@@PeterRedhill me too, the moment they announced the boost and the paid character copy I was so mad. They had got everything right and then they ruined it with their microtransaction bullshit
@@PeterRedhill I love it when people talk shit about Activision-Blizzard they call them Activision, but when they're defending them they call them Blizzard lol
@@SigvaldScionofSuccubi I doubt every streamer is an a-level actor who can just flip a switch and be completely fake and even see how that fake persona would react in certain situations. Most if not all persona's are just an extension / exaggeration of their real self.
After WoD, and especially after Tom Chilton left (and Ion takes over), all the expansion is and will be shit. I played WoD until the end. But I didn't play Legion until the end. Legion, BfA and Shadowlands are the 3 worst WoW expansions. The problem with WoD was that more than half of the content was cut off. I am absolutely sure that all post-Shadowland expansions will be bad. Because the current Blizzard team is bad.
@@joaaocaampos Don't state your shitty ass opinion as if it was a fact. Your mindset is shit and will remain shit, the xpacs are fine. Even BFA was okay, all you people know is how to whine instead of enjoying the game. Everything has to be on your terms, doesn't it? "We want PvP vendors back" We want less loot but more quality items" "We want tier sets" "We want you to remove pathfinder" "Make Torghast layers account wide" "Make Torghast easier cause our boomers skills can't keep up" "Make class balancing similar to MoP where everyone oneshot everyone; oh, you made it like that? Let's now bitch about how everything oneshots everything in arena, yea!" "Hey Blizz, nerf this class, nerf that class, nerf this class too" Oh, all Blizz knows how to do is nerf classes, nothing I play is viable anymore" " Hurr durr mIcRoTrAnSaCtIoNS bullshit" "Classic was so much better, TBC was so much better, Wotlk was so much better even though I found something to bitch about back then as well" "Hey, bring back Valor system so we can make dungeon gear relevant too since PvPers and Raiders are getting everything; nah, I don't like it. It's not made based on my rules, how dare you choose what to do with your own game!!!!?!?!?!" Hey Blizz, can you go on your knees and suck our dicks too? Go fuck yourself already, stupid whining cunts.
I liked pally, including ret pally, most during TBC: pre-lich king 3.0 prepatch. I liked the multiple seals and judgements. Another reason I'm looking forward to playing TBC Classic.
@@ShadowFri3nd was pretty good in wotlk too, primordial saronite/crusader orb gear was a great starter 264 ilvl/ 245 ilvl the equivalent of icc 25 normal/toc 35 normal, and in some cases, they even had better stats than raid drops.
Blizzard has changed from "Make a great expansion at any cost" to "Make an expansion good enough for the first several months and trying to fix it so it can last until the next one come out". And the cycle repeats. I really hope with OW2 and D4 coming out filling the gap, the WOW team can take their time to sharpen a really good expansion(hopefully with upgraded graphics) to reinvigorate the passion within the players that has been lost along with the confidence as well as the trust with Blizzard.
Honestly man I'm not gonna give wow more money, once the next big MMO comes out (looking at New World and AOC) I'll jump ship. It's way outdated and the writers have to continue writing about that one little thing that they forgot to clear up. BFA was based off of azeroth's blood and SL was based off of the origins of some 5 man boss. IMO Legion was the final clear all for the story of the world. I derive my enjoyment from the game as a lore fanatic and after Legion it didn't create that spark of interest anymore. Not to mention, but there are more caring devs or at the very least, a more caring publisher watching over these devs that allow them to express creativity compared to the recipe WoW has been running and as a game developer myself that's what creates the best games. In a more direct response, I don't think Blizzard is going to change their quality. OW has been without updates for 2 years now and OW 2 is looking to add 1 more hero then that's the end of their innovation. What draws this conclusion is in their showcase they mentioned "We really felt as though we were missing a weapon archetype to fill and Sojurn has fulfilled that roll". D4 I have small faith in as it's going the same route as WoW with the writers going off of that one little thing. Probably gonna be some kid snorting up the death angel's remains and suddenly he's the next Diablo. Beating a dead horse, wait no, they've found out that after beating the horse so much that it turned to dust that turns out to be a great solvent for the philospher's stone. Not the feeling that encaptured me all those years and their actions as well as their proposed actions for the future are telling me that I won't like it even if I gave them 10 years to work on a new game.
I love how he ranks the best expansions and basically puts them all in the order they released. I mean I know it's true but it's still funny to hear it from him.
@@savvygames5474 Ok, why do you think it might as well be in a new series? The whole point of SL is to expand upon the Warcraft Cosmos by showing us the cosmic realms that exist outside the physical planes of reality.
Most important thing he didnt say... If u want to be a healer at pvp, pick a pact X legendary 0, if u want to be a dps at pvp, pick pact Y and legendary 2, if u wanto to be a dps at pve, pick pact X with legendary 3, but if u want to be a tank, pick pact Z with legendary 4... Of course if u like all those contents, like i do (wish i had a chance to play as tank, dps and heal sometimes), just spent 2 zilions hours of ur life farming legendarys, gold and time to grind some renown, but it's not enough... Why?? cause Every fucking week there's an update that screws up some meta shit and u have to do it all over again, wtf blizzard??... Why cant they just make classes fun to play instead of wasting time to balance shit as pact and legendary... The thing is, blizzard doesnt want u to have fun... They want u to spent as much time as possible so they can make more money But dont worry, blizzard... The expansion is great... We love those one shot arenas, so fucking cool, great idea...
Shadowlands is good at the begining, but the content drought hit hard already. It feels like a repetitive expansion, the only 4 zones are so mono-thematic, being all day in your coven or in oribos (a really dull city imo)... It gets boring with time.
You know Pilav used to play on a private server called molten wow, now its called warmane. He paid for full end game and would do pre-made full of ICC hc gear teams. He must have spent about 5 k on gear.
Yeah I pretty much feel that.. Except I enjoyed BFA more (even if 8.3 was the worst patch I've ever experienced). With news about the PTR just reusing the Legendaries appearances I really feel like this is a "fuck it" expansion for Blizzard. I get covid is hampering development but wow; I hate all the leather except for CN. I really hope they turn the expansion around in the next two patches though but I'm afraid it's going to be another 2 years of waiting for a good WoW expansion pack.
@@vigilr6595 MoP for me is the best. When the major problem of the expansion is the panda race, you know its good. PvP godlike, class design one of the best and most fun, pve so good (it has 2 of the best raids), daily content also good, and story i'd say ok at the very least. What more do you want ? Also i think Cata was way better then people think, probably because it was the first expansion to truly show who was an actual good player and who was the trash and casual, as the raids began to be actual hard with actual mechanics on a regular basis, pvp was one of the best and class design was also fun
@@Ar1AnX1x I mean... The Art and Music is cool (Then again, it's always nice), and it's nice to see Blizzard expanding the Warcraft cosmos, but...gameplay wise? Yeah, you right.
Blizzard: people now get rewarded for being good at pvp Players: haha lets take all the fun out of this and abuse pvp gear by boosting people into a high item lvl for mythic raiding
What are you on about?, its not abusing anything, there's nothing wrong with boosting, pvp gear at the start fo the expansion was too good not to chase for, and some people dont want to sink time into it, so instead of complaining on forums they just pulled out their 10 million gold they got from boosting last tier to buy 2400 instead.
Me and my friend played as 200 ilvl balance Druids to 2100 in 3s the other day with just convoke. My other friend hit 2400 the other day before Ele Shaman got buffed as he has never done PvP before. It’s literally not the class except in the case of my balance druids, but mostly the fact that if you know how to play it doesn’t matter what class you are doing it on.
i used to grind mats for BOE trinkets ...ah the days. Edit: MCconnel coming into the stream to prove that he isnt being insecure while all the time proving the original point.. sigh.
Shadowlands is just BFA part 2. Don't get me wrong, there's some cool shit to do every now and then, but it's still the same infinite grind that existed within BFA. It's still the same essence system where people get fucked over by rng.
big true on vanilla wow. all my gear was from pvp and hitting grand marshal on my warrior. then i joined a pve guild got 2.5 and some tier 3. then in tbc same thing. i got all my gear from arena and bg's that was just as good if not better then pve gear. so ya big fucking true
TBC Legion Cataclysm Mop Bfa Wotlk Wod Too early to rate shadowlands and i haven’t played vanilla, only played classic, if i had to rate classic i ‘d say between wotlk and bfa
@@lucadesanctis563 Bitching and more bitching; too casual to grind your own keys? Or no friends to play with? No patience to wait for an hour in Que until you get a decent group? Do not bullshit with "I can't get any gear to do m+" cause you can literally buy HALF the gear of AH if you are willing to farm gold for like half a month or so doing callings + professions; second, you have Covenant gear and a system that allows you to up gear from 184 to 220 if you commit hard enough can be done in literally a week. Raid is ass, I'll agree on that. Everything else is lucrative in terms of loot and you can easily grind up to 215 ilvl which should in turn allow you to push high keys and do high rated PvP. Your issue is that you are afraid to admit that this game is no longer for you and whatever Blizzard does to satisfy you whiners is never going to be enough. Just do us all a favour and quit the game already. Thank you.
@@masteroffmuppets666Sitting at max ilvl, got all +15s, progressing through mythic still, theres nothing worthwhile to do until 9.1 which is what, like 2+ months away? Oh wait, I still have my daily calling and maw quests, nvm then
@@emllik2155 Go play something else until the new patch hits. What? You think someone gives a shit you have nothing left to do in a game once you're done with meta achievements? No. There has to be a content draught at some point. Did you complete the Skyrim storyline and then bitched about how there's no more content there as well?
20:30, Saavix was also saying that Word of Glory was too underpowered in the beta, and it didn't heal nearly enough, now it can bring someone from 5% to 100% Saavis also said that Shield of Vengeance was too underpowered and that atleast people were scared of hitting thorns. Now it absorbs an insane amount, and can crit for 25-30k if you decide to burst through it. Saavix got most of what he was whining about, because Blizz listened that ret palas had problems, just not the mobility. Problem is, they weren't supposed to be invincible gods if they can also burst people from 100 to 0, so with all those things that Saavix requested (and actually got), they should have nerfed the dmg to fit these buffs. McCucks arguments are completely invalid, because he decides to ONLY mention that they wanted more mobility, which isn't an argument at all, and isn't what paladins are supposed to be about.
Shadowlands so far is in the worst 3 expansions for me. As it is right now I'd say its the 2nd worst expansion behind BFA maybe it will redeem itself later but it will probably stay in the worst expansions. I couldnt even stomach a month and a half of Shadowlands it was so god damn boring.
I PLAY RET but i dont like it and yes it is pretty frickin good. i like my warlock more, but I do feel when something is unbalanced, and I chose pala because i wanted to try something else, but I dont actually play ret, i play holy and wank around in bgs. I felt it was insane compared to warlock, i did.
Blizzard has good ideas about as often as blind squirrels find nuts. Currently came back to TBC classic. Wasn't sure if i wanted to try retail out or not and thank you Asmon for letting me know that not playing shadowlands ever is the proper decision. Thank you
If this expansion is so good, why are people talking so much about other MMORPGs, polls show a dwindling population and everyone complain about anima. Honeymoons ended, now comes divorce.
Yeah, People seem to forget Legion also had its problems at the start and got better as the expansion went on, Shadowlands is certainly already better (!!in goddamn 9.0!!) than the entirety of BfA or WoD and even has a good chance to surpass Legion and become 3rd place best Expansion after TBC and Wrath IMO. My ranking atm: TBC>Wrath>Legion>SL>MoP>Cata>BfA>WoD (maybe I have a personal irrational hatred against Cata for "killing the good old WoW" and it probably could rank higher though)
@@FimbongBass What? That SL has more potential than Legion? Because grinding AP to unlock abilities that should be class-baseline, or getting shit RNG with your legendary drops that could potentially bench you in your raidgroup for weeks was so much fun in early Legion. Sure, non of those problems existed in 7.2 or 7.3, but at the start of the expansion Legion had several major issues that shouldn't be ignored. While I can't make a judgement about the entire expansion right now, personally I'd say 9.0 is a better patch than 7.0.
lol damn last night, my teammate and I got one-shot from full health at the same time by a boomkin. I think there are a lot of broken classes out there.
@@FimbongBass but it's still shit.. And when I timed keys in BFA items dropped (except for Getikku, but due to the rarity of that weapon I could agree with its low drop rate). Here u run kkeys billions of times for. Nothing?
"Ret paladins are not defensive" Mcconnel says as he goes on a 5 minute rant about how ret Paladins are not defensive. Mcconnel was defending Ret 2 months ago crying it was perfectly balanced. He only changed his tune when it became so absurd that he would look stupid defending his position. This is how all ret paladins behave, it's one of their passive abilities.
This comment is why Ret Paladins dislike the majority that have an aggressive vendetta against them for no apparently reason. Blizzard made Ret the way it is, not the players. Alpha/Beta forums prove it. “We want X” but they make em more bursty? Lol.
I like shadowlands there is..... alot to do. yeah that is why i quit 6 months ago. too much to do. everyday was like this: come home do dailies, farm Torghast 2 hours later. ask friend if he wants to play some arena. nah im gonna go get some dinner, but cu tommorrow. day after repeat the dailies. ask again and nope, no more time. alot of ...stuff to do.
BC > wrath > vanilla > classic > legion > MoP > cata > shadowlands = BFA = WoD shadowlands is just as trash a BFA but i dont know if its really worse that WoD.
People take about WOD and BFA being bad but shadowlands is on so many levels the worst and probably crippled the game worse then it ever has. Hope everyone at blizzard loses their job
Shadowlands was so good I quit Wow and I have absolutely no desire to go back, but I will still watch Asmon.
Same. Waiting for tbc classic atm
Same, bro!
@@PeterRedhill me too, the moment they announced the boost and the paid character copy I was so mad. They had got everything right and then they ruined it with their microtransaction bullshit
@@PeterRedhill it sucks seeing the news of blizzard employees being laid off after the CEO made 200m plus bonuses
@@PeterRedhill I love it when people talk shit about Activision-Blizzard they call them Activision, but when they're defending them they call them Blizzard lol
Mcconnel coming into the stream to talk about how he isn't insecure after pilav makes a joke at his expense is perfect irony.
The cope is real
Stage persona, everyone in asmons circle has a "streamer mode" persona
@@SigvaldScionofSuccubi I doubt every streamer is an a-level actor who can just flip a switch and be completely fake and even see how that fake persona would react in certain situations. Most if not all persona's are just an extension / exaggeration of their real self.
Berth THANK YOU
@SpaceDots He’s not crashing the stream, Asmongold says he’s welcome any time. He’s popped in and out like that for years, MCcool is a chill dude.
Dude i miss Pilav so much.
What happened to him?
no one knows at this point, he deleted his discord and he also switched his yt's description to What a journey or smth, so i guess its over@@DetestTV
Damn that's really depressing.
Same
HES BACK
I love how asmond doesn't even mention warlords once when it came to rating the expansions.
Or BFA XD
that is because wod and bfa are probably the worst
War-what?
Hey thats when I quit retail forever and will play classic tbc, see you in Nagrand
Cause it was obviously the best
Lol first thirty days of expansion "BEST EVER" 2-3 months after "Every previous one was better". Every time.
After WoD, and especially after Tom Chilton left (and Ion takes over), all the expansion is and will be shit. I played WoD until the end. But I didn't play Legion until the end. Legion, BfA and Shadowlands are the 3 worst WoW expansions. The problem with WoD was that more than half of the content was cut off.
I am absolutely sure that all post-Shadowland expansions will be bad. Because the current Blizzard team is bad.
Don't forget 2 expacs later when the shit expac becomes the old gem in the community's eyes. I thought it wasn't possible for WoD, but here we are lol
@@Toadiferous the new one is so shit the old one is gem in comparison
@@joaaocaampos WOD was the worst expansion ever no content after a couple months lol you’re just a boomer bud
@@joaaocaampos Don't state your shitty ass opinion as if it was a fact. Your mindset is shit and will remain shit, the xpacs are fine. Even BFA was okay, all you people know is how to whine instead of enjoying the game. Everything has to be on your terms, doesn't it? "We want PvP vendors back" We want less loot but more quality items" "We want tier sets" "We want you to remove pathfinder" "Make Torghast layers account wide" "Make Torghast easier cause our boomers skills can't keep up" "Make class balancing similar to MoP where everyone oneshot everyone; oh, you made it like that? Let's now bitch about how everything oneshots everything in arena, yea!" "Hey Blizz, nerf this class, nerf that class, nerf this class too" Oh, all Blizz knows how to do is nerf classes, nothing I play is viable anymore" " Hurr durr mIcRoTrAnSaCtIoNS bullshit" "Classic was so much better, TBC was so much better, Wotlk was so much better even though I found something to bitch about back then as well" "Hey, bring back Valor system so we can make dungeon gear relevant too since PvPers and Raiders are getting everything; nah, I don't like it. It's not made based on my rules, how dare you choose what to do with your own game!!!!?!?!?!" Hey Blizz, can you go on your knees and suck our dicks too?
Go fuck yourself already, stupid whining cunts.
At least Asmon knows TBC and Wrath are the best.
didn't he say the same thing about Classic lol ?
@@agentsmith5480 Classic isn't an expansion lol.
@@agentsmith5480 classic wasn't an expansion bro
@@z3r0f4Lc0n it is still a different experience from the rest.
@@bigweeweehaver So? Its not an expansion so he didnt mentioned it ok?
I liked pally, including ret pally, most during TBC: pre-lich king 3.0 prepatch. I liked the multiple seals and judgements. Another reason I'm looking forward to playing TBC Classic.
Finally, I waited for this
YES, RAID PROFESSION BUILT BOEs
Make Crafting Relevant Again
@@ShadowFri3nd this is why everyone is excited to finally go back home
@@ShadowFri3nd was pretty good in wotlk too, primordial saronite/crusader orb gear was a great starter 264 ilvl/ 245 ilvl the equivalent of icc 25 normal/toc 35 normal, and in some cases, they even had better stats than raid drops.
Blizzard has changed from "Make a great expansion at any cost" to "Make an expansion good enough for the first several months and trying to fix it so it can last until the next one come out". And the cycle repeats. I really hope with OW2 and D4 coming out filling the gap, the WOW team can take their time to sharpen a really good expansion(hopefully with upgraded graphics) to reinvigorate the passion within the players that has been lost along with the confidence as well as the trust with Blizzard.
It will never happen, WoW is way too garbage at this point, a complete restart and overhaul, a WoW 2 would need to be made at this point
@Mouse what does the story have to do with how good the expansion content is ? Saying SL is bad because of the story (not like any1 cares) is dumb
@Mouse are you stupid or sumn? The story is the same as in the source materials. Stop blaming "sjw" for everything.
@Mouse found the right wing moron!
Honestly man I'm not gonna give wow more money, once the next big MMO comes out (looking at New World and AOC) I'll jump ship. It's way outdated and the writers have to continue writing about that one little thing that they forgot to clear up. BFA was based off of azeroth's blood and SL was based off of the origins of some 5 man boss. IMO Legion was the final clear all for the story of the world. I derive my enjoyment from the game as a lore fanatic and after Legion it didn't create that spark of interest anymore. Not to mention, but there are more caring devs or at the very least, a more caring publisher watching over these devs that allow them to express creativity compared to the recipe WoW has been running and as a game developer myself that's what creates the best games.
In a more direct response, I don't think Blizzard is going to change their quality. OW has been without updates for 2 years now and OW 2 is looking to add 1 more hero then that's the end of their innovation. What draws this conclusion is in their showcase they mentioned "We really felt as though we were missing a weapon archetype to fill and Sojurn has fulfilled that roll". D4 I have small faith in as it's going the same route as WoW with the writers going off of that one little thing. Probably gonna be some kid snorting up the death angel's remains and suddenly he's the next Diablo. Beating a dead horse, wait no, they've found out that after beating the horse so much that it turned to dust that turns out to be a great solvent for the philospher's stone. Not the feeling that encaptured me all those years and their actions as well as their proposed actions for the future are telling me that I won't like it even if I gave them 10 years to work on a new game.
McCool got a new mic. Sounds crisp and clear.
19:13 - Asmon calls it and mcconnell proves his point lmao
"Theyre most insecure dood."
"OKAY Stop."
@@lyuris277 LOOOL
"Ret paladins can be some of the most insecure-"
"As a Ret Paladin I need to interrupt your stream to defend what's left of our self esteem.
I'm here now, when asmongold no longer consider shadowlands very good.
I love how Asmongold goes .. full disclosure, I paid to win and this is how I did it. It makes me a better player.
I love how he ranks the best expansions and basically puts them all in the order they released. I mean I know it's true but it's still funny to hear it from him.
When Pilav is on point and not being a spaz to cater to 12 year olds, he really is untouchable and this video was proof of that.
Dude has some true comedic talent and timing. Ive yet to find someone else who isn't a professional comic that can make me laugh so uncontrollably.
@@TheMcal9909 Yessir I 1000% agree with you.
Shadowlands is so bad that I'm no longer addicted to wow and can finally concentrate on other things
Shadowlands is not bad youre just bored with the game but too dumb to realize it so you blame the game.
@@LordsUther you got real mad beacuse your dogshit game got called out
@@misi111 "got called out" kekw
@@misi111 ?
@@LordsUther shadowlands is the worst than any expansion, ppl are quit wow.
Mc's rage gland swelled up and popped.
I can’t stop laughing this guy saying he not insecure as he keeps losing it
As a croatian, his serbian comments were hilarious hahaha.
HOLY SHIT MCCOOL'S MIC
Just make it so pvp gear has no stats during any content outside of pvp ?
Shadowlands may as well be a new series in a new world other than Warcraft lol
Whatcha mean?
@OSDownfall I'd argue it's more WoW like than BFA and Legion combined outside of theme.
Yah... How dare they expand the game's universe... Right?
@@preds43 im speaking purely from a story and theme standpoint on this guys
@@savvygames5474 Ok, why do you think it might as well be in a new series? The whole point of SL is to expand upon the Warcraft Cosmos by showing us the cosmic realms that exist outside the physical planes of reality.
So when can we expect to see Pilav join OTK? Pilav in the AWC would make me so happy.
Pls donate the 500$ to pilav
Shadowlands is like a fusion buffet, because even though everything tastes like s*** you still kind of get what you want.
True. It’s like Chinese sushi and microwaved burgers
Yeah
Nah McConnell showing up and crying about why Ret paladins aren’t sensitive took me out of it, shit was way too ironic
blizzard does not need to push token sales, the boosting community does it for them.
I feel like McCool got a new headset
*Let me give my professional opinion, **_No_*
how lol
@@kaid6486 because my opinion is professional
@@SubcriberPleas but it’s fun
BC, Wotlk, Mop, Legion/Shadowlands
Most important thing he didnt say... If u want to be a healer at pvp, pick a pact X legendary 0, if u want to be a dps at pvp, pick pact Y and legendary 2, if u wanto to be a dps at pve, pick pact X with legendary 3, but if u want to be a tank, pick pact Z with legendary 4... Of course if u like all those contents, like i do (wish i had a chance to play as tank, dps and heal sometimes), just spent 2 zilions hours of ur life farming legendarys, gold and time to grind some renown, but it's not enough... Why?? cause Every fucking week there's an update that screws up some meta shit and u have to do it all over again, wtf blizzard??...
Why cant they just make classes fun to play instead of wasting time to balance shit as pact and legendary... The thing is, blizzard doesnt want u to have fun... They want u to spent as much time as possible so they can make more money
But dont worry, blizzard... The expansion is great... We love those one shot arenas, so fucking cool, great idea...
double ret in cata was pretty nutty
Shadowlands is good at the begining, but the content drought hit hard already. It feels like a repetitive expansion, the only 4 zones are so mono-thematic, being all day in your coven or in oribos (a really dull city imo)... It gets boring with time.
I feel SL like a BFA fixed version... is working but there is 0 new things.
Still plenty of issues like venthyr driuid conduit hasnt worked at all since shadowlands beta
Well, BfA was like a dumbed down version of legion, take everything that was fun in legion
its like blizzard shut down the pvp and development departments and created a new one which works fulltime on new ideas to fuck off the playerbase
Legend is not yesterday. Legend is when you discuss someone years after his achievement.
You know Pilav used to play on a private server called molten wow, now its called warmane. He paid for full end game and would do pre-made full of ICC hc gear teams. He must have spent about 5 k on gear.
Yeah I pretty much feel that.. Except I enjoyed BFA more (even if 8.3 was the worst patch I've ever experienced). With news about the PTR just reusing the Legendaries appearances I really feel like this is a "fuck it" expansion for Blizzard. I get covid is hampering development but wow; I hate all the leather except for CN. I really hope they turn the expansion around in the next two patches though but I'm afraid it's going to be another 2 years of waiting for a good WoW expansion pack.
I mean if you're playing an RPG to skip story and play some terribly broken pvp, then get mad you can't skip the story, that's your own fault.
@Generic Username what don’t you understand?
Need the translation for whatever Pilav said in Serbian on the phone?
Shadowlands is a middle down the road expansion. It is not as good as TBC, WotLK, MoP and Legion. But it is better than Cata, WoD and BFA.
Idk man, I've heard very mixed opinions on MoP leaning more on the negative side. I think shadowlands might be the better expansion there
@@vigilr6595 MoP for me is the best. When the major problem of the expansion is the panda race, you know its good. PvP godlike, class design one of the best and most fun, pve so good (it has 2 of the best raids), daily content also good, and story i'd say ok at the very least. What more do you want ?
Also i think Cata was way better then people think, probably because it was the first expansion to truly show who was an actual good player and who was the trash and casual, as the raids began to be actual hard with actual mechanics on a regular basis, pvp was one of the best and class design was also fun
Shadow lands is the first xpac I didn't buy. And I've been playing since 2003 beta. I'd rather play on private servers.
Shadowlands is good
@@Ar1AnX1x People switched from the "the game was so much better back in vanilla" to "the game used to be better in bc" you literally cant win LOL
@@Ar1AnX1x I mean...
The Art and Music is cool (Then again, it's always nice), and it's nice to see Blizzard expanding the Warcraft cosmos, but...gameplay wise? Yeah, you right.
Blizzard: people now get rewarded for being good at pvp
Players: haha lets take all the fun out of this and abuse pvp gear by boosting people into a high item lvl for mythic raiding
What are you on about?, its not abusing anything, there's nothing wrong with boosting, pvp gear at the start fo the expansion was too good not to chase for, and some people dont want to sink time into it, so instead of complaining on forums they just pulled out their 10 million gold they got from boosting last tier to buy 2400 instead.
@@eoth1806 shut the fk up butthurt pleb
I love the "just get 2100" that all the streamer say, all of us don't play Ret, War and Balance
or get boosted/get carried
its only hard if you use the lfg tool. if you actually have people to play with its ez pz reguardless of class
Me and my friend played as 200 ilvl balance Druids to 2100 in 3s the other day with just convoke. My other friend hit 2400 the other day before Ele Shaman got buffed as he has never done PvP before. It’s literally not the class except in the case of my balance druids, but mostly the fact that if you know how to play it doesn’t matter what class you are doing it on.
mop was the best for pvp for all classes :)
i used to grind mats for BOE trinkets ...ah the days.
Edit: MCconnel coming into the stream to prove that he isnt being insecure while all the time proving the original point.. sigh.
it's kidna funny how he has no problem shitting on pallys for complaining but EVERY time warrior comes up "woe is me, warriors should be better"
HE IS BACK!!!
crusader3455 vs convoke is LEGENDARY
Shadowlands is just BFA part 2. Don't get me wrong, there's some cool shit to do every now and then, but it's still the same infinite grind that existed within BFA. It's still the same essence system where people get fucked over by rng.
Infinite grind? R...really? I've literally not grinded shit, and I'm pretty far into SL atm.
Absolutely same. Got a 220 ret geared only by PvE, and I never stepped out of the way to do something I didn't want to do just to get ahead.
what infite grind are you talking about, you can easily be 226 by now if you did a weekly +14.
At this time last xpack (bfa) we had a .1 patch. Game is only on .05.
Yikes fam
It's because they rushed the release
Bfa was shit lol
@@Cyanoblades they would still be considerably behind schedule.
@@Amandor2011 this is tru
@@Amandor2011 Shadowlands is even worse tho :D
big true on vanilla wow. all my gear was from pvp and hitting grand marshal on my warrior. then i joined a pve guild got 2.5 and some tier 3. then in tbc same thing. i got all my gear from arena and bg's that was just as good if not better then pve gear. so ya big fucking true
Shadowlands had interesting level design but the problem at the source is that behind all that there is blizzard.
I am new to WoW and still learning a lot... what was the armor at 1:50 called? I really like how it looks.
@@nickpurdy69 thank you!
Pilav is old school... and i lkinda like it.
Tbh, I dread the day DT gets nerfed to oblivion. I loved Venthyr, but unless I like "trolling", I should only pick Kyrian.
Yeah thanks pilav, but i'm not rich. Boes cost alot of money or of timelife, ain't nobody that is normal got time/money for this.
Cost a lot and will become obsolete this summer. Good time investment
That leaves all of OTK out, too bad she was cute?
Tbc
Wotlk
Legion
Cataclysm
SL
Wod
Mop
personal opinion :)
TBC
Legion
Cataclysm
Mop
Bfa
Wotlk
Wod
Too early to rate shadowlands and i haven’t played vanilla, only played classic, if i had to rate classic i ‘d say between wotlk and bfa
Lmao asmon he proved your point by whining about nothing and being uber insecure just after you mentioned ret pallys problems
The hunt crits 42k vs 750 vers mail and shield
For anyone wondering: 13:09 - Annie Says "Roasted PepeHands" in responce to Pilav saying she got carried
Pausing the video already when it started jesus fuck
Nahhhh, everyone shit talks Shadowlands but I vastly enjoy it more than BfA and Legion, I hated Cata.
I don't.. Drop rates suck and the VP system has now made u w8 for hours to get in a M+. Let's not talk bout raid..
@@lucadesanctis563 Bitching and more bitching; too casual to grind your own keys? Or no friends to play with? No patience to wait for an hour in Que until you get a decent group? Do not bullshit with "I can't get any gear to do m+" cause you can literally buy HALF the gear of AH if you are willing to farm gold for like half a month or so doing callings + professions; second, you have Covenant gear and a system that allows you to up gear from 184 to 220 if you commit hard enough can be done in literally a week. Raid is ass, I'll agree on that. Everything else is lucrative in terms of loot and you can easily grind up to 215 ilvl which should in turn allow you to push high keys and do high rated PvP. Your issue is that you are afraid to admit that this game is no longer for you and whatever Blizzard does to satisfy you whiners is never going to be enough. Just do us all a favour and quit the game already. Thank you.
2 years from now everyone will forget SL's faults and it'll become a hidden gem
@@masteroffmuppets666Sitting at max ilvl, got all +15s, progressing through mythic still, theres nothing worthwhile to do until 9.1 which is what, like 2+ months away? Oh wait, I still have my daily calling and maw quests, nvm then
@@emllik2155 Go play something else until the new patch hits. What? You think someone gives a shit you have nothing left to do in a game once you're done with meta achievements? No. There has to be a content draught at some point. Did you complete the Skyrim storyline and then bitched about how there's no more content there as well?
20:30, Saavix was also saying that Word of Glory was too underpowered in the beta, and it didn't heal nearly enough, now it can bring someone from 5% to 100%
Saavis also said that Shield of Vengeance was too underpowered and that atleast people were scared of hitting thorns. Now it absorbs an insane amount, and can crit for 25-30k if you decide to burst through it.
Saavix got most of what he was whining about, because Blizz listened that ret palas had problems, just not the mobility. Problem is, they weren't supposed to be invincible gods if they can also burst people from 100 to 0, so with all those things that Saavix requested (and actually got), they should have nerfed the dmg to fit these buffs.
McCucks arguments are completely invalid, because he decides to ONLY mention that they wanted more mobility, which isn't an argument at all, and isn't what paladins are supposed to be about.
Shadowlands so far is in the worst 3 expansions for me. As it is right now I'd say its the 2nd worst expansion behind BFA maybe it will redeem itself later but it will probably stay in the worst expansions. I couldnt even stomach a month and a half of Shadowlands it was so god damn boring.
1. Wrath
2. Burning Crusade
3. legion
4.shadowlands
5.WoD
Thats just me.
I PLAY RET but i dont like it and yes it is pretty frickin good. i like my warlock more, but I do feel when something is unbalanced, and I chose pala because i wanted to try something else, but I dont actually play ret, i play holy and wank around in bgs. I felt it was insane compared to warlock, i did.
Just wondering why you react to all of pilavs vids? I know it's in good fun and I'm not ensenuating anything
Blizzard has good ideas about as often as blind squirrels find nuts. Currently came back to TBC classic. Wasn't sure if i wanted to try retail out or not and thank you Asmon for letting me know that not playing shadowlands ever is the proper decision. Thank you
TBC --> Legion --> Wrath --> MoP --> Shadowlands --> WoD --> BFA --> Catalysm.
MoP Ret... Please no, I rather take TBC Ret over that.
Dude...somebody in his chat literally fucking asked what is a BOE....see...new players can pop up from anywhere at any time
IM NOT INSECURE OR DEFENSIVE IM NOT INSECURE OR DEFENSIVE. LET ME TALK.
I'm just so glad the bald man is back
I only take stygia from the great vault too
Asmon - Ret Paladin players are the most insecure player base in the game
McConnell - So i see u’ve chosen death💀
If this expansion is so good, why are people talking so much about other MMORPGs, polls show a dwindling population and everyone complain about anima. Honeymoons ended, now comes divorce.
glad you are back
26:43
TBC will always be my first, but Shadowlands comes damn close with Wrath
pvp might be peak form
Yeah, People seem to forget Legion also had its problems at the start and got better as the expansion went on, Shadowlands is certainly already better (!!in goddamn 9.0!!) than the entirety of BfA or WoD and even has a good chance to surpass Legion and become 3rd place best Expansion after TBC and Wrath IMO.
My ranking atm: TBC>Wrath>Legion>SL>MoP>Cata>BfA>WoD
(maybe I have a personal irrational hatred against Cata for "killing the good old WoW" and it probably could rank higher though)
@@Tralvan bullshit
@@FimbongBass
What? That SL has more potential than Legion?
Because grinding AP to unlock abilities that should be class-baseline, or getting shit RNG with your legendary drops that could potentially bench you in your raidgroup for weeks was so much fun in early Legion.
Sure, non of those problems existed in 7.2 or 7.3, but at the start of the expansion Legion had several major issues that shouldn't be ignored.
While I can't make a judgement about the entire expansion right now, personally I'd say 9.0 is a better patch than 7.0.
@@FimbongBass How's it bullshit? Everyone was shit talking Legion when it came out.
It has been the better exp since TBC
Dudes got no chill and I love it lol
lol damn last night, my teammate and I got one-shot from full health at the same time by a boomkin. I think there are a lot of broken classes out there.
Not the best expansion but it is good, I'd say. Granted after BFA you could only go up.
this pile of dogshit smells less bad then the other
@@FimbongBass but it's still shit.. And when I timed keys in BFA items dropped (except for Getikku, but due to the rarity of that weapon I could agree with its low drop rate). Here u run kkeys billions of times for. Nothing?
@@lucadesanctis563 Idk saying the entire game is shit cause u dont get as much gear is kinda cringe
@@lucadesanctis563 I got like 2 upgrades last week from 1 M+ dungeon. :/ So...
"Ret paladins are not defensive" Mcconnel says as he goes on a 5 minute rant about how ret Paladins are not defensive.
Mcconnel was defending Ret 2 months ago crying it was perfectly balanced. He only changed his tune when it became so absurd that he would look stupid defending his position.
This is how all ret paladins behave, it's one of their passive abilities.
Like terran players in sc2.
No matter the state of the game: buff terran.
This comment is why Ret Paladins dislike the majority that have an aggressive vendetta against them for no apparently reason. Blizzard made Ret the way it is, not the players. Alpha/Beta forums prove it. “We want X” but they make em more bursty? Lol.
Activision Blizzard stock has more to do with the future of Apex Legends.
Pallies need CD nerfs with strong overall buffs, 10 percent perma crit for ex as they have zero without wings
Shadowlands was good true.
Made me leave wow and never come back.
Now i see what i missed all these years spent playing wow😭.
"ughh (spits). what a day"
I like shadowlands there is..... alot to do.
yeah that is why i quit 6 months ago.
too much to do.
everyday was like this:
come home do dailies, farm Torghast 2 hours later. ask friend if he wants to play some arena.
nah im gonna go get some dinner, but cu tommorrow.
day after repeat the dailies. ask again and nope, no more time.
alot of ...stuff to do.
In terms of PVP - Wotlk, Cata. In terms of nostalgia TBC and Wotlk. Overall best.. Wotlk.
Balance and ret are both broken.
wheres the video where asmon was talking about pshero sap combo?
BC > wrath > vanilla > classic > legion > MoP > cata > shadowlands = BFA = WoD
shadowlands is just as trash a BFA but i dont know if its really worse that WoD.
Definitely better than bfa at least but that's not a very big achievement
People take about WOD and BFA being bad but shadowlands is on so many levels the worst and probably crippled the game worse then it ever has. Hope everyone at blizzard loses their job
Pshero is a beast, nice compliment
I HATE Shadowlands - Unsubbed. 1. Wrath, 2. BC, 3. Legion, 4. MoP/BfA, 6. Cataclysm, 7. WoD, 8. SL