THIS Is How Superman Should Be Portrayed
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- Опубліковано 28 тра 2024
- Superman has by far had one of the most storied histories on the silver screen. From the first time we see Superman on screen, to today's modern version, the way in which The Man of Steel is portrayed has changed drastically. The CWverse however, has found a way to bring our favorite superhero back to the ideals of the early years.
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The most important part of Superman isn't the "super" - it's the "man".
As Batman said "In many ways Clark is the most human of us all. Then... he shoots fire from his eyes, and it is difficult not to think of him as a god. And how fortunate we all are that it does not occur to him."
@@galantos30 That's one of my favorite scenes in Superman/Batman Public Enemies. Superman's synopsis of Batman is equally poignant, "Sometimes, I admit, I think of Bruce as a man in a costume. Then, with some gadget from his utility belt, he reminds me that he has an extraordinarily inventive mind."
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That's what she said!
The "thanks my mom made it" line absolutely cemented this as my favourite on screen Superman. He's so earnestly good and friendly but he's not boring either, which there's a danger of making him in any story
That was the first DC clip on insta about the CW shows that didn't make ne cringe. It just felt so Superman and I love how Tyler can capture the character without looking just like him. In my opinion Tyler is the Superman the modern day deserves.
I think in every version but idiot Snyder's version Clark's mom made the suit. In Lois and Clark he also said his mom made the suit.
he's boring. Can never compare to Caville. Caville commands presence.
@@pastordonkoh7692 -- Through no fault of his own, Caville was a terrible version of Superman though. I don't blame Caville. I blame Snyder.
@@Fazzel Caville was a devisive Superman because the director took risk. The marmite of Superman portrayals. I loved the idea of "what if superman was real" approach. but the execution was naft
Something I noticed on this show I really enjoyed: Supeman uses closed fists on his foes with super strength, and open hands and light pushes on normal human criminals. I appreciate the distinction.
That’s a good eye I didn’t catch that but it makes so much sense.
Ah. Now that you say it, I remember supes doing that in bvs
Batman used bullets for criminals and bombs for super monster in bvs
@@Theydas what are you talking about? He literally killed a guy with a grenade in that warehouse scene. Lmao.
@@sid1234213 Really batman punched a mans head in the ground bvs
I love how proud Superman was that the costume was made by his mom!
I think everyone can agree 💯
@@Sosuke_Aizen2.o any man worth their salt will be proud to say that their mother helped them I still do it.
I'd be psyched as hell if my mom helped make my supersuit--especially if it came out as dope as Superman's. :)
The show finally understands that Clark Kent is a man who needs human connection & the world as much as the world needs a Superman. He's the one superhero who acts solely out of love for the shared humanity in which he is a part. That's an extraordinarily powerful concept. Richard Donner got it in 1978. And _Superman & Lois_ gets it.
Yeah he's a Alien orphan who will do anything to protect the only world he's known, the adoptive world of Earth.
@@ahopefor exactly! Superman is so great because the most human hero is one that isn’t even human. A superman that doesn’t show humanity isn’t superman at all.
As much as the Cw is as It is, at least they did Superman right
Yall are giving CW too much credit. The specific writers that wrote THIS Superman did an amazing job.
The 1978 movie didn’t really get Superman though. In those movies, he’s just a guy who saves people and smiles at them. No depth or struggle whatsoever. To make matters worse, he gave up his powers for selfish reasons in the sequel. Who is this?
Superman in the show is almost entirely like the comics; he’s a sympathetic Everyman who has actual moral values, not a wisecracking Mary Sue that just preaches about the safety of transportation. Superman in the show is what Zack Snyder’s Superman would’ve become if Zack had finished his five-movie arc for him.
I believe Neil Gaiman put it best when he said, you don't make Superman relevant. You make him inspiring. Maybe, in the end, the ultimate goal of all art is to inspire love.
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OI!!! It's the Zebra Girl guy!
@@diegonei Yep, that's me!
@@JoeEnglandShow Thanks for all the effort and time. Jack's character arc in the Duvase story is still one of the best I've seen in comics.
@@diegonei Thank you very much, Diego. That means a lot to hear!
Superman’s character is, and always will be, a very “Boy Scout” personality. And that’s precisely why he caught on in the first place. More than most heroes, Clark goes out of his way to do what he thinks is the right and moral thing to do.
And that moralism is when the character is at its best. At the end of the day, he’s still just a community oriented, rural Kansas farm boy.
Good thing too considering what the guy is capable of
Ultimately, his greatest power is that incorruptible goodness, that humble, sunny, optimism.
What I love so much about Superman and Lois's Superman, though, is the clear line dividing Superman the hero and Clark the dad, and the simultaneous perfectly clear comprehensibility for that division.
As Superman, he's massive, iconic; he's smiling, almost joyous, almost innocent, moral, helpful, strong, certain, and wholly undivided in his purpose. He is a *superhero* in the very best sense.
And then he goes home and becomes Clark the dad...and though his love and devotion to his family is immediately apparent, he's also uncertain, not totally able to connect with his children, with imperfect judgment, occasionally being too harsh, occasionally too filled with worry to think clearly, though ultimately just as undivided in his purpose to be the best father and husband he can be.
It should feel like some fake private vs real personal character split, but it comes across as equally sincere--and that sincerity is the ultimate emotion the actor must portray. Superman's awesome sincerity must always shine through, and Tyler Hoechlin absolutely nails that aspect.
The uploader made a great point about Superman being an alien that holds a mirror so humanity can examine themselves. That's what Superman should always be. Superman is not about the powers, it's about the person.
@@deanjustdean7818 I say don't give any of them superpowers. The truth is none is Superman. Human are corrupted from the core. Giving them power will just make them more evil. As They say "Absolute Power Corrupts absolutely "
Looking at Henry Cavill in interviews, you can see that he's perfectly capable of playing Clark Kent, the shy, but happy-go-lucky goodie-two-shoes from Smallville, with a strong moral. But they wanted him to play a jaded man who distrusts people (Geralt of Rivia). A comment I've seen perfectly encapsulates the problem with the new live action versions of the DC superheroes, I could never see any of them consoling a crying child, and if you can't imagine them doing that, they're neither Superman nor Batman, they're an imitation and a parody that strips away their personality and leaves them only their suit and their powers.
I'm sad for Cavill, he is so capable of playing Clark but DC don't bring him back, he even said he wasn't done with the character again.
I call it the Andrew Garfield treatment
If everything goes what I think they are doing in The Batman, I hope Robert Pattinson can capture that feeling off Batman in the future. That look Bruce gives to Mitchells son during the funereal and SPOLIERS IF YOU STILL HAVEN'T SEEN IT YET
the fact that Batman realized that his methods might actually make make Gotham worse and need to change his ways shows that they might gives us the Batman that will console a crying child. And I hope there is someone who can do the same for Superman too
@@backtoklondike Well, they already gave us a modern Superman that undoubtedly does that, played by none other than Tyler Hoechlin.
Henry Cavill being himself is more Superman than when he's playing Superman. Snyder sucked the Superman out of Henry.
"There you go friend."
"Wow! Cool costume!"
"Thanks! My mom made it for me."
A minute into the show and I was sold by this exchange. So old school, cheesy, and goody two shoes, but so damn Superman.
I was going into watching the first episode of Superman and Lois thinking that I would like it if it was going to be better than supergirl but I was pleasantly surprised by how it was not just Clark then all the other characters like supergirl was. The side characters are actual characters not just characters in a scene because it makes sense for those characters to be in a scene. The side characters have story arcs
I have a completely different reaction. It made me throw up a little in my mouth. I can't stand this kind of Superman.
Luckily I got Injustice to wash the bad taste out of my mouth.
@@mbogucki1 Injustice is the worst characterization of Superman you could get. Like, it's fun to see what would happen if Superman turned evil, but if you know anything about Superman, you know his love of humanity isn't dependent on Lois - Justice League Dark Apokolips War is a better characterization on that regard, but unfortunately the movie has many other issues.
@@mbogucki1 so you dont like the real Superman
@@falkyrie5228 I find Superman far more compelling when he is the antithesis of boyscout Superman. The Injustice version, Justice Lords from DCAU and my favorite Red Son. I find it a more realistic take on a character with unlimited powers rather than "I love humanity because I grew up sheltered on a farm" version of Superman.
The two versions I enjoyed the most were MoS for obvious reasons and his portrayal in The Animated Series. In TAS he was most compelling when pushed to the edge, nearly killing Darkseid or beating Mongul to a pulp.
"It is a remarkable dichotomy. In many ways, Clark is the most human of us all. Then...he shoots fire from the skies, and it is difficult not to think of him as a god. And how fortunate we all are that it does not occur to him." - Batman
That last line "that it does not occur to him" sums up Clark/Superman completely. That's why people love him.
@@nintendo2000 Yes Please I REALLY want to know where this is from because I definitely want to read it
@@musicandmoviefan9217 @Nintendo2000 It's from Superman/Batman Issue 3 by Jeph Loeb
@@musicandmoviefan9217 there's an animated adaptation called "public enemies". But this line is not featured in that film.
they say absolute power corrupts absolutely.
superman is the exception to that rule. he has all this power and yet, his first thought is "how can i help people with it?"
and people think that desire to do good is a bad thing.
I think what makes All-Star Superman so good was the meaning behind the front cover image. That he's not a character who feels the need to *pose*. It's the most powerful man in the world so why would he feel the need to demonstrate it. As such, he's just sitting in the clouds being comfortable and content and listening for the next emergency to solve.
I agree, its as if you could sit next to him and enjoy each other's presence
Thanks for this!! Keep Superman the way he was meant to be and loved the world over. Yeah, and pro American!!😊🇺🇸
Let's not forget how great Dean Cain's version was. He also had the "My mother made it for me" line, and he had the perfect comment to Lois when he said, "Superman is what I can do, Clark is who I am."
Season 2 really got into its stride.
I LOVE that last line, it showcases what superman really is.
I loved that show and that line in the 90’s as a teenager… Until I grew up and it wasn’t the cheesy 90’s anymore and realised the opposite is the case.
Clark Kent is how he hides by blending in with the regular people by pretending to be a shy, weak, kind of useless and pretty much a Canadian sad sack.
Superman is who he is when he isn’t pretending to be a beta klutz, a kind of bumbling nice guys finish last, and is that way to fit in because that’s how he views humans.
If he thought average humans were gym rats, and powerlifting jock bros Clark Kent would be a protein shake drinking meat head who spends his time discussing leg day, his squat PR and checking out the ladies.
@@Nevyn515 this comment sounds like someone who has never once seen or read a single thing about or including Superman. Clark is absolutely who he truly is, in every single depiction shown. Clark is not at all a costume or an act. He grew up for 20+ years as Clark Kent. Superman is always the costume. Bruce Wayne is more of who you've described, and that's because the real Bruce died in Crime Alley with his parents. This is even shown directly in the comics when they both meet Wonder Woman and she has them all introduce themselves with the Lasso of Truth. Superman introduces himself as Clark Kent, Batman introduces himself as Batman.
One of my favorite episodes was when Lois ends up with Clark's powers. She goes to him upset, saying she is a failure because she saved a crashing plane and as a result was too late to save a village from an avalanche.
Clark tells her she didn't fail - it is what he experiences daily.
All of the best Superman adaptations understand one fundamental truth: Superman IS Clark Kent. It's not a mask he wears, he's a dorky, idealistic farmboy brought up by loving parents who can acknowledge his flaws and do his best to overcome them, not some inhuman Space Jesus. Superman & Lois is literally the best thing that the CWverse has done
Why are you so dishonest about everything? What is the point?
@@charliehustle3876 What are you even on about?
I know superman and lois is awesome and honestly of the best start to a new chapter in the arrow verse... but it still has a long way to go. We have seen how cw shows failed before but seeing the production the crew behind it all, I feel hopeful that the series could end up being better than some of the best things the cw has produced such as smallville and arrow.
@@braddub8145 I’m going to let you try to explain the “Inhuman Space Jesus” thing and we’ll see if you can figure out what I’m on about.
@@charliehustle3876 You're the one being rude, so feel free to explain your point first
There was a scene in Supergirl when Clark came to visit Kara and clumsily knocked papers out of someone's hand. She said "Wow. You really got that bumbling reporter act down pat!". He sighed and said "Yeah, it's not an act." When he's not being Superman and is relaxing, he's Clark. But whether he's Clark or Superman, he loves people, they love him, and he's humble about it. That's the Superman I love.
Yeah his characterisation in those early episodes is why I stopped watching the show while drunk because it was getting halfway good.
As much as I like Kill Bill, they got Superman wrong in there. Bruce Wayne, the billionaire playboy, is just an act; now Clark Kent, the boy scout from Kansas, that's who Superman really is.
@@falkyrie5228 yeah, like I get what Bill wanted to say in that scene but he uses the wrong example
like clark said to lois in "lois and clark":
clark kent is who i am. superman is just what i can do.
@@falkyrie5228 Bill was supposed to be wrong. He's the villain. His perspective on Superman is warped.
The best part for me in general is how much more invested I was in Clark scenes compared to Superman's. I just wanted to badly see the Kent family dynamic that when Superman popped up, I just wanted it to be quicker.
There is plenty of edge lord, emo, anti-hero, conflicted, mixed up superheroes studios can choose from.
Superman is a breath of fresh air from all that, alongside being famous for his powers is also known for being incredibly good for nearly 80 years.
People who think the character is boring and generic don't know the character, when really all the other edgy superheroes they like often eventually are forgotten.
Superman actually has virtues, justice and goodness that people can aspire to while trends come and go.
This is why I love Superman. Literally take away his powers, but his heart is what really makes him admirable and lovable. He'd last just as long as Batman with the same core.
Exactly. The Donner films are what popularized the Big Blue Boy Scout image of Superman. Hollywood needs to go back and watch George Reeves. That's a no nonsense interpretation of Superman and Clark Kent alike. That Superman is tough and means business. What crook wouldn't be afraid of him based on attitude alone?
Yeah, I still don't understand why people think Superman is "too cliché" and whatever for being too perfectly good when... most heroes all end up being that deeply flawed, wounded, tortured, broken fighter ? Most heroes have been anti-heroes for decades, with nobody truly doing good for the sake of goodness. Superman is actually an incredible exception (and they even made it realistic by making him a different species.)
Superman is one of my favorites because he’s “generic” and like you said stands for good and justice. That’s all we’ve ever wanted from a Superman. Leave the darker and edgy personality to Batman and the Gotham cast.
Well said!
"Superman's true power is his kindness. Any adaptation that forgets that isn't really doing Superman justice." THANK YOU!!!!!
Lol that is far from it superman has gone berzerker on supergirl shazam dr fate and many other characters so this bullshit needs to stop, your gatekeeping needs to end.
@@tahabadar1359 Where any of these "elseworld" comics or story lines? If not, which ones... I'd like to read'em
@@MyZ001 for shazam and supergirl read batman superman:infected storyline.
I forgot the dr fate one, sorry.
@@tahabadar1359 subtlety must go over your head a lot lol.
You never see this kind of father archetype on family tv shows anymore. They always have dorky idiot goofball dads that no one takes seriously. Like dads can either be dorks or abusive jerks and there's no in between. That was one of the things i liked about superman and lois. A rare instance where they try to depict a good, competent father and example of positive masculinity.
When are you referring to as "these days"? Friday Night Lights' Coach Taylor was I guess a decade ago. Archie's dad in Riverdale was more this archetype too. Stiles dad in (MTV's) Teen Wolf. There are also perhaps not biological fathers, but father figures that would fit too. More recently the father/father figures in Stranger Things, Cobra Kai, Mixed-ish, and the Wonder Years reboot, which are family shows. It all depends on what you're watching.
@@checksanity daredevil too
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How's that video exposeding Justin Y going?
Uncle Ben left the chat.
Also marriage is like a college in America. People either get bored out of it or they are expelled 😂 (you would expect graduation, but let's be honest America is a land of divorces)
It's incredible how in this one single line, "thanks, my mom made it for me," I no longer dislike Superman. I've always seen him portrayed as pompous, overly self-assured, and maybe that's just because I somehow saw him the way Batman see him???? Idk, but I'm glad I saw that clip. I was so wrong about who Superman is.
You remind me of Batfleck at the end of Batman v Superman.
Have you ever watched Smallville?
Bruh the show is corny Lmaooo it’s crazy how many of you have the mind of a 12 year old thinking this is something incredible smh “my mom made it for me” are y’all really serious right now? If I made video on this show I could point out a dozen inconsistencies and pointless scene, I’m not stopping other people from liking this but this show could’ve been wayyy better, I could point out a lot of things that don’t make sense, I wanted to quit watching after the second ep, I forced my way through it hoping it would get better, and it did but not that much really lol
Depends on what supes you're reading/watching, he's been twisted and rebuilt 100x over
@@dr.chidori96 The point is how the scene shows how Superman is human, not in blood but in heart.
“Superman’s true power is his kindness.” DAMN RIGHT!
A lot of studios, writers, and people get so focused and preoccupied with the "Super" part that they completely gloss over the "man" part.
What makes Superman who he is isn't the God-like powers, the super-strength, flying, heat-vision, ice breath, enhanced hearing, or anything like thing else he can do with his abilities: It's his character. His sense of right and wrong. His willingness to help because he has a strong sense of optimism and hope. That he sees what good humanity can do and tries his best to guide them there and be an example.
As Zod says - he actually cares. It is both his greatest strength and greatest weakness.
Idk why but him simply saying My Mom Made it For Me made me cry with joy. This is exactly the superman I grew up with. Superman can be a leader when he is needed to be shown serious, but alone he is just a hopeful guy who likes to see the good in people! IT IS OK TO BE ROSEY EYED!
I have no real connection to Superman but I also cried in that scene, but idk why
@@matheusjezini Because everyone loves their mothers, and for some of us, the idea that our mothers would put that much effort into something strikes a nerve.
@@glowingmonster Yes.
Has a sunny outlook on what life should be, evidently powered by the actual sun.
@@glowingmonster I think it in 1 part touches upon our boyish relationship to our mother, maybe for others the simple raw & pure relationship they would like to have had with their mother as boys.
When Clark made that statement, he made it like many of us would (or would like to have) at 7 - 12 years of age.
It was an unashamed statement of innocent truth, coupled with a boyish pride for wearing what a loving mother made for him.
I think another part of why so many responded as they did comes from a deep interior yearning for the presence of that strain of innocence and cleanness within our world, and the kind of quality it can/could bring to our lives.
I’ve really enjoyed this Superman. Just him being a dad is just the next step for him in his story. Love it in the show and I love it in the comics too! I really recommend Supersons if you love this series.
When he let Jordan laser vision into his hand, that hit me emotionally
I second that recommendation for supersons. It's so freaking adorable.
Superman (2016), written by Peter Tomasi, is great at getting this, though people tend to forget about a few of the arcs that are fairly boring. I highly recomend reading it.
Jon Kent as Superboy was awesome, before Brian Michael Bendis decided to shake things up for reasons I don't really get. Don't get me wrong, Bendis has done some cool things. Action Comics under Bendis has had some great moments focusing on Clark Kent the reporter, and I thought that a lot of the stuff around the arc in Superman (2018) where Clark reveals his secret to the world was really fun (no idea if that's been retconned yet or not).
One of my favorite depictions of Clark Kent is in American Alien. Unfortunately, that was written by Max Landis, who was since outed as, at the least, a huge scumbag, so I feel weird recommending it, but All-Star Superman and Superman For All Seasons are two other great Superman stories.
Ok so I haven’t seen the CW show, but do they ever explain how Clark Kent is able to have children at all? Ya’know cause he’s a completely different species than Lois.
@@irishjet2687 American Alien is my favourite too and I feel the same. But a lot of other really talented creatives worked on the comic - I love that a different artist drew each issue. I doubt Landis is making royalties from 🙂
Honestly, I’ve been swinging this show and The Boys on rotation, and as much as I love watching the boys or other modern super hero shows and flicks, something about this super man just makes you feel “fine” in a good way. Like you’re relaxed with him in the scene, and you’re engaged with the other characters. Its refreshing to see a show in general not try so hard to appeal to everything and anything. They literally gave us Superman and said enjoy the vibes and I’m here for it!
I just love that Tyler Hoechlin is getting all the love he deserves from being Superman
The best Superman self-description before this came from the Lois and Clark series. "Clark Kent is who I am. Superman is what I can do."
I have always figured that any attempt to stray from that makes him into a self-propelled Batman, with one face for the good guys and one for the bad guys and a plot-pointed moral compass rather than a moral-compass-directed plot.
I'm glad CW is doing one of my favorite character styles: The good man trying to remain good in a bad situation.
The most recent episode of "Superman & Lois" really showed just how good Superman is imo. He didn't want Sam to disband Project 7734 so that Earth would be prepared if he ever went rogue again. He's willing to sacrifice himself to protect them from anything, even himself
I also loved how he trusted John Henry Irons with the 7734 project.
This is the same reason he's cool with and even gave batman the Kryptonite batsy boy carries around with him.
is this actor Indian or Latino?
@@eduardochavacano apparently he is a mix of European and Native American
Meanwhile, on the Supergirl show, Kara got all pissy because they were secretly making Kryptonite weapons in case the murderous super powered Kryptonians attacked again
This inspired me to give this show a go, and wow, it really give me the feels that Reeves films did. Love superman, and kind of embarrassing a tv budget show does a better job of superman than the films. The flashback episode is a movie in itself. Love it!
Did you get to episode 9?!??! Omg I cried like a baby when Clark was telling his story. It's sooo pure.
I agree with this, but I also feel it’s important to give Peter Tomasi credit, while he didn’t create superman having a family he was the one who really fostered Superman having a family in the comics
As a Snyderverse apologist, I have to say that the version of Kal-EL in Superman and Lois is by far my favorite live action depiction. Yes, even better then Reeves. This version of Clark is not a mask that Kal puts on as Reeves portrayed. Instead it's Kal's real personality. The true blue, kind hearted, optimistic man of tomorrow. He doesn't care what language you speak or what religion you are, if you need help he is there. He may act a bit bumbley on purpose in a scene or two, but this Clark is not a lie. My favorite quote comes from Abraham Lincoln and I believe it sums up Superman's character perfectly, "Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man’s character, give him power". Superman is the most powerful being on Earth and he uses it to selflessly better the lives of everyone ells. He decides to lead by example and help guide humanity to a better tomorrow.
There’s Reeves (the first live action Superman) and Reeve (from the Richard Donner film). Are you sure you don’t mean ‘Reeve’?
@@francfurters8522 sorry, I meant Christopher Reeve
"He doesn't care what language you speak"
That's why I loved that scene where he spoke to an asian man in his native language. The man cares so much that he's taken the time to learn...all the languages? I think he said in the interview with Lois in one episode? Just so he can better help ALL the people of the world, not just those in Metropolis and Smallville.
@@TheScrubExpress I also really loved that scene. He is here to help ALL of humanity.
Lincoln should have listened to his own advice.
I love how superman is flawed in this show, it gives him more of a personality and its fun to see him battle crime while caring for his sons. It gives new depth to the character, making him more human, in a way. I love this show
This is the Superman from the comics.
@@christopherapodaca2373 He did use super-hearing to spy on one of his sons, so he's not perfect, to be fair.
You can't call it new when this has always been his character. The comics has always portrayed him this way. It's only new to people who don't read the comics.
Thanks for the insight Spooderman
It is how you tell a compelling story with someone of Superman's level. You give him a situation his powers can't solve. I am not talking about an enemy to fight, I am talking about family issues and the like. He can't solve that by using his powers.
I just love Smallville and Superman and Lois is also pretty good. That wholesomeness is so nice to see on screen. Sure neither are perfect but I think they both capture who Superman is meant to be. A kind good person who puts humanity before himself. A good wholesome story. The magic formula would be to combine that power, speed, and awe from the Snyder movies and the kind side of Superman from the tv shows and make an epic and pure Superman. That’s the dream at least.
At the moment I'm making my way all thru Smallville (haven't seen it for ages). The first few years were the best. Tom Welling has the face and body and attitude. Also liked Lois and Clark for the humor and his parents' involvement in a different way from Welling's parents. Never heard of this one. I no longer have a TV which is probably the reason. But I don't like this guy's face (sorry Tyler, never heard of you before but you don't look right).
Just finished watching superman and Louis - by far the best adaptation since the original movies. Not to mention by far the most believable superman since Christopher Reeves.
Brilliant!
the whole deal is that once they thought that darkness was the closest to reality, thats why they tried darker versions, so we could indentify, but the twist is that deep inside, society identify with love, honor, justice, and everything Sup's archetype has. We like to pretend we identify with Bruce more than anyother, but in reality we have a moral compass, deep inside, that indentify with Super
I have become extremely tired of everything being cynical. for the sake of "realism". What happened to uplifting the audience? Giving the audience hope, or a sense of love for the world? I will ALWAYS choose to read something like John Carter over Game of Thrones because John Carter gives me a model of someone I want to be like. The main character is a good man whom I want to emulate. In Game of Thrones killed the hero. GRRM spat in the face of goodness and is obsessed with ideas that no one cares about or even doesn't want to think about.
Bruce possesses all of those traits, my guy. You should read more comics.
@@TheMassiveGamer i do read comics. Lots of comics. But John Carter of Mars needs more recognition.
@@jedh3721 "what _happened to uplifting the audience? Giving the audience hope, or a sense of love for the_ world?" ......Well that ended once the internet became accessible to most and now everyone , young or old , can be aware of the sad reality of our world , instead of living in blissfull idealistic ignorance . Like all the people before the 9/11 used to do
@@Dan_Kanerva "Fairy tales do not tell children the dragons exist. Children already know that dragons exist. Fairy tales tell children the dragons can be killed."
- fantastic misquote of G.K. Chesterton by Neil Gaiman
Man, I wish this is what Henry got.. he’s such a perfect pick for superman, it’s just sad to see him on the sidelines now
Only amplified by the fact that they *could* absolutely recover it now that somebody has figured out the audience doesn't want to see Superman moping in black and white. They *could* create a new 'classic' iconic megablockbuster with Cavill as the best established actor for the job. Signs are saying they'll let it slip though, and just reboot the character for the what...5th time in 20 years?
It's not that Henry got the short end of the stick. I think he just doesn't have that kind and warm personality that Superman needs. He's too "perfect" and contained, and comes across as arrogant and cold. IMO
"Grumpy person who does good things" is kind of what I see from Henry Cavill's Superman. Ironically, that's the vibe I get from his performance as Geralt of Rivia in The Witcher, and people LOVE Henry as Geralt.
Granted, I think if he got better direction in being a super goody two shoes guy as Superman, he'd be better at it.
@@KeithTheDinosaurBoyVA Yeah, Geralt and Superman are basically opposites. Superman is supposed to ALWAYS do the right thing, no matter what he finds a way. Geralt always has to choose between two evils, despite not wanting to choose at all. That being said, I actually think he's a tad bit too good looking for the role. He just...doesn't look like a normal person. Like if you see him as Superman, I feel like his presence and appearance is such as to where he couldn't properly hide it. The guy in Lois and Clark looks like a person you could see on the street. Just...CW-ified.
I think Henry Cavill could perform a great Superman, because the few instances where we don't see him being mopey in MoS and JL, he seems like he could play a very down to earth guy. His euphoric smile when he first takes flight in MoS makes me think he can do it
Ahhh finally someone who recognizes how good this Superman is
Excellent observation about "non-conflict oriented, character based motivation." Too many superhero stories are now written around set piece action scenes where the conflict resolution is pretty easy to determine. I haven't liked Superman in many years but Superman & Lois resonates because you can have this basically nice guy trying to raise a family while having these fantastical powers. His niceness becomes refreshing instead of trite and the good/evil dichotomy or shades of gray postmodernism is tossed out in favor of a more nuanced "how does he have a normal life?" For me, the most interesting parts of the show are seeing him in mufti being the nerdy parent to difficult teens. Lois' greatest moment is recalling her miscarriage and showing her non-superpowered son what super strength really looks like.
I agree with you totally. You explained superbly.
Agreed. That's the reason why so many characters have no urgency and motivation. Because they are rail-roaded to several locations without their control. Logic doesn't matter, character choice doesn't matter, if the plot requires them to be there, the director will teleport them there even if it doesn't make sense.
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I remember when Teenage Clark asked his father in Donner's Superman why can't he just show everyone his powers, And Johnathan basically said It's fine to do it but , you have to be careful and help those you can who need it
Great scene
"Your father isn't Superman because he has powers. He's Superman because he grew up here."
The CW version is worlds better than the DCEU which, to me, seems like Clark only recently landed on Earth and is still figuring out humans - let alone himself.
Yeah, I could never buy Clark's internal conflict in the DCEU because it likes to pretend his alien nature somehow overrides his 30 years of human nurturing and socialization. It didn't help that Warner Brothers decided every single one of their superhero properties had to be made dark and intense, because The Dark Knight made a fuck ton of money back in 08, even if dark and intense is at odds with the nature of some characters, such as Superman.
@@TheKennethECarper well, 30 years of human nurturing and socialization doesnt make him a real human too. he needs to accept that he is alien on the outside and human inside. not to mention, tyler's world is vastly different from cavill's. in cavill's, the world isnt a big fan of aliens, especially aliens that can cause massive destruction. why wouldnt he need to figure out himself and others? thats how you grow up, by figuring things out. if you dont want him to do that, then you are denying his growth. and snyder's dc movies aint dark. it has dark moments, but overall they aint dark. i prefer the term realistic.
@@amazo88 A realistic superhero movie doesn't necessarily make it a good one. There's already all sorts of bullshit happening in the world already- if these characters that turn to as an escape from this reality have to deal with the same shit, it doesn't really make it escapism anymore.
@@TornaitSuperBird well, a bullshitic superhero movie doesnt necessarily make it a good either. you already have a lot of those with mcu. dceu doesnt have to be the same and it shouldnt. not all superhero movies have to be marvelized. people need to stop acting like marvel makes all the superhero movie laws.
@@TornaitSuperBird superheroes have always dealt with real world problems and ideas, some even simbolizing those, civil war came out after the twin towers attack, to portray the lack of trust in the government, the joker has been updated to represent societies greatest fears in each generation, carnage s design was to ellude vih in the 90s, wonder woman from the start dealt with sexism, doom patrol and xmen were created with the idea in mind of portraying minorities and how the world treats them, there were war oriented comics during world war 2, some even depicting hitler, injustice comics are shown to portray different idiologies corresponding to the death penalty, the very existence of superheroes is political in the sense that discuss how and why a person has a right to go against the law to do what is right, and the superhero comic industry as a whole have explored this idea for decades.
And there are so many other different examples.
And I'm not saying this cuz I like Snyder's rendition to Superman, its not my fav by any means.
What I'm saying is that portraying comics as they have never touched on this issues and that they just started recently is ignoring lots of how the superhero comic industry even started to grow, saying they have never tackled on political issues is not true, again that have doing that for decades, some like wonder woman has dealt with sexism till the 40s.
And I'm not saying superhero comics can't be an escape there are comics aimed to different publics, and people consider an escape differently from one another, but again it is not wise not to recognize superhero comics have always dealt with things like politics, and a sense of morality as a whole, superman(which this video is talking about) as a DC pillar, part of DCs trinity, of course has done that, mirror and critic society, superhero comics they have always portrayed the world they lived in at the time, and they will continue to do so.
Edit: I do agree Snyder wanted to give a "batman taste" to his universe. And even tho batman is my fav superhero and has been all my life, literally for as long as I can remember, I was 4, but I'm aware not everyone is batman and can function as such, characters like Supergirl and superman exude light and hope, and weren't meant to be as dark, and don't really work in the same way batman does
I grew up with Smallville, which I loved. I liked that he was always the good guy, and every once in a while, you got your bad version here and there, but relatively he was the good guy. I think we get the same from Superman and Lois. I've stopped watching a lot of CW shows, but I am really enjoying this one.
As much as I like the Injustice video game stories, I do miss seeing Superman as a positive character and not have a forced 'edge.'
Lol I find Clark is often the bad in guy in Smallville 😂 the way he toys with Lana’s feelings, him always acting on his emotions and I still say Clark is the reason Lex turned to the dark side, he pretty much pushed him into it. But that’s what I love about Smallville, Clark is just a regular flawed person when he’s not saving the world 🙌🏻
@@jasmineelizabeth3342 yeah it’s a show about clark before he’s Superman and I like that it shows even Superman had to go through trials and lessons
@@jasmineelizabeth3342 I wouldn’t say Clark pushed Lex to the dark side. Maybe it was Lex obsession about Clark and the lie of Clark.. But what really pushed him over the edge was his father Lionel tbh. I even wonder what would’ve been if Clark trusted Lex enough about his powers. Maybe Lex would’ve been a big asset and help for him coz he thought about Clark as a brother. Broken trust and a horrible father pushed Lex over the edge to the dark side
@@jasmineelizabeth3342 > "the _way he toys with Lana’s feelings_ yo"
Did you actually watched the show or ? Because that was Lex , not Clark... in fact Clark was the least emotional manipulator in Smallville , which mind you , in there almost everybody was playing a chess game to be on top of each other's emotions . Lana herself accepted Lex flirting and started a serious relationship with him , no , they got MARRIED just because she wanted to find out what he knew about Clark's real origins.
Lana is the one who was making 3000 IQ moves , not Clark... wtf ? Chloe was also a big brain character
And finally Lex got pushed to the dark side by his own lust for knowledge . His desire to break the code of what the kent were hidding because he thought it have a meaning to what happened to him as a child.
Did you guys watched the show or what in the ever loving Christ ?
This has to be one of the best commentary’s of Superman I have ever seen. Very well made!!!.. you definitely did your research and know the true nature of the character!! … thank you 🙏
It reminds me of what Lois & Clark: The New Adventures of Superman was in the 90s. Dean Cain's Superman also had the line, "My mother made it for me." For a lot of us, that was our first Superman next to the Donner films and I still look back with fond memories because of what he represented. I first saw Tyler Hoechlin's Superman in Crisis on Infinite Earths and was completely blown away by how good his Superman was in a way I thought was long gone in the Henry Cavil era.
Hopefully you have gone back to see Supergirl S2E1 where this Superman is finally introduced to the fans of the show. I thought that was a good episode(s) that gave us more of the fun-loving Superman.
Honestly the opening of the pilot of Superman and Lois is the best and purest version of Superman we've gotten in a long time! The show isn't afraid to embrace who Superman, and by extension Clark, truly is
What I like about the show is that the focus is on Clark’s struggles. Being Superman and saving the world? That’s easy. Clark Kent the father of 2 teen sons? That’s weird. That’s different. That’s the unknown. It’s very similar to how people still consider the Toby Maguire Spider-Man films the best Spider-Man films. The most important aspect, I think, that makes Spider-Man and especially Peter Parker’s Spider-Man work is how much being Spider-Man screws up his life. But he does it anyway because “with great power comes great responsibility.” The interesting part of that is that his powers aren’t all he great. If you look at what he does he’s somewhere between a high C and a solid B. But what makes him so appealing is his struggles. Some characters have to deal with being a monster, or stoping an evil megalomaniac. The vast majority of what he deals with is bank robbers, dropping out of school because of superheroing and paying rent. It’s that connecting fiber that makes readers relate to Spider-Man. And really, all of the Spider-People’s lives suck and yet they choose to be Their universes’ Spider. So, what do all the super powers in the world not prepare Clark Kent for? Being a dad. There is really nothing that can prepare you for that. That’s interesting and relatable and makes Superman human. He’s just Clark Kent.
I think Tobey Maguire's Spider-Man is under-estimated. Tobey is a wonderful Spider-Man because Tobey is a wonderful Peter Parker and makes the character and his alter-ego indelible.
💯🎯 Your video and description is the BEST yet of what has been lacking in ALL the latest versions of Superman !
Not a fan of the CW Universe and also not a big DC fan, but Superman and Lois hooked me pretty much with the first episode, it's a good show
Superman and Lois is the best Arrowverse show, change my mind
The Flash is though
@MrDheer The Flash has been declining since season 3, now it’s just unwatchable
@@tomlawal7991 the new episodes are good
Three words: Legends of Tomorrow
stargirl is right behind
I gave up on the CWVerse years ago but then I watched the pilot of this show and was shocked, it is my favorite live action take on the character since Lois and Clark and even seems to take some ques from one of my favorite runs of the comics, Peter J. Tomasi's Rebirth run, and it has saved the character for me.
I hope they keep up the amazing work in season 2.
YES I absolutely feel the same way. I was a doe hard Flash and Legends fan for a while but both shows have kind of run their course I feel. Until S&L came out I stopped watching all the shows completely.
@@ther3aper561 those shows were great but now they kinda felt a little boring.. (but i still watch them anyway)
i would say the only good parts out of all the 3 main ones are:
Flash season 1,2,4,6a
Arrow season 1,2,,5,7a,8
Legends season 2,3,5
Those are all the good seasons
@@thomaspanditfan2435 i think all season 1 of the shows are great but then they got worse every season..
@@riduanaqil1452 Supergirl start was meh then improved then got to a point after a season of superman as a character that it became unwatchable.
ALSO I Wish Gotham had connected to CW verse. It was a beautiful show!
Salute to the fight scenes and super-speed effects in this show too. It's incredible whenever he leaves somewhere. Most convincing super speed I think I've ever seen.
WOW, what an amazing video, you nailed it! What makes Superman so super is that he has a good heart, that should never be diminished
that "thanks, my mom made it for me!" line made me somehow fall in love with Tyler Hoechlin even more; I can't believe he was also Derek Hale
I'll admit, he DOES NOT radiate "nerd on one side, man who can bench press the sun on the other" energy, but that line was so perfectly Superman, I'm gonna check this show out, and hopefully it's not another CW shitfest!
@@FalonGrey It isn't. You can tell immediately that they sank more money and passion into it than the other shows.
@@FalonGrey i would advise see elseworlds and some of the superman scenes in crisis as they kind of set this up.
I miss him as Derek! 😭
The line was a tip of the cape to 'Lois and Clark-TNAOS', Dean Cain said it first
First season of Superman & Lois was really good. Acting, writing and cinematography I've really loved. Hopefully they can keep it up for season 2 and looking forward to seeing more of it when it comes back next year.
Knowing CWs track record, I can really put an emphasis on *hope*
Trust me it'll start becoming ridiculous after 3-4 seasons.
@@livingashtree1942 Yep. With the CW you can enjoy a season or two. That’s about it.
I'm pretty sure HBO is doing most of the work and it just airs on the CW
I got a little teared up watching this. Great video.
For me the "I'm not ready for this" gets me everytime
THANK YOU!!! I have not been able to put into words how I feel about Superman. And now I can share this. Great video essay dude.
Superman true power is “kindness” yes indeed I never was a fan of superman because I thought well he is your “basic traditional superhero with strong arms and lasers” while i loved the flash (barry allen ) because he had more personality to him which made me empathize with him yet recently because of this cw show I truly began to understand the man behind the super cape . 🙌🏻
if you read the comic you will see superman is a lot more complicated than what people normally think. The reason why superman is viewed as boring and bland, is because recent mass media betrayals of him in the last 20 years has been boring and bland.
In the search to evolve superman, people forget who the original character represents. Lots of time change is good, like Frank Miller's Batman and MCU's Iron Man, but it doesn't apply to everything.
@@Quang1999 exactly that what i meant to say as someone who didn’t read comics superman was just way “basic superhero” now as I’m more into the character I’m trying to change my view on him 🙌🏻
@@Quang1999 someone that knows something about Supes and just doesnt follow bogus narratives
wtf hell no that's the cheesiest shit ever
the problem is cavil is a horrible written superman .he has no character or any personalities. just a bland dull prop
Never seen CW Superman and Lois, this video makes me want to watch it.
It's totally worth it 😊
Same
i would advise you to watch elseworlds and some of the scenes of superman in crisis, as that kind of sets up this show.
@@thomaspanditfan2435 Thank you
You will not regret it.
Superman is so amazing and great video man :]
In truth, I think the CW/WB did this _very_ well 10 years prior to _Superman & Lois_ with their first version, _Smallville._ Why did that succeed for a decade? Because while it _did_ bring in the big drama, the stupendous action and the otherworldly elements, at it's heart, that show was driven by *characters* and *internal conflicts.* It was _Clark Kent's_ story, as he grew _into_ being a hero, and _how_ he learned that was by the very _human_ issues he had to pass through with friends, family, and foes. _Superman & Lois_ is a pretty good follow up because it takes a lot of the humanity cues from its "Big Brother" show.
*Supermans true power is his kindness and any adaptation that forgets that isn't really doing superman justice*
Period
summed up everything
What's beautiful about Superman and Lois is that it has so much genuine emotion and HEART. It's sincere and relatable.
They understood that the moraly gray character, tough choices, dark themes, should be for Batman, because Superman is the opposite, he is optimistic, naive, has really that boy scout feel, like a kid in a man's body, and always trys to see the best in people, that's how his character should be portraid. I like Henry Cavill as Superman but the way Znyder wanted his character to be is NOT the true essence of Superman, that's why MoS is terrible.
I don't see how Superman is morally gray in Man of Steel.
I wouldn't say he's naive, just optimistic. But yeah everything else you said is right.
How is the character not truly Superman in MoS?
I feel like besides this. Goku is the best portrayal of Superman we will get
@@NCBCSPRINGRETREAT he just doesn’t feel like Superman. Superman is the most human among humans even though he’s a alien. The DCEU Superman is a reluctant superhero he’s unsure if he should even be Superman and that is out of character for superman. Superman does what he can and help who he can he was raised by humans and they raised him to help other people. Superman would have never let his dad die like he did in MOS and he would never second guess wether he should help people or not he would help them even if they hated him because he is simply the best and the most human among humans.
“Superman’s true power is his kindest.” THIS is why he’s my favorite cinnamon roll 💓💓💓
I am so happy this show is getting so much attention because it means Warner will finally listen and do more Superman stories like this on the big screen
I really enjoyed your video. It made me want to watch superman and lois. Even smallville hit some of the notes you spike off in earlier seasons. But that was so long ago. Very rarely does a video get me excited. GREAT JOB
This is just brilliant , you’ve made me remember what was the best thing about superman thanks 🙏
Superman and Lois is my favorite CW show next to Stargirl
Great show
@@suzygirl1843 True but Superman is supposed to represent the best of humanity and not average people.
I LOVE STARGIRL! Fantastic show!
Stargirl was so much fun, and my favourite part was how she bonded with her stepfather, it was just lovely.
@@minerpvpgaming2160 he can represent the best of what is possible to the average Joe...
Don't make him into Jesus , make him just a good man.
Like Spiderman... Peter gets mad and makes terrible mistakes , but he is still a good person . Yet never goes into the "i am such a good and loving guy" trope
Some of the best things in the show that really sells it is when Clark runs off to solve some minor problem in some far off corner of the world, like a bridge falling or a bank robbery in Mexico. Clark knows that these areas don't have their own local superheroes so he'll swoop in for a bit and make sure that they know someone is looking out for them. Also, the "I speak all languages" bit is also fantastic for the same reasons.
"Darkness and gritiness... is simply not who Superman is." THANK YOU for saying this. It's exactly why I hated "Man of Steel" despite Supes being my favourite hero. His greatest strength (and weakness) has always been his humanity.
Man of Steel is what a dark and gritty movie is these days?
How was Man of Steel dark and gritty?
Today only i have watched the 13th episode of the new series and waiting for the upcoming... It's such a fresh take on the superman franchise specially the family and work part
I love their dynamic, I've never seen something so realistic in a show about superheroes
It's pretty good!
@@spooderman6312 exactly Lois and Clark's relationship is so mature and so refreshing to actually see them talk out their problems and come up with a compromise
@@yaswante4105 meanwhile in the other shows, the other couples are immature and act like teenagers.
"Superman's power isn't being able to leap a building in a single bound or run faster than a locomotive, it's remembering his past. It's the fact that he's a good person."
I once heard it framed like this: "If you focus on the 'super', you will never see the 'man'."
Superman is my all time favorite superhero and over all mythology. That being said, I must also say, I LOVE Man of Steel and BvS.
That's why I like the Richard Donner Superman movies because the director captured the essence of the character and Christopher Reeves did an excellent job portraying the Man of Steel.
While Henry Cavill is absolutely a great Superman, Tyler Hoechlin is a great Clark Kent. And I feel a lot of movies try so hard to figure out how to make a good Superhero movie, they fail at making the character under the suit compelling. Thats why 'most' of wonder woman was so good. They made Diana a great and compelling character. And thats why, to me, Tyler Hoechlin is absolutely my favorite Clark/Superman.
Henry cavill could've been a great Clark Kent if given the opportunity, but Clark isn't in the Snyder movies at all
I think you nailed it. Tyler is absolutely a great Clark. Tom Welling saved the character into the 21st century, but Tyler was able to integrate the innate goodness of Clark with the uniform of Kal-El.
No, Henry Cavill is a creepy Superman.
@@radhiadeedou8286 Its all he is in Snyder's movies. From his childhood, to his adulthood, to his reporter days. He identifies Earth as his home, spent most of his life among humans rather than in an ice fortress and his memories are fully brought back by hugging his family in his childhood home. Hes more Clark than Kal.
@@radhiadeedou8286 so you just didn't watch half of MoS, BvS and the backend of justice league?
Ever since the dc comic run where he was married to Lois and had his son Jon
I knew the best version of Superman today would be a hero who is also a family man doing his best for his family
I have always advocated that there is no need to make him dark and edgy to be relatable. If you'd allow superman to marry and have a family, it would give him real personal stakes and make him relatable.
@@keiichimorisato98 exactly.
@@keiichimorisato98 even with the introduction of Jon, there are still (in your words) "dark" storylines for Supes and him. Example: Supes being killed by his son.
@@TheMassiveGamer yeah, but the point is that you don't have to turn Superman/Clark evil to do it.
@@keiichimorisato98 And even if you *do* introduce evil Supes... Introducing him as an evil or even morally questionable character doesn't seem like the smartest way to do that kind of arc, as viewers shouldn't have to sit through 3 movies to understand how he became so dark
Tom Welling will always be my Clark Kent from Smallville. But I absolutely love Superman and Lois as well. I don't think Henry Cavil got a fair shake. He worked with what he had and it's not his fault.
great short doc and thoughts on tyler as superman and superman as a whole, I once didn't care for superman much as i thought he was way over powered as you showed in all the other ones that didn't get it either, but tyler just embodies it so well., doesn't hurt he also naturally looks like him, and from what i hear really is like him too., this superman is the one i will remember and love for all times, since it's showing all aspects, making me root for him for once. you hit on all the notes that i was thinking of and couldn't say, I really wished we would have gotten him on the big screen as this but alas tyler is not doing it, since he really wishes the best for the others too.
Superman and Lois make us see superman as a human not a god
But superman is technically godlike in the comics.
@Andrew D. Ironically, Snyder focused on the bad society against superman. And you are one of the example of a bad society person pretending to be good at superman just because he have power.
@@kartikadewi3270 wtf you talking about? He was speaking to Superman’s humanity, not his power. Please, take a seat.
@@popgeek42 seriously humanity can gain power and that power is a choice you get from humanity.
the show also uses its time well. like he is such a hard character to make a threat for so it is normally wrapped up quick. in the show, they split the time with him and Lois very well. Plus the actors all nail their roles
My favorite moment in the show is when he gets his mind taken over and fully lets go… and enjoys it, when the dust settles and he comes to he has to grapple with the fact that he enjoyed it and how that affects him is remarkable
Just started the show! I'm eight minutes in, and it's already fantastic. Thank you for the great recommendation. :)
My family and I have been keeping up with the show, and I gotta say, it is by far one of the best DC tv shows in YEARS. It is just so good, and everything you said here is exactly what we've been thinking as well. I'm really happy with it. Superman is just so hopeful.
ok years is a bit of a stretch. legends is still going strong and arrow did end on a high note.
I mean supergirl is known for being a bad show. It's just makes no sense
@@lisa.222 while I don't like the show itself, I do like the characters from it. Kara, Winn and martian manhunter are my favourites. These 3 are bloody wonderful in all the crossover episodes.
IM FANGIRLING😭🤚🏼 IM GLAD YOU WATCHED IT BECAUSE THIS SHOW IS BEAUTIFUL 😭
I love that this show shows that Superman was born a kryptonian but was raised a human
That opening ambience soundtrack though..... angelic 😇😇😇😇. Especially when he was levitating with Lois..... oh God.... romance in the clouds. Nothing but clouds as far as the eyes can see 🥺🥺🥺. That was beautiful.
The personality driven aspect of this show really reminds me of The Adventures of Lois and Clark. Which has my absolute favourite Superman.
Can I just say though? The guy who played Superman in Lois & Clark looks like a cosplayer. And I’m not just talking about the crappy costume. He legitimately does not look like Superman at all.
I loved Lois and Clark, well at least the Lois part of it. Teri Hatcher will always be my favourite Lois.
I like the way the show subverts expectation by going against the overly done deconstruction of the character, using the evil Superman trope to make a point as to why good Superman works just fine.
I’ll admit I was one of those fans that hated the fact the Superman didn’t throw a single punch in Superman Returns. He fights in the comics all the time. Especially with other super beings. It’s awesome!! So when we got MOS I was beside myself with the battles but then I bite off more than I could chew because hundreds buildings started toppling and then Superman snapped Zod’s neck. And I was like this is too much.
While it was nice to finally see what a gritty and battle heavy Superman looked like I felt it went too far at that end that it lost the core of Superman. I guess in a way we we’re meant to get this evil alien looking Snyder Superman in order to see what we really appreciate.
The classic values of Superman could never be outdated. It’s us the humans that lose sight of what we want and need in our lives. It’s a process. Sometimes we need to go dark to see the light again.
Wow... hearing that line about his suit out of an on-screen adaption of Superman, has the be the biggest smile I've ever pulled watching Superman media... 🙂
I finally finished Superman & Lois today and it was an amazing season and probably my favorite onscreen Superman to date. they really did the character justice and I can't wait to see what they do in season 2. Great video, man.
I think the real tragedy of Man of Steel and Batman V. Superman is that it completely wasted Henry Cavil. When he's in interviews and flashing that confident and gleeful grin I see Superman and when I hear about him missing the call from Zack Snyder telling him he got the role from for Man of Steel cuz he was in the middle of playing World of Warcraft I see Clark Kent, at the end of the day It's the writing and the script that falls so astronomically short, it was never the Actor
Bvs was an absolute flop... I was so disappointed they tried fitting multiple comic storylines into one movie just to catch up w/ marvel. Worst decision ever
@@gavinclements482 Yeah Lex Luthor didn't have to be there. Batman and Superman already had a good conflict. Lex was just there to create Doomsday so they can shortcut the team-up. It's a very obvious business decision instead of a creative decision.
I actually lost faith on CW after all the fails with Supergirl and Flash, but, this is something else.....
This is quality, the Superman we didn't even know we wanted but we definitelly needed, he is the real image of what Superman should be and not a guy who is only full of problems and pain (I love Cavill but I don't really completelly like the turn that Zack gave him, like always waiting for him to turn into a villain). Thank God HBO is part of this, this is one of my favorites shows ever
it's nice to see a good person version of superman for a change. I am tired of evil superman
Agreed. This and the Snyder Cut is refreshing for portraying the good Superman. Evil Supermen like Homelander, Omni-Man and Brightburn are played out.
Unpopular opinion: I love both Henry Cavil and Tyler Hoechlin’s portrayal of Clark Kent/Kal-El/Superman
Snyderverse Clark is fine and his relationship with Lois (One of the main things I cared Superman) is Great. the Main Problem unlike with Tyler's Superman is Synder main problems with Superheroes Films is that he doesn't understand Superman if's that make any sense lol. it's the same problem with SynderVerse Wonder Woman and Batman.
that's definetly a unpopular opinion...
Is like saying "i love cheesecake and also mayonaise on pizza"
@@Spidervenom23 He really does understand superman but he understands him in a way that makes him want to do something different with him to become superman.
@@shevthegreb757 except no he doesn't. He understand New-52 Superman who was basically Batman with Superman powers but that's not Superman lol. Look at Tyler's Superman for a example. That's a Superman that is base of Hope and Light while Synder's Superman isn't. It's odd cause he has a Decent Clark Kent but the only thing that Synder's Superman is missing is Superman.
@@Spidervenom23 You can't just be born with hope and light, you have to feel like you want to be that. Snyder's superman is in a world where people shame him for trying to help out. He can't be hopeful when a crazy bat is trying to kill him. Heck even the DCAU superman was dark at times because superman is a MAN and a man has his moments of anger and moments of sadness because that is what superman is, human.
The way hes explained by average superman enjoyers is that he has to always smile and if he doesn't then he isn't human.
Boy oh boy, did you hit the nail on the head. I think Tyler's perfect narration in the opening sequence really put the emphasis on the human side of Clark--his upbringing, his love of his family and hometown, his hope--and it's a great reminder why a lot of people still love the character to this day. Superman and Lois has been one of the best pilots I've seen in a while, and with two episodes to go, a very strong freshman show.
5 minutes of Superman & Louis had me hooked.
The Original Superman & Louis also worked. It was in a different age, but it's the blueprint for this one. Far more simple, because it was long ago. One can even portray Supermal loneliness, but only if it's bonded to deep gratitude for being alive. It's interesting because, in The Men of Steel, Jor-El tells his song what his presence on the Earth will mean to humans: inspiration. Even so, the Superman of the man of Steel continues to be bitter and loves Louis and his mother only.
As someone who's been a fan of Tyler for the past DECADE (since DAY ONE of Teen Wolf), I can't even begin to describe how happy seeing all this love and appreciation for his version of the character makes me. The day he was cast as the Man of Steel was truly one of the most exciting days of my life. I never could've pictured just how BEAUTIFULLY and PERFECTLY he would portray this iconic role.....but I knew he was going to be amazing.
Todd Helbing has talked a lot about how he writes this show from the angle of Clark Kent being the main character. Superman is just the alter ego. He's a small town guy with a wife he adores, kids he's incredibly proud of, parents he idolized and a VERY human desire to just be the best husband and dad he can be while also having these godlike powers. A burden, yes, but also a gift that he happily uses to help humanity. Because--as we've seen throughout the course of the season--humanity saved him. Love and compassion saved him. And they CONTINUE to save him. He wouldn't be Superman without the people he loves. And he knows that. And fights for that every time he puts on that cape.
Giving Superman a family and therefore forcing the focus to be on Clark--and the responsibility he has to that family as much as he does to the world--was an incredibly smart decision. We see the man behind the crest and we can connect with him on that deeply human level because (hopefully) we all have a Clark Kent in our lives. Someone who sees the best IN us....and someone who wants to be the best FOR us. No matter how hard that may be.
Finally someone who saw teen wolf in the comments, I just finished it a few days ago and it's so weird to see Tyler hoechlin as superman, he's still Derek for me so I think I'm gonna wait a little before I watch superman and Lois
@@radhiadeedou8286 Trust me when I say Tyler is a legit chameleon! Derek Hale was in my life for six beautiful years……and yet when I look at him in that flannel and in those glasses, all I see is Clark Kent. He completely disappears into the character. It is INCREDIBLE to watch! Enjoy whenever you decide to start watching! It is a REMARKABLE show!!!
Ahem day one of Tyler is 7th Heaven days! For a show that shoved purity culture down my throat, they had a lot of attractive actors.
@@lh9591 Never said “day one of Tyler”! Just “day one of Teen Wolf”.
😉 (Which is still crazily a whole-ass decade ago! 😆)
Sarah Sharpe 7th Heaven was years before Teen Wolf…
Enjoy seeing different takes of Superman. I'll always fundamentally understand what he personifies from the original comics. Doesn't mean I wouldn't appreciate seeing a more dark or gritty or light-hearted version of him.
I agree with you 100% because he's one of those characters that needs to have different tastes when it comes to live action he can't be the same every single time now while I find Snyder's take to be my favorite and his choice to try and give Superman an arc to where he would eventually become the Superman we all know I really do enjoy this show
@@angelvelazquez7932 thing is we didnt get that Superman
Angel Velazquez bro you’re braindead and know nothing about Superman if you think Snyder’s interpretation was good or even had potential to grow to be good. Literally spitting on the character
@@TrueGamer22887 eeeeh unless it was an elseworld Superman
@@itsjustvin7630 and that's fine every interpretation won't speak to everyone
Great video.
As a lifelong Superman geek, this hit the mark perfectly.
Hands down the best TV portrayal of Superman ever!!!!
The show's greatest strength is that they prove again and again that they 'get' Superman. This was obvious from the beginning, as you mentioned, but what really cemented it for me personally was his 'trust' speech in episode 6 or 7. He talks about how we has to prove over and over to people how good and trustworthy he is because every time he uses his god-like powers, it's a test of the public's trust of him. I'm paraphrasing it really poorly, but I remember that speech just landing really solidly for me as a viewer and fan.
"Evolution is key, revolution is where everything falls off the rails"
Nicely said.