@@Hogtownboy1 This is untrue. Burton's Sleepy Hollow was a critical and commercial success and set him up for a lot of movies in the 2000s that as far as I know were all financial hits while being critically devisive (Honestly they were all good films in their own right, the "worst" being the 2001 Planet of the Apes which was only Okay but at least had stellar ape makeup and performances going for it)
@@Hogtownboy1 As far as I know, the only Burton movie that didn't at least make its money back was ironically his most critically adored, Ed Wood. While some of his 2000s and onward films have been devisive for critics and fans, they were all "hits" financially.
One of my children has been obsessed with this story since they were very little and my husband has actually read the story to them a few times. So I have useless information about the story trapped in my brain, so I appreciate you including the actual history around the story!!!
Rankings? 1. The Legend of Sleepy Hollow by Washington Irving (you need to read it again, it is a beautifully atmospheric story) 2. The Disney adaptation 3. The Tim Burton film
I'm currently reading THE best book on the background, history, and influence on Washington Irving writing The Legend of Sleepy Hollow. It's called "Legends and Lore of Sleepy Hollow and the Hudson Valley," by Jonathan Kruk. It provides details on the Revolutionary War that were worked into the story, local superstitions and folklore, environmental details and beliefs that formed the local collective psyche, and more. I highly recommend this to anyone who loves all things Sleepy Hollow!
I'd read the short story long before seeing the cartoon and before the movie was made. I understand why they almost had to have a real looking headless horseman in a visual medium, but in a written medium, the stong implication that it was Bram Bones was very well done.
The cartoon was always a favorite when I was a kid, I watched it every Halloween. The Tim Burton adaptation is masterful. His changes expanded and improved upon the original, and made it even better. Great review!
Great video! 👍 One of my favorite stories. I grew up listening to a Disney LP storybook of The Legend of Sleepy Hollow. My daughter is a huge Tim Burton fan, and Sleepy Hollow is a part of the regular movie rotation here.
A lot of people have the misinterpretation that the Headless Horseman is based on the Dullahan. Irving would not have heard about the Dullahan until long after he wrote the story while on his travels. The headless ghost in his story is based on the Wild Hunt in Norse mythology and a poem written by Sir Walter Scott, who was Irving’s good friend. The modern concept of the Dullahan is actually more inspired by Irving’s horseman than the other way around. A thing I always found crazy was that Heinrich Range died at the age of 24.
The sequel to the Val Lewton horror film CAT PEOPLE, CURSE OF THE CAT PEOPLE, is set in Tarrytown or Sleepy Hollow. And the legend of the headless horseman is invoked. A little girl runs away into the snow and ends up "trapped" on the bridge as she thinks approaching horse's hooves are getting closer. A modern gothic psychological mood piece.
Great adaptations love them both; even though the live action film changes a lot of the character’s interpersonal relations and profession still cool. Nostalgia makes the ‘toon best though.
If only the Burton film had kept its style but stuck closer to the book. For me the ambiguity of the supernatural elements is what makes the story great. Did Brom off poor Ichabod or scare him off disguised as the horseman? The real history behind the Hessian soldier buried there is interesting and poignant too.
That's a great idea! I don't know when I would get thr video up but I would love to talk about those, as well as other Sleepy Hollow adaptations in the future.
Love your channel. I really wish that Tim Burton had done a sequel to Sleepy Hollow that had Ichabod and the young boy who was helping him, travelling to Paris to investigate the Phantom of the Opera.
I did like the story and the cartoon. I also like the tv show they did called Sleepy Hollow tell they did in the late 2010showever they changed direction so drastically in I believe the third season but the early seasons would be fun to rewatch. One of these days I will get to the Johnny Depp version now that I braver with Horror. There was also one in the 80s my family rented with Jeff Goldblum which was intresting where in the beginning crane doesn’t believe in the superstition
@@Decado1628 It was fun seeing Ichabod Crane be a fish out of water in our time and the mystery with the Horsemen was interesting. Sad things took a turn
Mine is the episode of Wishbone where I first go introduced to Legend of Sleepy Hollow. Then in elementary school they showed us some cartoon but it was not the Disney one it was some random one.
Sleepy Hollow is a huge favorite of mine. Tim Burton improved on the original material. It looks like a gothic fairytale. I don’t know if Tim is up for this, but I would love to see a detective series based on what happens to Ichabod and Katrina in NYC.
I enjoyed the book. Perhaps yours did have typos, I don’t remember it being difficult to read. However, it is different than the movie. It’s very descriptive and not nearly as scary. The cartoon is probably my favorite. But the movie is beautifully shot and definitely scary 😱
I’d say one of the last classic early Burton films as you can feel his style all over it. I like that he changed certain elements to tell his version of the story, but it works and it also pays tribute to the Hammer horror films of the ‘50s-early ‘70s
At least in Tim Burton film they follow the story at first. It's only into the middle of the story that when the Headless Horseman is real that's when all hell breaks loose.🎃
That confusing and oddly worded version of the book you read sounds like it was translated into another language and then back to English again. A couple poor translations stacked atop one another would be my guess or, at least, someone who didn't have a good grasp of English putting their foreign language version through a bad software translation.
Yeah that makes sense, it was one I bought on my kindle a couple years back 🤷♀️ But reading a different version after finishing that one definitely helped me make more sense of the story lol.
If you haven't done it yet, I would love to see you do a book vs. Movies on I Know What You Did Last Summer. The original young adult novel by Lois Duncan, to not just the first movie of the same name' but also the sequel I Still Know What You Did Last Summer ( which carries elements from the book) and the third movie I'll Always Know What You Did Last Summer. That, I would like to watch you cover.
I did cover the first one! The video on UA-cam is just the audio because that was before I filmed actual videos. I haven't covered the sequels though but I definitely should, especially since I heard there's a new movie in the works
The half-unintelligible text you quote does not appear to be Irving's original wording; it sounds like a bad translation into English from a version in some other language. For the correct text, I would suggest that you try Project Gutenberg online, where that same passage, even if written in more flowery language than we would use today, is perfectly comprehensible. By the way, the idea that the horseman cannot cross the bridge is pretty certainly inspired by Robert Burns' poem Tam O'Shanter, where the various demonic beings have the same limitation.
Ironically, I rewatched the Burton movie last night. It is a great Halloween season movie. The costumes and set design of the movie are really great at helping set the tone of the movie. I remember watching the cartoon as a kid and have listened to the book once. I definitely agree that the Burton movie beats the book.
Well, if you are going to get on Washington Irving, you might as well get on Disney since they took fairy tales and made them their own. I don’t think it’s wrong to take a folk tale and expand on it.
Yeah I don't have anything wrong with that either. I had just spent my whole life thinking he was who to thank for creating the idea of the headless horseman lol.
@@WhytheBookWins Its only intresting as sometimea the names given to characters in books and film help to define themes. The movie the Matrix is a good example of this. Think Characters like Morpheus (The god of Sleep) and Neo (meaning New). Depending on the writer it can help as a sort of hermeneutic.
It would be interesting to get your thoughts on Sleepy Hollow the TV series - which I thought was a very entertaining jumping off from the Sleepy Hollow legend.
Great video. I grew up watching the Disney cartoon. On the Disney channel. I use to get mad. Because The Legend of Sleepy Hollow. Had to be seen with Mr Toad. I do like Tim Burton's Sleepy Hollow is good. Johnny Depp was great as Ichabod crane. The Horseman was funny. The book was good. Have you seen the Legend of Sleepy Hollow. With Jeff Goldblum. I will check out your other videos.
Yeah as a kid I don't remember not being as into the Mr. Toad story lol. And no I haven't, I didn't realize till someone else commented that there was a Goldblum movie! I need to watch it.
The book is in a different class, altogether. The movie is decent enough, but winds up being like so many things today...more like an action/horror hybrid than anything else. The short story could not BE any more influential. When most people...meaning non-white trash...picture Halloween, or autumn, in general, their thoughts parallel so many of the images from this story...
@@WhytheBookWins yeah I enjoyed it, it took some interesting turns with the characters, although it did have a weird crossover with Bones of all shows. That just came out of nowhere lol
This is actually one of my least favorite Burton movies. I can't really explain why, but the stuff they added to expand the runtime just didn't really do it for me
One of Tim Burtons best movies. What a masterpiece.
Unfortunately Burtons film flopped at box office and set Burtons career back
That sucks, but at lest now it's one so many people love.
Tim Burton is such an underrated director, his visual style is one of the most distinct in all of cinema history
@@Hogtownboy1 This is untrue. Burton's Sleepy Hollow was a critical and commercial success and set him up for a lot of movies in the 2000s that as far as I know were all financial hits while being critically devisive (Honestly they were all good films in their own right, the "worst" being the 2001 Planet of the Apes which was only Okay but at least had stellar ape makeup and performances going for it)
@@Hogtownboy1 As far as I know, the only Burton movie that didn't at least make its money back was ironically his most critically adored, Ed Wood. While some of his 2000s and onward films have been devisive for critics and fans, they were all "hits" financially.
One of my children has been obsessed with this story since they were very little and my husband has actually read the story to them a few times. So I have useless information about the story trapped in my brain, so I appreciate you including the actual history around the story!!!
Aw that's so cute! Glad you liked the video ☺️
Chloe is adorable! ❤
Thanks 😊
Rankings?
1. The Legend of Sleepy Hollow by Washington Irving (you need to read it again, it is a beautifully atmospheric story)
2. The Disney adaptation
3. The Tim Burton film
The correct order! I also am fond of the other animated adaptation with the more funny character designs.
I'm currently reading THE best book on the background, history, and influence on Washington Irving writing The Legend of Sleepy Hollow. It's called "Legends and Lore of Sleepy Hollow and the Hudson Valley," by Jonathan Kruk. It provides details on the Revolutionary War that were worked into the story, local superstitions and folklore, environmental details and beliefs that formed the local collective psyche, and more. I highly recommend this to anyone who loves all things Sleepy Hollow!
Oh perfect! I would definitely like to learn more.
@@WhytheBookWins It's short, concise, well-written. Just perfect.
I'd read the short story long before seeing the cartoon and before the movie was made. I understand why they almost had to have a real looking headless horseman in a visual medium, but in a written medium, the stong implication that it was Bram Bones was very well done.
Yeah i do love that ambiguity of the book!
The cartoon was always a favorite when I was a kid, I watched it every Halloween. The Tim Burton adaptation is masterful. His changes expanded and improved upon the original, and made it even better. Great review!
I agree! Glad you liked my review 😊
Great video! 👍 One of my favorite stories. I grew up listening to a Disney LP storybook of The Legend of Sleepy Hollow.
My daughter is a huge Tim Burton fan, and Sleepy Hollow is a part of the regular movie rotation here.
Thanks! Yeah this one is a classic 😀
A lot of people have the misinterpretation that the Headless Horseman is based on the Dullahan. Irving would not have heard about the Dullahan until long after he wrote the story while on his travels. The headless ghost in his story is based on the Wild Hunt in Norse mythology and a poem written by Sir Walter Scott, who was Irving’s good friend. The modern concept of the Dullahan is actually more inspired by Irving’s horseman than the other way around. A thing I always found crazy was that Heinrich Range died at the age of 24.
Oh wow, thanks for sharing!
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Thank you! I'm glad you like it 😊
The sequel to the Val Lewton horror film CAT PEOPLE, CURSE OF THE CAT PEOPLE, is set in Tarrytown or Sleepy Hollow. And the legend of the headless horseman is invoked. A little girl runs away into the snow and ends up "trapped" on the bridge as she thinks approaching horse's hooves are getting closer. A modern gothic psychological mood piece.
My favorite Sleepy Hollow movie is the one with Brent Carver and Canadian actors. It really expands on the relationship between Katrina and Brom.
Great adaptations love them both; even though the live action film changes a lot of the character’s interpersonal relations and profession still cool. Nostalgia makes the ‘toon best though.
Yeah the cartoon is so fun!
I love your videos. Did you make a video of the Witches of Eastwick movie vs book?
Thanks! And I haven't, but it's been on my list for a while. I saw the movie a while back and remember really liking it.
@@WhytheBookWins Oh! This is one where there’s almost no similarity at all.
If only the Burton film had kept its style but stuck closer to the book. For me the ambiguity of the supernatural elements is what makes the story great. Did Brom off poor Ichabod or scare him off disguised as the horseman? The real history behind the Hessian soldier buried there is interesting and poignant too.
Yeah it would have been cool if they made a story that left you guessing the way the book does.
Would you be willing to cover the Shelley Winters or Wishbone TV specials of Sleepy Hollow?
That's a great idea! I don't know when I would get thr video up but I would love to talk about those, as well as other Sleepy Hollow adaptations in the future.
Love your channel. I really wish that Tim Burton had done a sequel to Sleepy Hollow that had Ichabod and the young boy who was helping him, travelling to Paris to investigate the Phantom of the Opera.
Oh wow, that would have been an interesting crossover.
Loved the story, liked the cartoon and have a mixed relationship with the movie. Excited for you to cover Washington Irving nonetheless! 🎃 🐴 🌟
I did like the story and the cartoon. I also like the tv show they did called Sleepy Hollow tell they did in the late 2010showever they changed direction so drastically in I believe the third season but the early seasons would be fun to rewatch. One of these days I will get to the Johnny Depp version now that I braver with Horror. There was also one in the 80s my family rented with Jeff Goldblum which was intresting where in the beginning crane doesn’t believe in the superstition
Yeah I've heard of the show but have never watched it. I didn't know there was a version with Goldblum!
@@mariaskabardonis8353 the first season of Sleepy Hollow was very good!
@@Decado1628 It was fun seeing Ichabod Crane be a fish out of water in our time and the mystery with the Horsemen was interesting. Sad things took a turn
Mine is the episode of Wishbone where I first go introduced to Legend of Sleepy Hollow. Then in elementary school they showed us some cartoon but it was not the Disney one it was some random one.
I loved Wishbone when I was a kid! I remember their Sleepy Hollow one 😊
Sleepy Hollow is a huge favorite of mine. Tim Burton improved on the original material. It looks like a gothic fairytale.
I don’t know if Tim is up for this, but I would love to see a detective series based on what happens to Ichabod and Katrina in NYC.
Ooo that would be awesome!
@@WhytheBookWins It would take place in the turn of the 19th century. It would be like visiting another country.
I enjoyed the book. Perhaps yours did have typos, I don’t remember it being difficult to read. However, it is different than the movie. It’s very descriptive and not nearly as scary. The cartoon is probably my favorite. But the movie is beautifully shot and definitely scary 😱
Yeah that edition i had was so weird! But yeah very descriptive.
I’d say one of the last classic early Burton films as you can feel his style all over it. I like that he changed certain elements to tell his version of the story, but it works and it also pays tribute to the Hammer horror films of the ‘50s-early ‘70s
Definitely!
I do very much like the short story, but it could very easily come off as just a courtship story with a ghost intruding into it
However, the book that the short story debuted in (The Sketch Book) has a lot of real gems
I believe Burton was trying to do an homage to the old Hammer horror movies.
Yeah I read that! I have only seen a couple Hammer movies though, so I wouldn't have caught that had I not read it on IMDb.
At least in Tim Burton film they follow the story at first. It's only into the middle of the story that when the Headless Horseman is real that's when all hell breaks loose.🎃
I never realized the cartoon was that old. As a kid I assumed it was from the 70's maybe early 80s but damn pre 1950's is crazy.
Seriously! And Bing Crosby narrating seems so random lol.
That confusing and oddly worded version of the book you read sounds like it was translated into another language and then back to English again. A couple poor translations stacked atop one another would be my guess or, at least, someone who didn't have a good grasp of English putting their foreign language version through a bad software translation.
Yeah that makes sense, it was one I bought on my kindle a couple years back 🤷♀️ But reading a different version after finishing that one definitely helped me make more sense of the story lol.
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If you haven't done it yet, I would love to see you do a book vs. Movies on I Know What You Did Last Summer. The original young adult novel by Lois Duncan, to not just the first movie of the same name' but also the sequel I Still Know What You Did Last Summer ( which carries elements from the book) and the third movie I'll Always Know What You Did Last Summer. That, I would like to watch you cover.
I did cover the first one! The video on UA-cam is just the audio because that was before I filmed actual videos. I haven't covered the sequels though but I definitely should, especially since I heard there's a new movie in the works
The half-unintelligible text you quote does not appear to be Irving's original wording; it sounds like a bad translation into English from a version in some other language. For the correct text, I would suggest that you try Project Gutenberg online, where that same passage, even if written in more flowery language than we would use today, is perfectly comprehensible. By the way, the idea that the horseman cannot cross the bridge is pretty certainly inspired by Robert Burns' poem Tam O'Shanter, where the various demonic beings have the same limitation.
Ironically, I rewatched the Burton movie last night. It is a great Halloween season movie. The costumes and set design of the movie are really great at helping set the tone of the movie. I remember watching the cartoon as a kid and have listened to the book once. I definitely agree that the Burton movie beats the book.
Totally agree! So atmospheric.
Well, if you are going to get on Washington Irving, you might as well get on Disney since they took fairy tales and made them their own. I don’t think it’s wrong to take a folk tale and expand on it.
Yeah I don't have anything wrong with that either. I had just spent my whole life thinking he was who to thank for creating the idea of the headless horseman lol.
Fun literary fact.
The name Ichabod means "The Glory has departed."
I had no idea! Thanks for sharing.
@@WhytheBookWins Its only intresting as sometimea the names given to characters in books and film help to define themes.
The movie the Matrix is a good example of this.
Think Characters like Morpheus (The god of Sleep) and Neo (meaning New).
Depending on the writer it can help as a sort of hermeneutic.
Having somebody named Ichabod is the best villain name It even has ich in the name
So, if anyone happens to be in Tarrytown, get the pizza! It’s in old town down from the bookstore, first rate pizza.
Good to know! I would love to visit.
It would be interesting to get your thoughts on Sleepy Hollow the TV series - which I thought was a very entertaining jumping off from the Sleepy Hollow legend.
It was worth a watch!
I'll have to check it out!
Great video. I grew up watching the Disney cartoon. On the Disney channel. I use to get mad. Because The Legend of Sleepy Hollow. Had to be seen with Mr Toad. I do like Tim Burton's Sleepy Hollow is good. Johnny Depp was great as Ichabod crane. The Horseman was funny. The book was good. Have you seen the Legend of Sleepy Hollow. With Jeff Goldblum. I will check out your other videos.
Yeah as a kid I don't remember not being as into the Mr. Toad story lol.
And no I haven't, I didn't realize till someone else commented that there was a Goldblum movie! I need to watch it.
The book is in a different class, altogether. The movie is decent enough, but winds up being like so many things today...more like an action/horror hybrid than anything else. The short story could not BE any more influential. When most people...meaning non-white trash...picture Halloween, or autumn, in general, their thoughts parallel so many of the images from this story...
Did you ever watch the tv series?
No I haven't, do you like it?
@@WhytheBookWins yeah I enjoyed it, it took some interesting turns with the characters, although it did have a weird crossover with Bones of all shows. That just came out of nowhere lol
Washington Irving's story is the best Halloween story ever written. I am shocked it is so easily dismissed here.
It's definitely a Halloween classic!
This is actually one of my least favorite Burton movies. I can't really explain why, but the stuff they added to expand the runtime just didn't really do it for me
Oh interesting, what's a favorite Tim Burton of yours?
@@WhytheBookWinsI love Beetlejuice (both movies), Edward Scissorhands, and this is a bit of a hot take, but I really liked Dark Shadows
@Eric_1991 Dark Shadows is a hot take lol, though to be fair, I saw that in theaters and don't remember too much, so I should rewatch it.
Cute kitty.
Thanks 😺
The ring was prob the first movie to really terrify me
I still haven't seen that! Just the clips I saw growing up freaked me out though. But it's based on a book so maybe I'll cover it at some point.
@@WhytheBookWins oh you gotta watch it. You're in the perfect month for it to 🎃
No. Absolutely not. The Wolfman is not getting edged out by the headless horseman.
Oooo true, he's definitely a Halloween staple.