I think your best bet is to take it apart. No different than pulling out any standard shift transmission. On the back of that engine, the clutch and all with the lever, I'm not 100% but I think it's called a PTO. I worked with a similar one on a Vermeer wood chipper. I'd check out that data tag/inspection cover and see if you can look up the make and model of that PTO. That might give you what you need to get your clutch adjusted up. Likely if clutch slipped and then the saw spun down and stopped but the engine was running she's probably smoked. Looks like it's seen plenty of use. Probably a good time to tear it off and get the clutch relined, get your surfaces like the pressure plate and flywheel re-faced, do the rear main seal on the engine. New throwout bearing too. Once you got it apart and really looking at it it's likely to come to you how to adjust it up and all.
I think that thing you're trying to chisel on used to be a bolt head type of thing to rotate the gear and turn the adjusting ring. You might try a brass punch right on the ring and see if you can get it to free up. I still think you're better to take it apart but it might work.
I just finished up down there and like you said here I was able to take a heavy punch and hammer that ring around a couple times. It rotated clockwise about a 1/2". I should take it all off and rebuild and will later. I sure thank ya for showing interest and helping
@@templehillsawmill1748 Gotcha. Does it feel like it'll engage? I've abused some clutches myself but they still ran for a while afterwards. The PTO on the Vermeer I worked on was kind of a pain to line up and stab in but I had great access. Rebuild is probably the way to go. Parts are getting tough to find, you might have to get creative. Should be kits to re-line that clutch plate instead of buying Chinese. If your throwout bearing feels good and you can grease it, run it. If your pressure plate and flywheel aren't all cracked from heat and grooved up, they'll probably be OK. Rear main seal on the crank though, that thing was probably in school with Moses.
Yes sir, I try to stay away from the Chinese mess too. There is a company here in the next city to me named Carolina Clutch that I had recover a clutch for me 25 or 30 yrs ago and sometime after that they relined brake shoes for an antique truck one time. I bet they can reline this to.And some ole fella gave me a name and number of a business in PA that sells parts for the Detroits that he uses. But hopefully I can get my buddy to come over in a day or two and see if we can cut about eight logs and see how things are running here. I sure do thank you and everyone else @@heliarche
I have done a little research and a lot of people recommend possibly adjusting the clutch, i hear it’s similar to one on a big rig! Hopefully that helps ps I don’t know much about a sawmill but I’ll gladly try to help around!
I appreciate it. A comment below says what video of Mike's that shows him adjusting the clutch. I'll try tomorrow. Thank you very much. I'll keep everyone posted
Hold the clutch down. Pry the ring back with flat head and turn with rachet at the same time. Clutch is adjusted at 1/2" free play travel while operating clutch
I'll be dang! How'd you remember where that was? I watched it just now. Seeing what he and Ms. McCoy did there I it ain't nothing. I'm going try it tomorrow. Thank you for your help.
No problem. I watch Mike's videos all the time, just rembered seeing this one last week. Might also try giving a shout out to Wayne's World Garage, he's posts every Wednesday night, he is very knowlegable in engine repair and might have some thoughts for you. Happy sawing.@@templehillsawmill1748
Yes mam my neighbor has trucks and does most of his own work and he has offered to take a look at it. It's adjusted now and if nothing goes wrong I'll be cutting inch boards this afternoon, Saturday, and I have a friend who can help saw to. So if I can video us I'll post it tonight. And I sure do appreciate you watching and commenting. God bless
I 😊😊 would try 2 long handle flat head screw drivers get behind it I think 🤔😊 it's a washer and see if U can pry it out or move U may have 2 use some spray oil or some heat I don't know if that pin got hot or not or no 1 hasn't worked on the clutch in a long time the next thing I would try see if U can loosen that bolt 🔩 at all there's still has 2 be some 1 who still works on those clutches 😊😊OMG 12 8 2O23
I've got good news! It's adjusted. I cut some after tightening it up. I want to cut some tomorrow and I'll video it. I've got a good friend going to help. I really do appreciate you watching and taking interest in commenting trying to lend me a hand. God bless
It's tight now! If nothing goes wrong a fella is going help tomorrow and we will cut some inch boards and video it to. I sure do appreciate you watching. God bless
If I'm not mistaken, that is a bolt you are chiseling on. It looks like Mike rounded off the bolt head. The bolt just locks the adjuster ring in place.
I'm about sure we just figured out that bolt thing I was concentrated on isn't relevant at all. And it's looking like I'm out of adjustment and will need to replace the clutch. I'll do another video after I get it going. I really appreciate your help. Thank you
I think your best bet is to take it apart. No different than pulling out any standard shift transmission.
On the back of that engine, the clutch and all with the lever, I'm not 100% but I think it's called a PTO. I worked with a similar one on a Vermeer wood chipper. I'd check out that data tag/inspection cover and see if you can look up the make and model of that PTO. That might give you what you need to get your clutch adjusted up. Likely if clutch slipped and then the saw spun down and stopped but the engine was running she's probably smoked. Looks like it's seen plenty of use. Probably a good time to tear it off and get the clutch relined, get your surfaces like the pressure plate and flywheel re-faced, do the rear main seal on the engine. New throwout bearing too. Once you got it apart and really looking at it it's likely to come to you how to adjust it up and all.
Thanks for watching and commenting
I think that thing you're trying to chisel on used to be a bolt head type of thing to rotate the gear and turn the adjusting ring. You might try a brass punch right on the ring and see if you can get it to free up. I still think you're better to take it apart but it might work.
I just finished up down there and like you said here I was able to take a heavy punch and hammer that ring around a couple times. It rotated clockwise about a 1/2". I should take it all off and rebuild and will later. I sure thank ya for showing interest and helping
@@templehillsawmill1748 Gotcha. Does it feel like it'll engage? I've abused some clutches myself but they still ran for a while afterwards. The PTO on the Vermeer I worked on was kind of a pain to line up and stab in but I had great access. Rebuild is probably the way to go. Parts are getting tough to find, you might have to get creative. Should be kits to re-line that clutch plate instead of buying Chinese. If your throwout bearing feels good and you can grease it, run it. If your pressure plate and flywheel aren't all cracked from heat and grooved up, they'll probably be OK. Rear main seal on the crank though, that thing was probably in school with Moses.
Yes sir, I try to stay away from the Chinese mess too. There is a company here in the next city to me named Carolina Clutch that I had recover a clutch for me 25 or 30 yrs ago and sometime after that they relined brake shoes for an antique truck one time. I bet they can reline this to.And some ole fella gave me a name and number of a business in PA that sells parts for the Detroits that he uses. But hopefully I can get my buddy to come over in a day or two and see if we can cut about eight logs and see how things are running here. I sure do thank you and everyone else
@@heliarche
I have done a little research and a lot of people recommend possibly adjusting the clutch, i hear it’s similar to one on a big rig! Hopefully that helps ps I don’t know much about a sawmill but I’ll gladly try to help around!
I appreciate it. A comment below says what video of Mike's that shows him adjusting the clutch. I'll try tomorrow. Thank you very much. I'll keep everyone posted
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Hold the clutch down. Pry the ring back with flat head and turn with rachet at the same time. Clutch is adjusted at 1/2" free play travel while operating clutch
Spray it with PB Blaster. First. Then do what I said before.
I sure do appreciate it. I got suckered in that dang pin from the second I saw it for nearly two months now. I sure do thank ya
Found Mike McCoy’s video for you, look three yrs ago, it’s called Huge white spruce slabs
I'll be dang! How'd you remember where that was? I watched it just now. Seeing what he and Ms. McCoy did there I it ain't nothing. I'm going try it tomorrow. Thank you for your help.
No problem. I watch Mike's videos all the time, just rembered seeing this one last week. Might also try giving a shout out to Wayne's World Garage, he's posts every Wednesday night, he is very knowlegable in engine repair and might have some thoughts for you. Happy sawing.@@templehillsawmill1748
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I've seen that same video of Mike adjusting the clutch. It adjust like the clutch adjusting ring on a big truck but can be aggravating
Yep. I just watched it thanks to a comment in here. It's looking like I may be out of adjustment. But I'll see tomorrow. Thank you
Get a truck mechanic they know how to adjust it and troubleshoot it.
Yes mam my neighbor has trucks and does most of his own work and he has offered to take a look at it. It's adjusted now and if nothing goes wrong I'll be cutting inch boards this afternoon, Saturday, and I have a friend who can help saw to. So if I can video us I'll post it tonight. And I sure do appreciate you watching and commenting. God bless
I 😊😊 would try 2 long handle flat head screw drivers get behind it I think 🤔😊 it's a washer and see if U can pry it out or move U may have 2 use some spray oil or some heat I don't know if that pin got hot or not or no 1 hasn't worked on the clutch in a long time the next thing I would try see if U can loosen that bolt 🔩 at all there's still has 2 be some 1 who still works on those clutches 😊😊OMG 12 8 2O23
I've got good news! It's adjusted. I cut some after tightening it up. I want to cut some tomorrow and I'll video it. I've got a good friend going to help. I really do appreciate you watching and taking interest in commenting trying to lend me a hand. God bless
Try to see if that bolt won't push in and take a wrench and turn may be spring loaded
I was able to rotate that ring and not even mind that pin. It doesn't do anything.
Put it in Neutral
It's tight now! If nothing goes wrong a fella is going help tomorrow and we will cut some inch boards and video it to. I sure do appreciate you watching. God bless
PS- did you try disengaging the clutch and then try to move the adjuster ? JG
If I'm not mistaken, that is a bolt you are chiseling on. It looks like Mike rounded off the bolt head. The bolt just locks the adjuster ring in place.
I'm about sure we just figured out that bolt thing I was concentrated on isn't relevant at all. And it's looking like I'm out of adjustment and will need to replace the clutch. I'll do another video after I get it going. I really appreciate your help. Thank you
hi there wish i could help . john
Thanks John. From all the help I've got so far it is looking like I may need to replace the clutch
Jackerup and drive a new one under it!
I beleive I got her tightened up. Gonna cut some on Saturday. I sure do appreciate you watching
Release the clutch the pin will come out .
I'm fairly certain I got it adjusted finally! Wanting to cut tomorrow and will video it. I sure do appreciate you watching. God bless
film it when you get the answer.
Certainly will. Hopefully this evening when I get back home. Thanks for watching
Wish I could help but maybe one of the other viewers will help
I sure do appreciate it. I think I have gotten some good help thru the comments and a fella by phone call. Thank you