Therapy & Theology: The Stages of Trauma | Part One With Lysa TerKeurst

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  • Опубліковано 3 чер 2024
  • Is This Going To Hurt Forever? Part One
    Welcome to "Therapy & Theology." When you've experienced something devastating, it's easy to question if you're on your way to healing: Is it normal to feel this way? How do I stop hurting? Is this going to hurt forever? Maybe you've even said out loud to a friend, “I don’t want to be dramatic, but this has been traumatic.”
    Is it really possible to move forward after we’ve experienced significant trauma?
    With theological research and therapeutic insight, Lysa TerKeurst, Dr. Joel Muddamalle and licensed counselor Jim Cress will help you understand the stages of trauma so you can process your pain in a healthy way and move toward healing today.
    Make sure you watch [Part Two] and [Part Three]:
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    Related Resources:
    -We can’t assume the broken pieces of our life circumstances are terrible and pointless - not with our God. Gain healthier ways to process your pain and learn to see even your most hurtful situations through truth-based perspectives with Lysa TerKeurst’s new devotional, Seeing Beautiful Again: 50 Devotions to Find Redemption in Every Part of Your Story. Get your copy here. www.p31bookstore.com/products...
    -Check out our [UA-cam channel] to watch these episodes in shorter installments. • Therapy & Theology: 10...
    -Ready to take the next step in finding a Christian counselor? Here’s a good place to find the right fit for you and your circumstances: American Association of Christian Counselors. aacc.net/
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  • @vanessar9386
    @vanessar9386 2 роки тому +66

    I’m sitting here crying & worshipping bc of the trauma I’m healing from. Then I come across this video. The Lord’s timing 😭❤️

    • @marileechapin1704
      @marileechapin1704 Рік тому +1

      Me too Vanessa, it's time we heal! Hang in there💗

    • @rayyjayy274
      @rayyjayy274 Рік тому +3

      I too have been through 17 years of abuse. It gets better each day

    • @vanessar9386
      @vanessar9386 Рік тому

      Thank you ladies! 💕 praying for both of your healing

  • @allisonb.8492
    @allisonb.8492 Рік тому +20

    Coming out of a 21 year marriage. Got married at age 22. It’s been very toxic as he is an alcoholic and has a lot of anger issues from childhood trauma. I am the opposite. It was a recipe for disaster as I wanted sooo badly to save him. But couldn’t. Love y’all.

    • @jonil.j5389
      @jonil.j5389 8 місяців тому +2

      Hugs sent your way hope you doing better ❤

  • @leonapietsch4367
    @leonapietsch4367 Рік тому +23

    I’m so glad That you all say it’s normal to walk through all of the pain. My so called friends and family all wanted me to get over it all quickly. It was a 42 year marriage. Sure don’t want to go back. But all of the trauma and emotional abuse is hard to forget. As time goes on it does get easier. In all your way’s acknowledge Him and He will make your paths straight!! Proverbs 3:6. God walked by my side all the way!!!❤✝️

    • @lisahull6745
      @lisahull6745 3 місяці тому +2

      Gosh..that’s a loooong time. You don’t just get over it. Bless your heart.

  • @colleenallison5860
    @colleenallison5860 Рік тому +8

    Exactly. We don’t realize how much we need God as our husband and Savior and Provider et al-until we need Him to walk us through our traumatic events. So true.

  • @kimberlywebberslemongrasss5175
    @kimberlywebberslemongrasss5175 Місяць тому +2

    I left my 27 year marriage 8 months ago and the traumatic effects of the abuse I didn’t realize I was enduring the entire marriage didn’t hit me until 6 months after I left. I’ve been struggling the effects now for the past 3 months and it’s nothing I would wish on anyone. It’s agonizing at times I don’t know how much more I can take. I know God had a perfect plan and am trying to trust Him to work it out.

  • @ct8409
    @ct8409 Рік тому +21

    Really appreciate how Lysa is sharing her journey with us, so we can heal, too.

  • @LauraFisher-pk7bq
    @LauraFisher-pk7bq Рік тому +8

    Because our relationship started when I was 13 y/o, my husbands opinion of women heavily influenced my self image. Around 40 y/o I lost myself; identity and self worth. God has been doing a work in me to define me from His perspective. Just now hubby interrupted my study, expressing ridicule that I would make him wait until I was ready. He has been conditioned to expect me to jump to his demands. Changing expectations is trauma. It creates conflict. As 1Cor 13 says, I’m trying to change in love. That’s hard to do. I need to be confident of my ally, Jesus, and what He says of me. To know He’s my rock/truth to stand upon. And I choose to give Jesus the glory/credit for what He’s doing.
    Your program gives me tools from God for the confidence. God’s Holy Spirit gives me the power to stand firm.

  • @jesusiscomingsoon2781
    @jesusiscomingsoon2781 10 місяців тому +4

    I was beginning to hear bitterness in my head. I was asking God why. Then the lord lead me here. The spirit bitterness is gone. Thank you Lord for your grace. Thank you these messages.

  • @jacquelinecorey3789
    @jacquelinecorey3789 2 роки тому +7

    The more people try to go around it instead of going through it, the more trauma they end up experiencing...WOW

  • @Mrssmith2011
    @Mrssmith2011 2 роки тому +24

    Thank you, Lysa - Thank God for your genuineness and your courage to be honest and vulnerable in a Godly and gentle way. I’m so heartbroken for you and your children and grandchildren children - but comforted that you are not done walking with the LORD through these horrible hard circumstances. Thank you for showing us how to suffer well - it’s the distinct sign of a person ransomed by God.

  • @frances4773
    @frances4773 Рік тому +6

    “You can only stay numb for so long…accepting reality at all costs”….thank you so much for your deep dive to help us heal for real 🙏

  • @honoredandloved
    @honoredandloved 8 місяців тому +2

    "3 steps forward, 2 steps back" is true to my reality right now.. I wish someone would explain to me why now almost 3 months after I broke up with the toxic ex and went no contact, I thought I was doing really well but nowadays I keep having dreams about him.. sweet ones, not even nightmares.. its heavy getting up from those kind of dreams
    Even with these weird sleep interruptions, I pray that He's still moving me forward

  • @sylviairsigler121
    @sylviairsigler121 2 роки тому +7

    Walking THROUGH the valley with God ... even though... WHEN we walk through the floods we will not be drowned... we are nor consumed... we are conquerors through Christ on the path to healing

  • @spiritsoulsanctuary1656
    @spiritsoulsanctuary1656 2 роки тому +15

    Thank you for acknowledging that our Creator experienced severe loss. Thank you all for this session, using your hurt, knowledge and wisdom to help us through your pain. I love that God is our heart healer. 🌿❤️🦋

  • @user-gt4tr9ik3i
    @user-gt4tr9ik3i 11 місяців тому +3

    I do not know how to thank you three for all the answers that I have needed especially how to forgive and move forward. Praise the Lord

  • @marjorymsuku9312
    @marjorymsuku9312 7 місяців тому +1

    "walking with me through it..."💞💞💞🙏

  • @GewoonelsJustels
    @GewoonelsJustels Рік тому +4

    20 months ago I lost most of my eyesight and just 2 1/2 weeks. I have gone through a lot of the pain already and I see gods hand in it and how we can use the circumstances. But for now it remains a struggle to say goodbye to my vision. Through is the only way; it will increase my faith, it will increase my authority and it will strengthen my testimony.

  • @belindaauntbhiggins7716
    @belindaauntbhiggins7716 2 роки тому +22

    So much of this is confirmation of things I've been learning recently. Thank you. I REALLY needed this teaching. Bravo for addressing mental health, emotional health and spiritual health simultaneously. This is a gift 💜

  • @rebeccahayhurst442
    @rebeccahayhurst442 2 роки тому +18

    Thank you for sharing this Lysa. I am grieving over many losses too. My moms death and a marriage ending and much pain with that. Thank you for these videos.

  • @nancylohe986
    @nancylohe986 Рік тому +3

    Lisa ,'I want to walk with you to go through this instead of you getting over with it ,' I love ❤ this ❤
    Mental Health and Spiritual Health is a commitment to reality at all cost 🙏

  • @Kiai808
    @Kiai808 3 місяці тому +1

    Lysa, Jim, and Joel, I’m so grateful to you for these videos ❤❤❤ god bless you

  • @laurenhill9513
    @laurenhill9513 2 роки тому +11

    Your story has changed my life and spoke DIRECTLY to my own situation. I am so thankful to have found your ministry through a friend. God bless. ❤️

  • @regenawilson8607
    @regenawilson8607 Рік тому +8

    That was so profound Joel! We have to go through! It's when we try to short cut that we experience more trauma.

    • @jld4870
      @jld4870 Рік тому

      Amen. The brain is an organ just like any other organ. When it is not functioning as it’s meant-through injury or disease we have to pay attention to it. To pay attention to it we have to diagnose it correctly and treat it correctly.
      All that being said ignoring-moving around, jumping over a diseased organ will not make it go away and certainly will not bring it back to optimal health.

  • @staceytallas4821
    @staceytallas4821 8 місяців тому +2

    I like Joel’s defining going through or getting out. I have lived “going through” with a lot of people choosing to “get out”. As Lysa says, most people operate from a desire to “ just get out…”, they want instant relief! Having said this, I have had to accept that many of the people I know are those that want to “get out”. This leaves me living a life where the relationships I want are non-existent! The relationship I have with The Lord is “almost the only relationship” I live with someone actually “going through” with me. I cherish my “going through” relationship with The Lord. I miss the relationships I want, but I accept that they are just non-existent.

  • @jessicap6438
    @jessicap6438 2 роки тому +4

    I just want say you are a Beautiful Woman of God!! Inside and out!

  • @carriekneisley
    @carriekneisley Рік тому +3

    I am so thankful for these videos! I am healing from loss, significant betrayal and other trauma. And my relationship with the Lord I am wrestling with as well bc of it all. These videos are an inspiration.

  • @kylielogan8771
    @kylielogan8771 Рік тому +2

    It maybe a new trauma easier to deal with the worse trauma is the one that re-triggers past traumas usually a method used by abusive person who knows your personal vulnerabilities.

  • @pamelaguzman7516
    @pamelaguzman7516 Рік тому +6

    I can relate to all of this. I suffer from emotional trauma, emotional abuse, loss of a loved one who died very young. Family separated, getting sick, some even died ,friends abandoned me, lack of teamwork snd communication on the spot , stepdad not being a good influence , family moving away ,change after change after change. I never had the chance to heal from any of this. Recently I met amazing friends, and mentors thst helped me not focas on those things anymore and focas on healing myself. These obstacles have been going on sense age 9 1/2 and now I’m 26. I have one of your books” it’s not so-posed to be this way” . It’s really amazing. I still have slot of growing and healing to do. I’m not 100% even though I moved away from my mom and stepdad. I feel trapped. Any advice?

    • @ceceliahudson4467
      @ceceliahudson4467 Рік тому +3

      Hello Friend. It has been said that we are in a constant state of grief. Realizing that 1 thing has begun to help me to be free: free to feel, free to be me, free to accept myself, free to counter the enemy's lies. Recent changes in my life have forced me to look at loneliness and "invite God" into it. This has given me hope. I can actually accept that now, whereas, one year ago, I could not do that. I have recently returned to Journalling, too. I see Him answering prayers. I speak truth into Your life, and I am asking God the True Holy Spirit to help you on your journey. In Christian love from one Journey Woman to Another.

  • @catherinemiss6360
    @catherinemiss6360 2 роки тому +7

    wow. this was incredible. I've been searching for something like this for 3 years

  • @leslyverbeten8719
    @leslyverbeten8719 2 роки тому +4

    Thank you so much for doing these. You are speaking right to things I've been walking through over the past 10 years. I feel like there are stages where you revisit the same feelings and thoughts, and that feels so frustrating...almost like "what's wrong with me, why can't I just GET this?" I guess it's like an onion, God is peeling back more layers. I had a loss of marriage, and now loss of relationship and expectations not being realized. Disappointment has been really strong.

  • @rosesponaugle3503
    @rosesponaugle3503 2 роки тому +5

    Although l have not been through a divorce, still within a marriage and life itself, as you said, there is often pain and betrayal and loss because of course, we are sinners living in a sinful world. Like you, years ago whenever anyone, including myself, was going through a difficult time, my first prayer would be for deliverance. Of course....right? None of us enjoys suffering. Not that deliverance isn't now a part of my prayer , but l try to make my main focus on how do l glorify God through this and what is God teaching me. I'm learning too that often God doesn't remove the thorn from our sides so that His strength may be made perfect in our weakness. In which case, and l'm sure you've heard this prayed before, maybe prayed it yourself, "Father, if you're not going to change my circumstances, please change my attitude toward my circumstances". He's a good God. "But you, O Lord, are a shield about me, my glory, and the lifter of my head".-Psalm 3:3
    I am so thankful for your ministry. The pain you have gone through and your transparency through it is an example of Joseph's response to his brothers, "What you meant for evil, God used for good". You've used the evil Satan has directed toward you to equip and strengthen others. You are also living out ll Corinthians 1.
    So thank you again for doing your part to build us all up in Christ. 🌿💛✝️

  • @amyevans9574
    @amyevans9574 2 роки тому +2

    Thank you! I’ve been waiting for these to come back. Love y’all! 💗

  • @jessannhair6245
    @jessannhair6245 2 роки тому +5

    Thank you for your honesty and transparency, it has helped me tremendously.

  • @Luisa-cs2pd
    @Luisa-cs2pd 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you very much for sharing this - it is so helpful and important. God bless you all.

  • @toreyhewitt9107
    @toreyhewitt9107 2 роки тому +2

    so amazing! thank you for putting this together

  • @Khrystal-Karlett092
    @Khrystal-Karlett092 2 роки тому +1

    Yes! God puts us in process vs instantaneous miracles. ❤️

  • @delicatebycarla
    @delicatebycarla Рік тому +1

    So grateful for this podcast! It has been super helpful for me as I walk through the hardest season of my life yet.

  • @zo1820
    @zo1820 2 роки тому +3

    I can’t wait for the rest of the story🙏🏼. You are a great team and you’re insight about trauma has led this to be helpful to so many people.

  • @heidi6622
    @heidi6622 Рік тому +1

    Such a good word - a commitment to reality. Thank you

  • @i_am_elizabeth6775
    @i_am_elizabeth6775 Рік тому

    Thank you Therapy & Theology- I have been through so much trauma which includes childhood wounds, betrayal from friendship s and the loss of my son. This video was so powerful for me. Recently the story of the
    Red Sea 🌊 has been so powerful and how Joel went in depth about it was so powerful. A Million Thank yous.

  • @goldenlifelove7251
    @goldenlifelove7251 9 місяців тому

    This was so helpful to me in putting my situation into perspective. The loss I feel after being dumped has been very traumatic for me. I miss the friendship horribly & am trying to dig myself through my feelings & healing at the same time. Everything mentioned here is what I needed to hear. I know God will use this for my good & hope it brings me to the right person who'll love me the right way. I know God gave me this heart & hope it'll be for the right person soon.

  • @basemsamy9403
    @basemsamy9403 14 днів тому

    Such a wonderful and fruitful conversation. A side note though, it would be better if the guests had taken longer time than the interviewer, I guess.
    Blesings

  • @kerenherrera3125
    @kerenherrera3125 2 роки тому +9

    When is part two and three coming out?!

  • @danielgradussov647
    @danielgradussov647 Місяць тому

    You guys are amazing❤🙏

  • @celebratelifetodaywithcele8428
    @celebratelifetodaywithcele8428 2 роки тому

    Thank you

  • @mdereus1
    @mdereus1 Рік тому +1

    I remember back at the loss of a marriage - the grief was unbearable. Lysa, you define the process - the movement through the grief process. II believe it is powerful to give people hope through the process on a Godly plan. Thank you.

  • @Melody-dx7ji
    @Melody-dx7ji 2 роки тому

    Love me some Lysa!!

  • @ramtuffmama8060
    @ramtuffmama8060 Рік тому +6

    My story is similar, and still ongoing. Seems to be dragging on; waiting for the Lord to direct my next step. All advice is to divorce. I’m the only one saying I’ll wait. Questioning that. Thank you for these videos.

    • @julienester7923
      @julienester7923 Рік тому +4

      I also encourage you to wait on the Lord. Let Him be your guide. I am in the same place of waiting on the Lord and growing in the Lord. Not accepting to "just divorce and move on." It is very difficult. When others and even my own heart have wanted to skip ahead the Holy Spirit and the consequenses of my actions have always reminded me that it is God's timing that is perfect Not mine. You are right to wait. In the meantime grow in the Lord and His word while you wait, friend.

  • @athenafields1360
    @athenafields1360 2 роки тому +2

    Going through trauma therapy and grief once again…..😩

  • @Clickrbee
    @Clickrbee Рік тому

    Great insights! I would like to hear what the therapist has to say. Would love it if he would give tips and techniques...

  • @shinrin-yoku3877
    @shinrin-yoku3877 Рік тому

    Oh my gosh, I love the ocean analogy. Literally just yesterday I was telling someone I felt like I was in the middle of an ocean and no land in sight 🙏

    • @jenniferbranch9047
      @jenniferbranch9047 4 місяці тому

      I am so sorry for your pain, Lysa. But I am grateful for it because it is helping me walk through my trauma as I navigate my own healing.

  • @leahingraham5509
    @leahingraham5509 9 місяців тому +3

    Year and half after divorce. Still dont feel im anywhere near healed. Im still in so much grief. Especially because SO much happened That was very traumatizing within the marriage and have been with him for 20 years. Plus we've tried a few times after the divorce to try to reconcile but it's not gone very great. I feel like I'm still stuck so much

    • @OfficialProverbs31Ministries
      @OfficialProverbs31Ministries  9 місяців тому +1

      We're saddened to hear of your story, Leah. Thank you for your vulnerability and willingness to share it. Pausing now to pray for your heart!

    • @leahingraham5509
      @leahingraham5509 9 місяців тому +1

      @@OfficialProverbs31Ministries Thank you so much! ❤️

  • @thedoover6520
    @thedoover6520 Рік тому

    This is good

  • @kimrouse8548
    @kimrouse8548 Рік тому +1

    Some of these stages are protective… til the mind is ready to process through. Just saying as a nurse. All at once would overwhelm.

  • @virginiaprokop3699
    @virginiaprokop3699 Рік тому +2

    This is a great session. I had a very abusive childhood by my mom she never accepted me.my parents would send me to my grandmas house and weeks would go by and they would not pick me up even though they said they would but forget me.Fastforward I’m 58 yrs old and they still reject me and want nothing to do with me and cut me out of the family.THANK THE LORD FOR JESUS ❤️❤️❤️🌹🌹🌹🌹I always forgive them every time just don’t know why this happens my whole life.

    • @jagmom5164
      @jagmom5164 Рік тому +1

      Find ways to keep your life FULL w others
      Go play Bingo or any type of activity where you connect with others & make strong friendships.
      That WILL replace mothers, Fathers, brothers, sisters...even children who treat us like we don't matter.

  • @oilinmylamp
    @oilinmylamp 2 роки тому +6

    I thought their marriage was on the mend. I'm so sorry, if she is going through a divorce. 💔💝💖 I relate, I have been there.

    • @Texan_Gal
      @Texan_Gal 2 роки тому +1

      They’re divorced 😕

    • @Texan_Gal
      @Texan_Gal 2 роки тому +4

      @@Parentingwiththefutureinmind she announced their divorce at the beginning of the year I believe. I remember reading about it. She’s such a gorgeous woman and godly. It’s just mind-boggling! And it makes me think, If it happened to her than it can happen to anyone.

    • @KJ-lb4tj
      @KJ-lb4tj 2 роки тому +3

      I think the first time there was an affair she worked through and even as I remember did a re-marrying or vow taking ceremony. But a year or so later there were multiple other affairs and betrayals, unsalvageable at that stage.

    • @barbs1298
      @barbs1298 2 роки тому +2

      @@KJ-lb4tj So very sad.

    • @oilinmylamp
      @oilinmylamp 2 роки тому +1

      @@KJ-lb4tj I did not do know that. 💔

  • @mfh13610
    @mfh13610 2 роки тому +2

    You have no idea how this hit spot-on today. Your story sounds like my story. I'm always amazed at the way that God provides. I needed to hear these things today. What I am missing though is the second video. It just pops up on my phone as unavailable. Is there a reason for that? How do I access the next video let alone the third one?

    • @OfficialProverbs31Ministries
      @OfficialProverbs31Ministries  2 роки тому

      Hi, friend. Click here to watch the second video: ua-cam.com/video/zyzoEApVjlI/v-deo.html and then be sure you're subscribed to the Proverbs 31 Ministries UA-cam channel so you don't miss another episode!

  • @shinrin-yoku3877
    @shinrin-yoku3877 Рік тому

    Walk with through

  • @DJH97
    @DJH97 Рік тому +1

    Death of a 30 year marriage and the death of my oldest son and moving to a new home all within 3 months of each other. The marriage had been dying for years. I just didn’t want to give up. But my sons death was unexpected. Then the betrayal of my ex husband knowing my sons whereabouts (out of state) for a week before he died and never telling me just compounded everything. Talk about trauma. Not sure I’ll ever recover.

  • @margaretgreen2826
    @margaretgreen2826 Рік тому +1

    Wow I love the theology theory of genesis 3 and GOD’s loss .

  • @SuperCandyjunkie
    @SuperCandyjunkie 2 роки тому +1

    Where can I get a copy of the Stages of Grief?

  • @kin2him
    @kin2him Рік тому

    I would be interested to know if Lysa reads these comments?

  • @romans8287
    @romans8287 2 роки тому +4

    Thank you for the video. I'm going get a divorce after 33 years. And I still in love with my husband😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

    • @melaniedeen8475
      @melaniedeen8475 2 роки тому

      Praying for you 🙏🙏🙏
      It’s been 2 years after 40+ years of marriage. I’m still not ok. I pray you heal quickly and can move on better than I am.

  • @grannyonthego4893
    @grannyonthego4893 Рік тому +1

    What if the people around you just do NOT get it?!!! and want you to ... move on ... forget it & get over it ...

  • @danielgradussov647
    @danielgradussov647 Місяць тому

    I wish i watched this video when my wife left could of saved me 2months of crying myself to sleep on my kitchen floor not understanding what i was going through😅

  • @kimrouse8548
    @kimrouse8548 Рік тому +1

    You forgot walking around the walls of Jericho… 7 times, til the Lord brought the walls down.

  • @janettaylor2158
    @janettaylor2158 4 місяці тому

    What can I do if there is no one within 200 miles of me ?

  • @esthersaldana9772
    @esthersaldana9772 2 роки тому +1

    The book by Dave Carder Torn Asunder is what helped me with my feelings during my divorce after 30 years of marriage. My feelings were approved and normal.

  • @jesuschristsaves392
    @jesuschristsaves392 2 роки тому +3

    Dear God💗❤️♥️💖💖💕❤️💞🙏in heaven, I come to you in the name of Jesus. I acknowledge to You that I am a sinner, and I am sorry for my sins and the , life that I have lived; I need your forgiveness.
    I believe that your only begotten Son Jesus Christ shed His precious blood on the cross at Calvary and died for my sins, and I am now willing to turn from my sin.
    You said in the bible that if we confess the Lord our God and believe in our hearts that God raised Jesus from the dead, we shall be saved.
    Right now I confess Jesus as my Lord. With my heart, I believe that God raised Jesus from the dead. This very moment I accept Jesus Christ as my own personal Savior and according to His Word, right now I am saved. Amen.

  • @jesuschristsaves392
    @jesuschristsaves392 2 роки тому +1

    The Gospel of salvation of our souls: 💜💕💖✨💖❤️📖✝️🕎💡💡❤️❤️❤️💖💜♥️💖❤️❤️💕For what I received I passed on to you as of [first importance]: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures, and that he appeared to Peter, and then to the Twelve. After that, he appeared to more than five hundred of the brothers and sisters at the same time,