Mark Martin Has a Strong Opinion on the Current State of NASCAR!
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- Опубліковано 7 вер 2024
- Kenny Wallace discusses the state of NASCAR with Hall of Famer Mark Martin.
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Huge FAN of Mark Martin. Anyone who knows NASCAR knows the respect other drivers have for Mark. You really made my day with this interview because everyone should know what a good person and great driver Mark Martin was and is.
He may have been a ok driver but Mark Martin was not good enough to beat the best driver Dale Earnhardt for a championship
He did beat him and every sane nascar fan knows it.
@@richardboggs260 he's been gone for close to a quarter of a century. You can stop riding his nuts now. It'll be ok.
@@michaelmcchesney6904 he has no hardware he never defeated Earnhardt
@@richardboggs260Even Dale said the penalty Mark received was BS. Those penalty points were the difference to a Championship. But you are correct, it doesn't matter, no hardware for Martin.
Interesting, my wife and I were at the Phoenix race that year, watched Dale win and saw Martin drop the points lead that race as well.
Those days were awesome, everyone of my all time favorite drivers, all on the same track!
Mark Martin....my favorite drive of all time. Class personified.
Mark Martin is my favorite Driver of all time. Dude is an honest Legend.
I always loved the way Mark race and he is definitely a class act ! Great interview Herm!
mark martin is one of the GOATs of NASCAR. I love that mans demeanor, no nonsense kind of guy.
The only people NASCAR listens to are the TV Networks, which is a really big issue in and of itself. This has also led us right into the thick of a lot of the current problems. NASCAR wants an entertainment package that can be pitched to a network for billions of dollars. Most fans, teams, and drivers want a safe, raceable package that has some degree of gray area to be their sandbox. Sometimes these agendas align, sometimes they don't.
I tune in (for over 40 years) to see a RACE, not a SHOW. I think there are a helluva lot of people just like me that are about to the end of the line with NASCAR.
Well, that the power in NASCAR went from Daytona/Charlotte to NYC happened about 2000.
Have not watched in 5 years. I watch Kenny and Jr for the stories. The racing may be better. But the way the drivers are marketed and the fucking stupid stages. Ruin anything they have..... Why the hell do you re rack a damn race 2 times.... Stupid as shit
@@geek49203 and that’s when the series started going downhill and losing fans.
@@meachster4316 And don't forget that Winston stopped pumping billions into the thing
And Nacrap sided with the left and brought pc and politics into the sport...
It started with not being able to fly the stars and bars at the tracks to the Bubba noose hoax...
Nascrap didn't walk it back and neither did Bubba....Let's just go with weather....
This guy lost a Championship because of a penalty. He knows of what he speaks.
Lost it from a race that happen the 2nd race of the year, they went back the last race thst year
He could have won many championships, if he wasn't so cautious.
A penalty that Earnhardt didn't get later in the year I believe too
I sat on the finish line at Daytona when he was robbed by giving Harvick the win in the 500 too!
I love listening Mark. He's a class act and always informative.
Yeah always loved Mark.
Herman, could you reach out to Carl Edwards to see if he would come on your show? I always liked Carl & he was/is a heck of a racecar driver. Would be great to hear how he's been & what he's been up to.
Thanks & have a great weekend!
Love Mark.♥️👍 Great racer. Great person. Thanks for sharing all these great interviews with us Kenny.
I disagree on the good racing part of this new car. I think the racing is more aggressive, which CAN be more exciting for viewers.. BUT, the car being as tough as it is takes away the risk of self inflicted damage when bumping. We need that concern, because its the only thing that keeps these drivers from constantly dive bombing their competition.
Great point
Tech inspections are terrible. Legalized sports betting has ruined all facests of organized competition.
Mark is one of the greatest drivers of all time. Great interview. You guys are both missed today. My wife and I meet both of you at Mark Martin Ford in Batesville. Back when they had that event in the spring 2007. ❤ U guys both. YOUR OPINION DOES MATTER. Words from the great ones Thanks for your time
The only reason I am still watching NASCAR is to see retired guys on TV and hear on radio as well being a occasional guest like Mark is on your podcast. While the racing is better than the COT, it has become sportscar IROC. I agree with Mark, DIRT IS WHERE IT IS AT!! I work on and help with several dirt vintage cars in my area and it is so cool to see the old iron on the track! Love the channel Herm.
Well said.
Mark Martin=legend. What a guy!
That interview was like two old friends talking ! I was a fan of mark Martin back in is racing days and I am still a fan of his to this day
I miss Mark and his skills. He is a nascar great , He has integrity in my book.
If the racing with the new cars is so great, why are the stands at EVERY track so empty?
dumb playoffs, dumb stage racing, a dopey championship race and the stupidest thing in all of sports win and your in, the fans missing are all the fans that hate all of what NASCAR has done to the series
There's several reasons. A lot of the issues are more just front office nonsense. Car does need some tweaks too though.
There's also not enough "spectacle" around the events. I think there's too many and they needt o cut the schedule back. That's just be though.
Why y'all so invested about the attendance huh look at IndyCar they have lower attendance yet they still have good racing and also look back in 2011 at Dover it was the same as today so get off the nostalgia drugs and look at reality old hag.
No one can relate to the driver's. The racing is factually better.
That's an easy answer. There's one and only reason, the FUN has been taken out of nascar and other series. Just listen to the announcers from 10-30 years ago compared to today. The excitement and enjoyment is no longer there. Who wants to pay for a seat in the stands when everything that we loved has been stripped away for one reason or another. It's sad that it's come to this. Every new rule or regulation takes away a little bit more of why people used to fill up the stands.
I love you Mark Martin, but I think you are way off as far as the how good the racing and competition is! Glad to see your doing well and still keeping track of what’s going on. Thank you.
i agree with you... the racing is in fact not racing... bring the caution out with ten to go every race and all they have is a demolition derby until the end.. im all for rubbins racing, but this shitshow has gotten ridiculous
Cookie cutter cars where every car is basically the same ~ Boring
Excellent back and forth from real stock car pilots . Thanks to both of you .
Really enjoyed this interview. Mark is so classy and candid at the same time!
Highly respect Martin as a true racer. He would race you fair and square and if he beat you there would be no paint being swapped.
Great interview! I agree with Mark but do have a question... Do you think what is hurting NASCAR isn't the car or the product but rather NASCAR constantly trying to reinvent itself with gimmicky race layouts/formats and constant schedule changes?
For instance, we used to know that the Bristol races were the first Sunday in April and last Saturday in August, etc.
Fans scheduled their vacations around the NASCAR schedule but not so much in today's world. I think NASCAR may be hurting its attendance revenue by not having a set schedule which potentially keeps core fans from attending.
Ding ding ding 🥇 been saying that for 10 years!!
What happened to the Brickyard 400? Dirt at Bristol is not gaining traction(pun intended)! Races starting later in the day, daytona 500 ending at night now. I used to go to Poconos 2 times every year, that is gone!
I think Nascar has ruined the schedule and the tracks!
"different day and age... embrace it" nailed it. It's as fair and as tight as ever. Let the best driver win.
Wow, as a fan of Mark Martin since he joined RR in the late 80's, I never thought I'd hear him "tow the party line" like he is doing today. I couldn't disagree with him more in his assessment of the state of NASCAR today. There is absolutely no way NASCAR is better today than it was in the 70's, 80's and 90's. How in the heck can he make such a comment? NASCAR has a stranglehold on everything from technology to drivers to changing the rules in the middle of the game. Mark and the "old school" drivers of yester-year were the reason I watched and enjoyed NASCAR so much but after losing Dale, Sr. NASCAR has been in a steady downward spiral which continues today. So sad that Mark can't see the forest for the trees. Once Mark retired, NASCAR has gone steadily downhill and I see nothing changing that unless there's a complete change of philosophy in how racing should be conducted. There's just no enjoyment watching this sorry excuse for racing today.
Best post I've read so far. I couldn't agree with you more.
Was never a huge nascar fan but, for the times I have entertained watching it, I truly enjoyed when Mark Martin was on the track. He and a few other notables through the years gave it it's true foundation. I understand it's a different era, yet it is lacking subsistence of core value.
How can NASCAR recover, if they don’t listen to drivers & fans?? That’s the life-blood of stock car racing, and they’re basically cutting off the stream that makes them stronger as a sport.
Mark, I respect your opinion, but it's not the cars it's the spoiled drivers that really gets under my skin. I did like the cars back in the 70s and 80s more then what we have now. I only wish those cars were as safe as today's cars are. No one wants to see someone get hurt or worse. One thing that I hate is wrecking someone to win. That's what I love Mark's driving style more then now, where if you can't pass him then wreck him.
I truly wish Mark would host the races,love his input and experience.I loved the days of him going toe to toe with Earnhardt Sr. Sorry Mark ,I do miss the”good old days”!
Great conversation. Made me think and give myself my own opinion while it went along. Much Appreciated. (Enjoyed it more then watching 40 identical cars go in a circle).
I apologize for being negative Kenny. I just mean, well, things change like Mr Mark Martin said. I believe it got out of hand with safety. They got lazy and instead of each car manufacturer coming up with there “Own” design (For safety #1 always), they (nascar) designed one car and said that’s it. Well you lost me at the presentation. You are a great racer Kenny. You do as much for the sport as the sport gives you.
Mark Martin is the best. Great show, Kenny. Great show!
These men made nascar what it was in their day! Loved watching these days of racing. Why can't these men be in charge of nascar now? These next gen cars got a long way to go to improve!
Mark is a classic example of NOT throwing away what is simply because it's not exactly what he wants.
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I slowly stopped watching NASCAR because I felt it had morphed into racing with IROC cars. I'm not complaining about it, I'm just sad that it happened.
I for one am a fan of nascar in its glory years mid 80s till early 2000s the best racing in my opinion. There might not of been 20 drivers that you would think had a realistic chance of winning week to week like you do today but you always had more underdogs that would come out of no were and get a win. Derrike cope at Daytona n Dover in 1990, lake speed winning Darlington in 88, Phil parsons winning talladega in 88, Bobby hillin in 86 at talladega. We don’t really have as much of the under dog drivers run good enough to win unless the main guys get taken out. I don’t just like the racing n how people handle themselves anymore. Never liked playoffs in racing but like Dale Jr said on his podcast the winner of the championship shouldn’t be decided by one race. There should be change were least those last 4 drivers have to run the last 3 races of the season against each other which would be more interesting then just one race. Maybe start the first round with 12 races left instead of 10 then after every 3 races 4 people get eliminated. I’m currently watching a race from 89 and I am enjoying that race more then anything I’ve watched today but we all have our taste and opinions and have no problem with anyone liking todays product it’s just not for me though.
Lol. You don’t like the product today, but you’re watching this youtube video? Oxymoronic post. Lol
@@Mortimuss i Watch cause i always been a fan of Kenny Wallace.
@@Mortimuss He gave an honest opinion. I too still watch but my days of watching are fast coming to an end. The Next Gen car is a huge part of that. We're all entitled to our opinions.
Start the elimination from dang near the beginning of the season. Working from 43 down until the last 3 or 4 at the end.
Next Gen needs tweaking, but it's better than Gen 6 550 package racing, by a mile. It has its flaws, but it's a net positive. Glad y'all agree it's a good car for competition.
Believe me, when he was a driver, I was far from a fan of him, but I will say, I have definitely had a greater appreciation for him, especially, given his driving style. I really wish that both you and Mark could have a stronger opinion when it comes to how business is done in NASCAR..... I love hearing these conversations, keep em coming!
One of the few drivers ever that could be called ‘an equipment saver’. … A car owners dream!
Always a big fan of MM. He was a fan favorite and appreciated those who really paid for him to race. The fans. Always available for fans. Only an honest racer meaning sayin' it as it is.
Mark is one of the best. Great Man.
Love your show! Glad to see Mark again!
Love the not overturning penalties point of view..Great Interview. Thanks for this!
From Arnold to Batesville. Thank you Kenny and everyone behind the scene.
Mark is the reason I became a NASCAR fan. I'll never forget how fun the sport is with him involved. NASCAR should listen to him like the fans do.
I am 63 and my mom set me in front of Wide World of Sports at 4 years old and have been a fan since. I was lucky enough to be involved with the sport in the 80’s and have missed maybe 20 races over all these years either live or on TV. The racing is by far the best it has ever been.
Mark is so right…dirt late models are truly the last racecars on Earth without overwritten rules packages. They’re pure racecars where modifications are allowed, but not too many. Love those things, always have
Was great to hear Mark's point of view! Too bad he isn't the competition director of NASCAR. Coming from the dirt tracks in NY, he's right about the rules being strict, and they are even trying to implement more rules even further from track to track.
The competition director doesn't make a lot of the rules
Good job Kenny, Mark is a hell of a great great guy. Big fan of both of you guys. Kenny, Mark brought good points about what has become what Nas Car is today. Good Job Guys! Would love to do more interviews like this. Peace out Guys
Thanks for the great interview Kenny! Mark is my favorite driver from the 1990's until he retired! My wife will tell you that I not only have 95% of all the cars he drove...Busch Series and the Cup series, and a rare truck series and I have them in gold plated and platinum plated, autographed hats, trading cards....and on and on!
I think the only part of the races I don't like is the " Stages " and Stage points. I think it's just a way for the advertisers to have built in breaks in the race.
I grew up in Dittmer and went every track in MO. State fair to Pevely. SCHRADER still turns the wheel . Thank you too Kenny for so much. You're a wheel man and an informer. I love the info and cherish that tie to HOME.
I'm not sure I've ever disagreed with ANYTHING I've ever heard Mark Martin say. So much respect for him. And I miss seeing him race.
Kenny, not so much.
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I'm kiddin', Herm. Love 'ya bro.
Mark Martin is a legend great video and keep up the good work God bless from GA stay safe
Totally agree with Mark Martin, the next gen car has provided some exciting racing. 2022 was the first time in years and years that Michigan had a battle for the win!!! Although the next gen car does need some improvements in terms of safety.
I love Mark Martin. He was my dads favorite driver. Him and Greg Biffle
Innovation suppose to be a good thing and MM is absolutely right there are just too many rules.
I always liked Mark Martin. Was sad to see him retire but I'm glad he's still around.
I do wish the next gen had more horsepower, something about them running basically wide open throttle at Las Vegas is weird to me. And I wish they'd do away with the points resets and scheduled cautions. And I have my nit picks with the car - having to cut holes in the windshield to keep from cooking the drivers is silly and needs to be fixed. But other than that I pretty much agree with Mark Martin (what kind of fool would disagree with one of the greatest of all time)...the next gen is some of the best racing we've seen in years.
I wish guys like both of you had more of an influence on nascar. I understand they have a job to do and there's alot more involved than most people think about.
Hey Benrossbach I mean no disrespect but I'm 73years old (on July of this year (2023)and I've been a big time Nascar fan for most of my life and Nascar wouldn't be having all of the problems they're having if Nascar Management types would grow some balls and start running Nascar the way it needs to be run just like Harvick, Hamlin, and others have recently said 😊😅😂❤😊
Hey Rossbach I agree that if Kenny and Mark were part of Nascar Management they would try to make sure Nascar Management started running Nascar the way it needs to be run 😊😮😂❤😊❤😂😊
Have to go back decades to get to the run what you brought, Hudson, Oldsmobile, Ford, Chevy. Today they are racing kit cars!!!
Mark and Kenny are 2 respected drivers of the past era and their voice carries weight. But pure NASCAR racing went out in 1988!! The restrictor plate!!
I have to agree with Mark. I think the new NASCAR rules have to be there because of the cheeting of the past. And now, the cars have become so technical. when it comes to Aero. Aero has become such a big part of racing there has to be tighter rules.
Nascar Demolition Derby needs a rule that if you are the cause of a wreck then you go to the rear. The smarter drivers will understand a rule like this and good clean racing will get better.
The new rules and regulations has killed innovation, invention, and progress forward. Once you tell everyone they have to be the exact same it kills the progression into the future. Until they revert we'll be stuck here. If anything they should have restricted the amount of money teams could speed per car. That way everyone is within the same amount of dollars but can spend it freely however they see fit.
No way to regulate spending. Regulating engineering is much realistic.
What a man. Saying he is old kind of tore me up.
Mark is such a treasure.
Thank you love 💘Mark Martin and Kenny you too... you guys rock great video...
I agree with mark. I thought the same way. I ain't the same as it was growing up. But now I'm back as a fan. The racing is tight and very competitive. I do feel as if nascar has hit the mute button on a lot of drivers and they don't get to show their true personalities. Which we need in the sport.
NASCAR celebrated it’s 75th anniversary at Road Atlanta and I was there to see it!!!!! There were multiple generations of NASCAR stock cars including Winston Cup, Nextel Cup, Sprint Cup, current Cup Series, and Craftsman Trucks!!!!
Can you have to much respect ? LoL definitely a class act. Thank you Mark for giving my father and I a connection. Sunday afternoons were my greatest memories of my father . He passed away in 2010 after witnessing mark's 2009 season. Wow what a season for martin fan's.
He's trying so hard not to be a grumpy old man. I love ya Mark, you'll always be a champ in my book
Thanks for a great conversation. Mark you skills, patience, humbleness, and honesty are why you are great! Thanks for all your contribution to stock car racing. I would have loved to watched you race in the 70s. I was fortunate enough to see you race in the BGN series at Orange County Speedway where you won in 1987. Been a big fan for a long time. Thank you Kenny for a great show!! Heluva great job man.
Was such a great conversation
I enjoy watching old nascar telecast on UA-cam. The cars,drivers and announcers is more exciting then the races today. The different cars makes. Cars that look different and not all the same. Remember the aero back Chevies and Pontiacs made to battle the Fords? It was just better racing back in the day. NASCAR has become IROC racing now.
An old fan and still think think he is great! Thanks for all those exciting years Mark!!
Didn't Mark lose the 1990 Winston Cup championship over a points penalty?
That's what he was talking about I think.
I have a mark Martin license plate on the front of my truck .great guy. Make nascar great again....
Huge huge fan of.mark martin the ppl that need to hear him needs to listen
If you take the stages and mysterious cautions away from these races the bitching and complaining will go away and the fans may or may not come back. It's not necessarily about the car.
MM is the type of driver we need today.
Mark Martin.... the only person I've ever admired. You couldn't ask for a better person to have your kids look up to.
So good! Can listen to Kenny and Mark talk for hours!!
Cant remember the track but i do remember Mark trying to get around Dale S.R for something like 60 laps. Mark had the better car that day but wouldn't use the bumper. Super classy guy.
GREAT perspective! I pretty much agree! Just tweek that car a bit, make it safer, give a bit more leeway to the teams NASCAR!
(raises hand) dirt late model is pure racing because the big bucks haven't infiltrated it yet. Every racing series ever has, at some point, collapsed due to cost and safety concerns.
Good to see Mark Martin. He was one of my favorites. Really sucked that year he was #2 in the championship.
Awesome man I have always loved Mark Martin he was a clean racer like you herm. Clay from mobile Alabama
I dare anyone to name a race where Mark Martin wrecked anyone. He was the most respected driver in the garage his whole career. Thank You Mark, I was and am still a fan. I think a lot more people listen to you than you think.
The racing is great. It really is. My opinion is irrelevant but, as a fan, seeing the late 90's races, and seeing races now, there are some things that could have stayed, and things were changed that needed to be changed. Now, i feel like nascar is onto something with making the cars as equal as possible, BECAUSE of the teams that dont have alot of money. And, these lower teams that had talented drivers, well, the talent is being able to be shown with these cars being equal. Its cool to see different drivers in the front. Refreshing, shoot, ams on sunday night, they were swapping the front positions all night, it was an awesome thing to see live, and they were boogying baby. But, at tracks that are not superspeedway style, open the engines back up to between 750 and 850 horsepower and keep the car shape and engine specs the same across the board. Itll have people needing handling adjustments again, you can have this while keeping the cars as equal as possible. We saw that in the 2013-2017 seasons. Some stuff has gotta come back though to keep the sport around. Inlove trying new tracks, going over seas to lemans, all the different things theyre trying there. Bit, some stuff didnt need to be messed with at all.
I would pose this question, are the cars being so similar eventually going to hurt the sport? When the superstars are gone because everyone is winning, how does that impact viewership?
The only question I have is why are stock cars not stock? That's for both asphalt and dirt. I thought the point of nascar was to showcase the cars at the dealership. I truly believe that competition is what kept cars getting better and better and since the 90s thats been missing from the automobile industry.
thanks mark for honest opinion enjoyed working with him at hendrick when he drove our 5 car. true champion
Great interview! I am new to watching your channel, fairly new to nascar(been about 10 years since I went to my first race in Phoenix , changed my world). Back in the nineties though, I went to my local track. Chris Ledoux actually borrowed our trailer for a stage. My uncle who sponsored a car, and a family friend Dirk Stephens was all there. I was in my early twenties, and was hauling the trailer, etc. so I didn’t get to see anything cool. Only thing I can say is, Chris LeDoux played on the trailer I brought. Lol! I love you Kenny, you make me feel good!
I’m right there with Mark. Back in the “good old days” everyone talks about, you had like 5 competitive cars every week. Now you have almost any car can win
It's 75% driver that makes the car..... and todays drivers don't compare to the good O'l days drivers.
It's more like IROC racing now
My wife is a HUGE Mark Martin fan!! I respect him so much and his opinion matters to me.
well put Mark
Mark Martin is my favorite driver. And I know that he doesn't want to complain about the current ///NASCAR product. But he just sat there and tore this new car apart. Sorry Mark, but don't apologize for being critical. Nascar has screwed this up so bad. They have eliminated every aspect of what has made Nascar great that it's not the same series anymore. And for that, Nascar needs to hear our voice. Because their current product is nothing more than a love child between IROC & IMSA.
Favorite driver of all time to me! Have a couple one off memorabilia that I treasure
Mark Martin is what we need these days
Love Mark Martin one of the greats
I think is has cleaned up a lot of the racing because they have to be more care full not to take out that rear end. Thanks putting my favorite driver of all time Mark Martin.
Such a great guy to listen to. He’s going to call it the way he sees it. It is what it is. 👍
I just wish the "Crown Jewel of stock car racing" actually still looked like the production/stock cars they get their name from. NASCAR is no longer a stock car series but a spec car series. I know this started before the Next Gen car but at least the previous generations sorta resembled a car you would see on the road.
Another great show!