My Thoughts on Why Dale Earnhardt Jr. Left NBC
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- Опубліковано 29 лют 2024
- Kenny Wallace discusses Dale Earnhardt Jr. leaving NBC Sports for Amazon Prime & Warner Brothers Discovery Sports.
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Marty Smith said it best, getting Dale Jr involved brings instant credibility.
probably why i went to 2 CARS tour races last year when i had previously never heard of it
Well NBC has just kicked them selves in the ASS letting Dale Jr go. Not everyone has access to AMAZON PRIME!!!
@@cbnixonthat’s why all the Amazon races will be on TNT as well
@@cbnixon
I have Amazon Prime…but not the $80+ per month TV portion. And I won’t be subscribing to it just to watch a few races. NASCAR needs its own app where ALL the races (and series) will be. NASCAR 24/7…then I will subscribe to that.
@@cbnixon Amazon prime is in over 100 million homes in America, they might not get the older generation to watch but there will be plenty that tune in.
The Jimmy Spencer syndrome. Everyone wants the truth until you tell them the truth. Love you Kenny keep up the good work
Jimmy Spencer never forgets...
Yep!
😮It's a sad commentary on a sport when "fans" tune in to see someone not participating in the event. How about less yapping and more live coverage. The need to sell ads to pay for all this only leads to less coverage. IMO there is entirely too much dialogue in ann sports coverage.
I watched NBC races because of Dale Earnhardt Jr. Just the way it is!
Seriously? He's already married little girl, move on. He doesn't want you.
Perhaps you could find someone in the movie archives to adore or sadly idolize.
The way I understand it, NBC wants to mitigate the increased cost of the new tv contract by having the booth call the races from the new NASCAR studios in Charlotte, and that was a non-negotiable for Junior, irrespective of the money. Bottom line: Amazon and Discovery were willing to meet his demand, that he get to call the race from the track. I applaud him for that.
Yea, I highly doubt any of this revolves around money. Hell Dale didn’t even want to know how much Hendricks was willing to pay him to drive for them. He’s never been about the money, and every single part of his life since he was 14 years old has proved that. He’s strictly about the racing, he uses the media and the spot light to focus it all on the racing and watching the race live in person. There’s no way he will ever call a race or participate in any way with a race without being at the track.
This is the facts rite here.
I think his dirty mo podcast just said this. He doesn't want to call a race remotely. He wants the feel, excitement, and crowd energy at being physically at the track calling the race. Only one or two days ago on Dirty MO. Check it out yourself.
Seeing the race on the screen is nowhere near as exciting as being there. He's absolutely right.
@@goneracin9
It’s not the excitement per se, it’s the accuracy and awareness of what’s going on. Situational awareness, even.
Dale Jr is the full package. Intelligent, humorous, and he knows more about the sport of racing as well as anyone can possibly know.
To bad he bash fans on his podcast for what happen at North Wilkesboro ... When the fans told to his face stop saving bubba and get him off the track.. so what does he do he saves bubba again and again Fans are sick of the woke politics in sports
@@acemay3We know why y'all want Bubba off the track...
Bubba took muh flag away. I can't fly muh flag anymore.
@@mattthacker9120 are you that hi bro how about the dumb s*** at Talladega is what I'm talking about
@@mattthacker9120 and to the rebel flag is a battle flag from the Navy and the southern army
@@mattthacker9120 and since you clearly don't know what history is the KKK was actually run by the Democrat party
It's NBC's loss. Dale Jr. has racing in his blood, & deserves better.❤❤
He was a mediocre racer
@@davidhouse6363 So what? Doesn't matter, he was MPD how many years in a row? How loud did crowds cheer when he led a race? Call him whatever you want, the ratings will follow him. Money pours in wherever he goes.
@davidhouse6363 I'd say he's well above average and suffered a lot if bad luck from head injuries
@@davidhouse6363 And an even worse commentator imo.
NBC's Loss......PFTTTT.....NBC isn't gonna lose any sleep on Dale Jr leaving. That's funny though.
NBC is absolutely insane for letting Dale Jr sign somewhere else. He was my favorite part of their broadcast and I’m certain I’m not alone there. Best of luck in your new chapter jr!
Dale JR was THEE only reason I watched NBC!
I just hope he don’t disappear like Cousin Carl
Don't ask Kenny unless you have plenty of time.😂😂 Love you dude,!
LOL
😂😂😂
No kidding. Dude, you can edit this down. Kenny loves hearing himself.
@@BA-xj9ew id rather gear him than hear u,lol.
haha.... wanna bring him down to my ranch opening weekend of deer season, he might be finished talking about his career by closing weekend...
He left because he is worth $500 Million and can.
More like 300 but at that amount who's counting lol
Good for him!!!
Yeah good for him but we all know him being worth that much money is ridiculous. He even thought at one time it was ridiculous.
He going to be worth a lot more
He said he really enjoyed it and wanted to continue on his podcast
The first time I was able to watch Race Day live was at Michigan Speedway. It was the last season before the CoT went into effect. I was just as excited to see Kenny and Jimmy as I was the actual race. Kenny was awesome and engaged with the crowd a lot, and I met Jimmy as he was coming out of the port-a-shitter smoking a big cigar. He was adjusting his pants and went "AH YEAH!". The memories from Raceday that morning are some of my most cherished memories. I spent that day with my dad, who has since passed. We always watched Raceday together on television before the race, so actually being there was a dream come true for both of us. He talked about that day, and Jimmy coming out of the shitter, right up until dementia robbed him of the memories. I know you hear it all the time Kenny, but I mean this from the bottom of my heart, thank you.
Thank you!
Kenny i will never forget you pushing The Intimidator at Talladega. OMG that was the most exciting race ever and your interview was a classic. We love you.
I think Jr nation is as big as ever ... That last Xfinity race he ran, when he got the lead the crowd was loud and waving and cheering. How many other announcers could do something that a huge majority of the crowd would respond like that. NBC dropped the ball there IMO
Junior deserves better than to be interviewing horses in the stable at the Kentucky Derby.
I think he enjoys doing that sort of thing.
What's wrong with horses at the derby ! Our horses are more interesting than a bunch of rich people's little spoiled ass non driving kids -
NASCAR is nothing compared to what it was and this bell can't be unrung
@@karenkoe7096 He and his wife had a blast here at the Derby
Sad he’ll miss the Olympics He was fun there.
@@davidrice3337 Funny as hell hearing horse people talking about rich people and someone else's spoiled kids . Where I live, you are most likely a spoiled rich kid if you own a horse. And horse racing/the derby is all rich folk, drunks and gamblers...but go ahead and say it's somehow better lmao...
I think Junior left because he values his time and family. The Amazon deal is for only 5 races! He has so much on his plate between the race team, Dirty Mo and his family. Great insight Kenny!
I'll be anxious to see if he enjoys his upcoming travels this year as much as he expects to.
It's 10 races between Amazon and tnt
10 races total
I didn't tie in the TNT races.
I saw this coming when Amazon Prime announced they were going to get into TV with Nascar. This was their first thought, getting Dale Jr on their team and in their broadcast booth. It's a no brainer, of course get this man. He's worth at least 10M a year and I'm probably way low on that estimate, huge asset. He knows and loves the sport inside out. Congratulations for Dale Jr.
Kenny you're still AWESOME!!! And I appreciate your giving your opinion but you didn't destroy your precious friendship with Dale Jr. Thanks for protecting Dale Jr. And y'all's friendship which is more valuable than all the money in the world. I love and respect you more now than ever.
Dale Jr. is my favorite driver and always will be. Thank you, Kenny, for your opinion on what is going on, it's much appreciated. I always look forward to your videos 😊 Much love to you and your family!
I'm biased, Dale Jr has been my favorite driver since he started. I loved his dad growing up. Dale Jr is still the most famous loving NASCAR driver to people between 18-50
Dale Jr great driver but his Love of racing is greater. His influence can't be measured. Now he never drove like his dad but his influence of NASCAR can't be measured in my opinion and I've been watching since my first race as a DuPont guest at first race. Yes Nov 92. Yes that race
The day I was born what a monumental day in NASCAR 😁
I miss hearing Herman on the TV
I was @ that race also down in Atlanta before they changed the track.
Your right. He has done more for the auto racing sport and nascar than anybody can measure. That will be his legacy.
Jr. Got screwed along with all of Sr.'s previous children by Teresa the gold digging troll. Jr.'s stats don't accurately reflect his abilities in my opinion. A simple cuss word at Talladega cost him a championship, Teresa caused dei to implode which was supposed to be left to jr., which severely impacted his success. Let's be honest, he was never as successful as his dad, and probably wouldn't have been. However Ty Norris, the Eury's, anybody close to Sr. Say that he told them it was to be Jr.'s in the end. Jr. Went on to be the most influential personality in NASCAR and Teresa became the most hated personality in NASCAR. How ironic!!!!
Good for Dale! Glad he has his freedom.
Love your truth about Network TV. Sticking Dale Jr. in non-car racing places like the Ky. Derby was interesting? but I bet it drove him crazy. He’s earned so much more respect in NASCAR than ever needing to jump up on a starting gate at a horse race. He doesn’t need to play network games. Thanks, Kenny for the fourteen minutes.
carcar ? your parents must hate kids
Do you know Dale Jr personally ? I saw him here at the derby and he seemed to be having a great time and getting paid -
not a bad gig
@@davidrice3337Sure beats digging ditches. I'm sure he was more than happy with the gig.
@@davidrice3337 don’t think so. Nope don’t know Jr. personally, would be nice. He did a great job because he’s apparently an extremely fun person and a good sport…but he’s done that. On to other things, that’s all.
I'm so glad Dale Jr. has many options ! He is a great person ! I'm glad you guys are friends !
Kenny and Dale Jr now that would amazing combo. Call him up and get on his show and tell us some more stories plz
Jr gave hints that they wanted him to call the race from a remote location. He said he can’t do that because he has to see the whole track, not just what the broadcast is showing on the TV.
Doing it from a remote location is like asking a horse with blinders what happened on the side of the road . Ya horses can talk. Mr Ed .
I saw that too.
Hope you guys have a great time at bike week. Nothing is more important than being with your family when you can . You guys enjoy your time together.
I love the way you approached answering this. Keep in mind that Jr. has established himself as his own personality and it so happens to be one that we as fans treasure deeply. From his raw emotion after winning Taladega and cussing on air being real to going to his podcast and acknowledging his missteps at DEI. We love him for being transparent and open. We value that as consumers of sports and entertainment. It cannot be replaced or manufactured. Jr. will bring that golden talent no matter where he goes. NBC...well....we know what is becoming of them.
Very well spoken, I've seen dale jr.plenty of times at Daytona super speedway and he would always finish from 1-4 positions and when he became an announcer I said man this is great thanks for being professional and fair to Dale jr.
You could have just said "Dale is in a position life and money wise to say fuck you!" I love it! It's a great place in life to be. See Kenny, didn't have to spend 15 minutes explaining lol.
Hey Kenny, tell me about it! I spent 37 years flying for a major airline and at 63 years old I had enough. You’re right, hotels, crowded airports weather, and maintenance delays. It goes on and on. Retirement best thing that ever happened to me.
Kenny Wallace is the biggest ME guy I have ever heard talk. And NOBODY asked him here to talk about HIM, especially since he is at best a "4rd Tier" NASCAR driver. Hell you ask 100 NASACAR fans to name a NASCAR driver named "Wallace" and 99 would say "Rusty" and the other one is probably related to Kenny. LOL
DJ has done a lot for NASCAR & a lot of good talented drivers he gave opportunity to to get experience!
RIP The Man in Black. The Intimidator. Aka One Tough Customer. My hero. I miss him greatly and his Black number 3. Dale was part of the machine as soon as he got into his car and put on his gear. Damn i miss him.
Miss Dale jr, want to see him more , love hearing him talk
He puts out a lot of content on all his podcasts.
Alot of what he said can be your everyday job related deal you work at to provide for your family
The best part of going to the June races at Michigan from 2006-2013 was standing outside the grandstands and watching NASCAR RaceDay Built By The Home Depot. Then they stopped doing all that stuff and going to the races got boring. They need to bring back all the activities outside the tracks. It got so bad at Michigan that they barely even had any merchandise trucks outside the track. I used to look forward to just walking around checking things out. They had bands playing, motorcycles flippin’, the Home Depot stage, etc. The decline of all these things is part of the reason for the decline of NASCAR. iRacing needs to set up simulators at the tracks too.
Yes, I worked for speed channel 2003 to 2007. We had great fans and friends that would always show up for all the shows, Trackside live. Man I miss those days. Bring back the fun...
Those were the days. They were great.
@@tobychambers4481I'm from Canada and absolutely loved Speed channnel. Fox really screwed up getting rid of it!!
Same thing happened at Dover.
When I went in 2017 there it was pretty nice. But the merchandise haulers have been condensed to teams instead of drivers.
Love what you said Herm but I also think Jr is pulled in 17 different directions. I can’t imagine how he does it. NBC took advantage of him and put him elsewhere they could. He has a family and he wants more time with them. Prime only has what? 5 races? Perfect for him but I will personally miss the races with him and Steve and Jeff. I thought it was good. 🏁
Spot on
I watch YOU & DALE because I like what I hear from both of you. I always hope that if I knew you personally I’d think the same.
Two young girls wife race team and God knows what else that is on his plate! It’s a priority adjustment and these networks are well known for not treating people that well. Besides Junior doesn’t need the money that goes along with the BS.
I think you nailed it Herm
You did do good.
Wherever Jr. goes he will definitely make it better
Smart move Amazon
Love Kenny Wallace because he tells it like it is!!!
I think NBC wants a guy with a radio voice. I really liked Allen Bestwick when he was around but Benny and Buddy were my favorites.
Dale Jerrett and Andy Petree. They don't scream like little girls. Rick Allen sounds like a WWE anouncer. Thank God for the volume button.
Bestwick is a stooge and more than happy to "work for the company".
Allen is great
@@jamesgibbons6292Rick Allen is TERRIBLE!
@mattthacker9120 He needs to go back to the trucks. I have to turn the volume on my headphones down until I can barely hear it just so I don't have someone screaming in my ear. Unfortunately most announcers scream but he and his two partners are the worst.
KENNY.... 100% you are correct....👍...Thanks for your honesty always. 🤝
Thanks Herman it's cool to get some behind the scenes perspective and I really like you on youtube because you don't have to act any other way than the way you want to act.
I still listen to MRN and PRN while watching the race on TV 🤷🏼♂️
MRN is Awful.
@@onemorething100 yeah it's definitely lacking now
Radio announcers for racing make the race exciting!!
@@davids5006I love MRN.
MRN back in the 80's, 90's, were awesome. They knew how to paint a picture back then. When Barney died, so did a piece of MRN.
Somebody should have told NBC that Dale Jr. only has one Boss, Amy.
Thank you Kenny for being honest with your opinion
You nailed it Kenny. Thanks for sharing.
Dale Jr. brings his experience and expertise to the broadcast. He is also one of the most popular drivers in the history of NASCAR. Those things make Dale Jr. a credible commentator on the race television coverage. All of that comes with a price for the race coverage network. I am certain that Dale Jr. has a standard that he is committed to in the race broadcast booth. He wants control of what he is going to say in the broadcast and how or when he is going to say it. The current network has a standard they want for those in the broadcast booth and they have demands that they expect to be followed. I agree with Kenny, it’s about demands on both sides. Dale Jr. has chosen to move on. Best wishes for him. JMO
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You are the well thought out and articulate guy that understands the subject better than anyone! God bless, keep it up! ❤️
That's a great explanation of how it is Herman. Thank you for your time
NBC was dumb to let Junior get away. As usual Herm, good content. You are always a great listen.
Kenny is the BEST nascar information guy on utube! He is one upfront person. I appreciate is honesty and being such a great guy! Love him!
Kenny Wallace is the biggest ME guy I have ever heard talk. And NOBODY asked him here to talk about HIM, especially since he is at best a "4rd Tier" NASCAR driver. Hell you ask 100 NASACAR fans to name a NASCAR driver named "Wallace" and 99 would say "Rusty" and the other one is probably related to Kenny. LOL
What’s going to happen is the streaming services in these entities are going to give Jr the money to buy a cup charter and they’re going to sponsor the team!… this is the beginning of the partnership!
Hahaha
Good to see ya on youtube, hope you are well!
Well said Kenny!! Thank you for this
You R exactly, right Herman! Cheers!
NBC blew it! Let's see how NBCs ratings will be this season.
I've noticed when Dale Jr. was missing with the NBC 24 hours of Daytona coverage. Very strange till Dale Jr. mentioned that his contract with them expired. Dale Jr won't be on tv but he will continue his Dirty Mo Media podcasting. :) Can't wait next year for Jr joining Amazon/WBD nascar coverage. It reminds us about the pairing of Summerall and Madden working with CBS until they went to Fox.
Great job, as usual Herman. You’re the best. Truth!
Youre right about people turning in for JR..I watch Supercross mostly because Carmichael is in the booth.
Great job Kenny. You were very truthful as always. Love ya Herman
Kenny, I always love your take on things, down to earth and truthful!!! Keep up the great work!
We do know streaming services are growing, and if it's Amazon, they made the best choice to draw viewers. If Dale is the lead reporter, that's great. Hopefully, they surround him with skilled field reporters, too. I do hope Amazon doesn't out price the average fan or family with their fee to view the races. Thanks for your insight into Dale's move.
in 2023 Amazon Prime was $150.00 per year
I am a Prime subscriber, so should be free to me. But not everyone will pay for Prime, it has gone up steadily. Think it is almost $20 a month now.
@@busher69$14.99 per month. $130 if you pay annually. So, almost $50 more to pay it monthly.
Streaming will be the final nail in the coffin for nascar.
You are 100%right I do watch because of the reporters in the booth and when I don't listen to them I listen to the radio.
I'm such a huge Dale Earnhardt jr fan and Dale senior R.IP.#3. Well to answer if Dale jr is top 10 athlete in the world I would say yes. Congrats to Dale jr getting a new opportunity wish him the best 😁👍🙏
Kenny back in early 2000 you through a Home Depot helmet on your trackside Fox show and I caught it thanks for that great memory at Pocono Speedway
Kenny, your channel is so interesting and entertaining to us average Joes who enjoy NASCAR.
Kenny I think you are spot on. 👍🤠🇺🇸
Kenny Wallace is the biggest ME guy I have ever heard talk. And NOBODY asked him here to talk about HIM, especially since he is at best a "4rd Tier" NASCAR driver. Hell you ask 100 NASACAR fans to name a NASCAR driver named "Wallace" and 99 would say "Rusty" and the other one is probably related to Kenny. LOL
He mentioned on Download that he needed to be at the track and not a studio and he needed to be able to call it as he sees it not holding back. My opinion Dirty Mo and Mike Davis are in the background here somewhere.
Nascar spent $53 million on a broadcast facility in Concord, NC. They are going to announce all the Xfinity races from there next year, to avoid sending the announcers to the track. Dale has been vocal that he needs to be at the track.
@@GrandpaSharkThat just seems so wrong... How do you get a FEEL for THE RACE..? What about the Pre Race info, drivers feelings before getting IN the cars.. Gonna have PIT reporters covering the race as it happens from the PITS..? How about right after..? SO I suppose there will be 2 teams covering the race, team 1, high paid ex drivers from Concord in a studio, Team 2, trackside... Just SO Wrong.... IMO..
Thank you Kenny I agree with you on your last statement 💯. I love the way you are and share your thoughts and the people you talk with.
👍🏻you did great in podcast form
Great Word KW! Thanks for sharing with us.
Makes perfect sense, Dale is busy with other projects and NBC felt like they owned Dale. Had him covering other events. So I can see why he left. But if you look back all the networks go after retiring athletes use them for a few years and another athlete retires and they push the other one out for the fresh face
He will also do fewer races so he can be at home. Appreciate your style and your work!!
Very realistic perspective! Good job!
Love you Herm! I always enjoy your takes on these things.
Welcome to my home town Kenny. Enjoy the most beautiful beach in the world
Kenny Wallace is the biggest ME guy I have ever heard talk. And NOBODY asked him here to talk about HIM, especially since he is at best a "4rd Tier" NASCAR driver. Hell you ask 100 NASACAR fans to name a NASCAR driver named "Wallace" and 99 would say "Rusty" and the other one is probably related to Kenny. LOL
Best part of Jr at NBC was them sending him to the Indy500.
His excitement and discussions with Steve Letarte were refreshing.
He was blown the f away, had an incredible time sharing something that big in racing ... yet, he'd experienced it himself.
Yes, I was thinking the same thing. As an Indycar fan, I enjoyed seeing Dale Jr involved in the Indy 500 and hearing his reactions. I thought he did well.
@@ElliottNest39
You're right.
What's notable is where they positioned the NBC box is right at pit exit, the highest speed at the end of the main straight ... diving into turn one.
It's extraordinarily impressive right there, the intensity, the sound, the smell, as they dive into a 90° left turn at 240mph.
I've been at the track countless times since the 60's.
I try to take first timers right there at the gate, to experience the full effect. It's dramatic.
Similarly, I prefer row one, turn one ... on race day.
The intensity.
@@FOH3663 :) I know exactly what you mean. My first 500 was 1965, but didn’t get down close until the 1970s. It literally takes your breath away. I would like to see other racers from various series to come to Indianapolis to have the same experience.
@@ElliottNest39
Very nice!
Your Spot On !
Kenny #1 !
This just popped up on my feed ,but I really did enjoy Kenny in the booth calling races .
Kenny, you are a gem. Enjoy your takes on all aspects of racing. Would love to hang out and watch a race one day, I know unlikely, but I feel like you appreciate fans just enjoying racing. Also I know my lane, I don't know crap about setups, the grind, the skill set, and I just enjoy. Take care, and keep being you.
Herm, that's about as diplomatic and fair of an explanation that a person could do. Well done. My personal opinion is that NBC never has and never will fully understand NASCAR. Jr. is the guy you build a brand around.
There's another saying about marriages when the luster wears off. It's: "If you don't love your wife, somebody else will." Someone else is going to be loving Dale Jr.
They don’t realize he’s gaining steam every day. I find myself listening to him more and more everyday.
I think you've got insight, you're upright and you can make me (us) smile. Thats why i follow you here on UA-cam to hear what you got to say..
He brought value too the broadcast 😊
Do people really watch racing or any sport because of who the announcers are? I admit I loved the old ESPN guys of Bob Jenkins, Ned Jarrett, and the best of all was Benny Parsons, but I turned on the race to see the race itself. The announcers are the icing, the racing/sport has to be the cake...
I'm sure there's some people that do
Herman, your a great dude. Just throwing that out there from one Missorian to another.
Kenny we are about the same age (I love your channel). I refuse to fly commercial if possible. TSA has made it so intolerable and uncomfortable that it’s no longer acceptable. Keep the truth coming!
I miss seeing you and Spencer on the NASCAR segments Herm was always a good time 😂😂😂
Jr had the power to do what he wants, “when” he wants. He’s got little kids and I am sure he doesn’t want to be gone like SR was when he was growing up. Period!
Kenny, I think you are partially right, but Dale Jr. has a very smart family member (Kelly) looking holistically at his business empire. I think the next company is willing to integrate parts of his businesses (i,e, Dirty Mo, etc...) and further their development. I think the move is all about the future, if that make sense.
Kenny Wallace is the biggest ME guy I have ever heard talk. And NOBODY asked him here to talk about HIM, especially since he is at best a "4rd Tier" NASCAR driver. Hell you ask 100 NASACAR fans to name a NASCAR driver named "Wallace" and 99 would say "Rusty" and the other one is probably related to Kenny. LOL
Thanks for the video, Kenny Wallace.
This the first video I’ve seen of yours.
It’s to bad I feel like a guy. Like Dale isn’t something you replace. Awesome pick up. For Amazon instant credibility from every fan you wanna be successful in nascar hitch your wagon to Dale everything he touches turns to gold
It is all about the revolving door Kenny. That is the circle of life. Kenny you bring it all to reality. God Bless Brother!
Much simpler than that. He has his own show, and THAT keeps him close to home. Calling races doesn't. You gte older and you realize money isn't so much the issue. Time is. Spend more time with the kids, do his own show close to home. More money than he needs.....simple.
You don't work "for" them, you work "with" them. Well said Herman
Love you Herman, had good times meeting you at KY, i was security
Gotta LOVE Herman! No nonsense or bullshit!
amazon needs to get allen bestwick next. Him and Jr in the booth for the races that amazon purchased would be a great combo. Have a great weekend, Kenny!
Jr has the NASCAR fans in mind when it comes to viewing a race. Can’t wait to see what Jr and Prime do next year!
Hey Kenny, I hope you remember us we were guys that met you at Pocono when you were doing your show we’re all from Staten Island we brought the New York City fire fire outfit after 911 and we called you down from doing a live TV show you put on the jacket the hat, the boots and you took pictures with us. I still have the pictures I believe those were the days we had a lot of fun together. We saw you multiple times after that you’re always a great guy to us, so are you at Watkins Glen multiple times, we still have the same campsite at Watkins Glen since 1998. Thanks for being who you are. You are the man King, New York City and you might remember GUMBY thanks if you remember leave me a response back.