The Hypercore motor has a massive axle that acts as a heatsink. This way they can run higher power without overheating. Hypercore is the brand name of this technology.
This has given me a great idea! I have an old trotter Chinese onewheel clone sitting in the grass as it was too dangerous to ride confidently at speed due to poor firmware design and no updates. I could just buy the VESC driver and use that to make my ride much more stable and behave like a onewheel. Finally I have a solution and already have the wheel and case footpads etc. Think I'll use a lithium titanate battery to give it longer life. (20,000 cycles).
Hi. I am looking to build one just like that. I have already made myself eskate. And I can't recommend enough li po batteries. They are much more practical and can handle higher currents. So they will never overheat when chraging and can handle hills reliably. I recommend just putting 2x 5s in series for 42V. You can then use standard scooter charger. But you need to get balancer. Also building antispark switch is easy. Just buy some quality transistor (MOSFET) with good current rating. Around 5EUR should be good. I like the design. I will aim for something like this with little lower profile hopefully.
I've been waiting for someone to build a battery that's integrated into the fender. It seems like the most logical place to put it. You could link it with a battery under the foot pad and you'd have a 60 mile range. Lol.
@@bytesizedengineering its surprisingly easy been making them for years for ebikes now look at one wheels. Makes far more sense doing it yourself, pre built batteries are insanely expensive for what they are, and often dont contain a bms or dont have a bms with enough function. i would very much recomend a bluetooth bms for cell safety and life. and you can save the battery indicator as you can just see it in the app. if you looka t the app you will know well in advance of any issues with teh battery, you'll see a group of cells start discahrgine more than others etc, and in the bms app you can say stop charging at x-voltage if you know you arnet riding far that day and thus massively extend life, you can get about 2000cycles when you dont fully charge. i know bms takes space but its worth sacraficing some of that range you will probably never use.
@@GlaucusBlue cool.. I'm thinking of using a lithium titanate battery. They are way safer and last 10 times longer. 20,000 cycles to 80% capacity! Titanate are a bit bigger for the sane capacity but worth it I recon. Can currently only be bought from china via eliexpress.
Super cool ! The only 2 suggestions I might have ... Fuse the battery slightly over the max current you expect to use from the motor and electronics...just cause. After you figure out how you wanna do the foot pads... Put some regular ol' painters tape over the sensor. So that if you ever peel your grip tape, it won't try to take the sensor with it.
@@bytesizedengineering I work in big batteries. We fuse "all the things". Sooo many fuses. One not always so easy trick of the engineering process, is figuring out how to make the thing serviceable for later.
@@bytesizedengineering Let onewheel community know, i am sure anyone living close would LOVE to come try a custom board and let you burrow theirs for comparison
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did you have to add a counterweight balance out the huge battery on the opposite side Building your own can you split the battery between both sides to eliminate extra redundant weight?
You're probably well into your new design, but If I were printing new parts for this project I'd probably use ASA. It's basically ABS with better UV resistance.
Video is quite old, so i do not expect any updates to the project, but maybe you could think about V2? Its super fascinating, I would love to see it and try it! Great series, greetings from Czechia.
I Just got a onewheel as a gift so that peaked my interest. However, I am thinking it would be cool to build a completely customized one wheel with extended range.
Those force sensitive resistors are pretty expensive, like $14 each. You could use a mechanical button, but personally I think that's a clumsy solution
instead of a pressure sensor what about a proximity sensor or a hardline surf leash type situation? This could double as remote line to a backpack kept battery.. Something like the remote line on a paintball gun. take a small battery on a short trip and pack a big battery on a long trip could have an arsenal of batteries ready to be packed up keeping the board light as possible when desired. Even using something like power tool batteries would be nice being able to plug and play different sizes without having to get into the innards.
Lowering the center axle to give another 2” of ground clearance seems like it would give you a better break over angle on the front under acceleration. This type of thing seems sketchy having 2 inches clearance from the front of the board catching the ground while doing 18mph haha. Excellent job though looks like you did a good job on it
Hi, I consider building DIY onewheel or VESC as they are called and I wander how is your experience after an year and what do you think about firmware updates that came out in last few months.
Given the cheap price of hoverboards I was thinking that scavenging one for parts might make sense. Wonder what the properties of two thinner wheels in the center like a Onewheel (so side-by-side in the middle) might be? Could allow some interesting control system possibilities. Can always run the two motors together (and mechanically link them maybe) if that property wasn't desired. One wide tire might have better off-road capabilities than two narrower ones, I suppose.
It would be cool to see you incorporate bluetooth connectivity, if Vesc has a mobile apk or something along those lines. That way you could see the output and parameters of the board on the fly.
That was the plan, and yes there is a VESC app. However the interface on the VESC uses the same port for the IMU as it does for Bluetooth. I can only have one or the other. Other VESC units have provisions for both but they are more expensive.
I pinned a comment at the top that has a link to buy the build guide. If you click on that link you'll be taken to my website listing. Within the listing description you'll find the link to GitHub where all the design files are hosted for free.
I started tracking distance using an app on my phone. My plan was to drain the whole battery while tracking distance. I was riding around the neighborhood until a ate it really hard on the asphalt. I injured my shoulder and got some minor road rash!
I haven't tried it on very many hills. I'm still not confident in my riding abilities! It's not going to go up any super steep hills probably, but I think slow gentle hills it should have no problem
Hypercore is the name of their motor technology and the concept of pulling heat out of the motor core and dispersing it through the axle and into the rails. Not much special about it except it can take a lot before it overheats.
$600 is too much for me.. how can i bring the cost even lower.. ? Can i use ESC+Audrino to lower the cost ? Edit: I'm a student and i cant spend much, but i want it for my daily commute... Is there any way for a budget build ? ESC+audrino+accelerometer+gyro+footpad pressure sensors+PID controller... what else !?
Damn are you really going to ride 40 to 60 miles at 12 mph? Seems like you'd be better served saving weight and going with a smaller battery. Amazing project though!! 🤯
Hey I'd totally commute like that, sounds like fun. 30 mile ride each way and charge when you get home. Or hell, living in the northeast mountains PEV's get way less range due to hills, usually about 1/3 in my experience with hoverboards and ebikes.
That's because a scooter and a diy onewheel are two very different things. That's like saying "A diy Tesla seems expensive when you know you can buy a very capable Toyota Camry for much less"
E-Scooters used to be for drug dealers now they're for your sad aunty or your nan. Might be faster, cheaper, have better range and faster charging but Onewheel is fast enough and just about enough range.....is much cooler but most importantly IS MORE FUN THAN ANY OTHER E VEHICLE....it beats any EUC, any boostedboard or stupid sad e-scooter everyday all day long
Let me pay you $1000 for one😭 I have none of the skills or resources to build one and I don’t have 2200 for one either lol awesome channel ! Like and sub from me man.
Hypercore is just the name they put on there brushless hub motor, this is really cool. These DIY onewheel projects give us an alternative.
The Hypercore motor has a massive axle that acts as a heatsink. This way they can run higher power without overheating. Hypercore is the brand name of this technology.
Plus some guy in the UK made a Onewheel years before Future Motion patented/released the og OW
@@chrisjb241 A common occurrence Chris, companies ripping off someone else's idea and leaving the original designer in the dirt without a penny..
This has given me a great idea!
I have an old trotter Chinese onewheel clone sitting in the grass as it was too dangerous to ride confidently at speed due to poor firmware design and no updates. I could just buy the VESC driver and use that to make my ride much more stable and behave like a onewheel.
Finally I have a solution and already have the wheel and case footpads etc. Think I'll use a lithium titanate battery to give it longer life. (20,000 cycles).
Thanks for getting this out! Have been looking forward to it! :)
Thanks Anthony!
Hi. I am looking to build one just like that. I have already made myself eskate. And I can't recommend enough li po batteries. They are much more practical and can handle higher currents. So they will never overheat when chraging and can handle hills reliably. I recommend just putting 2x 5s in series for 42V. You can then use standard scooter charger. But you need to get balancer. Also building antispark switch is easy. Just buy some quality transistor (MOSFET) with good current rating. Around 5EUR should be good. I like the design. I will aim for something like this with little lower profile hopefully.
I've been waiting for someone to build a battery that's integrated into the fender. It seems like the most logical place to put it. You could link it with a battery under the foot pad and you'd have a 60 mile range. Lol.
I just bought the materials to build my own lithium battery packs! I'm excited to delve into making my own.
@@bytesizedengineering its surprisingly easy been making them for years for ebikes now look at one wheels. Makes far more sense doing it yourself, pre built batteries are insanely expensive for what they are, and often dont contain a bms or dont have a bms with enough function. i would very much recomend a bluetooth bms for cell safety and life. and you can save the battery indicator as you can just see it in the app. if you looka t the app you will know well in advance of any issues with teh battery, you'll see a group of cells start discahrgine more than others etc, and in the bms app you can say stop charging at x-voltage if you know you arnet riding far that day and thus massively extend life, you can get about 2000cycles when you dont fully charge. i know bms takes space but its worth sacraficing some of that range you will probably never use.
@@GlaucusBlue cool.. I'm thinking of using a lithium titanate battery. They are way safer and last 10 times longer. 20,000 cycles to 80% capacity!
Titanate are a bit bigger for the sane capacity but worth it I recon. Can currently only be bought from china via eliexpress.
Super cool man! Profit margin for future motion is insane.. Nice work!
Super cool !
The only 2 suggestions I might have ...
Fuse the battery slightly over the max current you expect to use from the motor and electronics...just cause.
After you figure out how you wanna do the foot pads...
Put some regular ol' painters tape over the sensor. So that if you ever peel your grip tape, it won't try to take the sensor with it.
Great suggestions. For the fuse, I'd rather change out a cheap fuse then damage something unintentionally.
@@bytesizedengineering I work in big batteries. We fuse "all the things". Sooo many fuses.
One not always so easy trick of the engineering process, is figuring out how to make the thing serviceable for later.
lol yea, I didn't like the grip tape directly over the sensors either!
This is great thank you. Source for wheel/motor? Bought from AliExpress/Peiscooter and they haven’t shipped in 3 months. Need alternative plz.
Very Cool! Love the way you have engineered your way to success!
hey at least you can change the battery without it bricking the board
Hats off! Perhaps you could do a side by side comparison with acceleration range and so on. Very cool project!
That would be interesting, but I'd need a real one first and they're expensive!
@@bytesizedengineering Let onewheel community know, i am sure anyone living close would LOVE to come try a custom board and let you burrow theirs for comparison
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I'm glad to see that you've named it the OpenWheel. Using the "other name" was only tempting fate!
did you have to add a counterweight balance out the huge battery on the opposite side Building your own can you split the battery between both sides to eliminate extra redundant weight?
You're probably well into your new design, but If I were printing new parts for this project I'd probably use ASA. It's basically ABS with better UV resistance.
Absolutely! ASA is a game changer
could you just add more of the 2x2 foot sensors?
Video is quite old, so i do not expect any updates to the project, but maybe you could think about V2? Its super fascinating, I would love to see it and try it! Great series, greetings from Czechia.
Hi! When Onewheel V2? I'd like to build an improved version :)
Greetings from Poland!
This one has user replaceable parts, that already a win
would i possibly be able to ask you what thickness the aluminium tubing is that you used thankyou in advance
I think it's 1/8" thick I have a full bill of materials as well as a build guide with tons of details.
so if you have about 700 in it. would a grand be good to buy one?
I Just got a onewheel as a gift so that peaked my interest. However, I am thinking it would be cool to build a completely customized one wheel with extended range.
Instead of the two force sensors why not have more or have the foot pads be big buttons?
Those force sensitive resistors are pretty expensive, like $14 each. You could use a mechanical button, but personally I think that's a clumsy solution
@@bytesizedengineering it depends I think it could be like soft buttons to feel like a stiff spring loaded pad or it could a dance floor tile!
@@bytesizedengineering 14$ each is a lot more than I expected for something so simple.
instead of a pressure sensor what about a proximity sensor or a hardline surf leash type situation? This could double as remote line to a backpack kept battery.. Something like the remote line on a paintball gun. take a small battery on a short trip and pack a big battery on a long trip could have an arsenal of batteries ready to be packed up keeping the board light as possible when desired. Even using something like power tool batteries would be nice being able to plug and play different sizes without having to get into the innards.
Great build👍
EUC next? 😁
Now that you've got all of the video series done, can you go back to each one and drop links into each description to all of the videos at once?
Lowering the center axle to give another 2” of ground clearance seems like it would give you a better break over angle on the front under acceleration.
This type of thing seems sketchy having 2 inches clearance from the front of the board catching the ground while doing 18mph haha.
Excellent job though looks like you did a good job on it
Hi, I consider building DIY onewheel or VESC as they are called and I wander how is your experience after an year and what do you think about firmware updates that came out in last few months.
Soo cool man. Well done 👏
Where do you get your wire spools? I'd love to have some bigger spools.
Waytek wire
@@bytesizedengineering Thanks!
Could you use multiple foot sensors in series and parallel?
Yeah that is a possibility, but those sensors were like $15 each and I was trying to keep the cost down
@@bytesizedengineering Three pads down the center, wired such that pressure on any one (or more) of them activates the OpenWheel.
Couldn't you make a matrix of those pressure pads? or is that too costly?
Great idea, however they're $15 a pop. I couldn't find them cheaper
How many hours do you have invested in this project?
Hundreds
@@bytesizedengineering I suspected as much. Pay with time vs money but you're always going to pay!
Given the cheap price of hoverboards I was thinking that scavenging one for parts might make sense. Wonder what the properties of two thinner wheels in the center like a Onewheel (so side-by-side in the middle) might be? Could allow some interesting control system possibilities. Can always run the two motors together (and mechanically link them maybe) if that property wasn't desired. One wide tire might have better off-road capabilities than two narrower ones, I suppose.
wut isn;t a one wheel more than $2000....
Fascinating idea...
It would be cool to see you incorporate bluetooth connectivity, if Vesc has a mobile apk or something along those lines. That way you could see the output and parameters of the board on the fly.
That was the plan, and yes there is a VESC app. However the interface on the VESC uses the same port for the IMU as it does for Bluetooth. I can only have one or the other. Other VESC units have provisions for both but they are more expensive.
Super interesting! Where can I find the bill of materials?
I pinned a comment at the top that has a link to buy the build guide. If you click on that link you'll be taken to my website listing. Within the listing description you'll find the link to GitHub where all the design files are hosted for free.
Huge battery! That's awesome. Curious to see what range you get.
I started tracking distance using an app on my phone. My plan was to drain the whole battery while tracking distance. I was riding around the neighborhood until a ate it really hard on the asphalt. I injured my shoulder and got some minor road rash!
@@bytesizedengineering hope you get better
Thanks @@itsmealextheme6259
@@bytesizedengineering was the crash due to a malfunction of the OW?
No, I lost focus for one second. I might have been looking at my phone 🤷♂️
Thanks bro for nyc knowledge
does it also have battery indicator? like if its fully charged? =)
Yes, I put one in after I made this video. It shows battery percentage.
cool videos how does it do on hills?
I haven't tried it on very many hills. I'm still not confident in my riding abilities! It's not going to go up any super steep hills probably, but I think slow gentle hills it should have no problem
The length is going to be an issue on hills. Combined with the smaller wheel, this is a flatlander’s board due to the geometry.
Does it climb hills well?
I've only ridden it in flat Arizona. I'm still learning how to ride, and I'm not brave enough to go on hills yet!
Hypercore is the name of their motor technology and the concept of pulling heat out of the motor core and dispersing it through the axle and into the rails. Not much special about it except it can take a lot before it overheats.
Save another $25 on your own anti-spark on/off switch. I just noticed my $250 saving on the battery is not showing up,,,?
Awesome
$600 is too much for me.. how can i bring the cost even lower.. ?
Can i use ESC+Audrino to lower the cost ?
Edit: I'm a student and i cant spend much, but i want it for my daily commute...
Is there any way for a budget build ?
ESC+audrino+accelerometer+gyro+footpad pressure sensors+PID controller... what else !?
Love it
man. what would you charge to make me one? im deadly serious i would love for you to build me one. THANKS!
I would love to build one of these but man this looks way about my intelligence level
👍😎👍
Damn are you really going to ride 40 to 60 miles at 12 mph? Seems like you'd be better served saving weight and going with a smaller battery.
Amazing project though!! 🤯
No, not very realistic to ride that far is it!
Hey I'd totally commute like that, sounds like fun. 30 mile ride each way and charge when you get home.
Or hell, living in the northeast mountains PEV's get way less range due to hills, usually about 1/3 in my experience with hoverboards and ebikes.
Buy 2 smaller batteries and put 1 in each side... then the board will be smaller in size!!!!
midrollads spoil everything, sry
The battery and hub seem pretty expensive when you know you can buy a very capable electric scooter for $300
That's because a scooter and a diy onewheel are two very different things. That's like saying "A diy Tesla seems expensive when you know you can buy a very capable Toyota Camry for much less"
E-Scooters used to be for drug dealers now they're for your sad aunty or your nan. Might be faster, cheaper, have better range and faster charging but Onewheel is fast enough and just about enough range.....is much cooler but most importantly IS MORE FUN THAN ANY OTHER E VEHICLE....it beats any EUC, any boostedboard or stupid sad e-scooter everyday all day long
Let me pay you $1000 for one😭 I have none of the skills or resources to build one and I don’t have 2200 for one either lol awesome channel ! Like and sub from me man.
Now look how far the community has pushed VESC 🥲 these beginnings really were humble