Why is EVERYONE Using These SE Drum Mics?
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- Опубліковано 23 лип 2024
- The SE Electronics V-Pack Arena drum mics are EVERYWHERE on Instagram, and here's why! Is this the end of the SM57? PLUS, I demonstrate how you can get better drum sounds with THIS microphone placement and positioning technique.
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CHAPTERS:
0:00 SE Electronic V-Pack Arena Drum Microphones + SE7 Condenser Mics
0:25 NAMM-Tec Award-Winning Microphones
1:03 BUILD QUALITY
2:48 The DRUM KIT & PREAMPS Used to Record the Audio
3:41 The V-KICK MIC & HOW IT SOUNDS
4:43 The V-BEAT TOM MIC & HOW IT SOUNDS
6:02 The V7X SNARE MIC & HOW IT SOUNDS
7:07 THE IMPORTANCE OF DRUM MIC PLACEMENT
7:48 SE8 and SE7 CONDENSER MICROPHONES
9:48 FULL KIT AUDIO EXAMPLES
11:03 ANALYSIS, OVERVIEW & OUTRO - Розваги
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It's never occurred to me that the angle of a tom mic would impact the amount of overtones and attack getting picked up. Thank you for that!
It’s remarkable isn’t it. Positioning is everything!
Another outstanding and in-depth review mate, cheers!
best review video ive ever seen! simple, quick and can perceive perfectly sutile differences between positions
Thanks, Omar. Hopefully it was helpful.
Great review/demo Ed. Loved the "action" demonstration of the different mic placements!
Thanks, Martin! It’s amazing how much difference the angle and proximity makes.
V Beats and V7X are the same capsule btw so clamp bleed aside, use them interchangeabley. I love my sE8s and my old sE1As but I've heard people do amazing things with sE7s so now would like a pair. Would be great in a venue where you don't need the top end so much.
I learned a lot about recording and different dynamics based on mic placement. I understand why some VSTs have a microphone set up. Thanks you!
Yeh, it’s a fundamental part of the sound. Well worth experimenting with.
Great review and heaps of useful tips in there too! Thanks for helping make decisions man
Thanks, and you’re welcome. I’m genuinely VERY impressed with these mics!
@@EdThorne will have to sort myself out with a pack 🤘
Great review, good job!
Thanks for explaining Microphone technique Nice and crisp :)
I realised I more demonstrated it than explained it🤦🏼♂️ But it’s remarkable the difference isn’t it? I will do another, short video on the subject properly soon 🙂
Man, this is a great video. Subscribed!
Thank you!
Only thing I wish was included in this was a comparison of mic bleed, especially Hi-Hat bleed and including a SM57 as reference. Aside from that, great review, really enjoyed the mic placement demonstrations.
Thanks. Do you know what? I did try that but it was fiddly and the video got long enough so I canned the idea…
Man, when EV stopped making the N/D767a I was so disappointed (but I still have my one and only available if needed). When I started looking for mics for our band I came across the sE V7. I now have them in our practice room and on the band trailer. The supercardiod pattern along with proper gain staging lead to a super nice signal without much bleeding (very minimal to no gate needed). Nice demo and singing. Have a blast! Now I want their drum mics 😋
This is the second time I realized a hype over drum mics. A few years ago suddenly every big youtube drummer started using earthworks microphones. And now its these mics ;-) I really dig the EQ options of the kick mic and also the low profile of the v-beats. Great mics and great review!
Thanks, Dennis. I’ve used these live and in the studio - they deliver every time!
Ace work Ed!
Thanks, buddy. 🤘
Cool, subbed! one critical detail tho..off axis rejection..i hear they're pretty good in this aspect, possibly down to a tight cardioid and SPL response. Really dig the kick drum mic, tho I'm still on the fence with the AKG D12VR, tried one, an active beast!
Would have been nice to hear the tom's in the "7's" overhead and full mix!
I think they’re the best mics for drums right now , audix close second
Yes! Those Audix’s are tasty. The goose clamps suck though! (They become loose after several uses)
Well done.....I learned a lot watching you get the best tone. I'll hop on over to get the Tom Mics...I have the SE8s and they are very very good. I'll go through your link.
Thanks, Jeff, I appreciate that!! 🙂 Good luck with the Tom mics!
Been rocking SE7’s for Tom. Mics….. man!!!
All the tone!
I really like the sound of the kit through those mics. I almost fell off my couch when you said swap out the player, because of bad recordings lololol.
I do not know how to mic drums as I do not have the capacity to accommodate them, but I learned a lot from watching this video. Many thanks.
Cheers
You’re welcome. I’m glad it was helpful (and amusing) 🙂
have the se8 pair. best OH mics ever!
Yeh, they’re very detailed and quick transient response.
@@EdThorne I like how smooth they are on the cymbals without sounding dark.
How is there that much noise in the signal? Is that from the mic? Surely not at that high of an SPL. That's a bit worrying. @6:35
I don’t know where this noise came from, probably something silly in editing. The mics are not noisy at all!
Between these and the Audix dp7 which one would you go for
The Audix’s sound great, too, but the gooseneck D-Clamps are terrible and sag over time/with drums moving. The SEs are SOLID!
Hey Ed just curious are you still using sE drum mics? I'm looking to finish up my sE drum mic locker, so I can start recording drums properly. Always enjoy your videos. Thank you
I'll be honest, I'm using the Lewitt BeatKit Pro set atm with an Audix D6 on kick and JZ BT202/BB29s as overheads. The SEs are brilliant and I use them live.
@@EdThorne thank you for your honesty and I watched your video the other day on the JZ mics. Lewitt seems to be taking over the microphone world lately 😉 keep the videos coming brother.
ed, what would be your ultimate - money no object drum mic setup?
Kick D6 + a 47 of some kind (currently use the JZ V47), toms Lewitt’s, snare Josephson e22, hats I like the SE Dynacaster, overheads I love the JZ BB29s, rooms I’d like a tube mic of some kind. Just demod the Warm Audio CX12s and they sounded great!
@@EdThorne would be cool to do a mega drum mic shootout! I’ve seen it mentioned that the SA87T is a kick drum /overhead mic to be reconned with too.
If it's cheaper than audix, i'll try for it.
I love Audix mics (use the D6 all the time) but the goose-neck D-clamps are terrible (they come loose after a few uses and sag onto the drum). The SEs are very well-designed!!!
@@EdThorne yay! Thanks for the reply... 😄👍👍👍❤
@@EdThorne @EdThorne i don't know the pricing as of now sir, how much is the price difference for both of them. Audix dp7, Sennheiser e600 series, and in this video the SE. So many options right now with the technology evolving. And these 3 brands are my top of the list for now when it comes to drum mics. Maybe i should go for the audix or sennheiser bass drum mics, and the rest is just the option of what is cheaper of the three, coz they are almost the same on the upper kit like toms etc, except for that bass drum, the d6 and e602 is i prefer. Thanks.
they are good mics.. just remember that v-beat and v7x are the same sound wise. 100%. Same capsule and electronics. So if you like to save 50% on the tom mics, and have space for the larger body, then just buy v7x for toms.
Same capsule but I believe they've been set-up differently to cater for higher SPL levels, which creates a slightly different sound. I haven't A/B'd them though.
Which is better, this or audix dp7?
Good question. The Audix mics sound great but the D-clamp goose neck clicks suck! D6 over any kick mic ever! Rest is a matter of taste. I would compare them but someone stole my Audix mics…
@@EdThorneI guess I’ll go with SE because of that clamp issue. Thanks for your feedback!
The mic is your first EQ
100%
Overpriced Chinese product. Have seen them fail on people in live sound time and time again. Go buy a few se v7s and they’ll all sound different. Pray sweat doesn’t get into them. Moneys better spent on industry standards that’ll stand the test of time. It’s the flavour of the month just like Audix was, just like Heil was, etc. An sm57 is the most ubiquitous mic of all time. These are a fad that were cheap and have now gone up in price.
I agree, except replace the 57 with a 58.😂