Mounting an outboard motor
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- Опубліковано 5 жов 2024
- In this video Paul and I throw the Honda BF40 onto the transom of the Green Machine. We also then connect up the forward controls and give it another test start.
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Great advice, sometimes it's not a bad idea to install the steering cable before setting the motor. The cable may not have enough clearance to install if the motor is closer to the side of the boat, or spash well. You're great at making procedures easy to understand. General rule of thumb for installing a motor at the proper height is the cavitation plate should be even or one inch above the keel/bottom of the boat. Easy to do with the boat level and a straight edge. I've been a boat mechanic for many years, but still learn new things when I watch your videos. Thanks for passing on your knowledge
Without doubt the best channel on Utube to help novices and Pros alike!
I wish I had found your videos years ago. Would of saved me a lot of trial and error . But I enjoy them . you guys look like a fun bunch to hang out with .
Ah well, hope they can still help you now! :)
jeremy green ,u
Thanks for spending time to make these videos so I don't have to get real frustrated trying to figure out how to do it
You're welcome. :)
Thanks for posting these videos. Just got myself a 19ft Centerconsole boat with a 115 Mercury 2 stroke. The boat was sunk so it was relly cheap, and now the motor runs great, only need an new starter. It had been ordered so maybe on firday i will have it. And this channel is a great inspiration. So thanks again. Sorry for my bad english, i am from Norway.
Hey Roy, sounds like you also got a great deal. I'm glad the videos are helping you. Your English is excellent, much better than my Norwegian! :)
Hi Stu, your waterpump may be fine! I had a similar problem with my BF30. The flushing muffs can't supply enough water, due to the extra intake under the cavitation plate, Honda recommend a special fitting which delivers water directly into the pump, I find using a barrel of water works well, and saves buying a specialist part!
Really enjoying the vids, can't wait for more Honda four stroke ones, keep 'em coming.
Nick.
You're dead right Nick. I put it in a barrel yesterday and it pumped just fine. I'm never convinced a pump isn't working from muffs, they always seem a bit hit and miss.
I have had the same issue...as soon as the whole cavitation plate goes under it starts pumping via the telltale...crisis over
Watching you video and thanks for solving the problem I've been having...
I'm getting knowledge from UA-cam to collect idea's on how to build my own boat from scratch and you have solved my throttle thought for me..
Thanks a lot.
Dual mount 150hp installation
Mounting motor plate
...everything else I have already thought out..request videos for the two subjects above...
I like that your videos are detailed
Thanks Michael, glad the vids have been helping you.
Incredible, just a few hours and already almost 500 viewers!!!
People love you, congratulations....
Thanks Florencio, thanks for adding to the view count! :)
A real good choice with a Honda motor Stu, it will give you years of happy out-boarding, I was going to say, putt, putt, putting around but it will do better than that, also a good tip from Paul to re-charge an aerosol can. Nothing like a 'Pale' to get the job done.
Thanks Greg, I think it will run for many years yet. You've just reminded me that a mate of mine used to drink 'Sparkling' so we'd always order a port and starboard. ;)
I've been wrenching for 40 years and I never did that trick you guys did with the WD-40. It just goes to show that you can teach an old dog new tricks. Nice trick.
There's always one more trick lurking around the corner to learn. :)
@@DangarMarine yes and when you think you're too old to learn, you're too old period. ;-)
I love your videos it helps me a lot with restoring my outboards. I'm from the Netherlands and we also have a love for water. But there is no Dutchmen with the passion for outboards like you. You give me a smile with your positive and relaxed mentality:) keep on loving the life mate.
Thanks Vincent, I'm glad the videos are helping you. My mother emigrated from the Netherlands when she was a teenager and we have been there several times. Wonderful country. :)
Very cool to see that Honda on the GreenMachine. Great job!
Thanks Keon, can't wait to take it for a spin.
Can't wait to see that video as well. That motor looks and sound pretty amazing for $200!!!!
What a super nice guy. Love watching these really helpful videos. Thank you for putting such effort into them, it's really appreciated. Good on you bud.
Thanks Chris! Glad to hear you've been enjoying the videos. :)
Wow! Handy trick with the pressure can. Thats a lot of spray paint i am going to save, Thanks!
Glad to help
The most important thing to say here is excellent tshirt!
;)
Man what a great vid, I wish I could go back in time and save 3 days of google searches for all the info you just provided in 15min while we shared a beer or two.. Thanks Stu, You da man!
Thanks mate, glad the vid helped you. It was a pleasure having a beer together. :)
I love videos about the Green Machine! I just bought my first boat today actually, a halfcabin, 5 meters long, so i'm trying to get a hold of an outboard now. I really want a Yamaha 2stroke 50hp, don't ask me why though, think it's because my father used to have one and it worked so well!
Congratulations on your new boat! I'm sure plenty of people chose their outboards based on ones that have given them good service in the past. Nothing wrong with that.
like the trick to recharge the WD40
Great video I just bought a 115 hp mercury to replace my 50hp force on my pontoon.
That should do the job!
Dangar Marine I guess the best way to pick it up is flywheel since they are both mercury ? Hoping my controls swap over. 115 is a 94 and the 50 is a 1998
I’ve been a mechanic for most of my life but never had a boat. Any advice is appreciated
I could watch you guys all day! Thank you!
You're welcome. :)
Excellent as usual Stu. I usually use clear silicone or white/black Life Calk when mounting engines depending on the hull color.
Thanks Will. Matching the sealant to the hull colour is a nice touch. :)
I'm just working my way through all of your videos (very informative), I'm busy fitting out a boat so I was particularly interested in the electrical based vids, I've basically wired my boat the same way as you😁. My next job is to swap my motor from the Mariner 60 Bigfoot to a new evinrude e-tec 70, can't wait to get started, Stand by for questions 👍😉
Hey Darren, glad to hear you are enjoying the videos. Good luck with the new e-tec install!
Congratz Stu on the Honda!
Happy to see that you got the engine working. Hopefully it will serve you for a long time! :)
I hope so, too. So far all the signs are good. :)
Your videos are really great. Thank you so much.
You're welcome. :)
That Honda looks like it belongs on the Green Machine...certainly a great pickup and what a great team effort with your mate from the "deep river"... Nice feel good video. Hope the tell- tale sorts out..If not , refer to your previous tutorial hehe. BTW ..can't wait for the sea trial..
Ha! I'll be sure to chat that video out. As Nick mentioned, it turned out to be that the muffs just don't supply enough water, it worked fine in a barrel so that's good news. Getting close now!
really great video was really helpful just getting ready to fit my new outboard good timing
Hope the fitting goes well. What are you putting on?
It's been fitted to a princess Pilgrim 25 the inboard engine finally died but has been in since 1965 so has done well
That's a good run since '65 then. :)
i ve always been a fan of having 3mm rubber sheet between the motor and hull to minimize vibration and corrosion
Having something like that in there is a good idea. We often use 10mm polyboard when the transom is thin to give a bit of extra strength as well as insulation.
not a bad idea ether. do you know if outboards carry any electrical charge in the alloy casing?
Yes, the casing is ground, so if it contacts the hull at all the entire hull will also be ground. This is pretty much always the case due to the bracket clamps and the bolts going through the casing. The trick is to make sure that every device has a good negative lead back to the battery so the hull isn't the path of least resistance.
Awesome Job Stu! And, this video addresses a question I asked you about in a message about motor height if you recall about a month ago or so.
Oops, I hope I didn't miss your question! Glad it's answered now though. :)
Great vids bro im learning so much i started to take my mariner 150 apart for a little look see thanks for the inspiration .
Thanks mate. Good luck with the Mariner. :)
great to see you're new outboard on mate !
all the best with it
best wishes from Scotland
Thanks mate, I can't wait to take it for a run now! :)
Thanks for replying so quickly mate. Love all your vids ! I got a 7 meter RIB last year and with the help from you I'll have it ready for next summer
Nice! I'm a big fan of RHIBs, they are great boats to drive. Good luck getting it all up and running.
A new motor is always great!! You should upload a first sea trial video!! And great work on your videos mate
Will definitely be filming the launch. I can't wait now!
Never knew you guys were so good at mounting 20inch shafts, or lubricating rods.. I did have my suspicions though. Hahaha...
Is that why you haven't visited in so long? We're still waiting for that dive trip! :)
+Dangar Marine haha! I'm definitely going to get there. Missing the humour, they don't laugh at my jokes in Singapore
New to your channel. Very informative and a great watch, from Naples Florida.
Thanks Andrew!
Best videos ever thank you!
Thanks Steven!
Love these Pride awareness clips 👍. Great information, cheers 🌈
E36 in the background. Woo woo .
Enjoying watch your videos
Nice outboard
Thanks mate.
I wish you did this for every motor so we could learn hahah... doing DT40 converting from tiller to remote control on a power renewal from an old 80s dt40 to new... there seems to be some type of kit but wondering if I can bodge something up now after seeing this vid
You can always bodge something. ;)
@@DangarMarine YOU can! Not the rest of us hahaha... my mate 'Paul' and I yanked off the old DT40 over the weekend... only too realise that the lads at Suzuki made the gear selector and throttle assembly inside the cover now... because then you can buy their silly conversion kit... we are hoping to do something on the drag link so it fits (they also relocated the screw hole on the handle part of the motor housing so you needed another kit)... another issue you pointed out was the height of the blades to reduce drag/cavitation - do you have any handy ways to increase the motor height by 2 inches or so? Wish you were somewhere close to Bris/Goldy mate you are a wealth of knowledge. I first found you on the vid you did about the renaming of a vessel according to Poseidon's leger and it was one of the more detailed explanations of the process. Thanks again
I love the shop, I am jealous!!
Thanks mate, it certainly is nice to have a bit more space finally, but it could always be bigger, still gets cluttered!
I only just noticed the T - Shirt ... priceless
;)
@@DangarMarine And your dedication has been rewarded......... Cleaver has indeed been freed. 😂👍
What a bargain at 200dollars!! Nice one Stu!
It was a great deal. I was lucky to be in the right place at the right time.
The Green Machine looking fine.....
Thanks! It's slowly starting to come together. Can't wait to see the seats in now. :)
Looks like an old de Havilland Offshore runabout. My dad had one with a 70 Yamaha on it. Went well. Had some great fishing trips in it.
It is indeed, great hull.
Harika video olmus. Sayende hangi parca eksik onu gördüm. Keske baslik kismina honda bf 50 falan yazsaydin. Basarilarinin devamini dilerim
Great clips - I going to research how Cleaver Green is when its over.
motor sounds great
Thanks Peter, it's still running nicely too! :)
how much was your steering system? iv looked it up and seen them for $500 up to $4000 on ebay
Another good video for information and entertainment value. Hope the telltale was easily sorted? I’d love a Honda outboard but they’re so expensive lol
Yeah, it was just a bit of blockage at the outlet. At least this Honda was cheap!
I have same motor and problems with cooling. Would be happy to see how do you fix the cooling in this outboard... or at least hear how you did it... but great videos. Subscribed :)
In the end I didn't need to do anything. Once the leg was in a drum it started pumping just find. As somebody mentioned in another comment the Hondas don't run too well on muffs due to an extra intake underneath. Does yours pump on the water?
Also, this video might help you with your cooling problem if you haven't already seen it. ua-cam.com/video/dx8_xP30aSY/v-deo.html
That was the first video i watched when looking solutions to my problem :) Tested it in a barrel, no problem. good stream on tell tale and t-stat worked... Tested it on a lake today and overheat alarm went off... Seems like its overheating only under load... I now suspect too low water pressure is the problem because at idle the water never reaches the t-stat, only when accelerating.
Great video, thanks for working through the process step by step. I'd like to know where you picked that up for $200!
Thanks mate. I was lucky with this outboard. The boat it was on sunk and the insurance company paid for the owner to buy a brand new one so he was happy to part with this one for next to nothing.
Dangar Marine ahh, I see. Great luck for you :) I just bought my first boat, an old Caribbean Sandpiper (I've been round boats my whole life but this one is mine) but it's in perfect condition with a brand new transom and floor. The plate recommends an 85hp motor. I've been offered a Suzuki DT115 for next to nothing , is it too big for my boat? Local boat mechanic says it will be fine but I'm not so sure :/ Any advice welcomed.
Entertaining to say the least
Thumbs up for these guys :)
Thanks mate. :)
Stu. that I know of all bolt's nuts should be installed inside transom, not outside. If nuts become loose won't be seeing them, risk motor to deviate away from transom into the ocean. Inside it's a much better place to re torque all nuts from time to time if in need to do it while combo is under way.
Outside is much easier to see and get to on most boats.
Stu, When you fit an outboard, what is a good height. Should the cavitation plate be in line with the bottom of the hull as a start point. I am checking my motor height and come across this video on the Green Machine,
Are you now saying the cavitation plate does not be inline with the.bottom of the V of the hull like its been recomomended for the past 45 years that I know of?
I put a new Tohatsu 9.8 HP on my father’s aluminum boat last year. It gets the boat up on plane nicely and will cruise about 16 MPH until you open it up to wide open throttle, then the bow is pushed down and it begins to plow through the water. Both the boat and motor are short shaft, but dad’s old boat is exactly 15” on the transom. The anti-cavitation plate is 1-1 1/2” below the bottom of the transom. I’ve tried adjusting the angle of the tilt on the motor with little change. Is the motor too low in the water? Thanks and I enjoy your videos.
I'm so glad I found your videos they are a great tool to help me out with my boat. but one thing I'm nervous about doing the work any suggestions on how to help me out?
Best thing you can do is start with the smaller jobs like changing spark plugs etc until you get your confidence up. Once you get familiar with the basic components as well as basic concepts sure as torquing bolts up tight enough and using the right sealants etc you will start to be ready tackle some of the bigger jobs. I should do a video soon on some of the basic skills you will need.
You know what gauge that piece of aluminum is going from side to side holding the steering and gauges on the dash? My boat is similar, but it has rotted wood from the 60s. I really like the aluminum look, really cool boat very much the same as the one I’m playing with a 62 Crestliner Scout.
I'd say it is about 3mm thick. With that dash I sanded it clean and then sprayed some clear coat from an auto parts store to stop it oxidising.
In minute 13:41 you point out the metal piece that I need, can you specify a name or show me the piece?
hey mate If you ever travel to Scotland your welcome to stay in our home with me and my missis and family. oh and do a engine service hehe
I'll swap a engine service for a bed and a few drams of Laphroaig. ;)
Do you get cavertations even at low speeds ! Say on a river with a speed limit ? Surely this wouldn't be a issue ?
I found a alum boat in florida in 1983 ish at scuba show .
The out board motor was mounted infront of center consul making this boat have a tunnel hull 3/4 and a moon deck in rear for fuel tank . The boat was 32’ long 102” wide all alum .. if any info let me know .
I ordered one but had to cancel do to width but now its legal on road
I used spray white lithium grease inside the exposed door-latch mechanism of my RV Driver's door and every metal part become covered with rust within a couple weeks.
I have a pontoon boat, can I use the same measuring strategy by pulling a string across the bottom of the tubes and checking the cavitation plate height..thx
What is the part called that hooks up to the the motor that pushes water so you don’t over heat and mess parts up it hooks to the water hose and hooks to the part that sucks the water in to keep the engine cool
Great stuff love your videos ... is a cavitation plate and anti-ventilation really the same thing? It stops air from getting to the prop. Cavitation is really the "boiling" of water off the prop as it moves from high pressure to low pressure (which is normal I think).
Thanks mate. This video goes through a bit more of cavitation vs ventilation thing. ua-cam.com/video/R2f-aWM8MmU/v-deo.html
Another great video. What about the positioning in terms of sideways and end on angle. Should it be actually offset by an inch or so from the boat centre line then angled in so the prop remains on centre. I understood that helped with the torque of the prob trying to twist the boat.
Can't say I've ever seen a boat with the outboard angled like that. Generally the weight of the driver counter acts the prop torque.
Dangar Marine .. Thanks. that makes sense. It was a setup handed over from a ski racing provider here in the UK. Probably serves overpowered rigs. May I thank you for the quality of what you do online. I was enthusing to my GF about how great it is you start a video with a low-key task... then it all blows up with 'fix' diversions, representing the real world of shitty outboard nuts and bolts that won't play ball. Yeah... she's only interested in our boat 'working' .. jeez !
thanks stu
Welcome!
Great series. I'm following with interest as tidy up my boat this winter. Your advice is great. Curious about your thoughts or experience on adjustable jack plates as a means to alter the height of the motor? I fish in some shallow spots it'd be nice to get in further to some smaller reaches. Always looking forward to your next video. Cheers
Thanks Greg. I don't have any experience with jack plates, but in theory they should give you the best of both worlds. Like anything though I imagine it comes down to installing something of high enough quality to do the job well.
I would love to know where I could get similar control ends that used the R clips on the two control cables (throttle and gear selector cables) at 12:52. Thank you.
I'm not sure where these came from. Maybe Honda original? These nut types are the only ones I can find now. www.ebay.com.au/itm/124755351986
everything looks great except where do you hook your lifting chain on the motor?
Why did you decide to use white lithium grease? Whats the advantage?
congrats, a well done job` and an economical outcome, whoe,s a clever boy.
Im thinking about getting a boat, but I am not good at mechanical things. I saw an ad online about a small used boat. The ad said "small sports boat" Without engine and gas lever. Im wondering is it hard to fit an engine to the back of the boat? How do you connect the gas lever to the engine? The gas lever is over by the steeringwheel. And do you need a separate gas tank or is that somehow built into the engine.
Well done to both of you
Hey Dangar.
I have a dilemma. I want to buy a outboard for my 14ft. John boat, and I have 2 choices to buy a 8hp 1991 Suzuki or a 18hp 1967 evinrude. which one do you recommend.?
8 hp
rafael matos i have a 14 ft lone star and I have a 1956 10hp sportwin I would recommend the 18
turning a pigs ear into a silk purse - keep up the good work :)
Is there a reason for putting the mounting bolt nuts on the outside of the boat?
Good question. Personally I think it comes down to the ability to get tools in. Access is easier on the outside of the transom so the nuts are usually there to allow ratchets or air tools to get in, but it doesn't really matter, the clamping force is the same.
It could just be clogged line but would go ahead get new impeller and keep on one if any good...but still need to unclog tell tale to see waterflow I read it exits thru exhust which is the prop
Hi Great vids so cool the way you work and the knowledge, you must have started very young. Bolting the outboard in to out .... Does this matter ?? I thought I might use a security bolt and hide the nut end inside the boat. Cheers Jon
Im mounting a 115hp 4stroke on a 20ft alumaweld how far should it be below the hull?
Could you please tell me how much the compression of the 2004 honda 40 hp to carburetors must be thanks 1000 Tony
if you mount the outboard to high it will start to ventilate (suck air)
Cavitation it's something else.
Ah, yes, must have mispoken in that video. This video goes into details on the difference ua-cam.com/video/R2f-aWM8MmU/v-deo.html
Have you got a video of converting the green machine to front steer ?
It was always front steer.
re: putting sikaflex on the mounting bracket where it meets the outside of the transom.
I'm remounting an 85hp Evinrude on my 16" Glastron trihull as the holes with the lower bolts had slight leak (and were typically under water). Since this is a fiberglass boat, is there any reason to use it in this case? I will, of course, put it in the holes before the mounting bolts are reinstalled.
Thanks. RichE
+Gogle Plus Sucks I don't think it is as important as with an aluminium hull, but it certainly wouldn't hurt from a vibration point of view, particularly if you already have the tube open to do the bolt holes.
Thanks!
great video I learned a lot but when you started it up it sound like you didn't throw it up good
Thanks mate. What do you mean by "throw it up?"
Any idea how long sikaflex in the transom holes needs to be left before the boat can be put in the water?
Sikaflex recommend 24 hours.
Hello, where to start, 2 melted impellers later on a 50hp honda 4 stroke after 20 seconds, has me lost to next move. Its on a lil hobo, and no water from pee hold using muffs or barrel causing blown engine, 120, 110 100 compression, 25' shaft with no chance of finding a motor and all I want to do is get out on the lake! Ang suggestions?? I'm just a 70 year old gal who wants to go fishing!!lolol
Stu, Again a nice video de mystifying some of the work that a dealer normally does and most boat owners never do .In regards to the height debate. On a 4 stroke I believe this is not an issue, but on 2 strokes how much difference would a higher than suggested engine mount make to the idle settings? I know I can't adjust idle setting on my 2 stroke 50hp engine unless the boat is in the water due to the exhaust back pressure having having an effect on the intake air/fuel volume. A suggestion for a future 'fit and try' product - how about a bit of an expose on the cavitation plate ' whale tails'?
Hey Ron, yes, the exhaust on two stroke motors is very finely tuned, that's for sure. Given the Honda doesn't have an after market cavitation plate on it I'll drive it around for a while to get a feel for it then put one on and see what difference it makes. It would be interesting to see, but apparently they can affect different hulls very differently so my results may not be the same as other boats.
Hello i see all yours videos and really enjoy. I have a question i have a evinrude 9.9 1982 i don't used for about 2 years now am try to start and is dead i install a new carburetor kit. I check the fuel pump and is good . I replaced the sparks plug , new gas. And is impossible to start i have spark. What You thinking can't be . Thanks
I would try sparking starter fluid in. If it runs for a moment it is fuel. If there is spark but it won't run even with fluid it could be low compression, bad reed valves or even something like the flywheel having slipped ua-cam.com/video/eNPfuLXCgys/v-deo.html
how would u add a steering cable to an 6hp johnson motor without steering tube? id appreciate the help
I never said thanks for you trying to help me with my yamaha 40 weird problem, I brought it to a professional (last resort) and that shit heal straight up quit. I just wanted to say thanks.
Frank
You're welcome Frank, sorry to hear the trip to the professional didn't help.
Stu been watching a ton of your videos and i just recently "proper boat " and my new honda outboard its only 14ft boat with 15hp honda but have been fixing boat as transom was completely rotten to the point its just soft so i re done the transom and now want to bolt the engine on so i dont have to lift it on and off every time , is that adhesive you are using called "Soudal T-TREX High Grab Panel Adhesive" ?? if so would that be best stuff to use ? Never worked with boat or engine in my life so need all the help i can get haha i been learning fast and so far everything has worked out fine , lucky the engine is perfect just boat that needs the work
Hi mate, congrats on your new boat. I was a T-Rex sealant we used, but I'm not sure of the exact type. The name certainly sounds familiar.
Thanks Stu , ill try that stuff :)
The transom has a bow in it
Hi I was wandering can transom bolts be re torqued after they have already been torqued? just to make sure they are still tight ?......Thanks
Sure, no problem with doing that.
How much torque to mount it back on the boat?
excellent Tee shirt..
Wd40 just dries out, u should use some good quality grease.
Bună seara!ce dimensiuni are tăblița, opritorul de la cele douo tije, accelerație si în viteză de la motor ?
prop slippage is not called cavatate, its ventilate.cavating is the pressure on the front side of prop,causing water to boil, which causes damage to blades. ventilate is when you loose bite from lack of water from prop surfacing.