Mormon Church Bought Her Silence While Protecting Her @bu$er - Chelsea Goodrich | Ep. 1846

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  • @mindeloman
    @mindeloman Рік тому +292

    Damn......as a father of daughters, i just don't get it. I can remember first holding our first born and feeling the immense feeling of being her protector and that has never left me. I couldn't live with myself if i consciously and intentionally caused any of my children harm. What is so broken inside the mind of someone that would do such awful things?!?!? You are so brave Chelsea. Thank you for telling your story.

    • @jrtodd-br4zc
      @jrtodd-br4zc Рік тому +23

      Honestly mindeloman, this is an excellent yet terrifying point at the same time, I am also a father of daughters and it is terrifying how this father could live with himself and not immediately commit suicide after even 1 time of abuse at this level. The fact a person like that is living right now and not ending his own life by any means necessary is legitimately nightmarish. It requires a lack of soul impossible to fathom.
      On a related note, there isn’t a way to kill a human that could satisfy justice for this. It just doesn’t exist. Humans aren’t capable of enough physical pain/torture to pay for something like this. For believers in the Atonement of Jesus Christ, this is sobering.
      I choose to believe Jesus Christ has joy unspeakable that is equally incomprehensible in store for Chelsea as part of His “wiping away every tear” for her. I don’t see how I could sleep at night without believing that.

    • @maddexq9107
      @maddexq9107 Рік тому

      @@jrtodd-br4zc You dad’s commenting on “how could” another dad do such a thing to his child “I just don’t understand.” You don’t understand because you are not a pedophile. Other pedophiles will understand. Here’s a better question to ask and to act upon “how can I be the change in this world that privileges pedophiles/predators over victims?”
      to @jrtodd-br4zc
      Believing in a supernatural being that will make all things right someday - good for you if that helps. You could also do something tangible here and now, perhaps, to make things right for victims. I think that Christian theology allows for this as well.
      Of course, John Goodrich should be in jail and absolutely prevented from contact with any child ever. Pedophiles who recognize their problem should be helped and also kept away from children. Pedophiles who offend/break the law should be held accountable and experience justice by the law and then prevented from ever having access to children if their sentence is not a life sentence and they are released.
      Those of us witnessing Chelsea’s story may consider doing more than hoping in the atonement or wondering how anyone could harm a child like that. Consider believing victims, standing with victims by using our influence as constituents to get laws that protect abusers changed as Chelsea eloquently advocates.

    • @BG-ig6fd
      @BG-ig6fd Рік тому +31

      Some parents don’t have parental instinct. It is the same with wildlife. And some narcissists, sociopaths and psychopaths are also parents.

    • @maddexq9107
      @maddexq9107 Рік тому

      @@BG-ig6fd
      Very true “some . . . Don’t have parental instinct[s].” I’d also add that some have different brains than average which makes them lack parental instincts. Wonder if we’ll ever have a test that can be administered which will tell people “oh hey, you should probably not reproduce b/c you don’t have the right make up to parent a human.” Probably not. Likely there’s some argument regarding the ethics of this, but for sure there are some people who should never have children IMO.

    • @leahflower9924
      @leahflower9924 Рік тому +23

      I think that's part of why abuse is such a mind F because your parent can be your protector and your abuser at the same time and who's going to protect you from your parent or guardian

  • @personofinterest8731
    @personofinterest8731 Рік тому +568

    My sister and I were only able to speak of our abuse when we were in our late 60's early 70's. I am now 77 and she is 73. We never told anyone, wish we had. I so admire you Chelsea, thank you for laying it all out for us. Children have been tyrannised for so long by their expected silence over lifetimes. How tragic. One of my favourite singers, Sinead O'Connor was vilified for her stance against this giant crime against children, and I put Chelsea up there with Sinead for her part in speaking up as she is doing in this interview. Thank you Margi and John for making this possible. Love from two old survivors ❤

    • @marfiskey3102
      @marfiskey3102 Рік тому +11

      💜

    • @chihchiahuang8393
      @chihchiahuang8393 Рік тому +31

      So sorry that you and your sister have to go through that 🙁. Wished the time and culture could’ve been a better place to support you both….

    • @LorraineBitter-zh4rg
      @LorraineBitter-zh4rg Рік тому

      Ipm​@@chihchiahuang8393

    • @TheShodan92
      @TheShodan92 11 місяців тому +16

      I'm so sorry to hear that you have both had to suffer for so long. I hope and pray you both may find peace and happiness in your lives always.

    • @personofinterest8731
      @personofinterest8731 11 місяців тому +20

      @@TheShodan92 Thank you. We have and we do now. Both in an old age home now. Best wishes to all of you for a safe and peaceful new year. We're just walking each other home. 🤗

  • @irishmclass2042
    @irishmclass2042 Рік тому +308

    To John and Margie - This was, by far, the most epic and heart wrenching episode of all times by Mormon Stories Podcast. Chelsea heroically ripped the many bandaids off of not only her personal horrendous abuse but fully shed light on to what extent the Mormon church will go to control and cover up the narrative at the sake of its Members’ lives. People that behave, abuse, offend and permanently cause far-reaching psychological and spiritual damage to their own children should not be allowed to walk the face of this earth! Chelsea’s father should have been put behind bars long ago. Thank you for this epic episode! Blessings to you and your family this holiday! ❤🎄

    • @marfiskey3102
      @marfiskey3102 Рік тому +7

      💜

    • @Mickey-jn8hz
      @Mickey-jn8hz 11 місяців тому +7

      If the mother took her daughter to a « specialist », she knew something was going on. They just chose to keep a blind eye…..

    • @a.walters123
      @a.walters123 8 місяців тому +3

      This is actually on the same level as Adam Steed’s story, which unfortunately Mormon Stories had to remove due to ongoing legal action. He was abused by a man multiple times while a young boy in the church. You can see on his face physically what experiencing evil like that does to you as a young boy. He looks like he’s had borne the burden of several lifetimes. 💔

  • @SavanaWomack
    @SavanaWomack Рік тому +402

    My mom used to work for John Goodrich. I remember how uncomfortable he made me as a little girl. Looking back now, I can see how the ways he treated my mom were inappropriate. Luckily, my dad caught on to it and was an advocate for her. I am so proud of Chelsea. It takes enormous strength to share her truth and bring awareness to CSA and CSA within the church. Thank you Chelsea.

    • @carbine090909
      @carbine090909 11 місяців тому +15

      damn. dodged a bullet. thanks Dad!

    • @lindapearson8137
      @lindapearson8137 9 місяців тому +9

      It is interesting how God makes us aware of men who do these terrible things! I live in a small town and friend and I. One days in talking we discovered both of us felt the same way about someone in another town! I am so glad she has come out and revealed her truth! God bless you and may He continue to bring healing to you, because it totally changes your life! Because of this podcast I am praying that Mormons truly come to know Christ! Mormons don’t seem to see how it is okay to be think it is okay to be involved in the devils work shop, with Harry Potter, Halloween, Dungeons and dragons etc! My nephew had a friend who was, and my sister-in-law who is strong in the Lord, saw such a change in her son when he visited his friend and wouldn’t allow their son to go to his house!

    • @deefalador857
      @deefalador857 8 місяців тому +13

      The pain in her face. Sending her much support and care brave lady❤

    • @malloryharley8491
      @malloryharley8491 8 місяців тому

      @@lindapearson8137you can’t be serious 🤦‍♀️ stop blaming things that are fear based and just blame the shitty people. As someone who was raised Mormon, the non corrupt members really do believe in Christ. Witchcraft isn’t evil, evil witchcraft is evil. Dungeons and dragons 😂😂😂😂 I can’t stop laughing at that. Also if you’re going so say Halloween in general (because of what it’s based off and not the society Halloween) then you might want to stop Christmas and Easter and all that as well and get educated. They all stem from pagan beliefs.

    • @jackiemyers2773
      @jackiemyers2773 8 місяців тому +16

      ​@@lindapearson8137if God made people aware there wouldn't be so many victims. Just stop.

  • @RyanHawley76
    @RyanHawley76 Рік тому +133

    I don't have words...I'm just so,so sorry and yet grateful that you are sharing your story to help others. This is strength and courage!

    • @chelseagoodrich6383
      @chelseagoodrich6383 Рік тому +10

      Thank you so much ❤

    • @RyanHawley76
      @RyanHawley76 Рік тому +3

      ​​@@chelseagoodrich6383No, THANK YOU! I'm overwhelmed with emotion from your story, I only strive to help boost your voice and truth. 💔❤️‍🩹♥️

    • @Megan-1234
      @Megan-1234 8 місяців тому

      💯❤

  • @EvolvePeaceLove
    @EvolvePeaceLove Рік тому +262

    Cannot believe he is not in jail for decades.

    • @wpatrickw2012
      @wpatrickw2012 11 місяців тому +16

      I can believe it, he is rich.

    • @notengopedoconvos
      @notengopedoconvos 11 місяців тому +4

      ❤ brave woman and she is helping change the systemic corruption in the church

    • @pauljacob2449
      @pauljacob2449 11 місяців тому

      its always MONEY, politics or religion. and the " never speak bad about leaders ., RELGION OR POLITICAL> mentality control.
      @@wpatrickw2012

    • @hanako4475
      @hanako4475 10 місяців тому +9

      The business of the US justice system favors the money. It's disgusting. 😔

    • @a.walters123
      @a.walters123 8 місяців тому +3

      Instances like this are what make me hopeful that hell does exist.

  • @kristivaldez5815
    @kristivaldez5815 Рік тому +216

    It's important for CSA victims to tell exactly what happened to them because society, churches and especially abusers minimize every act. Molestation is a crime.

  • @rebeccacastor9958
    @rebeccacastor9958 Рік тому +134

    I've known your family for along time, growing up in mtn home attending church, I didn't know it then, but I always had a sickening feeling when around John, at church and even in his dentist office. I didn't know why I felt like that until I heard about all of this years ago.. then it made sense as to why I felt that way. I am proud of you and the courage you have to keep living your life the the fullest you can. Keep your head up and pushing ypur story. It needs to be heard by soooooo many, especially members of the church of "higher" status. What they have done to you and your mom is disgusting and unacceptable.

    • @karenmaguire4250
      @karenmaguire4250 Рік тому +12

      If you are of the community, you are either part of the problem or part of the solution. Standing on the sideline is a side, but maybe not the side you think it is.

    • @anonymousone9699
      @anonymousone9699 11 місяців тому +12

      You have so much access as a member or former member with connections to the church, TALK. Don’t stop telling everyone what you’ve learned today. Even if they don’t want to hear. Stand up with Chelsea and talk. Tell on John, tell on the church clergy, drop names. Don’t let any new member or mother claim ignorance if this befalls their previous children. TALK! Make it the best spread gossip. It will save so many. Even when people don’t want to believe, they sure won’t be visiting that dental practice and leaving the kids alone even for a phone call.
      Mothers, fathers, neighbours, patients, everyone at risk will quietly protect the kids even on a gossip suspicion.

    • @spocksdaughter9641
      @spocksdaughter9641 10 місяців тому +5

      Wow I am writing from the UK. I will take the liberty of telling the comment readers that I am from Boise Valley. That Denist seems possibly still a dentist in Mt Home Idaho a short distance west of Boise Idaho. Sad for him and worse for those who not make this their own responsibility.
      I hope he is long gone and not still hidding in sainthood.

  • @carmencarlson7913
    @carmencarlson7913 Рік тому +75

    Sexual abuse is worse than murder for the child. It lasts for the life time. Beside the PTSD, the anxiety we experienced, the judgement from others every time we told the experience. I got molested by my uncle in the 90's, and told 4 different LDS leaders, no one did anything. Until this day, I wondered why no one did anything. Is it because they didn't believe me?
    Thanks for sharing Chelsea, my heart aches for you.

    • @glee_again2594
      @glee_again2594 11 місяців тому +7

      The constant physical, mental, emotional roller coasters you were constantly when you’re still trying to understand life. It’s unbearable. I’m so sorry it happened to you. You did not deserve that.
      It makes me want to weep for you that no one believed you or didn’t support you enough to do anything.
      I hope you have gotten support for what happened to you.

    • @MaryM-w1k
      @MaryM-w1k 7 місяців тому +1

      My heart aches for you too.❤

  • @froggie9871
    @froggie9871 Рік тому +195

    What the hell kind of “justice” systems and “religions” do we have in this country that protect abusers and wealth over the vulnerable and victims? It’s so repulsive. I agree that sexual abuse is a murder of a soul.
    Chelsea, you are a light. I pray for your healing and I use the word prayer completely devoid of any religious definition. It’s just a pure wish from my heart, from one survivor to another. ❤

    • @margybernard
      @margybernard 11 місяців тому +6

      There should be consequences for this man’s acts. He cannot carry on business as usual after all he had done. Abusing children is never ok.

    • @tiiatuuli339
      @tiiatuuli339 11 місяців тому

      Not only mormons, JWs have the same 💩. Only in Australia over 1000 and not even single went to police, cos they have rule these things should fix inside org. They have own 3 elder justice and they do not say to victim go to police. This was one the biggest reason I left from my religion, I cant be member of org that dont protect victims. They have secret pedo lists and they rather pay than give them to polices. I feel sick that I was part of that religion.

    • @stuntdoll
      @stuntdoll 11 місяців тому

      The same rich pedos who make legal decisions.

    • @anonymousone9699
      @anonymousone9699 11 місяців тому +1

      I agree with both of you. From my heart, I hope for healing and enlightenment for Chelsea and her mom. On the “justice” system though, this won’t go anywhere. I have no hope left for Justice in the US. I don’t even think public shaming will be enough to change anything. The church members bankroll these vile lawyers and businessmen, they’ll never turn them to the police. If it was a poor member or a housewife, then Justice would be swift because they have nothing to lose.
      And they know that church members are brainwashed and the cognitive dissonance is astounding so publicly recording this will not change anything for them either. The only change is for those that have fallen victim to their evil. For them to know that they are not alone and that there is those of us that care for their healing.

    • @calliey59
      @calliey59 11 місяців тому +1

      The sad thing is that as we advocate for women's rights children's rights are almost non existence.

  • @donnellallan
    @donnellallan Рік тому +118

    These are such critical issues needing attention and Chelsea is such the credible and articulate person to address them. Thank you all for taking as much time as needed for the truths to be told. This was a landmark episode for sure. 💜

  • @pamelamack8278
    @pamelamack8278 Рік тому +68

    Im a sex abuse surviver and an exmorman who was a born in the church and my family is one of the ansister to the Atkin house and I understand that this Religion does protect the abuser because I lived through it with my ward and Bishop.

    • @kristivaldez5815
      @kristivaldez5815 Рік тому +8

      You are not alone. I'm sorry that happened to you.

    • @laurenmay2098
      @laurenmay2098 Рік тому +3

      I believe that all religions do cover the perpetrators and the lives of the kids and wives many times disregarded. We must to forgive and move on. The last case I heard in my country was a 10 year old. The mother wake up in the middle of the night and witnessed her monster husband ready to do it. She said she wasn’t going to report him, because men in my country killed families like crazy. No regards for life, but she fled the house the same night, when to the police, and he was arrested. In my country he won’t be in prison for long, unfortunately.

  • @BeachKid74-ct2ob
    @BeachKid74-ct2ob Рік тому +92

    Chelsea, it’s been said before on this thread, but there are. No. Words. I am so sorry that the MULTIPLE systems failed you and your family so UTTERLY. You are such a testament for the silent victims out there, and I am positive that your sharing is going to help others come forward. You must be such a gift for your patients, with your unfortunate ability to relate and help make them feel that they can work through this and be able to help others themselves. 💚

  • @retiredrn4356
    @retiredrn4356 Рік тому +182

    This has to be one of the most disgusting and disturbing cases I have ever heard. I feel so sick for these women. The people responsible for these travesties need to be held accountable. Both in the church and in the legal communities.

    • @lisajeter9511
      @lisajeter9511 8 місяців тому +4

      I would have never expected something so sinister in Idaho. I think of the MidWest in a complete different manner. But now I realize Lady Justice only speaks for the lined pockets of the few. Which explains so much about the Vallow case to me!!SMDH

    • @honeedip86
      @honeedip86 6 місяців тому

      @@lisajeter9511 ????? Evil has NOOOOOOOO bounds or state limits, wake the hell up!!! Criminal justice system is trash and there is NOOOO such thing as Lady Justice , try the pockets of millions as USA is the most incarcerated country in the world especially for people of color!

  • @immortalasirpa6006
    @immortalasirpa6006 Рік тому +68

    Chelsea, your courage is an inspiration to all of us listening. Thank you for sharing your story. It makes such a difference for survivors who have undergone similar tragedies.

  • @jkern9416
    @jkern9416 Рік тому +90

    I admire her courage to tell this horrible act of abuse against her. So sad😢

  • @shelby477
    @shelby477 Рік тому +54

    One reason I watch Mormon Stories so much is that these stories help heal me. Even though I was brought up Catholic and definitely got some bad ideas put in my head, it's nothing to do with religion.
    .It's everything to do with experiencing isolation, gaslighting, public shaming, and then towards the end, the smear campaign.
    Narcissistic abuse happens from both supposedly loving organizations, and individuals. It just all feels so familiar to me, even though in my case, it was my mother and then a husband.
    Chelsea is amazing for sharing so openly about what must be the worst betrayal of a child possible.
    Thank you. ❤❤❤

    • @Herewearenowentertainus
      @Herewearenowentertainus Рік тому +4

      I was raised Catholic as well, but these atrocities manage to transcend across the board. Chelsea’s story breaks my heart in so many ways, but it’s so important to be heard. ❤❤❤

    • @shelby477
      @shelby477 Рік тому +3

      @@Herewearenowentertainus i completely agree. I only said it that way so that it wasn't assumed the church messed me up badly. My family practiced a pretty mild version. And even though i can honestly say, I had no belief in it ever, (i just went along to get along for years though) it still did install automatic guilt, being too nice, forgiving ongoing behavior time as time again, that stuff did still contribute to putting up with a toxic man for far too long. So even religion on its nicest levels still causes harm.

  • @phoenixrising5338
    @phoenixrising5338 Рік тому +104

    Why does no one ever seem to notice that confession and repentance still work when you are in jail and children are safe from you?

    • @rosehannah4845
      @rosehannah4845 10 місяців тому +7

      Because there's no money to be made in prison $$$$.

    • @hayleypbop6997
      @hayleypbop6997 8 місяців тому +3

      This is such a good point

    • @rayschromm538
      @rayschromm538 5 місяців тому

      It's all about the Benjamin's, my friend...

    • @Earleyyourmean
      @Earleyyourmean 5 місяців тому +1

      This is an excellent point.

  • @CheyennePena
    @CheyennePena Рік тому +108

    I am 56 years old. Remembered when I was 35 my sexual assault when I was a child. To this day I am still triggered by my brother who was the perpetrator.

  • @andymiraculous
    @andymiraculous Рік тому +43

    The prosecutor who dropped the case, after SO many people knew there was enough evidence to convict her father, should lose EVERYTHING. She should never work again.

  • @KarlyndaPierce
    @KarlyndaPierce Рік тому +65

    I’m a baptist pastors daughter and I was severely sexually abused and I was recruited into a sex trafficking at 14 years old. This doesn’t just go on in the lds church and I was in the church for a few years. It’s devastating how we are handled in churches.

    • @maygrantz4426
      @maygrantz4426 11 місяців тому +4

      hi, Karlyn I came acroos your comment and you
      share of what you went through. We live in the
      imperfect world and we are not a hundred percent safe.
      It is sad the churches are not really helping the victim
      and the worst is being blame and ignored. I stop going to
      church and I pray inside my house and I still believe God has a plan
      for us not to hurt us but give us hope.I want you to know Karlyn you are not
      alone and we got this...

    • @livea3596
      @livea3596 11 місяців тому +1

      @karlyndaPierce ❤ 😢

    • @jeniferbaxter8547
      @jeniferbaxter8547 10 місяців тому +3

      speaking out on Sex Abuse Podcast is a great resource- predators love churches who profess to rehabilitate abusers

    • @markrichards2259
      @markrichards2259 8 місяців тому

      😊

  • @Alyse_bell
    @Alyse_bell Рік тому +77

    You are so brave Chelsea, I am so sorry that the church you grew up in that should have protected you, chose to protect its assets and reputation over its members. It’s so disgusting that he got away with no punishment for abusing you. Even more disgusting that the church knows what he did and still didn’t think they needed to protect children from him. The prosecutor decided that her church was worth more protection than children which is reprehensible.

  • @kaydencelayne4507
    @kaydencelayne4507 Рік тому +158

    Chelsea, I'm just letting you know I'm thinking of you and sending love. Your bravery is powerful. I'm so sorry for your suffering. To have been abused by someone you loved and trusted... and then abused again by the church you loved and trusted... It's so much pain to endure. Thank you for sharing your story, and shining sunlight on the shadows.

  • @melhew4102
    @melhew4102 Рік тому +153

    Cant she sue the state for prosecutorial misconduct?? The church should NOT have the power to do any of this!

    • @barbarasmith2130
      @barbarasmith2130 Рік тому +42

      As a lawyer, i have had serious questions about the Church’s methods of investigation, treatment of witnesses, and “disciplinary” methods.

    • @maddexq9107
      @maddexq9107 Рік тому +9

      @@barbarasmith2130
      the question above is “can she (Chelsea) sue the state for prosecutorial misconduct?”
      As a lawyer, what is your response to that question?

    • @Famr4evr
      @Famr4evr Рік тому +10

      @@maddexq9107I haven’t finished the video of her and her mom talking about this. I be got as far as the lawyer saying to move away. If the state didn’t make him serve time, then I think they should sue the state.

    • @barbarasmith2130
      @barbarasmith2130 Рік тому +10

      @@maddexq9107you’d have to know the law there. There has to be some law to use. Civil or criminal, there must be a cause of action (civil) or an offence (criminal)

    • @stream47
      @stream47 Рік тому +13

      Probably not, prosecutors have absolute discretion in the cases they bring - or choose not to. Prosecutorial misconduct usually arises in the process of a trial and can serve as grounds for mistrial, reversal and vacation of sentence or conviction or both. I don't know if Idaho has a law which allows for private prosecution. All of this is on the criminal side, she could sue on a tort theory of assault and battery, and the actions of the church might fall under defamation as well. She'd have to consult an Idaho lawyer on this, preferably an ex-Mormon lawyer. The Fifth Amendment would not apply in civil discovery, although that evidence probably couldn't come in in a criminal case.

  • @leahsmith8363
    @leahsmith8363 Рік тому +41

    Nobody should ever go through a moment of the horrors you went through. The fact that you’re still standing is a testament for your strength, which should’ve never had to exist in the first place. You are so brave to share your story.

  • @loriwait3166
    @loriwait3166 Рік тому +43

    My heart hurts for her. Although my abuse wasn't from my father - the stake clerk was my abuser. I was eight. I was was made to feel like the abuse was my fault. It was known there were at least three additional victims. Nothing ever happened to him. He remained the stake clerk. It still haunts me decades later.

    • @maygrantz4426
      @maygrantz4426 11 місяців тому +7

      Hi, Lori and I came across your comments,
      anyway, I want you to know it was not your
      fault and it is sad that you had went through
      the abuse and the abuser was not being punish
      or atleast to be descipline .This abuse is not only
      happening in the church but also happening in clinics
      and hospital.Lori , nobody can get away in God's judgement.
      Thank you, for sharing your experience.

  • @tamiknudson1349
    @tamiknudson1349 Рік тому +43

    I would hope a federal prosecutor might want to look into this. That, and a class action lawsuit forming against the church if enough victims join their voices. Chelsea had nobody looking out for her in any aspect of this case. She was victimized not only by her dad but by every other authority in this scenario. Thank you to Mormon stories for giving Chelsea a platform to share and be so vulnerable.

    • @Mimi73161
      @Mimi73161 11 місяців тому +8

      and this man is a dentist with access to potential victims and dangerous drugs that he has a felony charge!! wth is wrong with this damn country!!!!! Chelsea you are so brave and courageous!!! Ty for sharing your story!!!

  • @orisonorchards4251
    @orisonorchards4251 Рік тому +33

    You are so brave, Chelsea! What you are doing right now will help bring about changes for younger generations.

  • @davidl2438
    @davidl2438 Рік тому +24

    Wow! What an outstanding interview. I hope this young lady heals. I am also a victim of abuse and I found this discussion helpful.

  • @alohagrace2225
    @alohagrace2225 Рік тому +40

    Heartbreaking and Horrifying.💔You are so courageous. I pray you find peace in time. Shame on The All Elders in the LDS Church who were silent and conspiring in the silence and covering up such wickedness.

  • @legoperson902
    @legoperson902 Рік тому +33

    This was a painful listen. I really hope she finds peace and happiness and that justice is served.

  • @hannalizzy110
    @hannalizzy110 Рік тому +17

    Chelsea, your story has left a permanent impression on my heart. I’m so sorry for the ugliness and darkness you were forced to live through, the darkness I’m sure still lingers today (as a CSA survivor myself, I sadly can imagine). Thank you for sharing, from the bottom of my heart. ❤ the mormon church and the judicial system failed you, but your courage and bravery will not be in vain.

  • @Beutimus
    @Beutimus Рік тому +33

    I'm speechless at the level of abuse Chelsea went through. I'm so sorry. That feels so empty to say that.

  • @hannahschell6622
    @hannahschell6622 Рік тому +43

    Margie is just so empathetic. I love her♥️

  • @candicew2842
    @candicew2842 Рік тому +34

    Sue John in a civil court. You will win.

    • @chelseagoodrich6383
      @chelseagoodrich6383 Рік тому +39

      You are right, and in fact I did sue him and I did win. Thank you so much for your support ❤

    • @rosehannah4845
      @rosehannah4845 10 місяців тому

      Good for you. God Bless. I'm so sorry the injustice you experienced. I know how it feels. I have experienced Medical Injustice and have never gotten help or compensation. It's not the same but I know how it feels. I'm so sorry for your SA. I have a few questions about my childhood myself but it's unclear. Thank you for risking everything to help the children. @@chelseagoodrich6383

  • @bodytrainer1crane730
    @bodytrainer1crane730 Рік тому +21

    Chelsea, thank you so much for telling your story.

  • @Mrs_Solis
    @Mrs_Solis Рік тому +15

    I’m so sorry, Chelsea. Your story is truly heartbreaking. Thank for being so brave and sharing this to protect the innocent.

  • @cindyjohnson5956
    @cindyjohnson5956 Рік тому +93

    Two things that struck me today as I absorbed Melissa’s story, while paying attention to her speech, as well as body language. She is articulate and well versed, carefully choosing her words to ensure the accuracy of her statements. Confidently poised, calmly she makes a most credible witness.
    As she recounted the horrible facts of each stage of her life, she consistently stated how grateful she was for different individuals. She recalled the kindness of some, the good fortune of having this person offer to assist, I could go on, but my point is she was gracious towards others, while refraining from name calling or saying vile things about her story and the way in which so many individuals and organizations let her down. This is a woman of great fortitude, so classy, and I have a deep love and respect for her. She deserves so much better than what life has dealt her thus far. I only wish peace for her, some form of closure, and another beautiful soul such as herself to share a life devoid of ugly things and people.
    She is so deserving of this, and so much more. 🥰

    • @arielg8990
      @arielg8990 Рік тому +12

      Her name is Chelsea. I agree with this too. Very well spoken.

    • @liseklerekoper2441
      @liseklerekoper2441 Рік тому +9

      Her name isn’t Melissa, it’s Chelsea.
      I do agree w/ your comment though.

    • @HealedandThriving
      @HealedandThriving 11 місяців тому +8

      Even if she did name call or get angry… I see it as appropriate. It’s all part of healing.

    • @stephaniesinks
      @stephaniesinks 11 місяців тому +2

      Well said. I wish so much love and healing for her. She is a powerful and intelligent woman. I hope all of the goodness she still manages to put out in the world comes back to her tenfold. One of those better be a gentle, good looking stallion of a man to share this life with. All that and more! ❤️❤️❤️

    • @Stefanonymous
      @Stefanonymous 5 місяців тому +2

      I concur

  • @lovesomeone7285
    @lovesomeone7285 11 місяців тому +58

    I would make her situation into a documentary on Netflix. Her message will be heard far and wide. Shine the light on all the darkness. A beacon of light, a lighthouse out of the storms of darkness. As a survivor of CSA, I support Chelsea ❤

  • @marciasweat7857
    @marciasweat7857 Рік тому +19

    So heart breaking!! I hope you have peace. Such a brave women.

  • @M_elliote34
    @M_elliote34 Рік тому +738

    For everyone who has never been sexually abused by a Mormon parent:guardian…you can’t even begin to understand the devastating long term consequences to your mental health. I’m heart broken for her 😢💔

    • @LizaFergison
      @LizaFergison Рік тому

      @mitchllpryor313 It is shocking. Per capita, I suspect the number of abusers in the LDS church is much higher than the Catholic church. The weak leadership's refusal to tackle the issue will destroy the church. It is haemorrhaging members around the world, but they turn a blind eye. If they refuse to protect children, they are finished.

    • @grammyb5216
      @grammyb5216 Рік тому +26

      🥲🙏

    • @makeupdatewithjacki8959
      @makeupdatewithjacki8959 Рік тому +19

      Amen!

    • @sheraeduncan2980
      @sheraeduncan2980 Рік тому +64

      It is devastating for ANYONE but the added high pressure teachings add to itb in a myriad of ways

    • @joycenotine283
      @joycenotine283 Рік тому +64

      For former and current Catholics this story rings very true. Any patriarchal religion will echo these abuses while claiming their particular way/dogma is the only path to eternal salvation.

  • @swaneespeedramsey6080
    @swaneespeedramsey6080 Рік тому +13

    Thank you Chelsea for sharing your story.

  • @Howulikememeow
    @Howulikememeow Рік тому +14

    Thank you for sharing your story. It is harrowing and awful and I am so sorry you have been denied justice in such a cruel way. You are truly doing the most important work.
    I think there are thousands of us that have experienced abuse within the Mormon church myself included. In one Bishop meeting with me and my siblings, all in middle and high school, we confided to him of my father’s physical abuse of us and my mom. He interviewed my parent’s next and shamed my Japanese mother so hard she couldn’t attend church until we moved to a new ward. My next meeting with my bishop I disclosed my father’s sexual abuse... which made the bishop so uncomfortable and chose that time to ask me if I masturbated. Needless to say the church did nothing and my abuse went on for years.
    You sharing your trauma and showing your strength has validated me and I know it is helping others to heal too. Thank you for your bravery, I know it comes at a price. I hope you can take some time nurture yourself.

  • @Evermar45462
    @Evermar45462 Рік тому +12

    I am incredibly moved by your bravery, Chelsea. I am at a loss for words for all that has happened to you. It’s maddening that your dad has gotten away with this…I have spent all day running my errands but my mind cant seem to get my mind off of your story. Thank you for showing us strength and grace. May God Bless you and your mom!

  • @Suzyslly
    @Suzyslly Рік тому +60

    Chelsea, you are a courageous woman. I am so sorry that you were subjected to this. I wish you peace and happiness.❤️

  • @terriannehigby4095
    @terriannehigby4095 11 місяців тому +21

    Im very impressed with her mother. She didn't hesitate when it came to standing up for her daughter. She gave up a comfortable life style. To protect and stand by her daughter. A lot of these kind of stories, the mother looks the other way.❤

  • @makeupdatewithjacki8959
    @makeupdatewithjacki8959 Рік тому +26

    Chelsea, thank you so much for sharing your story and I'm so sorry for everything you have been through and i am so inspired by your courage and strength! I know this has to be incredibly hard to share and as a survivor of childhood sexual abuse by a family member, also in Idaho and also with the Bishop and other people in our Ward fully aware of allegations of sexual abuse by other kids in our family, I understand how us survivors can be vilified in and by the very place we should have been protected in! I'm sending you so much love and peace and continued strength and I truly am so sorry for all of the pain you've been through. 🤗

  • @lisette6720
    @lisette6720 Рік тому +24

    Nobody should have to experience what you went through. My heart is broken for you. I'm so sorry. Stay strong & fight.

  • @susanwilliams70
    @susanwilliams70 Рік тому +19

    Thank you for being so brave Chelsea. There are many out there that find strength through listening & relating to your life experience. I believe there will always be those in power ( inclusive of churches here!) who will defend the institution(s) and therefore the perpetrators over the victims.

  • @trevavaile
    @trevavaile Рік тому +15

    As a mother of a victim and being a victim too please darling don’t let that man ruin your future. He is not worth it. There’s so much I could tell you but please find your healing and your strength. Heavenly Father loves you and those people that failed you will eventually feel the sting. We don’t need to protect the church. It’s clear some don’t know the nature of the Savior at all.

  • @Captain_Vornskr
    @Captain_Vornskr Рік тому +9

    Thank you Chelsea for your bravery and courage in telling your story. I am so sorry that this happened to you. My heart hurts so such for all of the damage that the Church has inflicted on so many due to their horrific teachings.

  • @jaylarsen67
    @jaylarsen67 Рік тому +46

    Why bleep the prosecutors name? I believe that deserves to be known publicly.

    • @immortalasirpa6006
      @immortalasirpa6006 Рік тому +5

      I agree, but I think it might be a youtube anti-doxxing thing. Lots of shady characters these days hurling abuse at prosecutors, so....

    • @chelseagoodrich6383
      @chelseagoodrich6383 Рік тому +29

      Yes, I’m not sure why those particular names got edited. I believe that was a mistake. If you would like to know who they are, I have named them in other interviews and there will be other things coming out publicly where you will be able to see that. I have documentation backing up all of the statements I have made concerning them.

    • @laurenmay2098
      @laurenmay2098 Рік тому +3

      It is irritating, the prosecutor is a failure as prosecutor and we don’t hear the name, unbelievable. But whoever know the are, knows who she is talking about. I don’t, I live in CT, I hope people put two and two together.

    • @laurenmay2098
      @laurenmay2098 Рік тому +5

      @@chelseagoodrich6383yes, Mormon stories had a video down because of future prosecution. Adam seed video? Is not here anymore, we must to be careful, but it is frustrating.

    • @liseklerekoper2441
      @liseklerekoper2441 Рік тому +6

      @@laurenmay2098- The Adam Seed video is no longer there, why exactly? His story was absolutely horrific on so many levels, but it parallels Chelsea’s on what the church did. Adam Seed was revictimized & retraumatized by the Mormon church in a significant way.

  • @patriciajessop2248
    @patriciajessop2248 Рік тому +15

    I am so VERY PROUD that CHELSEA GOODRICH honestly spoke her truth. You are MY HEROINE❣

  • @sunnya8
    @sunnya8 Рік тому +12

    Wow. This is so hard to hear. About 30 min in and I’m starting to gag d/t my own history of trauma. Thank you Chelsea for sharing your story.

  • @starlingswallow
    @starlingswallow Рік тому +39

    I'm so grateful for this podcast and the others who are bringing this up~ the abuse in Churches. The tide is shifting and many eyes, ears and hearts are listening~ many who are hurting from their own abuses. 😢
    Things ARE changing, and fortunately/unfortunately, people are leaving churches in droves, especially women. Patriarch needs to go away. We are all equal, men and women are different, yes, but equals. Any power dynamics, one person over and more important than the other, is a recipe for disaster.
    God loves _people_ more than He loves institutions!!! ❤

  • @Mama24cruiseaddicts
    @Mama24cruiseaddicts Рік тому +13

    Absolutely abhorrent. If this was handled in any other area he’d be away forever. So sad and so much empathy for this amazingly strong woman.

  • @danieljohncarey7917
    @danieljohncarey7917 Рік тому +38

    As terrible, awful, grotesque, disgusting, and heinous her story is, I have no doubt it is as helpful for other victims to hear. Glad she is strong enough to tell this, and about how it goes on, and how various people deal with it, or deny it, or ignore it. And how ruinous it is for the victims. Also disgusting how the church dealt with it. None of this is surprising. To me. Unfortunately.
    What she says at 3:10:56. I've also said that. Sexually abusing a child: "It's a kind murder of the soul that you have to live with and try to sort through for the rest of your life."

    • @coll4455
      @coll4455 Рік тому +3

      It’s so hard for me not to breakdown crying watching this. I have heard that expression before and believe it’s absolutely accurate. I just can’t understand how anyone would dare to protect someone who does this to children. How can they live with themselves knowing that they were told that a child is being abused and did nothing. It makes me so angry and heartbroken. I just have so many thoughts and feelings about all of this and It makes me so angry towards any religious group that knowingly ignores this happening to any child.

    • @danieljohncarey7917
      @danieljohncarey7917 Рік тому +1

      @@coll4455 And... it is so common among churches, and other organizations dealing with children. Abuse, and deny, and protect the abuser. As the children suffer.

    • @TerryJewell-z5e
      @TerryJewell-z5e 8 місяців тому

      I hope the mother ended that marriage .

  • @jonipitcher7185
    @jonipitcher7185 Рік тому +27

    SO VERY SAD. I hope she can heal. I hope someone stops her dad. I hope the church and the people in it wake up to the lasting effects CSA has. My great grandfather was a predator. My parents kept me safe but there are still things that have effected me a generation away from it. I hope the whole family can heal.

  • @Uneclipsed
    @Uneclipsed 11 місяців тому +3

    You are so incredibly resilient. I could not endure the abuse, the roadblocks, and cover ups you’ve encountered at every turn. At least not without being put in jail. I’m so glad you’re able to speak out about this and I hope everyone who knew about what you and others went through and chose to aid your father’s escape from justice get what’s coming to them. Evil, evil behavior.

  • @BradyReading
    @BradyReading Рік тому +11

    Thank you for sharing your story

  • @valentinat3250
    @valentinat3250 Рік тому +11

    This is a very important interview but very painful to watch. I commend Chelsea’s courage in sharing her story. I hope it brings needed light to these problems in the community. John, your sensitive interviewing skills are on display here. Your clinical training comes through in your approach. Thank you,Margie, for your support and empathy of this lovely, brave guest.

  • @wasatchmagic3252
    @wasatchmagic3252 9 місяців тому +4

    To John and Margie....thank you so much for this podcast. This is important, human-centered, compassionate and honest work.

  • @shannonigans_
    @shannonigans_ Рік тому +18

    Hi fellow CSA survivors whose Dad was like this Dad and got away with it all. There’s more of us than I think people realize. Love you all. No one knows but us how strong we have been forced to be.

    • @jayylad38
      @jayylad38 Рік тому +5

      hugs. our fortitude is infinite and unfortunate.

    • @coll4455
      @coll4455 Рік тому +3

      My heart goes out to you and anyone who want through this. I’m so sorry

  • @janellecanine2590
    @janellecanine2590 11 місяців тому +9

    As a Idaho native, many of us non mormons are not surprised about the mormon influence in the legal system, school system government, and the bias and coverup in all of those systems. I am so sorry for what Chelsea and her family have endured.

  • @sherikinder_survivor30
    @sherikinder_survivor30 Рік тому +10

    I have a very very similar story. I won last Nov and my father was sentenced to 6 years in prison and 4 years probation. He was in the young men's the whole time while I happened. I feel foe anyone who chooses to open up! Especially to help others!

  • @coll4455
    @coll4455 Рік тому +9

    My stomach hurt so bad watching this episode. She is a warrior absolutely a warrior. I can’t even imagine how difficult this is to experience and survive. I want to thank her for sharing her story because I believe not enough people understand the dynamics of this kinda of abuse and how horrible it is. I also can not understand how someone who does this to his children is protected by a church let alone still walking free

  • @dianawilson13
    @dianawilson13 Рік тому +31

    Did her sister not believe her? Why the heck did the aister put her daughter in that situation? There has to be some accountability there.

    • @dadsarepeopletoo3785
      @dadsarepeopletoo3785 8 місяців тому +3

      Cognitive dissonance wld be my guess

    • @claireterry1835
      @claireterry1835 8 місяців тому

      Brainwashed. Like chad daybell’s children. Probably the promise of money, too. It’s amazing how people will look the other way for money.

  • @bonnielee123.
    @bonnielee123. Рік тому +10

    Can't believe that people speaking out in the church to protect children from being abused are often excommunicated way before actual child abusers are. Really shows the church's priorities.

  • @electra424
    @electra424 Рік тому +8

    This makes me so angry. SO angry. The mormon church needs to pay for these atrocities. They have allowed abuse to flourish and they have protected predators. Their behavior is absolutely atrocious and it make me sick that they have let this continue. And we all know this isn't a one off case, there are hundreds if not thousands of stories just like this playing out now and in the past... It must stop. Thank you MSP for platforming this story and continuing to put pressure on the church. Thank you Chelsea for telling your story. Your words are going to do great things and help so many people. We stand behind you and support you and WE BELIEVE YOU.
    I know the names have been bleeped out for legal reasons but I want so badly for the names to be published. These people need to be PUBLICLY SHAMED for what they have done. They are disgusting, pathetic excuses for religious authority figures. I want to know their names. They need to face the consequences.

  • @sharonyoung8251
    @sharonyoung8251 8 місяців тому +7

    As an outsider, it appears that the “church” in those highly Mormon area is highly intertwined with the judicial system.

  • @yselahoffman9509
    @yselahoffman9509 Рік тому +65

    I am very proud of you Chelsea. I am not as strong and still dealing with sexual abuse issues…I am 71 years old

    • @kristivaldez5815
      @kristivaldez5815 Рік тому +16

      You are not alone. It stays with you for life. I'm sorry that happened to you.

    • @peggys121
      @peggys121 Рік тому +3

      I am so very sorry.

    • @janicescott6569
      @janicescott6569 10 місяців тому +1

      I’m sorry for what you have endured all these years. The Almighty will take care of all these injustices.

  • @hikariyamato6595
    @hikariyamato6595 Рік тому +8

    This is up there with Adam’s interview in how raw and heartbreaking this is for the victims and their families. I hope all this will shed light on the darkness that has pervaded the church that is supposed to BE the light. Thank you Chelsea, for being so brave. Thank you John, Margi, and all the crew at MSP for giving the survivors a platform to speak out with their own voice and life experiences.

  • @KodyCrockett
    @KodyCrockett Рік тому +8

    This is so triggering to listen to. My kid (adopted) was sexually abused by her birth father (a Mormon) and in a similar way to this case the prosecutors dropped the charges too despite ample evidence. Our justice system is rotten.

  • @CJ2023Incognito
    @CJ2023Incognito Рік тому +8

    I love how the interviewers are so gentle with her even though you can see she is a very strong beautiful woman.

  • @ZakMakoff
    @ZakMakoff Рік тому +18

    Chelsea is very brave going forward with this...
    What's up with Utah & Idaho's Mormon Attorney G's and all their Conflicts of Interests?

  • @wanderingrenegade771
    @wanderingrenegade771 Рік тому +6

    Ty for sharing, very sorry for what happened to you.

  • @sandianaya5141
    @sandianaya5141 Рік тому +11

    So heartbreaking on all accounts…I pray for her healing.

  • @lindastrawberry
    @lindastrawberry Рік тому +13

    what a brave woman. I want to hug her. She was fighting so hard through her dissociation. I saw the moment she first recalled she looked terrified and then from there she is fighting her dissociation. What a monster he was to do this to her.

  • @lowlifegarage
    @lowlifegarage Рік тому +13

    Is the church allowing low income families to get away with crimes too. Or is it just the high tithers?

  • @lindastrawberry
    @lindastrawberry Рік тому +10

    This man is currently practicing at Middle Creek Dental in Nampa Idaho…… that community needs to be aware of this. It’s unbelievable to me that he’s still allowed near drugs or children. The google reviews reference him from one week ago….

  • @djer05010401
    @djer05010401 Рік тому +5

    Chelsea, if you happen to read these comments, I am sending you love, support, and strength. You are such an inspiration. I am in awe of the level of integrity and grit and poise and backbone you have demonstrated. I wish for you that you will get to experience a sense of justice and, ultimately, peace as a result of going through this tortuous process.

  • @RyanHawley76
    @RyanHawley76 Рік тому +23

    All MS stories are so important....but this one, right now. THIS ONE RIGHT NOW.

  • @queenvalkrie
    @queenvalkrie Рік тому +14

    I hope this doesn’t come off as cold because that’s not my intention. I remember very clearly in the late 80’s maybe early 90’s during the time period when abortion rights and right to life protests were very common and a topic of debate and discussion in schools almost daily. There was an announcement that the bishops read from the GA about abortion and Mormons were pro-life BUT in instances of rape, incest and if the mothers life were in danger the mother was ‘allowed’ to have a conversation with her bishop. That was one of the very few pivotal moments for me. My head and heart were already out. I couldn’t figure out why on this one topic the church seemed to be more empathetic than they seemed capable of being in other areas. This story just shined a bright light. They weren’t being empathetic at all, they were covering their asses.

  • @Ch33syDanish
    @Ch33syDanish Рік тому +6

    Chelsea is an amazing advocate. No one should experience the types of things she did. Her patients are in good hands.

  • @tamimorgan8903
    @tamimorgan8903 Рік тому +5

    Thank you Chelsea for speaking up. I had not clue that the church was like this until over the years that I have heard stories like yours. There are so many!

  • @Howulikememeow
    @Howulikememeow Рік тому +24

    Aside from the mountain of horrors and abuse, which is insurmountable...notice how the dad is loaded yet is yelling at the family for spending money on a bargain double wedding at a free venue with bridal gowns ordered from online Chinese fast fashion retailer. This is such a dysfunctional dynamic in toxic families with one member having all the power/money. The abuser will pit family member against family member and reward allegiance with strategic attention and money. I am not surprised that Chelsea’s siblings chose to align with the father at critical times. This is the game of narcissistic abusers. The kids become pawns in the long con.

  • @davechristensen2482
    @davechristensen2482 9 місяців тому +8

    My wife ( bless her soul) .....
    Was abused by her dad and grandpa. It destroyed her soul....
    and eventually her mortal life.
    She was a beautiful soul, but crippled by child abuse.

  • @critterscute3642
    @critterscute3642 Рік тому +12

    Chelsea, you are a brave and wonderful woman. Continue to heal and help others 🙏❤️

  • @michelecraig9658
    @michelecraig9658 Рік тому +13

    I love Margi's comments in this. The really sad thing about this story is that the victims were victimized again and again. These systems (churches, justice system) tell us that they are there yo protect the innocent. That doesn't seem to be how it works.

    • @BG-ig6fd
      @BG-ig6fd 3 місяці тому

      They are there to protect the privileged and powerful.

  • @ArtfullyMusingLaura
    @ArtfullyMusingLaura Рік тому +14

    Abuse is handled exactly the same way in the Jehovah's Witnesses.

  • @amanda_weber1
    @amanda_weber1 11 місяців тому +9

    I live near Boise and have a child. It angers me that this man is not in prison for decades and free to enter the same spaces as my child and I. I hate the church and our state prosecutors for this.

    • @Topprav43
      @Topprav43 11 місяців тому +1

      Thank you for your comment and your feelings. We as a whole society really need to be careful when it comes to religion. We do not want to wipe religion off the face of the earth. We need to understand the imperfection of Man and learn through our Savior from these heroes how to deal with this atrocity.

    • @livea3596
      @livea3596 11 місяців тому +2

      @amanda_weber Me too!

  • @pennym3036
    @pennym3036 Рік тому +22

    This is horrific! These churches need to be held accountable!
    You're such a brave young lady!❤

  • @terralia644
    @terralia644 Рік тому +13

    The Elmore County assistant prosecutor during this timeline was Jessica Kuehn. It's on her LinkedIn

  • @Ariel-ck9he
    @Ariel-ck9he 7 місяців тому +2

    Wow. This woman is the epitome of class, grace, and poise. After all she’s been through, she still manages to maintain her composure. I’m blown away.

  • @MISSYSORENSON
    @MISSYSORENSON Рік тому +5

    This story breaks my heart. I can’t imagine the pain and betrayal.😭😭
    Thank goodness I came from low class and a Bishop who was amazing. But things are still hard to deal with. I am deeply grateful that you are sharing. May you continue to have the strength to share and find justice and peace. My heart breaks for your dear mother also. Keep strong!

  • @ChristinaCruz-s4l
    @ChristinaCruz-s4l 9 місяців тому +3

    Thank you for being so vulnerable and sharing your story. You are courageous. This will allow others who have been abused to come forward. The cycle of abuse needs to be broken.

  • @rebeccacastor9958
    @rebeccacastor9958 Рік тому +5

    Oh Chelsea, my dear. I am sooo terribly sorry that you have gone through all of this. I dont know if you remember, but John was also my bishop back then. With out going into details on here. Please just know, I personally support you and everything you are doing now to be heard.. Your story needs to be heard.

  • @honder1866
    @honder1866 Рік тому +2

    Amazing episode. Thanks to Chelsea, Margi and John, and everyone else responsible for this amazing episode. This episode crosses into the realm of real journalism on a very important topic. Great job.

  • @lwhowell4387
    @lwhowell4387 Місяць тому +3

    Mt ex-wifes brother molested my two little girls ages 5 and 6 in December 1976. My fatherly instincts were to send him to the hospital in an ambulance. THE CHURCH said they would handle the situation. Their attorney, Michael Leavitt, threatened to destroy me and have me excommunicated if I went to the police. I was a very young father and a recent convert to the mormon church. The brother in laws parent's whose house we were purchasing on contract reneged on the house, kept my money and sold the house out from under us in retaliation.
    In hindsight, knowing things about how the church operates in these types of situations i wish I would have acted on my own instincts. The HELL with Michael Levitt! The HELL with the church!

  • @anandrew6641
    @anandrew6641 Рік тому +10

    Idaho is one party recording law state, so as long as one person is aware, the one recording, you're allowed to record as much as you want.