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Thomas, this was such a blast. Seriously… massive, massive thank you for having me on your channel and bringing me into your ecosystem. There are so many people on the fence when it comes to making these life changes… and it's because they just don't understand that there is a simple and elegant solution. Primals like you… who can explain and educate, like how the quality of life is not measured in the number of years lived, are how we can bring our people back to strength, health, and happiness. Again, so grateful that we were able to collaborate and make this happen. Keep dominating… and let's continue to do some goddam good in this world -LK out!
LK, you should do more long format content. I have watched you on Tick Tok in short form and you are a beast however to listen to you speak so intelligently about the ancestral lifestyle has educated me and increased the respect I already had for you. Rock on brother
I grew up on a hundred acre farm in rural SC. Through the swamp my uncle had a few hundred acres where my cousins lived. During the summer we ran around outside in the sunshine all day. Our properties were full of wild plums, berries pecans and weeds like sorrel. In the evening we ate meat, from the farm, and fish that momma caught and fresh veggies that she grew, especially greens and fresh beans and peas. We snacked on parched peanuts and sweet potatoes at night while we watched TV. I have been so healthy and happy. I was fortunate to be able to have 40 acres and a very similar situation for our kids.
@@angelacollier9256The natural way to eat. It is amazing! Delicious, healthy and fun! I still live in the country. I've been doing ancestry work and learning about a farmer in my family, same area I grew up, my great grandmother's grandfather, growing rice, oats, sweet potatoes and dry corn. Hogs, chickens, fish, milk cow, butter, deer....A horse and a mule. 1870! My mother lived the same abundance born 1931. And I grew up that way born 1960.
Regardless of how you feel about his lifestyle and diet, you can’t deny liverking of his passion. And anyone who’s so enthusiastic about helping people pursue what you believe to be a better cause, is admirable (within reason obv) loved every minute of this video
helping people? He conning people out of their money to buying into his B.S. He is a fraud. Making money of his lies and others delusions. Sure he is so passionate- an act. He has not ethical or moral compass
Aye, he's passionate alright - passionate about taking naive, desperate fools money for a living. If the guy is so admirable, why does he lie about being natural, when it's obvious he isn't? He's an unethical slime ball.
FABULOUS interview! I would love for him to talk about what his wife does...what kind of workouts, and what does she eat on a daily basis. You both are such great role models, as many are getting back to basics. At 68, growing up on my grandparents farm in MD, this is just what we did. Ate well, worked and played hard. Built forts in the woods, ran barefoot, climbed trees, picnics in the pasture, ice skating on the pond in the winter...and sled riding on those hills. I wouldn't have wanted to grow up in any other time period.😊
MORE LIVER KING! PLEASE! My favorite episode EVER. I added organs to my diet a couple days ago after seeing it and I have less anxiety more energy and lines I’ve had under my eyes for like a year now are gone. I’m so over the moon thankful and ready to implement the other nine ancestral tenants to see how much better I can feel 🙏💪💯 thank you guys for introducing me to this my life has changed in 3 days it’s insane.
I’ve been following Liverking for almost a year now and highly look up to him. he has helped inspire me to live healthier and lift heavy. I’m stronger than I’ve ever thought were possible. Thanks for having him on!
#LiverKing thanks for the Inspiration 1. Eat plenty of protein at every meal 1A.Put cell phone down 2. Drink more water 3. Do a high intensity workout 4. Lift heavy things 5. Stand up more 6. Drink green tea or oolong tea 7. Eat spicy foods 8. Get a good night’s sleep 9. Drink coffee 10. Eat Liver
The predominance of his physique is attributed to anabolic steroids, HGH/IGF…eating liver or living by any ancestral tenants is not going to produce this physique…he is a bodybuilder with an angle. The fact that this channel is promoting him is an absolute shame and disgrace.
I've been wating for this, now that Liver King is doing interviews and podcasts, it's actually helping him as he does get a lot of stick at the moment. Great interview.
I really appreciate the content in this video but I ALSO really appreciate the format of this video. Most time you see two people chatting on video, you have the awkward lag and interruption moments. Good idea to give each other blocks of content, clean back and forth, eliminating lag issues. Also, I liked that BTS shot of your AV setup. Very cool.
I think he has some valuable points here, and we definitely don’t eat enough grass fed organ meats as a society, however, you cannot pretend he is not juicing.
@@kambazoo I only care because he denies it, and says his aesthetics are 100% attributed to his lifestyle that he markets to others. I care about transparency.
@@cawdpoints Integrity goes along way when you’ve achieved this much notoriety. I agree, he is helping lead the skewed perception on aesthetics, thus contrarily contributing to developing issue of dysmorphia. As for the grass fed organs, there is not definitive way to know the actual bioavailability. Society has grown exponentially, swifter methods to deliver meat was imminent, therefore the acquisition of meat has accommodated steadfastly. Consumption of food shouldn’t be as convoluted as these two people convey. Energy intake is equivalent to energy expenditure. Simple.
But does it matter? I mean are they promoting that if we want to look like them naturally, then all we need to do is follow their advice? The message throughout this video doesn’t tell me that. I don’t agree with hiding steroid usage either, but I don’t think it detracts from the message.
Thomas, I enjoyed this video. What I like is the real sense of admiration you guys have for each other and respect. Further, it was nice to see you loosen up on the nerd stuff a bit and see the “ Liver King get a bit more nerdy. He flip/flop was very fun to watch! Two dudes out there crushing it and sending good Bro vibes to each other is great stuff!
Great interview Thomas! Would be amazing if you ever get a chance to interview Dr. Robert Lustig and go into detail about metabolic health. Would be amazing to learn about where your approach and message about nutrition overlap much like in this interview. Best of luck and we’re looking forward to seeing your channel continue to grow!
this is what sets the standard for credible fitness/health wellness influencers: actually stepping into the light talking about the information they are trying to bring forward and having a discussion with other likeminded people. people who cant get over themselves to do this(not gonna mention any big names), are just as bad as the misinformers in my opinion.
@@nikkiz6664 why? Because he's on "roids"? Explain what part of his message is anything but positive? His product is free. It's on his website. He doesn't force his products down your throat. He offers them as alternatives, but the core product, his very brand message, is available for you to follow at no financial benefit to him. He walks the talk. People call him a con artist. Prove it. Him doing steroids is irrelevant. Go take steroids. You won't look like him with those alone.
Friday evening we’ll spent watching this - great to see 2 people geeking out with passion for what they do. When knowledge meets power this is what you get. Best video I’ve watch in an age. Btw I love liver! Albeit cooked but I great and cheap AF so go get some
He’s right about starting small when it comes to health the moment you start putting an effort into one area and start to see/feel the benefits it starts to snowball into the rest of your life weather it be spiritual, physical, or mental you just start to actually CARE about your life
Macadamia is from Eastern Australia, a subtropical tree. The shell is extremely hard to crack. Not a snack. Can't imagine why anyone thought that eggs need separating, unless making meringue. So, why would I need meringue?
Liver consumption is critical if you are fasting & on low carb diet 👍 be carful with the large amount of caffeine intakes, because it will hinders iron absorption
@@leotheindigomergoddess9304 Or avoid it altogether, and instead Get Grass-Fed Meat Delivered to Your Doorstep !! - as recommended by The Liver King !!!! and maybe some sustainable nutritionally enhanced high protein KETO food for the The Family Dog!!
Even if he does do steroids, he should own it. He sells his idea very well, he's also very polite and that alone can take him far. Of course people would take it less serious at first but primals will follow afterwards and listen later.
I don't think he ever denied it, just talks around it. He probably doesn't want to come out and say it directly because it might mess with his business. But guys like Mark Sisson admit he's on TRT and made a successful supplement business.
I grew up hunting because we were poor. Once a month my cousins and uncles would start what was called The run and it would consist of running to the mountains and then in the mountains until finding tracks of whatever it was they were going to hunt boar or deer or whatever. Then the real running began and you would press that herd until one of them failed. On their backs they would carry the animal which would be an average of 300 lb all the way back home. So in a matter of a day about 30 to 50 miles had been run. One home we dressed it and we'd eat the heart and liver and tongue and all the meat off the face the guts nothing went to waste. No one who hunts with just a knife and a hunting ax or just as you get older maybe a bow and arrow or if you're just very out of shape maybe a gun looks like either one of these two guys, well maybe the so called hunters who spray urine and sit in trees. I think a lot of the things they are talking about warrants incorporating into our lives but what they're not talking about is that the steroids helps define their muscles. You don't get the muscles needed for hunting and the mobility and the stamina with huge muscles like what they are carrying. Look at any of the hunting tribes of Africa or Latin America, they do not look bulky because when you're running 30 to 50 miles to hunt you can't afford to have bulky muscles. You have densely packed quick twitch muscle fibers like what soccer players, boxers and wrestlers have. These are the kind of muscles that allow you to carry two, three and maybe four times your weight. So my father who may have weighed 160 could carry a 300 to 400 lb deer for three to five miles before having to switch off to my uncle who weighed 180 and he would easily run 10 mi with the deer on his back. None of these hunters in our family look like either one of these two guys. Look up the hunters of Africa and Latin America who hunt wide open areas like North America, look a their appearance. That's what you look like when you really hunt and when you're not using steroids for looks.
Fully agree with what you said, you put that a lot nicer than I did above. To be fair from what I saw I don't think Thomas was trying to pretend he was a warrior.
@@x_VALTIEL_x the liver king says he lives in the old ways. There were steroids and I don't know any people who live in the primal ways uses steroids or own a private jet. He's a body builder. That's all. He's had too much fat to compete so he sells this version
The idea that LK isn’t asking you to change overnight, but to change small bits at a time and see how things progress, that changes a lot for me. A lot of what he does makes perfect sense knowing it was a step by step process.
Damn I felt the pain listening to Thomas and probably why I could never follow his over embellished content .Moral of the story keep perspectives simple and real . In other words science has failed miserably in the health sector . Great and much needed message from the Liver King for today’s population .
I ate about six ounces of liver a few times a week along with eggs, goat fetta, salmon, steak, lamb and some carrots. All are high to extremely high in Vitamin A to the point of causing a toxic load to my system. My B12 was 731 pmol/L, so that is was also flagged as abnormally high as well. Do your lab work and be moderate on the liver, it can easily be overdone if you listen to bad advise.
@@scottysatpanalysis I'm too lean, single digit, I'm at the point where my skin is paper thin. I was mountain biking and tried to duck under some vegetation on a fast downhill section when a large blackberry vine wrapped across my neck and almost sliced my jugular artery wide open. The fat pads on the heels of my feet, sitting bones, elbows... are long gone. Winter weather is not so fun anymore and I have always loved the high alpine in the mountains. I think bears have the right idea to fatten up for the winter.
Notice the Liver King is so in tune with his carb/fat/protein that he's not drinking copious amounts of water after every speaking turn. He also does a great job of nose breathing for the most part not taking big mouth breaths in after talking...
his diet is a good explanation for his high levels testosterone, and roids is all about bringing up testosterone, so he is actually admitting to juicing ,just not chemically
I’m on the Brooklyn side brothers Maybe I’ll be here on your next visit I’ll tag along with any luck Two great points of view Much of it converges Gratitude
Interesting interview. Is it for me? Absolutely not. But I give all the respect to the liver king. He’s excited and passionate and living a healthy great life
Thank You for this interview Thomas. Thank You for dropping knowledge about hormone D (how synthetic hormone d impedes retinol vitamin a). Looking forward to seeing you train barbarian with Liver King.
I've been listening for 7 minutes and I've already resolved to switch off my WiFi at night - its even in my bedroom!! And I'm going to my local butchers to ask for some liver. I've never eaten it before but I want to feel better so I'll give it a try! So inspirational! ❤
Wiring all the devices in my home, keeping my phone in a faraday bag and sleeping in an emf canopy cured what I thought was long haul covid. I suffered from severe pain/inflammation in the heart and brain for almost 2 years plus anxiety and depression
As a Tip, there are many ways to consume liver. I keep it frozen, cut about a 1 oz chunk off, then finely dice it, then consume it raw but placing on my tongue and chasing with water like pills, (never once got sick doing that), OR, mix the diced liver into ground meat while making burgers or any other ground meat. You don't notice it at all. You can also marinated it in water and lemon juice, water and ACV, or milk for an hour or two to reduce any strong flavors.
I'm not a fan of liver but I do eat it only in 1 way and it tastes great. Try and bake it in the oven with double cream, tomato tin and dryed onion. It tastes fenomenal... First, you cover it in the dry onion, then you put the rest of the ingredients and bake around 45 minutes 😉
For anyone who really wants to enjoy liver: Buy calf liver. Soak it in milk for 30 mins. Completely coat your liver in a seasoned/salted flour of your choice. Pan fry (in bacon grease preferably) for 4-5 minutes on each side. Add white onion in the pan to taste. Enjoy your liver & onions (and bacon).
good interview tom your a top notch dude. i like liverkings message and supplements he is just so caught up in his role we have no idea who this guy really is. your the real star of this interview your videos are top of the line brother. liverking claims hes natural i just wanna see some older pics of this guy because dishonesty is lammmeeeee
I like the principle's of Liver Kings message! I don't know why he gets so much crap at times despite his huge following. And Thomas you got some freaky biceps for a natty guy that is so lean!
Great interview, LK is much more intelligent than people might give him credit for based on a first impression. Interesting that he has to explain his fit look while fat, metabolically destroyed people do not have to explain the way they look.
I can’t not laugh when listening to liver king idk what is true and false about what he believes cause he is sticking to playing that character so strong
Very good interview!! I use those tactics of emphasizing my day with struggle so i take real world value from my modern tasks. Embrace that shit!!!💪💪 I gotta say though I'm surprised he didn't seem to like the idea of 7,000FT challenge. He avoided that one 😅😅😅 EMBRACE IT LK!!! Lets fckn goooooooooo!!!!! 💪😜💪
Thanks for this great videos of unique perspective. Very enjoyable. But to act on his pathway one must have no worries about Bills, daily expenditure of daily living, no 8 hours a day job and one must have Ranch 😂
The issue that haters forgets that Liver King isn't telling you to only eat liver (and they only focus on that) , its just one of the nine things he suggest that we do! I will never eat raw meat but after doing somethings that he suggested (Like working out, start having a plan for yourself, limit myself on social media (cell phones), talk to my parents/loved ones more, bonding) And after doing that for 2 months, my mood is better, I am feeling better, I feel stronger.
Say what you want but if you listen to the guy you can see why he's successful. There is alot of truth behind these words. I'm glad I gave this a chance instead of all the short out of context videos shitting on people. Inspired me to choose my difficult.
I agree king!!! When I first started I couldn't afford the container if protein, but I could afford desdicated liver. I got exactly what you said I felt like I had endless energy in the gym and my muscle grew like a weed. I can so relate to what your saying!!
Finally someone willing to listen to LK and hear what he has to say. TD does approach things from a science-based approach which makes this hit home more. I do feel he would call home out if he was spewing total B.S.
Really enjoyed this conversation. Much better than the one with Logan Paul. Just feel like LK was able to calmly talk through his perspectives and it was just enjoyable to listen through the convo. It’s cool to disagree on things but it’s also really good to see people just talk through things and find common ground.
When our ancestors found wild fruit sources they would have been climbing the trees or scavenging the bushes. The entire process of foraging and gathering, transporting the find back to their loved ones would have their bodies burning through those sugars while extracting the vitamins and polyphenols for a better result and a leaner body mass.
Liverboy is a flake, he’s all about getting rich off fools falling for his snake oil type approach and pulling weights around the outside of his house.
I’d never heard of this guy - was an interesting listen, thanks. I believe in the 9 tenets - although may disagree on the execution of them 😀 As a woman - it would be good to hear how his wife modifies the tenets
@@fransonferguson2979 yawn…..who cares? Steroids allow your physique ‘ceiling’ to be way higher, and can help you recover faster between workouts….how does that affect anything in this conversation? 😂😂😂
When my kids were little they wouldn't drink all their milk so in Hawaii the temperature is always 70 to 80 something so the next morning on the coffee table or where were they decided to leave the rest of their milk would turn into yogurt and I would eat it
Awesome video !!!! Both of you guys are awesome and inspirational !!! Liver king , fuck the nay sayers and their negativity , you are living proof that your way of living is working for you and I appreciate you helping others with your message. And I am looking forward to becoming a primal myself, to be the best healthiest father that I can be for my kids . Anyone got anything negative to say , continue with your negative thoughts it’s going to take you no where in life . Positivity goes a long way. Much love and peace . Hope all prospers .
I have not caught up of previous videos but I am surprised that there wasn’t a huge portion of this conversation dedicated to talking about the consumption of raw animal parts, drinking of blood, etc.
Just two questions for you, Mr. DeLauer: Do you take steroids (as Mr. Liver King obviously does)? Also: Do you think that they negate the benefits of "ancestral" living?
@@WilliamBTCWallace 🤣🤣🤣 Sounds like someone didn't actually READ my comment! All I did was ask the gentleman a question. But, since YOU brought the stupid subject up, I'll say this; as a (retired) Special Forces medic, I injected tes into a number of my 'roid using colleagues (they furnished their own poison; I just did the injection because they trusted my aseptic technique). I can assure you that most of them were smaller than Delauer in spite of being monsters in the gym. As far as my personal genetics go, I still do 100 pushups, 100 squats, 50 pullups (in sets of 10), and an hour-long hike with a 15kg (33 lbs) rucksack every morning. Next week I'll celebrate my 58th birthday by fasting for 5 days while running 20 miles a day, culminating in a half marathon here in Nice, France on 22 May. (God, how I hate rude people who don't actually read comments before replying with knee-jerk stupidity).
Great video/interview. One topic I was hoping to see get addressed relates to the ingestion of copious amounts of liver and fat soluble vitamin toxicity. How is this safe/doable? I don't really see anyone really touching on this and would love your two cents, Thomas. Thanks much!
The liver is the most nutritious piece of meat on an animal. He’s not eat copious amounts, he’s eating an optimal amount and could likely use more. When your body doesn’t need something, nutrient wise, you pass it, it doesn’t poison you. Think of taking shit multi vitamins.. you piss orange for hours after, getting rid of all of that garbage.
By now, he should have at least one follower of his so called training discipline that reached at least wat he has. So far I don't see any = he's on roids big time. But by saying this, he still does train hard an is very disciplined.
The way i see it. Us, humans, we are animals. We don't like thinking of ourselves as animals. And that's why most people feel uncertain of who they are.
While I certainly don't condone the use of steroids for cosmetic purposes, I stop short of judging others based on the direction they have chosen for THEIR lives. Does use of steroids, in any way, change the quality of information put forth to help others try to become a better version of themselves? I never heard any mention of "you should use HGH, steroids, or exonenous hormones to get a better looking you, and it will help you live longer and healthier". I did not hear anything like that during the whole interview. Nope, not once, because that was not the point of the interview. Because that would be harmful. I heard nothing harmful at all. Did you? You simply cannot deny that he has put in the work to get to where he is at in life. The amount of effort he puts forth in exercise alone is astounding. He has a pretty solid message to get across to people looking for advice to be a better version of themselves. The guy is a frickin savage, and I feel he makes some really valid points to why humans are so sick in modern society. Does his steroid use change the content of his words or the validity of his argument? In my opinion. No.
@@reevinriggin3570 Have you not seen all the grifters dropping like flies recently? This guy is dangerous. No caveman ever used chemicals and we shouldn't either.
The thing I've noticed is that people love to make accusations, not because there is actual truth behind it but to simply trivialize if not outright dismiss someone's positive message.
I need to know if he's on juice or not to take him seriously because when you take steroids you feel great and nobody really talks about that elephant in the room. I'll try some liver n see how it affects my workouts but I don't expect much.
In other interviews he revealed he does not juice. He’s just been lifting since like age 13 lol. He also considers it a compliment when people accuse him of juicing.
@@Ak_guy907 So we're supposed to take him at his word huh. I mean I guess it's possible...another thing to note is you keep alot of steroid gains like strengthening your tendons and ligaments. If he just came out and said he did them I wouldn't care or if he said I used to use them. I would almost rather have him prove it before I bought one of his books or something
From what I've seen the people that accused him of using steroids have an agenda to trivialize every aspect of what he does. For what it's worth there is a massive amount of resistance within the mainstream line of thought against doing anything along the lines of what he is recommending. Why? Because it threatens the status quo upon which our food industry, the healthcare industry, the pharmacical industry, among many other profitable industries are based upon.
@@TranslatedAssumption all he would have to do is show us a test showing he's clean and I wouldn't say $hit but if he doesn't then I'm srry ill never believe him. I like the idea of eating liver to be healthier though
@@killershootin6934 no he does not have to do anything, again this is not about the accusation of steroid usage it is about tearing down his message. Even if he provided proof that he did not use steroids the haters and doubters still refuse to believe it and would not go away they don't care about steroid usage.
This is the first time I've heard Liver King talk. I've only heard bad things about him. I'm about 5 minutes in and agree with everything he's saying. People are being haters.
This guy is brilliant, I love him .I wonder if he has ever eaten his liver fix for the day out of an animal while its still warm the native tribes of some countries do apparently its the best way to eat it when hunting, its the best part of the hunted animal, even the preditors eat the organs first before the meat.
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your both on roids lol
Question is it halal though? The meats 🍖?
Would like to know what steroids they both take.
Are you just gonna pretend he's not juicing?
Jesus is KING . You are a lost Wretched miserable Sinner . < Jesus saves .
Thomas, this was such a blast. Seriously… massive, massive thank you for having me on your channel and bringing me into your ecosystem. There are so many people on the fence when it comes to making these life changes… and it's because they just don't understand that there is a simple and elegant solution. Primals like you… who can explain and educate, like how the quality of life is not measured in the number of years lived, are how we can bring our people back to strength, health, and happiness. Again, so grateful that we were able to collaborate and make this happen. Keep dominating… and let's continue to do some goddam good in this world -LK out!
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U r awesome man.fixing humanity
LK, you should do more long format content. I have watched you on Tick Tok in short form and you are a beast however to listen to you speak so intelligently about the ancestral lifestyle has educated me and increased the respect I already had for you. Rock on brother
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Lets get after it Primals !
Can we all take a moment to appreciate how these two didn’t interrupt each other while the other was speaking! So refreshing. Good convo here fellas
perfectly said
I grew up on a hundred acre farm in rural SC. Through the swamp my uncle had a few hundred acres where my cousins lived. During the summer we ran around outside in the sunshine all day. Our properties were full of wild plums, berries pecans and weeds like sorrel. In the evening we ate meat, from the farm, and fish that momma caught and fresh veggies that she grew, especially greens and fresh beans and peas. We snacked on parched peanuts and sweet potatoes at night while we watched TV. I have been so healthy and happy. I was fortunate to be able to have 40 acres and a very similar situation for our kids.
That's dope great story thank you!
Sounds amazing a
@@angelacollier9256The natural way to eat. It is amazing! Delicious, healthy and fun!
I still live in the country. I've been doing ancestry work and learning about a farmer in my family, same area I grew up, my great grandmother's grandfather, growing rice, oats, sweet potatoes and dry corn. Hogs, chickens, fish, milk cow, butter, deer....A horse and a mule. 1870! My mother lived the same abundance born 1931. And I grew up that way born 1960.
That’s living !
Count your blessing I’m born and bred in London uk and that alone sets your health back 😂👌🙏
Regardless of how you feel about his lifestyle and diet, you can’t deny liverking of his passion. And anyone who’s so enthusiastic about helping people pursue what you believe to be a better cause, is admirable (within reason obv) loved every minute of this video
helping people? He conning people out of their money to buying into his B.S. He is a fraud. Making money of his lies and others delusions. Sure he is so passionate- an act. He has not ethical or moral compass
@@nikkiz6664 riiiiight.. but its ok for big sugar and big pharma to make billions selling shit that literally kills people?
Aye, he's passionate alright - passionate about taking naive, desperate fools money for a living.
If the guy is so admirable, why does he lie about being natural, when it's obvious he isn't? He's an unethical slime ball.
His diet ? I think he is totally full off BS , dudes on steroids drugs and protein and probably much more ,
And sales, Great salesman dont forget.
FABULOUS interview! I would love for him to talk about what his wife does...what kind of workouts, and what does she eat on a daily basis. You both are such great role models, as many are getting back to basics. At 68, growing up on my grandparents farm in MD, this is just what we did. Ate well, worked and played hard. Built forts in the woods, ran barefoot, climbed trees, picnics in the pasture, ice skating on the pond in the winter...and sled riding on those hills. I wouldn't have wanted to grow up in any other time period.😊
Right on, as a kid we played hard doing the things you said.
MORE LIVER KING! PLEASE! My favorite episode EVER. I added organs to my diet a couple days ago after seeing it and I have less anxiety more energy and lines I’ve had under my eyes for like a year now are gone. I’m so over the moon thankful and ready to implement the other nine ancestral tenants to see how much better I can feel 🙏💪💯 thank you guys for introducing me to this my life has changed in 3 days it’s insane.
Yo welcome to the camp. Life has a whole different feel when you eat raw liver and testicles.
I started eating organ meat too.
Raw or cooked?
I’ve been following Liverking for almost a year now and highly look up to him. he has helped inspire me to live healthier and lift heavy. I’m stronger than I’ve ever thought were possible. Thanks for having him on!
hope you do not hope to look like him, cuz he is on the ”gear”
@@diamondmeeple microinjections lol its no point of doing that this guy is juicyed up big time
@@WilliamET94 I believe Thomas is doing microinjections... so he looks more "natural".
So what if he is or isn’t? It’s not as if he’s competing in athletics in a drug tested competition
@@calebberaud9747 its a fraud to be a fake natty and selling stuff etc and to make people think its achievable to look like him natty
#LiverKing thanks for the Inspiration
1. Eat plenty of protein at every meal
1A.Put cell phone down
2. Drink more water
3. Do a high intensity workout
4. Lift heavy things
5. Stand up more
6. Drink green tea or oolong tea
7. Eat spicy foods
8. Get a good night’s sleep
9. Drink coffee
10. Eat Liver
High fat not protein
The predominance of his physique is attributed to anabolic steroids, HGH/IGF…eating liver or living by any ancestral tenants is not going to produce this physique…he is a bodybuilder with an angle. The fact that this channel is promoting him is an absolute shame and disgrace.
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Yup, you can practically eat anything and get big muscles while artificially enhanced
Agree. Plus high levels of vitamin A are present in liver - though I guess taking all the steroids will be more dangerous.
I've been wating for this, now that Liver King is doing interviews and podcasts, it's actually helping him as he does get a lot of stick at the moment. Great interview.
Stick for lying about being natural, you mean??
I really appreciate the content in this video but I ALSO really appreciate the format of this video. Most time you see two people chatting on video, you have the awkward lag and interruption moments. Good idea to give each other blocks of content, clean back and forth, eliminating lag issues. Also, I liked that BTS shot of your AV setup. Very cool.
I think he has some valuable points here, and we definitely don’t eat enough grass fed organ meats as a society, however, you cannot pretend he is not juicing.
both of them are ..... but its not the point, like who cares
@@kambazoo I only care because he denies it, and says his aesthetics are 100% attributed to his lifestyle that he markets to others. I care about transparency.
@@cawdpoints Integrity goes along way when you’ve achieved this much notoriety. I agree, he is helping lead the skewed perception on aesthetics, thus contrarily contributing to developing issue of dysmorphia. As for the grass fed organs, there is not definitive way to know the actual bioavailability. Society has grown exponentially, swifter methods to deliver meat was imminent, therefore the acquisition of meat has accommodated steadfastly. Consumption of food shouldn’t be as convoluted as these two people convey. Energy intake is equivalent to energy expenditure. Simple.
But he is on roids
But does it matter? I mean are they promoting that if we want to look like them naturally, then all we need to do is follow their advice? The message throughout this video doesn’t tell me that. I don’t agree with hiding steroid usage either, but I don’t think it detracts from the message.
Exciting conversation as always. This was my first time hearing him talk. He is smart and speaks really well. Super interesting content 👍🏻
check him out on instagram, he posts his knowledge daily.
Thomas, I enjoyed this video. What I like is the real sense of admiration you guys have for each other and respect. Further, it was nice to see you loosen up on the nerd stuff a bit and see the “ Liver King get a bit more nerdy. He flip/flop was very fun to watch!
Two dudes out there crushing it and sending good Bro vibes to each other is great stuff!
Great interview Thomas! Would be amazing if you ever get a chance to interview Dr. Robert Lustig and go into detail about metabolic health. Would be amazing to learn about where your approach and message about nutrition overlap much like in this interview. Best of luck and we’re looking forward to seeing your channel continue to grow!
this is what sets the standard for credible fitness/health wellness influencers: actually stepping into the light talking about the information they are trying to bring forward and having a discussion with other likeminded people.
people who cant get over themselves to do this(not gonna mention any big names), are just as bad as the misinformers in my opinion.
But he is on roids
@@fransonferguson2979 A LOT of roids
he is a fraud with no ethical or moral compass.
How does roids negate his message. U ppl are just lazy and depressed so u need to find ways to complain and make excuse
@@nikkiz6664 why? Because he's on "roids"?
Explain what part of his message is anything but positive?
His product is free. It's on his website. He doesn't force his products down your throat. He offers them as alternatives, but the core product, his very brand message, is available for you to follow at no financial benefit to him.
He walks the talk.
People call him a con artist. Prove it. Him doing steroids is irrelevant. Go take steroids. You won't look like him with those alone.
He forgot to list the tenth ancestral tenet.
#10-Take steroids
Friday evening we’ll spent watching this - great to see 2 people geeking out with passion for what they do. When knowledge meets power this is what you get. Best video I’ve watch in an age. Btw I love liver! Albeit cooked but I great and cheap AF so go get some
He’s right about starting small when it comes to health the moment you start putting an effort into one area and start to see/feel the benefits it starts to snowball into the rest of your life weather it be spiritual, physical, or mental you just start to actually CARE about your life
It’s your channel Thomas, but if you’re gonna have the liver King for an interview, interview him. You interviewed yourself and let him comment on it.
Yeah I had to turn it off
Born of Osiris in the houseeee
Macadamia is from Eastern Australia, a subtropical tree. The shell is extremely hard to crack. Not a snack. Can't imagine why anyone thought that eggs need separating, unless making meringue. So, why would I need meringue?
Liver King should be put in charge of our National Fitness Program, do his workout or you don't eat!
I'm suprised this video has not got more views and comments???
Awesome video by the way as I'm a big fan of you both!
Liver consumption is critical if you are fasting & on low carb diet 👍 be carful with the large amount of caffeine intakes, because it will hinders iron absorption
Looking forward to seeing you guys doing the barbarian workout. Great show💪👏
I learned so much from this pod. I love liver king. And this channel has a new sub. Let's keep getting better
I always make it a point to avoid ordering liver or or other organ meat while dining in hospital cafeterias.
Why
@@mgstrip Most of the time people freak out
You can also take liver in a capsule
@@mgstrip Call it a "questionable sourcing problem."
@@leotheindigomergoddess9304 Or avoid it altogether, and instead Get Grass-Fed Meat Delivered to Your Doorstep !! - as recommended by The Liver King !!!! and maybe some sustainable nutritionally enhanced high protein KETO food for the The Family Dog!!
The bearded guy looks like the cowardly lion on wizard of Oz.
EMOTIONAL DAMAGE!!!!
Hahahahaha now I can’t unsee it! 😂
Oh wow. Great analogy!
Nobody gets that rip and huge naturally! Not by eating what he is telling us that's for sure!
@@sepetisionelatu5539 he knows that you guys are kids. He knows kids wont eat the liver. He wants you to eat the liver.
Even if he does do steroids, he should own it. He sells his idea very well, he's also very polite and that alone can take him far. Of course people would take it less serious at first but primals will follow afterwards and listen later.
I don't think he ever denied it, just talks around it. He probably doesn't want to come out and say it directly because it might mess with his business. But guys like Mark Sisson admit he's on TRT and made a successful supplement business.
I believe Thomas is taking microinjections of testosteron. They do it every third day.
Never thought I’d see Thomas wearing a shirt while his guest was shirtless
I grew up hunting because we were poor. Once a month my cousins and uncles would start what was called The run and it would consist of running to the mountains and then in the mountains until finding tracks of whatever it was they were going to hunt boar or deer or whatever. Then the real running began and you would press that herd until one of them failed. On their backs they would carry the animal which would be an average of 300 lb all the way back home. So in a matter of a day about 30 to 50 miles had been run. One home we dressed it and we'd eat the heart and liver and tongue and all the meat off the face the guts nothing went to waste. No one who hunts with just a knife and a hunting ax or just as you get older maybe a bow and arrow or if you're just very out of shape maybe a gun looks like either one of these two guys, well maybe the so called hunters who spray urine and sit in trees. I think a lot of the things they are talking about warrants incorporating into our lives but what they're not talking about is that the steroids helps define their muscles. You don't get the muscles needed for hunting and the mobility and the stamina with huge muscles like what they are carrying. Look at any of the hunting tribes of Africa or Latin America, they do not look bulky because when you're running 30 to 50 miles to hunt you can't afford to have bulky muscles. You have densely packed quick twitch muscle fibers like what soccer players, boxers and wrestlers have. These are the kind of muscles that allow you to carry two, three and maybe four times your weight. So my father who may have weighed 160 could carry a 300 to 400 lb deer for three to five miles before having to switch off to my uncle who weighed 180 and he would easily run 10 mi with the deer on his back. None of these hunters in our family look like either one of these two guys. Look up the hunters of Africa and Latin America who hunt wide open areas like North America, look a their appearance. That's what you look like when you really hunt and when you're not using steroids for looks.
Fully agree with what you said, you put that a lot nicer than I did above.
To be fair from what I saw I don't think Thomas was trying to pretend he was a warrior.
@@daveb1058 yes, i think you are correct
Did any of these two ever claim that they're trying to archive a hunter/gatherer physique? They're *bodybuilders* first and health enthusiasts second.
Thankssss..I agree with you 💯 👍 👌
@@x_VALTIEL_x the liver king says he lives in the old ways. There were steroids and I don't know any people who live in the primal ways uses steroids or own a private jet. He's a body builder. That's all. He's had too much fat to compete so he sells this version
I think my liver might be the only bodypart that's done more work than his
Beautiful, never knew of the Liver King before but im so glad i do now!
The idea that LK isn’t asking you to change overnight, but to change small bits at a time and see how things progress, that changes a lot for me. A lot of what he does makes perfect sense knowing it was a step by step process.
Damn I felt the pain listening to Thomas and probably why I could never follow his over embellished content .Moral of the story keep perspectives simple and real . In other words science has failed miserably in the health sector . Great and much needed message from the Liver King for today’s population .
I love this kind of videos so much! Keep them coming please!
Something’s up with the algorithm because I’ve been keen to watch this and had to search it out days after it came out.
"Interval training your life". I like that analogy.
This was stellar, Thomas! Thank you!
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Fantastic! Great interview! He make you wanna start with Liver! Lol You guys are both awesome and inspiring.... Thank You.
Wow, so much truth & facts here guys! NICE 💪🙌
LiverKing & LiverQueen need to be on tv 📺
i want you to bring on Carnivore MD. He’s the only person i know that is into the science like you.
Awesome guys! Absolutely great topics! Respect both of you 💪🙌
I love hearing the science behind things and I love to hear about how my body works with foods and exercise, so thanks for the research and info,
I train very hard fasted . I’ve trained fasted for 4 years now . I did not loose muscle . I actually am still strong . The body will adapt
lol fasted 38 days. Lost zeros muscle mass.
I ate about six ounces of liver a few times a week along with eggs, goat fetta, salmon, steak, lamb and some carrots. All are high to extremely high in Vitamin A to the point of causing a toxic load to my system. My B12 was 731 pmol/L, so that is was also flagged as abnormally high as well. Do your lab work and be moderate on the liver, it can easily be overdone if you listen to bad advise.
Everything you eating over it cause problem , should everything balanced
You and if you eat tons of carbs you get fat. That’s definitely worse from my experience
@@scottysatpanalysis I'm too lean, single digit, I'm at the point where my skin is paper thin. I was mountain biking and tried to duck under some vegetation on a fast downhill section when a large blackberry vine wrapped across my neck and almost sliced my jugular artery wide open. The fat pads on the heels of my feet, sitting bones, elbows... are long gone. Winter weather is not so fun anymore and I have always loved the high alpine in the mountains. I think bears have the right idea to fatten up for the winter.
@@raddestraven if youre at that point its not because of the liver lmaoo
High B12 is not Toxic.....
GREAT SHOW! THANK YOU!
The perfect platform for liver king could use to share his journey. Thank you!!
Notice the Liver King is so in tune with his carb/fat/protein that he's not drinking copious amounts of water after every speaking turn. He also does a great job of nose breathing for the most part not taking big mouth breaths in after talking...
He takes juice
Proof?
his diet is a good explanation for his high levels testosterone, and roids is all about bringing up testosterone, so he is actually admitting to juicing ,just not chemically
I’m on the Brooklyn side brothers
Maybe I’ll be here on your next visit
I’ll tag along with any luck
Two great points of view
Much of it converges
Gratitude
Ah, the liver king knows... Very nice. Preach it. Life is a fight. Every part of it. If you don't know you're in a fight then it's kicking your ass
Interesting interview. Is it for me? Absolutely not. But I give all the respect to the liver king. He’s excited and passionate and living a healthy great life
Love your statement that it is cheaper to eat non processed nutrition dense food than processed food.
Good looking out on the information on sleep and artificial vitamin D and how it affects vitamin A. Also, the whole interview was a a good listen
What part of the interview do they discuss that?
@@TiMalice2009 47:00.
Thank You for this interview Thomas. Thank You for dropping knowledge about hormone D (how synthetic hormone d impedes retinol vitamin a). Looking forward to seeing you train barbarian with Liver King.
I've been listening for 7 minutes and I've already resolved to switch off my WiFi at night - its even in my bedroom!! And I'm going to my local butchers to ask for some liver. I've never eaten it before but I want to feel better so I'll give it a try! So inspirational! ❤
good luck with the liver.... lol
Wiring all the devices in my home, keeping my phone in a faraday bag and sleeping in an emf canopy cured what I thought was long haul covid. I suffered from severe pain/inflammation in the heart and brain for almost 2 years plus anxiety and depression
As a Tip, there are many ways to consume liver. I keep it frozen, cut about a 1 oz chunk off, then finely dice it, then consume it raw but placing on my tongue and chasing with water like pills, (never once got sick doing that), OR, mix the diced liver into ground meat while making burgers or any other ground meat. You don't notice it at all. You can also marinated it in water and lemon juice, water and ACV, or milk for an hour or two to reduce any strong flavors.
I'm not a fan of liver but I do eat it only in 1 way and it tastes great. Try and bake it in the oven with double cream, tomato tin and dryed onion. It tastes fenomenal...
First, you cover it in the dry onion, then you put the rest of the ingredients and bake around 45 minutes 😉
For anyone who really wants to enjoy liver:
Buy calf liver. Soak it in milk for 30 mins. Completely coat your liver in a seasoned/salted flour of your choice. Pan fry (in bacon grease preferably) for 4-5 minutes on each side. Add white onion in the pan to taste. Enjoy your liver & onions (and bacon).
good interview tom your a top notch dude. i like liverkings message and supplements he is just so caught up in his role we have no idea who this guy really is. your the real star of this interview your videos are top of the line brother. liverking claims hes natural i just wanna see some older pics of this guy because dishonesty is lammmeeeee
He is not natural. That's for sure.
Let's just pretend you're both natural
I like the principle's of Liver Kings message! I don't know why he gets so much crap at times despite his huge following. And Thomas you got some freaky biceps for a natty guy that is so lean!
Great interview, LK is much more intelligent than people might give him credit for based on a first impression. Interesting that he has to explain his fit look while fat, metabolically destroyed people do not have to explain the way they look.
The liver kings chest is epic 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
I started with the liver and ended up with chronic vit A toxicity. Now 3 years on low vit A diet and feeling much better..
you probably ate too much liver you need to be careful
I can’t not laugh when listening to liver king idk what is true and false about what he believes cause he is sticking to playing that character so strong
This is great man!!! and good info great way to start thinking of the things that we got used too and take for granted
Very good interview!!
I use those tactics of emphasizing my day with struggle so i take real world value from my modern tasks. Embrace that shit!!!💪💪
I gotta say though I'm surprised he didn't seem to like the idea of 7,000FT challenge. He avoided that one 😅😅😅 EMBRACE IT LK!!! Lets fckn goooooooooo!!!!!
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Thanks for this great videos of unique perspective. Very enjoyable. But to act on his pathway one must have no worries about Bills, daily expenditure of daily living, no 8 hours a day job and one must have Ranch 😂
No you don’t have to have all that most people don’t start off with all those things they grind and work hard to get to that point
The issue that haters forgets that Liver King isn't telling you to only eat liver (and they only focus on that) , its just one of the nine things he suggest that we do! I will never eat raw meat but after doing somethings that he suggested (Like working out, start having a plan for yourself, limit myself on social media (cell phones), talk to my parents/loved ones more, bonding)
And after doing that for 2 months, my mood is better, I am feeling better, I feel stronger.
Say what you want but if you listen to the guy you can see why he's successful. There is alot of truth behind these words. I'm glad I gave this a chance instead of all the short out of context videos shitting on people. Inspired me to choose my difficult.
My favorite podcasts ever have liver king on them. Already added organs and got rid of my mattress for a thin pad
Indeed this guy is on point.
I agree king!!! When I first started I couldn't afford the container if protein, but I could afford desdicated liver. I got exactly what you said I felt like I had endless energy in the gym and my muscle grew like a weed. I can so relate to what your saying!!
Finally someone willing to listen to LK and hear what he has to say.
TD does approach things from a science-based approach which makes this hit home more. I do feel he would call home out if he was spewing total B.S.
It turns out this guy is a complete fraud and liar. Thomas what are your thoughts on that? More Plates more Dates has a pretty crazy video on it.
Great interview here! Going to do a barbarian workout!
Really enjoyed this conversation. Much better than the one with Logan Paul. Just feel like LK was able to calmly talk through his perspectives and it was just enjoyable to listen through the convo. It’s cool to disagree on things but it’s also really good to see people just talk through things and find common ground.
When our ancestors found wild fruit sources they would have been climbing the trees or scavenging the bushes. The entire process of foraging and gathering, transporting the find back to their loved ones would have their bodies burning through those sugars while extracting the vitamins and polyphenols for a better result and a leaner body mass.
Liverboy is a flake, he’s all about getting rich off fools falling for his snake oil type approach and pulling weights around the outside of his house.
Thomas is killin it, with the adds.
I’d never heard of this guy - was an interesting listen, thanks. I believe in the 9 tenets - although may disagree on the execution of them 😀 As a woman - it would be good to hear how his wife modifies the tenets
Ask him how he shoots his roids
@@fransonferguson2979 yawn…..who cares? Steroids allow your physique ‘ceiling’ to be way higher, and can help you recover faster between workouts….how does that affect anything in this conversation? 😂😂😂
When my kids were little they wouldn't drink all their milk so in Hawaii the temperature is always 70 to 80 something so the next morning on the coffee table or where were they decided to leave the rest of their milk would turn into yogurt and I would eat it
Kidney, Heart and Testicle King next.
Are you a testical king ? LOL
Awesome video !!!! Both of you guys are awesome and inspirational !!! Liver king , fuck the nay sayers and their negativity , you are living proof that your way of living is working for you and I appreciate you helping others with your message. And I am looking forward to becoming a primal myself, to be the best healthiest father that I can be for my kids . Anyone got anything negative to say , continue with your negative thoughts it’s going to take you no where in life . Positivity goes a long way. Much love and peace . Hope all prospers .
I have not caught up of previous videos but I am surprised that there wasn’t a huge portion of this conversation dedicated to talking about the consumption of raw animal parts, drinking of blood, etc.
Frankies free range meat 10x better than butcher box
Just two questions for you, Mr. DeLauer: Do you take steroids (as Mr. Liver King obviously does)? Also: Do you think that they negate the benefits of "ancestral" living?
Do you have proof or just accusations?
@@TranslatedAssumption 🤣🤣🤣 Good one!
Thomas isn’t even that big so if someone is accusing him of steroids then you must have really sad genetics in the gym. LOL
@@WilliamBTCWallace 🤣🤣🤣 Sounds like someone didn't actually READ my comment! All I did was ask the gentleman a question.
But, since YOU brought the stupid subject up, I'll say this; as a (retired) Special Forces medic, I injected tes into a number of my 'roid using colleagues (they furnished their own poison; I just did the injection because they trusted my aseptic technique). I can assure you that most of them were smaller than Delauer in spite of being monsters in the gym.
As far as my personal genetics go, I still do 100 pushups, 100 squats, 50 pullups (in sets of 10), and an hour-long hike with a 15kg (33 lbs) rucksack every morning. Next week I'll celebrate my 58th birthday by fasting for 5 days while running 20 miles a day, culminating in a half marathon here in Nice, France on 22 May.
(God, how I hate rude people who don't actually read comments before replying with knee-jerk stupidity).
The liver guy does roids for sure and maybe growth hormone too. I believe Thomas is doing microinjections of testosteron each third day.
Great video/interview. One topic I was hoping to see get addressed relates to the ingestion of copious amounts of liver and fat soluble vitamin toxicity. How is this safe/doable? I don't really see anyone really touching on this and would love your two cents, Thomas. Thanks much!
The liver is the most nutritious piece of meat on an animal. He’s not eat copious amounts, he’s eating an optimal amount and could likely use more. When your body doesn’t need something, nutrient wise, you pass it, it doesn’t poison you. Think of taking shit multi vitamins.. you piss orange for hours after, getting rid of all of that garbage.
It's only dangerous in very large amounts
Great interview with a great guest. Having purpose and passion makes you who you truly are.
By now, he should have at least one follower of his so called training discipline that reached at least wat he has. So far I don't see any = he's on roids big time. But by saying this, he still does train hard an is very disciplined.
The way i see it. Us, humans, we are animals. We don't like thinking of ourselves as animals. And that's why most people feel uncertain of who they are.
Interesting to have liverking on, although Thomas you aren’t really let him do much of the talking lol 😂
I'm old enough to remember people used to look down at steroid users not be influenced by them as health gurus.
While I certainly don't condone the use of steroids for cosmetic purposes, I stop short of judging others based on the direction they have chosen for THEIR lives. Does use of steroids, in any way, change the quality of information put forth to help others try to become a better version of themselves? I never heard any mention of "you should use HGH, steroids, or exonenous hormones to get a better looking you, and it will help you live longer and healthier". I did not hear anything like that during the whole interview. Nope, not once, because that was not the point of the interview. Because that would be harmful. I heard nothing harmful at all. Did you?
You simply cannot deny that he has put in the work to get to where he is at in life. The amount of effort he puts forth in exercise alone is astounding. He has a pretty solid message to get across to people looking for advice to be a better version of themselves. The guy is a frickin savage, and I feel he makes some really valid points to why humans are so sick in modern society. Does his steroid use change the content of his words or the validity of his argument? In my opinion. No.
@@reevinriggin3570 Have you not seen all the grifters dropping like flies recently? This guy is dangerous. No caveman ever used chemicals and we shouldn't either.
The thing I've noticed is that people love to make accusations, not because there is actual truth behind it but to simply trivialize if not outright dismiss someone's positive message.
21:05 completely off topic but makes me think of a chili peppers lyric. "Sustaining pain to set the mood, step out to be renewed."
I need to know if he's on juice or not to take him seriously because when you take steroids you feel great and nobody really talks about that elephant in the room. I'll try some liver n see how it affects my workouts but I don't expect much.
In other interviews he revealed he does not juice. He’s just been lifting since like age 13 lol. He also considers it a compliment when people accuse him of juicing.
@@Ak_guy907 So we're supposed to take him at his word huh. I mean I guess it's possible...another thing to note is you keep alot of steroid gains like strengthening your tendons and ligaments. If he just came out and said he did them I wouldn't care or if he said I used to use them. I would almost rather have him prove it before I bought one of his books or something
From what I've seen the people that accused him of using steroids have an agenda to trivialize every aspect of what he does. For what it's worth there is a massive amount of resistance within the mainstream line of thought against doing anything along the lines of what he is recommending. Why? Because it threatens the status quo upon which our food industry, the healthcare industry, the pharmacical industry, among many other profitable industries are based upon.
@@TranslatedAssumption all he would have to do is show us a test showing he's clean and I wouldn't say $hit but if he doesn't then I'm srry ill never believe him. I like the idea of eating liver to be healthier though
@@killershootin6934 no he does not have to do anything, again this is not about the accusation of steroid usage it is about tearing down his message. Even if he provided proof that he did not use steroids the haters and doubters still refuse to believe it and would not go away they don't care about steroid usage.
Love watching Liver King on Instagram but his UA-cam channel is great as well 💪🏽🇺🇸
This is the first time I've heard Liver King talk. I've only heard bad things about him. I'm about 5 minutes in and agree with everything he's saying. People are being haters.
This guy is brilliant, I love him .I wonder if he has ever eaten his liver fix for the day out of an animal while its still warm the native tribes of some countries do apparently its the best way to eat it when hunting, its the best part of the hunted animal, even the preditors eat the organs first before the meat.
Back to the Nature 🥇 Marco Filini
The 9 tenents:
1. Test
2. Tren
3. Dbol
4. Anavar
5. Primo
6. Anadrol
7. HGH
8. Tbol
9. Deca