Exactly the reason I switched sides to barra. Love my cammed ls but these things are literally monsters! Lovin the vids bro always look forward to them, hands down my favourite content creator!
Your not wrong at all man! Definitely both have their perks but mod for mod you can’t even compare the two hey! I appreciate it legend! Means the world to me 🙌🏼
@@tye1019 No it doesn't. If you already have an LS, you just gotta turbo it. Instead he got a barra which he'd need to build it completely to get numbers better than a turbo LS
Great video buddy ! You definitely can spend cash on them . Where do you draw the line in modifications , I’m happy where I’m at but always chasing more Happy days 🤙
Really enjoying your Barra content as I'm looking at rebuilding my FG 50th Turbo after buying a new rig. Deciding to rebuild or purchase a built motor from Atomic.
Awesome vid. I love your attitude towards brand loyalty as well. If something’s fast, reliable and relatively cheap, who cares what badge is on the grille? Brain-dead bogans, that’s who. The whole Ford vs Holden argument is like a kindergarten squabble. They both have good points and bad, neither are the last word in quality, and both made decently built cars that could be modded and tuned to go fast. Aussies should be massively proud of what both Ford and Holden produced here over the years, especially considering how minuscule our car market is. I’m a blue oval guy from birth, but don’t think for a second I don’t love a Holden with a S/C LS under the bonnet. Your build is pretty inspiring. I’ve got an F6 that I’m reluctant to mess with too much, but I’ve got another Barra powered Falcon and a couple of SOHC falcons that are candidates for a similar, budget-conscious build. Which to choose?🤔🤔🤔
I've got a similar build just slightly less extreme, single intank pump, 3582 instead of 3584 and stock tailshaft other than that everything is basically the same with just some brand differences, next up is going to be a set of cams, nothing crazy either kelford 218ez or 218a haven't decided yet, getting because the stock ones are starting to look a bit pitted. Suspended license for the next 12 months though so might end up doing more in that time, Built bottom end is definitely in the cards depending on how I go money wise and If it does go that way I'll be needing a bigger turbo and surge tank to keep up. ATM running 410kw mainly because 98 wouldn't get that much more from e85 with the current fuel system though and not worth it for me unless It's on flex with e85 being a bit harder to come by and enjoying long drives to the mountains.
Anyone know if it’s worth going to an external internally routed set up ruining a pulsar gtx3582r gen 3? Not chafing big power to be honest but current turbo has cracked the rear housing and am looking to just buy new 😂
Hey bro can you go over why you shouldn’t drive a done up falcon in normal drive mode? I’ve heard a few friends mention it. But i feel like when i’m racing someone it’s just easier to put your foot down and not worry about shifting manually
What happens is if the transmission kicks down a gear or two with power it will snap in input shaft in the trans… something you don’t want 😂 get into the habit of using the tip tronic because 450kw is risky for kickdowns
How your box is holding up? We have an almost identical setup i just havent switched over to e85 yet. Currently running 430rwkw on 98 and 18psi in my f6, only thing from stopping me is wondering if the box will flog itself out 😅
Box is holding up fine, just comes down to how well maintained it was during the course of its life! Still shifts fine and doesn’t do any funny hiccups! Just a risk you’ll have to take my man. Could last 100kms or could last 10,000kms 😂
Hey bro, love the video here. I have an NA FG XR6 MK2 (ZF box). Do you think if the engine is in good condition that going for a turbo conversion would be worth it to do something like your video, or is it best to sell this car and get a factory turbo? (Currently on green P's, still 2.5 years until full license in VIC). I understand that I may be looking at upgrading the pistons, rods, and valves + other preventive mods along the way. Thank you.
Hey bro, Thankyou 👌🏼 NA+T will cost you a lot more than buying an XR6T! Trust me on that! Better to wait and get the real deal unless you plan on doing a full complete big driveline build
@@GAMBIN.BUILDS Thanks dude. I think the main idea for barras like you mentioned is a power to cost factor, wouldnt make much sense unless your pushing crazy power, even then you would probably get a billet block. Thank you!
Bigger stroke doesn’t make HP, it makes torque. Walked a few 600HP barras with a TH400 behind it which also robs about 80WHP but will make up for it in torque 👌🏼 wasn’t your average small cammed 5.7 making 400HP it was a stroked 6.3L
Nice build, but if you think the barra is cheap easy power you should have a look at the 2018+ mustangs that have the gen 3 coyote with 10 speed. They love boost and will do 800hp all day long with a Whipple or pro charger
@@GAMBIN.BUILDS 440rwkw for 3k ain’t bad for a stock Miami engine. Get your self a gen3 coyote with gearbox for 12 to 15k make a turbo kit make any bolt on barra silly.
@@grantdavis2381 so 12-15k then what about the tailshaft? Or do we not care about people loosing feet in the back seat? 16k with all the safety and 635kw… big difference silly
@@GAMBIN.BUILDS tailshaft loops are very cheap, I do not know what you are taking about, if you are running a true 800 at the wheels your block will have some windows, it’s been proven that the coyote/mod/LS platform is superior.
@@grantdavis2381 news flash buddy, been 9 months of constant bashing and I haven’t had a single issue at 785hp at the hubs, if you don’t think I know a thing or two maybe go through my videos let alone my recent videos 👌🏼 appreciate the advise but
@@GAMBIN.BUILDS dude the Barra is junk.20 years of JDM mostly 2jz.it dominates the Barra.yes the 2jz is expensive.but you get what you pay for...the Barra has 0 top end the jz is the top end king.i have gapped that many Barras in freeway runs it's no longer fun...the Barra has that many engineering flaws it's not funny. core shift at 16 psi..is just the start...the Barra is like a poor design Chinese drill next to the 2jz.
@@Lifeat90 the only engineering flaws on the Barra is the harmonics 😂 other than that they do 3x more than what any RB/JZ would do as a SBE like I’ve proved in this video! No doubt the jap motors are great but barras are not “junk” as you say. They have done far more than what most motors can do mod for mod
@@GAMBIN.BUILDS ok if you say so.keep dreaming.the comparison has been done buy the best engine builders and they all say the same thing.jz is the king for a reason the Barra is far from great.then there is dudes like you that think you know.and know 2 parts of nothing.why is the harmonics so bad on a barra.eveything is just in the wrong place.listen to the shit sound that's the begging of the shit Barra story.jdm engineering is top of the food chain.keep a grip on reality it would help.
Exactly the reason I switched sides to barra. Love my cammed ls but these things are literally monsters! Lovin the vids bro always look forward to them, hands down my favourite content creator!
Your not wrong at all man! Definitely both have their perks but mod for mod you can’t even compare the two hey! I appreciate it legend! Means the world to me 🙌🏼
Made the wrong decision. If you slapped a turbo on that LS it'd be way better than a barra.
@@KAI11IRVINGcost 10 times more
@@tye1019 No it doesn't. If you already have an LS, you just gotta turbo it. Instead he got a barra which he'd need to build it completely to get numbers better than a turbo LS
Stepson just pulled a Bazza turbo out of a FG and put it in his GU patrol. It's awesome. We just sit there looking at it when it isn't running.
Great content as always keep it up! I own a xr6t fg with minimal mods and these type of videos keep my dream alive to go down this path of a build 👌
Thankyou legend! That’s awesome to hear! Definitely worth doing man
I’ve got a factory gas bf wagon I have always wanted to do a turbo Barra sleeper build on
Loving the UA-cam content, can’t wait for the clubsport to be build
Thankyou legend 🫶🏼 first video of the series coming up shortly 👊🏼
Great video buddy !
You definitely can spend cash on them .
Where do you draw the line in modifications , I’m happy where I’m at but always chasing more
Happy days 🤙
Really enjoying your Barra content as I'm looking at rebuilding my FG 50th Turbo after buying a new rig. Deciding to rebuild or purchase a built motor from Atomic.
Built motor would be the go! But this is the alternative
Which process west surge tank you running the new cylinder style or the box one . What pumps are they to .
Did you do fuel rail ?
New cylinder shape, twin 525’s I believe. No fuel rail
Picked up my first Falcon recently. NA FG 400xxx ks. only paid $2500. Gonna try a mild built NA first before i go turbo!
Yiewww!
🤙👍 hope the build is running strong currently building mine to hold up to 1500hp but tune safe at around 800 to 950 and being a ute will be fun 😂
Awesome vid. I love your attitude towards brand loyalty as well. If something’s fast, reliable and relatively cheap, who cares what badge is on the grille? Brain-dead bogans, that’s who. The whole Ford vs Holden argument is like a kindergarten squabble. They both have good points and bad, neither are the last word in quality, and both made decently built cars that could be modded and tuned to go fast. Aussies should be massively proud of what both Ford and Holden produced here over the years, especially considering how minuscule our car market is.
I’m a blue oval guy from birth, but don’t think for a second I don’t love a Holden with a S/C LS under the bonnet.
Your build is pretty inspiring. I’ve got an F6 that I’m reluctant to mess with too much, but I’ve got another Barra powered Falcon and a couple of SOHC falcons that are candidates for a similar, budget-conscious build. Which to choose?🤔🤔🤔
@@bengibson3955 Thankyou my bro! Just stating facts as always! You’re 110% right!
Good onya,I’m a ford man but I still like Holdens,I have posters of both on my walls but I own a bf typhoon,good to see you can run both
I've got a similar build just slightly less extreme, single intank pump, 3582 instead of 3584 and stock tailshaft other than that everything is basically the same with just some brand differences, next up is going to be a set of cams, nothing crazy either kelford 218ez or 218a haven't decided yet, getting because the stock ones are starting to look a bit pitted. Suspended license for the next 12 months though so might end up doing more in that time, Built bottom end is definitely in the cards depending on how I go money wise and If it does go that way I'll be needing a bigger turbo and surge tank to keep up. ATM running 410kw mainly because 98 wouldn't get that much more from e85 with the current fuel system though and not worth it for me unless It's on flex with e85 being a bit harder to come by and enjoying long drives to the mountains.
Good job mate 👍🏻. How do find the pulsar turbo GTX3584.?
Thankyou mate! Absolutely love it! Sounds awesome and you can’t even compare price wise to any cheap or expensive turbo
Anyone know if it’s worth going to an external internally routed set up ruining a pulsar gtx3582r gen 3? Not chafing big power to be honest but current turbo has cracked the rear housing and am looking to just buy new 😂
It will be the same thing man! Just won’t sound as good 😎😂
Im looking into getting one. Do you have any recommendations as to who to contact for an inquiry?
what timing chain kit did you go with?
Thank you very much, excellent informative video.
You are welcome!
Are you using stock ecu ?
Hey bro can you go over why you shouldn’t drive a done up falcon in normal drive mode? I’ve heard a few friends mention it. But i feel like when i’m racing someone it’s just easier to put your foot down and not worry about shifting manually
I’ve just completed my falcon build and pushing 450rwkw
What happens is if the transmission kicks down a gear or two with power it will snap in input shaft in the trans… something you don’t want 😂 get into the habit of using the tip tronic because 450kw is risky for kickdowns
How your box is holding up? We have an almost identical setup i just havent switched over to e85 yet. Currently running 430rwkw on 98 and 18psi in my f6, only thing from stopping me is wondering if the box will flog itself out 😅
Box is holding up fine, just comes down to how well maintained it was during the course of its life! Still shifts fine and doesn’t do any funny hiccups! Just a risk you’ll have to take my man. Could last 100kms or could last 10,000kms 😂
@@GAMBIN.BUILDS yehhhh putting dosh away for a built zf or a th400 conversion haven't quite decided yet 😂 both are fkn expensive
@@zskytop8790 built ZF for sure! Would drive 100x better than a th400
Can't get the zf to shift down without clunking, any ideas guys?
What a sick build
Are you running an external waste gate and down pipe?
Watch the video before commenting aye 🤦♂️
@@garthpaterson8882kefe
Good vid man, definitely good power for money, I'll probably go a bit less as mostly city use, on to the rest of the vids....lol
20k into it but it's still a heavy ass taxi. It won't even run a 9 second pass. Once a taxi, always a taxi. Good engine, shit chassis.
Hey bro, love the video here.
I have an NA FG XR6 MK2 (ZF box). Do you think if the engine is in good condition that going for a turbo conversion would be worth it to do something like your video, or is it best to sell this car and get a factory turbo? (Currently on green P's, still 2.5 years until full license in VIC).
I understand that I may be looking at upgrading the pistons, rods, and valves + other preventive mods along the way.
Thank you.
Hey bro, Thankyou 👌🏼 NA+T will cost you a lot more than buying an XR6T! Trust me on that! Better to wait and get the real deal unless you plan on doing a full complete big driveline build
@@GAMBIN.BUILDS Thanks dude. I think the main idea for barras like you mentioned is a power to cost factor, wouldnt make much sense unless your pushing crazy power, even then you would probably get a billet block. Thank you!
Late BF turbo Barras have the same internals as an FG turbo Barra. Its only the 2003-2005 BA and 2005-2006 BF that have the shit turbo motor.
how good does falcon content do on this platform hey!
It’s going great! Keen to see how the Clubsport content goes 😁
Are these 3R rods? Or 1R from factory...
If it's an xr6 turbo fg will be 3r rods.
If it's a turbo converted car, retaining the factory non turbo assembly.
Then it's 1r rods.
Very impressive
How did you put 30K into a LS and only got 400 horsepower?
Bigger stroke doesn’t make HP, it makes torque. Walked a few 600HP barras with a TH400 behind it which also robs about 80WHP but will make up for it in torque 👌🏼 wasn’t your average small cammed 5.7 making 400HP it was a stroked 6.3L
Awesome bro thanks alot
Nice build, but if you think the barra is cheap easy power you should have a look at the 2018+ mustangs that have the gen 3 coyote with 10 speed. They love boost and will do 800hp all day long with a Whipple or pro charger
Mustangs also 30+ k more lmao
2017 s550 my old man made just over 600rwkw for an extra 18k...
Since you do a lot of the work yourself , and buy pulsar products , it’s minimal bro
Very true man! Definitely helps out 👌🏼
Wait until you start doing suspension than brakes than differential than gearbox 😂
I’ve done half of them already 😂 just the diff and box I haven’t touched
@@GAMBIN.BUILDS Man it adds up but we don't think of the money just the benefits
@@matman429 for sure 👌🏼
Me pretending I understand any of this 🤓
Go race it and see if it really makes 800hp!!!!!!! If it does it should run 9.5 147mph
A few more factors go into racing, doesn’t mean it’ll run that time but should see a high 9 if it gets the right 60 foot 👌🏼
@@GAMBIN.BUILDS 650-670hp In a fg should go 10.0/9.9 140mph
800hp is 9.3 145mph+ pass
@@barrakingbeatz7794 I guess we will find out when the weathers finally good enough to hit the strip 👌🏼
Just go a coyote, save your money.
@@grantdavis2381 a coyote cost more to make this power 😂 a whipple is the price of what all of this cost
@@GAMBIN.BUILDS 440rwkw for 3k ain’t bad for a stock Miami engine. Get your self a gen3 coyote with gearbox for 12 to 15k make a turbo kit make any bolt on barra silly.
@@grantdavis2381 so 12-15k then what about the tailshaft? Or do we not care about people loosing feet in the back seat? 16k with all the safety and 635kw… big difference silly
@@GAMBIN.BUILDS tailshaft loops are very cheap, I do not know what you are taking about, if you are running a true 800 at the wheels your block will have some windows, it’s been proven that the coyote/mod/LS platform is superior.
@@grantdavis2381 news flash buddy, been 9 months of constant bashing and I haven’t had a single issue at 785hp at the hubs, if you don’t think I know a thing or two maybe go through my videos let alone my recent videos 👌🏼 appreciate the advise but
Just save up and build a decent JDM engine these Barras are junk
@@Lifeat90 been there & done that. Not everybody wants over priced & over hyped rust bucket builds
@@GAMBIN.BUILDS dude the Barra is junk.20 years of JDM mostly 2jz.it dominates the Barra.yes the 2jz is expensive.but you get what you pay for...the Barra has 0 top end the jz is the top end king.i have gapped that many Barras in freeway runs it's no longer fun...the Barra has that many engineering flaws it's not funny. core shift at 16 psi..is just the start...the Barra is like a poor design Chinese drill next to the 2jz.
@@Lifeat90 the only engineering flaws on the Barra is the harmonics 😂 other than that they do 3x more than what any RB/JZ would do as a SBE like I’ve proved in this video! No doubt the jap motors are great but barras are not “junk” as you say. They have done far more than what most motors can do mod for mod
@@GAMBIN.BUILDS ok if you say so.keep dreaming.the comparison has been done buy the best engine builders and they all say the same thing.jz is the king for a reason the Barra is far from great.then there is dudes like you that think you know.and know 2 parts of nothing.why is the harmonics so bad on a barra.eveything is just in the wrong place.listen to the shit sound that's the begging of the shit Barra story.jdm engineering is top of the food chain.keep a grip on reality it would help.
Is this bloke ok
Shitbox barras 🤣
I’m so excited man. I’ve been messaging you on instagram to. Looking forward to this video.
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Thankyou legend 👊🏼
@@GAMBIN.BUILDS you welcome 🙏