I reference the Corpse Reviver #2 as a good use of the Kina L'Aéro d'Or and it just so happens Greg from How To Drink did a video on it yesterday: ua-cam.com/video/cKxvLFAMP7c/v-deo.html Also I flubbed and forgot the background music throughout the video, play this at the same time if you need your fix :) ua-cam.com/video/vmDDOFXSgAs/v-deo.html
I really appreciate the honest review of Kona L’Aero d’Or. I just heard about it from Greg’s video and am curious about using it vs Cochi Americano. Thank you for doing this video.
2:40 Y'know, there 's actually a reason given in the book that Casino Royale is based on as to why the amounts of each ingredient in a Vesper are so large. This is taken straight from Chapter 7 of the book: 'A dry martini,' he said. 'One. In a deep champagne goblet.' 'Oui, monsieur.' 'Just a moment. Three measures of Gordon's, one of vodka, half a measure of Kina Lillet. Shake it very well until it's ice-cold, then add a large thin slice of lemon peel. Got it?' 'Certainly monsieur.' The barman seemed pleased with the idea. 'Gosh, that's certainly a drink,' said Leiter. Bond laughed. 'When I'm ... er ... concentrating,' he explained, 'I never have more than one drink before dinner. But I do like that one to be large and very strong and very cold, and very well-made. I hate small portions of anything, particularly when they taste bad. This drink's my own invention. I'm going to patent it when I think of a good name.' Essentially, like a couple other people have said, Bond was being extra when he ordered it, on top of also just being the kind of person who doesn't half-ass anything they do.
Ah the amount of Vespers I used to serve people in the aftermath of a James Bond movie being released. Only for them to come back to the bar and ask if I could put some tonic water in it because it was too strong for them. Great variation on a martini.
i love the strength of the vesper. i tend to call it a "three-sip-drink". what you really should try is a vesper with belvedere vodka, ferdinand's saar dry gin (if you want to carry it to excess get the cask strength) and lillet blanc.
Yes, “vesper” means evening. But the name “Vesper Lynd”? Say ot over and over, remembering when Ian Fleming wrote the book during the cold war. Vesper Lynd = West Berlin
Not really true. According to the book Casino Royale, Bond orders this drink because when he's on the job he prefers to drink only one large, strong, very cold drink. Thus the above average alcohol content for a single drink, and why it's ordered shaken, not stirred. And interestingly, in the book he requests it to be served in a coupe glass, like the latter two cocktails!
I made one tonight. My first. Right off the bat, 4 oz of booze is a handful. I used Lillet Blanc. The interwebs listed it as one of the substitutes. Gin and vodka, are not half bad.
@@JonathanFaltas ahhh right I feel ya! Wouldn't say I get that with vespers per say, I work in a bar that churns out a LOT of classics. I tend to get this feeling with guests that order porn star martinis 🤦🏻♂️
This would be a long video, but recreate Diane's first ever order from Cheers: Two vodka gimlets, one straight up, one blended, rocks; Chivas, rocks; Comfort Manhattan, hold the cherry; white wine spritzer with a twist; Old Bushmill Irish decaf, hold the sugar.
Great video but I'm not sure if I agree that Fleming didn't know about dilution etc. All the Bond books are full of booze references and detailed drink descriptions. Plus, the bloke was sozzled most of the time.
I've always taken his choice of shaking as adding intentional dilution because he's a high functioning alcoholic. Bit easier to guzzle down 6 martinis in one sitting with a touch of extra water in them.
Believe it or not i had this drink yesterday in a bar!! The bartender (a very good one) used a white vermouth and a single dash of violette liqueur insted of kina, it was very very good and since i usually drink mostly whisky i didn't feel the alcohol much
The thing that surprised me the most: After seeing this clip I ordered Kina l‘Aero d‘Ore. I thougt „cool someone is importing this to switzerland. After getting it I realised it is from here.!!! (yes i live in switzerland, and yes mountains included).
Not sure if this has been posted before, but the Vesper was, in fact, made by Ian Fleming himself for the Casino Royale novel, not the movie, so it goes back quite a while (1953). Amazing cocktail, by the way.
I have a member at the Country Club that orders these once in a while. I add an ounce of Feavertree naturally light tonic water to compensate for the lack of bittering agents. To get rid of the carbonation, I dry shake then add ice and just let it sit while I peel the lemon; no shaking, no stirring so as not to over dilute due to the addition of the tonic. Personally, this isn't one of my favorite cocktails but I could enjoy one every now and then.
Iirc Fleming said Bond was a lightweight so Bond would have his drinks shaken because they dilute the alcohol more. But he’d do it in a way that makes him seem cool and a little snobby
That's an argument I never quite understood. I mean yes. The drink wouldn't be as strong, however if you drink it entirely, it doesn't really matter if it was stirred or shaken. It's the same amount of alcohol you ingested. Unless I miss something. Feel free to correct me.
The Walking Forest the British Medical Association carried an article in December 2013 working out Bonds alcohol consumption across the Fleming books. They worked out that he averaged 93 units of alcohol per week and had a peak single day intake of 49.5 units.
sgwh2002 man, I think I must have had a problem in my youth. As it scared me that when you said 49 units and it didn’t seem that much. Yikes.... tbf, that’s like 10 martinis. Which is like a night out in my youth.
My modified Vesper: 1/4 oz Cocchi Americano 1 oz Gin (Prefer Bombai or Beefeater) 1 oz Vodka (Prefer Titos or Sobieski) Equal parts of the vodka and gin round out the flavor a little bit, so the gin isn't so "in your face". Love this drink.
I know Ian Flemming included a lot of highly detailed food descriptions in his books, I wouldn't put it past him to know a thing or two about cocktails too.
Your Tempus fugit looks like it has been open a while. I only know this because the same rose colour has occured in my Noilly Prat which has been open for ages and has gone rosy. I bought some Tempus Fugit Quinine the other day and it was slightly yellow. By the way it is awesome on ice and in a corps reviver.! Shame it only comes in a 700ml bottle so it is in the fridge now!
in the book its when he first arrives at the casino and is talking to felix i think? him and the bartender hit it off and they have a nice conversation about said drink.
love the vid... extremely helpful as I have searched for a decent substitute for Kine Lillet and arrived at the same place as you have here.... many thanks...'scribed...
Great vid! I like martini, but my favorite is the Dirty. So I made a "Dirty Vesper", plainly a Vesper with olive brine and olive instead of lemon in it. You got to love olives to like that drink. ;)
The Kina L'Aero d'Or would be tempting, if not for the fact that apparently it's unavailable in my country. The only one I can get is the Lillet Blanc. On the other hand, what gin would you guys recommend? (I can't find Gordon's here either, and as I see now it has lower AbV anyway).
I had heard one of the reasons for the shaking rather than stirring was something to do with the vodka Flemming being used to being far oilier and potato based but cannot speak to the validity.
Bond "watched as the deep glass became frosted with the pale golden drink, slightly aerated by the bruising of the shaker," Fleming was well aware of the nuances it seems. One of the reasons for shaking might be the vodka, potato vodka vs grain vodka have different textures (with potatoes being more oily, grain being more creamy). And during the cold war era potato vodka was more predominant than grain vodka. another might be the serving speed, dilution (marginal) and many more.
Konzetsu “Bond telling the barman, after taking a long sip, "Excellent ... but if you can get a vodka made with grain instead of potatoes, you will find it still better," and then adds in an aside, "Mais n'enculons pas des mouches" (English: "But let's not bugger flies"-a vulgar French expression meaning "let's not split hairs").”” Straight from the Casino Royale book
This video got me thinking of a hilarious Story. *"One blonde short haired guy who's an expert poker player invited a couple, a blonde long haired guy and a black long haired woman into his house, and they played poker together, as buddies. The blonde long haired guy, asked the butler to call in the bartender to bring three respective bottles customized for each of them to go as a taste test. That test determined which martini tasted the best, The Apple martini, The Vesper martini, and the Bubbly martini."* In case anyone's aware or not, The Apple martini is from OUAT, The Vesper martini, as described in this video from Casino Royale, and the Bubbly martini is Chris Jericho's specialty from AEW.
Cocchi is more common, but the Kina l'Aero d'Or is the closest to Kina Lillet from what I understand. While Fleming didn't quite understand the exact science of dilution, shaking it *does* work better than stirring with the old proofs. Historic advertisements prove that the products Bond ordered were indeed 47.5% ABV gin and 50% ABV vodka.
In the book Bond comments that if you make this with a vodka made from grain it’s better than with one made from potatoes! I have no idea if this is true since I’m not a big drinker, but an interesting point!
Actually, the dilution thing is true. Bond did it because he would Oder a crazy sounding drink, then have it shaken to dilute. He was a working agent, couldn’t be drunk on the job. Fleming has spoken about it before. It’s a well known tactic in MI5 etc to look like you’re drinking but are secretly sober.
I am confused by the claim the lillet blanc had "almost no trace of bitterness". When I go to a store an buy a bottle, it clearly states that it contains quinquina and I can taste that. Is it just that the other options are that much more bitter or am I buying a different lillet?
I made this same question at the recent HTD’s video, but maybe I’ll have better luck here. I can’t get neither Kina Laero D’or nor Cocchi americano where I’m at. Is it possible to emulate the taste using Lillet Blanc and muddling some pieces of cinchona bark in the shaker or making a cinchona infused gin beforehand?
Demonic Koala oh, hey! Yes, I actually did it. I eventually decided to infuse the cinchona bark into some Lillet Blanc. Here’s what I got: 15g of cinchona bark chips for 500g of Lillet Blanc. Into an isi whipper it goes. 2 nitro chargers in, shake it, release the pressure and leave for 5 to 10 minutes. Double strain through a fine strainer and a coffee filter. What I got at the end was very bitter, but still tasted like Lillet (maybe 10g of cinchona would be better?). I have no way of comparing to other alternatives, but the cocktail turned out pretty well.
can you make the "wake up juice" from Back to the future part 3? Oh,or perhaps the Cow Boy cocktail,from Cowboy Bebop,which is mostly Bourbon and Milk (Jupiter Jazz ).
The reason why Bond orders his martinis shaken is two fold. The first as you mentioned being dilution and the second being that when the original novels were written air conditioning was far from standard and shaking a cocktail more effectively chills it down.
BattleCryy Some States in the US mandate that plastic bottles are used for liquor and / or liquors can only be sold at special stores. I ran into this when I was in the US earlier this year and it was a bit confusing to say the least!
BattleCryy I fell afoul of this when me, my new wife, her sister and her sister’s husband (my in-laws) drove all day to Virginia. I picked up beer at a supermarket but wondered why they didn’t pick up any vodka, seeing as that’s what they wanted. That’s when I found out that liquor had to be bought at a nearby ABC...and it was shut!
I was told Cocchi Americano was a good substitute for Kina Lillet, but when I tried it, well... Maybe my pallet isn't as developed as an international secret agent, but if there's a difference between it and vermouth, I can't tell. Also, lemon twist martinis have absolutely nothing on a good dirty, and it's no different here. 3 oz gin, 1 oz vodka, 1/2 oz Cocchi, 1/2 oz olive brine, *STIR, DON'T SHAKE,* double strain over olives. Not sure if the vodka adds anything, but it's a nice little drink, and strong as fuck too. Cocchi is like 20 dollars a bottle though, so I don't think it's terribly worth it.
The Vesper wasn't Fleming's creation, it was that of a friend of his that frequented Fleming's cocktail parties. Importantly, if you read the books, Bond specifies the use of a champagne *goblet*, not a martini glass, so the correct procedure is in fact to make it as if a measure equals an ounce, which means that it would be helped significantly by the use of the American method from the turn of the 20th Century (shaken, not stirred). In all, I'd say that the original recipe is very correct. Also, not only is Gordon's significantly lower proof in the present day, but it's also been outright reformulated and American Gordon's and British Gordon's have always been different formulations to account for market preferences. And yes, Vodka back then was typically 50 proof. Like, I get that the craft of making cocktails has advanced significantly since the 50s, but this attitude that modern barkeepers know better than the people from the past and aren't obligated to try the original recipe in order to understand it is arrogant and ignorant. It needs to stop.
A bar near me serves the Lillet version of this and calls it the James Bond... when I order it I call it the Vesper and they just look at me puzzled. If they're gonna copy it they should use the right name
I can't seem to find a definitive answer so can someone please tell me how many ounces 1 measure of alcohol/spirits is, is It the same as a Shot? I've always thought a Shot was 1oz but depending on you are it ranges from 3/4oz to 1.5oz. As for the difference between Martinis being Shaken or Stirred supposedly Gin reacts differently when Stirred vs Shaken, shaking a Martini supposedly helps mix the Vermouth better and if being mixed with cracked ice induces more water. A Classic Martini is never Shaken it's always Stirred which results in a Dryer and more Bitter tasting drink, the Bond Shaken Martini is a weaker tasting drink, Bond orders drinks that way to sound Snootier and more Arrogant ( like he needs help with that being a Brit). I don't like Gin so Martinis are not my favorite but I can definitely taste the difference between Stirred and Shaken.
The " Measure" refers to whatever size of shot glass you use, bearing in mind the Volume doesn't matter so much as the Proportions. ( This drink in ounces is a LARGE martini, needing a fairly substantial glass). Better to say " One part Vodka to 3 parts Gordons". Shaken drinks tend to be a touch cloudier than a stirred, which usually will seem a bit more clear. And yes, Shaking dilutes more than stirring, but gets it colder faster, and necessitates the extra fine strainer to keep ice out of the drink, where stirring shouldn't produce too much slush or crystals that need more than your Julep/ Hawthorne strainer.
This doesn’t even feel like something taboo like alcohol, it feels like your uncle teaching you how make a treehouse c: I loce your channel man, keep going :D
I reference the Corpse Reviver #2 as a good use of the Kina L'Aéro d'Or and it just so happens Greg from How To Drink did a video on it yesterday: ua-cam.com/video/cKxvLFAMP7c/v-deo.html
Also I flubbed and forgot the background music throughout the video, play this at the same time if you need your fix :) ua-cam.com/video/vmDDOFXSgAs/v-deo.html
I believe the reason Bond had his martini shaken, not stirred was because he was a high functioning alcoholic.
I really appreciate the honest review of Kona L’Aero d’Or. I just heard about it from Greg’s video and am curious about using it vs Cochi Americano. Thank you for doing this video.
I was gonna ask if you coordinated this video with him, funny coincidence!
I'm pretty sure "d'Or" is pronounced do-voir
2:40 Y'know, there
's actually a reason given in the book that Casino Royale is based on as to why the amounts of each ingredient in a Vesper are so large.
This is taken straight from Chapter 7 of the book:
'A dry martini,' he said. 'One. In a deep champagne goblet.'
'Oui, monsieur.'
'Just a moment. Three measures of Gordon's, one of vodka, half a measure of Kina Lillet. Shake it very well until it's ice-cold, then add a large thin slice of lemon peel. Got it?'
'Certainly monsieur.' The barman seemed pleased with the idea.
'Gosh, that's certainly a drink,' said Leiter.
Bond laughed. 'When I'm ... er ... concentrating,' he explained, 'I never have more than one drink before dinner. But I do like that one to be large and very strong and very cold, and very well-made. I hate small portions of anything, particularly when they taste bad. This drink's my own invention. I'm going to patent it when I think of a good name.'
Essentially, like a couple other people have said, Bond was being extra when he ordered it, on top of also just being the kind of person who doesn't half-ass anything they do.
Ah the amount of Vespers I used to serve people in the aftermath of a James Bond movie being released.
Only for them to come back to the bar and ask if I could put some tonic water in it because it was too strong for them.
Great variation on a martini.
Quess yeah haha. God bless em
Same. But I would just make them gin martinis and not tell them
Tom Lasher-Walker oh hai! Fancy seeing you here
i love the strength of the vesper. i tend to call it a "three-sip-drink". what you really should try is a vesper with belvedere vodka, ferdinand's saar dry gin (if you want to carry it to excess get the cask strength) and lillet blanc.
Pussies. I drink 3 at a sitting.
Yes, “vesper” means evening. But the name “Vesper Lynd”? Say ot over and over, remembering when Ian Fleming wrote the book during the cold war. Vesper Lynd = West Berlin
A SSR controlled part of Germany, West Berlin. Vesper was blackmailed (I think) by Soviet agents for quantum. Connection
Actually when I close my eyes and whisper Vesper Lynd, Eva Green appears. Wow what a looker.
Robert Sullivan sounds like a dream come true 😅
So...you make me remembered Putin instead of Eva, that's awkward...
west berlin was the portion of berlin under control of the allies, was it not? east berlin was the USSR side, right?
It should be noted that Bond was trying to be extra and douchey when he ordered this drink. Consider that before ordering it in a bar.
Lol like i still wouldnt order it
It's not that complicated of a drink
@@CAMSLAYER13 It's very particular, specifically in that he asks for it to be prepared improperly. He was trying to come off as a bougie asshole.
Not really true. According to the book Casino Royale, Bond orders this drink because when he's on the job he prefers to drink only one large, strong, very cold drink. Thus the above average alcohol content for a single drink, and why it's ordered shaken, not stirred. And interestingly, in the book he requests it to be served in a coupe glass, like the latter two cocktails!
I made one tonight. My first. Right off the bat, 4 oz of booze is a handful. I used Lillet Blanc. The interwebs listed it as one of the substitutes. Gin and vodka, are not half bad.
Man this cocktail... Evry time a client ask for one, i know it will be a long shift...
Hahaha I'm sorry bro. 😅
It is actually a very tasty drink if made well
Why? Such an easy drink to make 😂
@@tuckafella94 The problem it's not the drink it's the type of clients who orders it , if you know what I mean...
@@JonathanFaltas ahhh right I feel ya! Wouldn't say I get that with vespers per say, I work in a bar that churns out a LOT of classics. I tend to get this feeling with guests that order porn star martinis 🤦🏻♂️
Take five was just playing in my head before I got to the end and realised it wasn't even playing ..
This would be a long video, but recreate Diane's first ever order from Cheers:
Two vodka gimlets, one straight up, one blended, rocks; Chivas, rocks; Comfort Manhattan, hold the cherry; white wine spritzer with a twist; Old Bushmill Irish decaf, hold the sugar.
you forgot the background music in most of the episode, its very unsettling
ah crap
@@CocktailChemistry we all make mistakes sometimes its good ;)
Happy Hallowee-ee-een!
I sort of like it, it makes the video seem minimalistic and easier to concentrate on.
@@CocktailChemistry lol, we forget stuff ALL the time :)
BOND: Dry Martini
WAITER: Oui, messeur
BOND: Oh, wait....
ME: I got lost on what he said after that.
"three measures of Gordons, one of vodka, half a measure of Kina Lillet, shake it over ice then add a thin slice of lemon peel"
Its written monsieur my dude 😂
Great video but I'm not sure if I agree that Fleming didn't know about dilution etc. All the Bond books are full of booze references and detailed drink descriptions. Plus, the bloke was sozzled most of the time.
Lol I always took as way for Bond to say he was a man of action -you learn something new every day
I've always taken his choice of shaking as adding intentional dilution because he's a high functioning alcoholic. Bit easier to guzzle down 6 martinis in one sitting with a touch of extra water in them.
There are so many words for being drunk, but until this day, I hadn't heard of the term "sozzled". Thanks for that one!
In the novel Goldfinger Bond let's the ice in his drink melt a bit first to dilute it before drinking.
I reckon Fleming would have known how to pronounce “quinine” properly
Believe it or not i had this drink yesterday in a bar!! The bartender (a very good one) used a white vermouth and a single dash of violette liqueur insted of kina, it was very very good and since i usually drink mostly whisky i didn't feel the alcohol much
The drink can still be made with a high quality gin.
The thing that surprised me the most: After seeing this clip I ordered Kina l‘Aero d‘Ore. I thougt „cool someone is importing this to switzerland. After getting it I realised it is from here.!!! (yes i live in switzerland, and yes mountains included).
Not sure if this has been posted before, but the Vesper was, in fact, made by Ian Fleming himself for the Casino Royale novel, not the movie, so it goes back quite a while (1953). Amazing cocktail, by the way.
I have a member at the Country Club that orders these once in a while. I add an ounce of Feavertree naturally light tonic water to compensate for the lack of bittering agents. To get rid of the carbonation, I dry shake then add ice and just let it sit while I peel the lemon; no shaking, no stirring so as not to over dilute due to the addition of the tonic.
Personally, this isn't one of my favorite cocktails but I could enjoy one every now and then.
5:12 AND I OOP
TallestOne i came to the comments just to make sure someone had said this, incredible
Tempus Fugit means "time flies" in Latin in case you're wondering.
Tempus fugit, memento mori!!
Lillet is amazing on its own. Well chilled, it is the perfect aperitif.
“To a more reasonably sized spec”
Well we know one of the dislikes is from Ian Fleming’s ghost
Iirc Fleming said Bond was a lightweight so Bond would have his drinks shaken because they dilute the alcohol more. But he’d do it in a way that makes him seem cool and a little snobby
That's an argument I never quite understood. I mean yes. The drink wouldn't be as strong, however if you drink it entirely, it doesn't really matter if it was stirred or shaken. It's the same amount of alcohol you ingested.
Unless I miss something. Feel free to correct me.
The Walking Forest the British Medical Association carried an article in December 2013 working out Bonds alcohol consumption across the Fleming books. They worked out that he averaged 93 units of alcohol per week and had a peak single day intake of 49.5 units.
sgwh2002 man, I think I must have had a problem in my youth. As it scared me that when you said 49 units and it didn’t seem that much. Yikes.... tbf, that’s like 10 martinis. Which is like a night out in my youth.
This is a great video and provides needed information on better substitutes for the original Lillet.
My modified Vesper:
1/4 oz Cocchi Americano
1 oz Gin (Prefer Bombai or Beefeater)
1 oz Vodka (Prefer Titos or Sobieski)
Equal parts of the vodka and gin round out the flavor a little bit, so the gin isn't so "in your face". Love this drink.
This feels like a response to How To Drink’s latest video and I find that kinda interesting
Flemming didn't know much about the science of dilution, but he surely was "dilutional".
Hehe.
He.
I need a drink.
I love this comment 😂😂😂
Always look forward to your content man, keep it up!
I really appreciated waking up to this video in my inbox
2:20 I wonder if that "tempis fugit" inspired the line in another James Bond movie.
the undone bow tie is looking good.
I know Ian Flemming included a lot of highly detailed food descriptions in his books, I wouldn't put it past him to know a thing or two about cocktails too.
Your Tempus fugit looks like it has been open a while. I only know this because the same rose colour has occured in my Noilly Prat which has been open for ages and has gone rosy. I bought some Tempus Fugit Quinine the other day and it was slightly yellow. By the way it is awesome on ice and in a corps reviver.! Shame it only comes in a 700ml bottle so it is in the fridge now!
Do you have a link to those funky shotglasses (time 1:50) anywhere?
in the book its when he first arrives at the casino and is talking to felix i think? him and the bartender hit it off and they have a nice conversation about said drink.
Going to try, and where you get your apron
Keep up the good work man.. I love your videos 👍🏼
Watching this right after school, perfect end to the day.
You should go watch some gaming videos.
love the vid... extremely helpful as I have searched for a decent substitute for Kine Lillet and arrived at the same place as you have here.... many thanks...'scribed...
Yes way over due! Also I love your subtle humor my friend, yes that's why we wear those ties 😉
"Vesper" is Latin for evening, and "Tempus fugit" is Latin for "Time flies (flees)"
Love your videos ☺️ one thing I'm confused about with the vesper.. Why the addition of the vodka for this one? Does it help water down the juniper?
I wanna try it now next time I go to a bar im gonna order this
The "proper" martini from kingsman next please
Great vid! I like martini, but my favorite is the Dirty. So I made a "Dirty Vesper", plainly a Vesper with olive brine and olive instead of lemon in it. You got to love olives to like that drink. ;)
The Kina L'Aero d'Or would be tempting, if not for the fact that apparently it's unavailable in my country. The only one I can get is the Lillet Blanc.
On the other hand, what gin would you guys recommend? (I can't find Gordon's here either, and as I see now it has lower AbV anyway).
I love this channel
My friend; Bring me one as well, and keep the fruit.
I'm a huge fan of Jeffrey Wrights depiction of Leiter.
Such a great scene!
Could you add egg white to kill a bit of the strength of the alcohol and add a richer heavier body?
Absinthe is also a good substitute for the Lillet blanc
I had heard one of the reasons for the shaking rather than stirring was something to do with the vodka Flemming being used to being far oilier and potato based but cannot speak to the validity.
Bond "watched as the deep glass became frosted with the pale golden drink, slightly aerated by the bruising of the shaker,"
Fleming was well aware of the nuances it seems.
One of the reasons for shaking might be the vodka, potato vodka vs grain vodka have different textures (with potatoes being more oily, grain being more creamy). And during the cold war era potato vodka was more predominant than grain vodka.
another might be the serving speed, dilution (marginal) and many more.
Konzetsu “Bond telling the barman, after taking a long sip, "Excellent ... but if you can get a vodka made with grain instead of potatoes, you will find it still better," and then adds in an aside, "Mais n'enculons pas des mouches" (English: "But let's not bugger flies"-a vulgar French expression meaning "let's not split hairs").””
Straight from the Casino Royale book
Hello,
In french, when a word ends with a "C", it is silent. You would therefore say it as you did, but without the "kh",
This video got me thinking of a hilarious Story.
*"One blonde short haired guy who's an expert poker player invited a couple, a blonde long haired guy and a black long haired woman into his house, and they played poker together, as buddies. The blonde long haired guy, asked the butler to call in the bartender to bring three respective bottles customized for each of them to go as a taste test. That test determined which martini tasted the best, The Apple martini, The Vesper martini, and the Bubbly martini."*
In case anyone's aware or not, The Apple martini is from OUAT, The Vesper martini, as described in this video from Casino Royale, and the Bubbly martini is Chris Jericho's specialty from AEW.
How about the Lillet Blanc, but add some bitters to it?
I'm not even of drinking age but these are amazing
I also read that Bond likely had his drinks shaken to dilute them. Not wanting to be to drunk, being an agent of 'Her Majesty's Secret Service'.
Any idea where you got those great little tasting cups?
Cocchi is more common, but the Kina l'Aero d'Or is the closest to Kina Lillet from what I understand.
While Fleming didn't quite understand the exact science of dilution, shaking it *does* work better than stirring with the old proofs. Historic advertisements prove that the products Bond ordered were indeed 47.5% ABV gin and 50% ABV vodka.
I made one once. Went out and tracked down all the ingredients and…I was not a fan. Maybe I’ll try your version
If seeking bitterness is the goal, why not use Campari instead the defunct Kina Lillet? I tried it (in the stirred configuration, not shaken).
I find Cocchi Americano to be the best substitute for Kina Lillet. And for Vodka, I use Purity 51.
In the book Bond comments that if you make this with a vodka made from grain it’s better than with one made from potatoes! I have no idea if this is true since I’m not a big drinker, but an interesting point!
I like .5oz of Lillet, 2oz of Bombay Sapphire, 1oz of Kettle One, lemon etc.
In a job where you may have to drink to keep up appearances, or just be an alcoholic, it helps to water down your drinks.
Duff Gardens beer smoothie?
And merch that says "good mouth feel"
The only reason why you would shake a martini is to get it colder and change the texture. If shaken, navy strenght gin is great!
Well, Gordon's is not the same now as it was back in the days, so this would have to be accounted for as well, wouldn't it?
Actually, the dilution thing is true.
Bond did it because he would Oder a crazy sounding drink, then have it shaken to dilute. He was a working agent, couldn’t be drunk on the job.
Fleming has spoken about it before. It’s a well known tactic in MI5 etc to look like you’re drinking but are secretly sober.
That seems so simple yet so brilliant. I always just thought he was ordering it wrong.
Either alternatives to Lillet work, but especially Kina L'Areo d'Or
I am confused by the claim the lillet blanc had "almost no trace of bitterness". When I go to a store an buy a bottle, it clearly states that it contains quinquina and I can taste that. Is it just that the other options are that much more bitter or am I buying a different lillet?
Made this today to toast to Sean Connery rip
I made this same question at the recent HTD’s video, but maybe I’ll have better luck here.
I can’t get neither Kina Laero D’or nor Cocchi americano where I’m at. Is it possible to emulate the taste using Lillet Blanc and muddling some pieces of cinchona bark in the shaker or making a cinchona infused gin beforehand?
Send it an let us know if it works
Demonic Koala oh, hey! Yes, I actually did it.
I eventually decided to infuse the cinchona bark into some Lillet Blanc.
Here’s what I got: 15g of cinchona bark chips for 500g of Lillet Blanc. Into an isi whipper it goes. 2 nitro chargers in, shake it, release the pressure and leave for 5 to 10 minutes. Double strain through a fine strainer and a coffee filter.
What I got at the end was very bitter, but still tasted like Lillet (maybe 10g of cinchona would be better?). I have no way of comparing to other alternatives, but the cocktail turned out pretty well.
can you make the "wake up juice" from Back to the future part 3? Oh,or perhaps the Cow Boy cocktail,from Cowboy Bebop,which is mostly Bourbon and Milk (Jupiter Jazz ).
The How To Drink channel did these already
I wouldn't use an American vodka to make the Vesper cocktail.
At least you tried.
but Nick Charles famously instructed "Martinis must be shaken to waltz time...." incorrect I know but what a line.
could you use the amer china-china in a vesper? instead of lillet
IT BRUISES THE GIN!!! at least that was the original reason. for not stirring
I like bespoke post
The reason why Bond orders his martinis shaken is two fold. The first as you mentioned being dilution and the second being that when the original novels were written air conditioning was far from standard and shaking a cocktail more effectively chills it down.
The more I'm seeing/hearing this, the more sense its starting to make. As a long time Bond fan, it seems so obvious when you point it out.
Wait, why is his Gordon's in a clear, plastic bottle, not a green, glass one?
BattleCryy Some States in the US mandate that plastic bottles are used for liquor and / or liquors can only be sold at special stores. I ran into this when I was in the US earlier this year and it was a bit confusing to say the least!
@@WardyLion huh, how odd! ya learn something new every day, I guess
BattleCryy I fell afoul of this when me, my new wife, her sister and her sister’s husband (my in-laws) drove all day to Virginia. I picked up beer at a supermarket but wondered why they didn’t pick up any vodka, seeing as that’s what they wanted. That’s when I found out that liquor had to be bought at a nearby ABC...and it was shut!
I don’t even drink but these videos are great
can you try cocktails from venture bros
This guys definitely watches binging with babs
I was told Cocchi Americano was a good substitute for Kina Lillet, but when I tried it, well...
Maybe my pallet isn't as developed as an international secret agent, but if there's a difference between it and vermouth, I can't tell. Also, lemon twist martinis have absolutely nothing on a good dirty, and it's no different here. 3 oz gin, 1 oz vodka, 1/2 oz Cocchi, 1/2 oz olive brine, *STIR, DON'T SHAKE,* double strain over olives. Not sure if the vodka adds anything, but it's a nice little drink, and strong as fuck too. Cocchi is like 20 dollars a bottle though, so I don't think it's terribly worth it.
Bizarre idea, but could you try and make the Powerful Poison from Tom and Jerry? It’d be interesting to see how it’d really be.
The Vesper wasn't Fleming's creation, it was that of a friend of his that frequented Fleming's cocktail parties. Importantly, if you read the books, Bond specifies the use of a champagne *goblet*, not a martini glass, so the correct procedure is in fact to make it as if a measure equals an ounce, which means that it would be helped significantly by the use of the American method from the turn of the 20th Century (shaken, not stirred). In all, I'd say that the original recipe is very correct.
Also, not only is Gordon's significantly lower proof in the present day, but it's also been outright reformulated and American Gordon's and British Gordon's have always been different formulations to account for market preferences.
And yes, Vodka back then was typically 50 proof.
Like, I get that the craft of making cocktails has advanced significantly since the 50s, but this attitude that modern barkeepers know better than the people from the past and aren't obligated to try the original recipe in order to understand it is arrogant and ignorant. It needs to stop.
Trying swapping out the lemon peel for an orange peel, that could add some extra bitterness.
Vesper , italian Vespro, Mostly for church reference of "Vespri" those prey you say at evening.
How can anyone put on that apron after seeing it?
"shaken over ice" I am slightly embarrassed to admit, I thought he said "Shaken over rice" until I just saw this.
You must've been toasted after drinking 3 different kinds on martini lol
Maybe he's not a swallower
I always thought he asks for it shaken to dilute it more on purpose as to delay the effects of intoxication.
I thought the shaking was because in the cold war Bond was drinking oily Russian potato vodka
You need to do the drinks from the danger 5 episode 1
A bar near me serves the Lillet version of this and calls it the James Bond... when I order it I call it the Vesper and they just look at me puzzled. If they're gonna copy it they should use the right name
my favorite martini.
vespers sunset or evening prayers. An odd choice for Bond xx
I like quinine
I can't seem to find a definitive answer so can someone please tell me how many ounces 1 measure of alcohol/spirits is, is It the same as a Shot? I've always thought a Shot was 1oz but depending on you are it ranges from 3/4oz to 1.5oz. As for the difference between Martinis being Shaken or Stirred supposedly Gin reacts differently when Stirred vs Shaken, shaking a Martini supposedly helps mix the Vermouth better and if being mixed with cracked ice induces more water. A Classic Martini is never Shaken it's always Stirred which results in a Dryer and more Bitter tasting drink, the Bond Shaken Martini is a weaker tasting drink, Bond orders drinks that way to sound Snootier and more Arrogant ( like he needs help with that being a Brit).
I don't like Gin so Martinis are not my favorite but I can definitely taste the difference between Stirred and Shaken.
The " Measure" refers to whatever size of shot glass you use, bearing in mind the Volume doesn't matter so much as the Proportions. ( This drink in ounces is a LARGE martini, needing a fairly substantial glass). Better to say " One part Vodka to 3 parts Gordons". Shaken drinks tend to be a touch cloudier than a stirred, which usually will seem a bit more clear. And yes, Shaking dilutes more than stirring, but gets it colder faster, and necessitates the extra fine strainer to keep ice out of the drink, where stirring shouldn't produce too much slush or crystals that need more than your Julep/ Hawthorne strainer.
This doesn’t even feel like something taboo like alcohol, it feels like your uncle teaching you how make a treehouse c: I loce your channel man, keep going :D
if i dont have lileth what can i add ?
Cochin Americano is close. I used Bombay. Gordon’s is not a strong as the original
The reason Bond drank shaken martinis is because that's how Ian Fleming drank them.