years later. Like a continuation of what happened to Clark after they got married and had kids.
I'm really curious to why they skipped so far into the future but I'm going to go with it. It's good.
I try to imagine the same. It was weird getting the baseball that Johnathan wouldn't let him. Lana summarized it best how it was Lois who brought out his confidence, whereas is Smallville S10 Lois was the one who made him tone down Clark Kent for Superman to thrive in anonymity.
@@p.o.p.presents they actually didn’t skip to the future. This show is right after crisis.
Best CW show since early Arrow and Flash.
Ah, early flash. Truly great. Zoom and Reverse flash were amazing villains. Although season 7 has been good so far.
I LOVE SUPERMAN AND LOIS
I’m liking it too
I like the series, but the season 2 finally gave me the full Superman I wanted.
I think its great because it looks like effort is put in to it, and no woke politics injected into it. But Flash s1 I felt was good but went off the rails. Hopefully this show succeeds by providing more characters, stories and no politics 🙏
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I always thought Smallville was about SuperYoungAdult. its only in the series finale episode that he becomes *SUPERMAN*.
I wasn't interested in this show, but if 5:20 this is the type if dialogue they ate using, hell yeah count me in 😂
Didnt think I'll like it either because I'm slowing down on the arrowverse. But this show is great!
Tyler even before his show was a abetter superman than henry cavil
I agree
Grimm was awesome...
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I've only heard it here but jobber is already a term that I put up there with mary sue and manic pixie dream girl as terms that I hope to never hear again. Terms I just think are reductive and overused.
That Lois Lane has a striking resemblance to Margot Kidder
AGREED 1,000,000%. This Superman was a sideshow in Supergirl, and very much disrespected. This show is great!
Ok.
I'm glad to see John finally coming around on Tyler Hoechlin's Superman and liking him but I need to explain this yet again for John , The Earth Prime Superman jobber Superman as you call me was a supporting character in Supergirl and The Arrowverse Crossover crossovers Elseworlds and Crisis On infinite Earths was the way he was written bad yes but he was depowered when your a guest character on a tv show for Superhero TV you are not going to be fully powered I did not hear people complain when The Flash was on Supergirl oh he's not The Flash etc. etc. I mean come on John love you but use common sense here Tyler's Earth Prime Superman again a supporting character alright. But the Superman & Lois Superman is the character true to the character and for me Tyler's Superman is the best Superman live action since Christopher Reeve and the best Clark Kent since Smallville and I'm sorry he's a better Superman / Clark Kent than your boy John Henry Cavill just my take though.
They have been telling Superman stories for over 80 years John so I don't buy the it's hard to make Superman movies because of how powerful he is argument. He's been challenged plenty.
I've always heard him say jobber superman. what does he mean by that?
Superman isn’t the granddaddy of all superheroes, Superman is the granddaddy of all DC superheroes.
Technically he started the superhero trend all together . Without him no dc or marvel would have existed ( not saying heroes like zorro or phantom didn't exist before him )
@@Noone-vz6ye I know, but that doesn’t make him the granddaddy of all superheroes, he is the granddaddy of all DC superheroes, but not all superheroes as a whole.
@@trevturp7687 why not without him captain America would have never been made and without the cap marvel wouldn't be created .
@@Noone-vz6ye Superman doesn’t exist in the Marvel Universe. Captain America is the granddaddy of all Marvel superheroes. He fights for truth, Justice, and the American way in the Marvel Universe. He embodies the best of us in the Marvel Universe, while Superman does the same in the DC Universe.
@@trevturp7687 it's not about the in universe logic my man , captain America and this whole superhero craze only started with superman .
What is a Jobber?
It’s a wrestling term, it’s that unknown guy that always get defeated by the popular wrestler.
@@tatsuo71 The guy that makes others look good by holding the L. In dating terms, its the DUFF- The Ugly Best Friend that makes the main character stand out even more and eliminates competition for mates
Best superman ever? No. Personally I don't think he will be. But is he a good superman? Yes, I have to admit that Tyler as superman is growing on me. BUT I still see only an improved version of Christopher Reeve's superman and I think that's where the showrunners and writers need to focus on: to make Tyler's superman his own and unique version of superman. Tom Welling did it (at least for tue first 7 or 8 seasons) and Henry Cavill did it as well.
I don't see how Tyler's Superman is anything like Christopher Reeve's. Tom Welling wasn't even Superman in Smallville till the very final seconds of the show.
I loved Grimm Sans last season
I enjoyed the first 2 episodes but the 3rd made me nervous that this show will be dominated by the same repetitive Soap Opera tropes that bog down every CW show.
The show is made by HBO max and was picked up by the CW judt wait until season 2 😂
Let's just hope that Supergirl doesn't show up on Superman and Lois for an episode John because if she does he will probably be a jobber again.
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Batman is more important but other than that completely agree.
Superman sounds like Sephiroth now...it freaks me out.
It had 10 seasons
Is this opinion similar to this argument?:
How do you make a good Superman game if Superman is only weak to kryptonite and magic without being reliant on those being his only obstacles? Don't make Superman taking damage the main obstacle, but possibly using all your powers the most efficiently, like "How many NPCs the player can save." It's not if he can, it's how he can.
I used to love smallville but upon rewatching it a few weeks ago, it felt kindda dated. Smallville didn't age well IMHO.
Not exactly, I would recommend skipping alot of the first season ( the monster of the week might have worked back then , but now watching it back to back ... yeah it seems boring . ) there are videos on UA-cam that can help you decide which episodes to skip and which to watch .
yeah...
I'm still not gonna watch it
Why does superman look like a plumber? No one has successfully answered that question, in regards to this show
They will drop the ball the moment they start to allow wokeness into it.
Curious.....Why do you keep saying "THE Superman." It's just Superman. There's no "THE" about it.
How is not being the Alpha anymore the same thing as being everyone's bitch? The Supergirl series is about someone becoming her own person instead of being a pale reflection of a more famous cousin.
How is that a bad thing?
Superman & Lois blatantly ignores that by calling Superman the most important person on the planet.
In most Superman stories I know Kal-El doesn't see himself as the Alpha, but as someone who's there to help. That's what makes him likable. Kingdom Come is an exception. In that story, it backfires terribly. There are also a few where he becomes Earth's dictator.
How is that a good thing?
Don't get me wrong, I like Superman & Lois, but it shouldn't be about Superman having the biggest dick. Otherwise, the series really would be mainly about adolescent power fantasies.
I mean it's how people like general lane sees superman as . Clark just considers himself as a helper , a friend not a messiah.. he doesn't consider himself above humanity he consider himself one of them .
If anybody views themselves as alpha it is Edge , whose worldview is totally different from that of Clark .
@@Noone-vz6ye Absolutely correct.
I'm sorry, but for me it's already slipping a bit. The Jordan character is beyond annoying af. Tired of the Non-Stop whinny of the kids.
He did not behave like that in the last ep
@@maliquematthews903 Oh they do next week 😁
But hey if you enjoy it that's all that really matters.
@@enuffsaid7310 thanks for the comment
@@maliquematthews903 👍
Superman may be iconic but he is probably the least interesting and most boring Superhero.
most boring superhero he's not where you get that logic from watch Superman the animated series and all might from my hero Academia and tell me that Superman is "boring"
In this show he is not
@@maliquematthews903 No, it's because they gave him something we as normal people can relate too. He has a family and he is struggling with taking care of his family while also being a superhero. That is what makes this Superman interesting and relatable. However, I feel that in general as a superhero he is boring because he was made to be virtually perfect. John seems to be content that he constantly has to beat everyone he fights and that if he doesn't then he is not Superman and therfore he has been "neutered". That to me makes a boring superhero.
I never understood this criticism about Superman. How is he boring? I've always thought Superman is the most humane superhero in comics. That endeared him so much to me as a kid, and still does as an adult.
There is no reason why anyone would watch this Superman series when there is Smallville which has more interesting Characters and Stories. The girls are hotter and with great personalities.
Both are great shows. The one is when Clark was young and the other is about his family and the issues Superman has.. to save the world and to be at the same time with his family. Different stories hater.
And the girls are hotter? Wtf? 🤮
I was a little uncertain in parts of the first episode, mostly because I was thinking, "The 'hero struggles with balancing the responsibility of superhero-ing with his obligations to family/friends/work/etc.' thing has been done, and you're not gonna find a better poster child for that trope than Spiderman." But I think this version works in part because it brings together the best elements of the character. It establishes his marriage to Lois, who is necessary as both foil and complement to the Superman character, and shows us how much they both respect and inspire each other. It brings him back to Smallville, immersing us in his small-town farm-boy roots. And it gives him a pair of teenage sons.
It's easy to make Superman struggle by giving him power-creep villains (and I'm sure this show will have its share of them), and telling us he wants to save humanity because he's a Good Guy with a Heart of Gold, and all that. But showing us that, as an integral part of his character?
His sons are as different as chalk and cheese, sometimes normal and sometimes special, sometimes easy and sometimes difficult, and he doesn't always know what's the right decision to make. But he loves them; he wants to uplift them; he wants to give them the best chance at a good, safe, normal life as possible; and he wants to help them be the best versions of himself that he can. His sons are a microcosm for humanity. They help show us how much Superman cares - not just about them, but about us.