Yeah, but whatever the universe is has toi be part of an infinitely complex omniverse that doesn't start or stop. Anything existing at all calls for infinity, or else you always get the real paradox of something "out of" nothing, nothing is nothing and simply cannot exist as long as any observer exists or anything at all, really, and I know I exist even if I don't from the point of view of other observers doesn't change the fact I a m conscious and aware that things exists.
@@tommyrjensen Some calculate the Uni as flat, not curved, meaning it's infinite. Creation ab nihilo is possible. Look up *_"Subquantum Kinetics: A Systems Approach to Physics and Cosmology"_* by Dr. Paul A. LaViolette
Our logic tells us there must be cause and effect. However, existence itself proves this to be inaccurate. What caused the Universe (or multiverse if you prefer) to exist? If you're religious you will invoke god as the creator. That only facilitates the question "What created god"? My only conclusion is that reality doesn't truly function anything like the way we perceive it.
There is no such thing as infinite, certainly not the universe, which is very definitely finite. Everything inside our universe began 13.8 Billion years ago and has been expanding ever since. It is a closed system with a boundary, so half the sky would be black near the edge.
A boundary needs an outside to exist, if there is a boundary what is beyond the boundary? empty space perhaps. but that in itself is something. Finite matter in an infinitely otherwise empty universe is possible but highly improbable.
@@timkbirchico8542 The BB theory doent require the Universe to be expanding INTO anything. A boundary does not mean there has to be an outside, it could be an area of space so heavily distorted that all light returns through 180deg. Without significantly more advances in physics or we are able to visit/see the edge, nothing can be confirmed. The one thing we know for sure is our universe is finite and whats outside may or may not exist.
Possibly, but it could be infinite, cause it exists. Existence does not come from nothing. And because existence still here after probably infinite time, maybe infinity exists in the other dimensions.
@@jarisoderholm919 A thought experiment If we had a ship that could take us instantly to the edge of a finite universe what would we see beyond the boundary? Empty space? Could we travel beyond the border of a finite universe? And observe the finite universe behind us? then if we travel far enough will we see another local universe? If we cant travel beyond the boundary then what force is repelling us? I am sure you can carry these thoughts on.
I find that non biblical explanations for most things in science are childish fantasy. The problem I had is The HOLY BIBLE is for believers and I could not get there from the crap I learned in school. I never stopped looking into the truth and now I can see. Please take a leap of faith. Eternity is real and we should want to get that right! Mark R GOD BLESS US ALL!
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Unfortunately the BigDung and space-time concepts are incompatible with an infinite Uni.
Yeah, but whatever the universe is has toi be part of an infinitely complex omniverse that doesn't start or stop. Anything existing at all calls for infinity, or else you always get the real paradox of something "out of" nothing, nothing is nothing and simply cannot exist as long as any observer exists or anything at all, really, and I know I exist even if I don't from the point of view of other observers doesn't change the fact I a m conscious and aware that things exists.
Unfortunately your misunderstandings of both are quite commonplace.
@@tommyrjensen Some calculate the Uni as flat, not curved, meaning it's infinite.
Creation ab nihilo is possible. Look up *_"Subquantum Kinetics: A Systems Approach to Physics and Cosmology"_* by Dr. Paul A. LaViolette
Our logic tells us there must be cause and effect. However, existence itself proves this to be inaccurate. What caused the Universe (or multiverse if you prefer) to exist? If you're religious you will invoke god as the creator. That only facilitates the question "What created god"? My only conclusion is that reality doesn't truly function anything like the way we perceive it.
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we are but a speck of dust on a pebble in an infinite black ocean...
@@waynedarronwalls6468 Hello, I thought that for a time. But If that is true, why obey any rules since there would not be any consequences? Mark R
Is ours the only universe,, I think not 😮
There is no such thing as infinite, certainly not the universe, which is very definitely finite. Everything inside our universe began 13.8 Billion years ago and has been expanding ever since. It is a closed system with a boundary, so half the sky would be black near the edge.
A boundary needs an outside to exist, if there is a boundary what is beyond the boundary? empty space perhaps. but that in itself is something. Finite matter in an infinitely otherwise empty universe is possible but highly improbable.
@@timkbirchico8542 The BB theory doent require the Universe to be expanding INTO anything. A boundary does not mean there has to be an outside, it could be an area of space so heavily distorted that all light returns through 180deg. Without significantly more advances in physics or we are able to visit/see the edge, nothing can be confirmed. The one thing we know for sure is our universe is finite and whats outside may or may not exist.
Possibly, but it could be infinite, cause it exists. Existence does not come from nothing.
And because existence still here after probably infinite time, maybe infinity exists in the other dimensions.
@@jarisoderholm919 A thought experiment
If we had a ship that could take us instantly to the edge of a finite universe what would we see beyond the boundary? Empty space? Could we travel beyond the border of a finite universe? And observe the finite universe behind us? then if we travel far enough will we see another local universe? If we cant travel beyond the boundary then what force is repelling us? I am sure you can carry these thoughts on.
@@jarisoderholm919 If your 'theory of the universe' or indeed ANY theory includes 'infinity' its a big clue you are WRONG.
I find that non biblical explanations for most things in science are childish fantasy. The problem I had is The HOLY BIBLE is for believers and I could not get there from the crap I learned in school. I never stopped looking into the truth and now I can see. Please take a leap of faith. Eternity is real and we should want to get that right! Mark R GOD BLESS US ALL!
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@@jimmadalerichardson792 Believe all you want, just keep your nonsense to yourself. We're not looking for bullshit.