I came all the way from listening on spotify to comment that. I was audibly saying "ohhh, OHHHH, OHHHHHHHHHHHHHH" as he was continuing the metaphor@@RamsesEsports
Huge shout out to this podcast. Over the last few months of competing I’ve gone from the local 0-2er to taking games off of ranked in region players and sets off of formally ranked in region players. I really believe this podcast has helped a lot and you all are to thank so thank you!
Thanks for another great discussion, guys. Sometimes, I can't visualize how a particular concept would look in a real match. It would be cool if there was a companion series (something like "Coaches Corner Applied") that paired snippets of the discussion with relevant VOD clips. Just a thought!
Love your guys stuff, you mentioned taking ideas from comments. Idk if this topic was covered but mentality of somebody playing a bad or not meta character (dr.Mario ganon etc) and what they are doing or what tools do they have to use to win or what does it take to be good with a character that’s not meta relevant.
This podcast offers such well thought out insights into this beautiful complicated game. You guys are GOATED coaches. Really loved Ramses point about conditioning being more broad of a concept then the word actually entails. This game offers players such an insane amount of freedom/options that its not really realistic to condition a single forced option out of our opponent. Ramses is right in that in reality, you're pushing them into a wide range of options that you have to be ready to respond to.
I've realised I do this as a Samus main, where I'll start charging deliberately to make my opponent recover high, then cover it for the kill. It only works if they've spent the game getting hit with my edgeguarding, otherwise they have the presence of mind to stall and wait for a safe way to recover low, which is harder to directly punish (though still obviously advantage for me).
Bumping up a content idea I shared a while ago: Each coach takes a newbie under their wing for some time and have their apprentices face-off in some sort of format. Have the coaches commentate, review, or interview them about the sets. The bragging rights would have dummy 😁
would you guys talk about miya game&watch at some point ? obviously characters mad simple but there’s plenty to talk ab with his methods and how he goes about advantage state and oppressing the people across from him. he truly makes people feel like they have to run away from g&w constantly and we haven’t really seen that at the top level from watch.
Would love an episode about Llod's guide to improvement, or how to structure learning something when just starting. Also would like a video on tech as a concept and when and how to learn and implement it.
Writing this after watching half the vid so mb if this was already talked about. But IMO i dont really see how conditioning = adaptation, when conditioning is something that happens all the time. You can condition opponents in states of the game (advantage, disadvantage, neutral) If i were to neutral get up from ledge 5 times in a row, my opponent has already begun to be conditioned to expect neutral get up. If i play exclusively reactively in neutral for 60-70% of a game they will be conditioned to expect that. Even a combo route could condition, lets say a combo that ends in a back air at ledge several times, but for the last time i do up air and catch them holding in because theyre expecting (have been conditioned to expect) a back air and they die off the top. My point being i dont know how adaptation ties in to this unless were talking about the opponent whos been conditioned and has to realize it and adapt to it.
Its uncanny how obsessive some of you are about some ones facial expression. Every single video there's multiple comments on it, who gives enough of a shit to constantly post about it?
Doors everywhere are hiding from Tony.
Today marks day 15,456 of Tony still smiling
Tony’s ability to come up with niche yet such simple and effective metaphors is outstanding. The door bit was amazing
The door metaphor was just perfect
I came all the way from listening on spotify to comment that. I was audibly saying "ohhh, OHHHH, OHHHHHHHHHHHHHH" as he was continuing the metaphor@@RamsesEsports
Huge shout out to this podcast. Over the last few months of competing I’ve gone from the local 0-2er to taking games off of ranked in region players and sets off of formally ranked in region players. I really believe this podcast has helped a lot and you all are to thank so thank you!
Thanks for another great discussion, guys. Sometimes, I can't visualize how a particular concept would look in a real match. It would be cool if there was a companion series (something like "Coaches Corner Applied") that paired snippets of the discussion with relevant VOD clips. Just a thought!
Damn Tony really learned the automatic door MU
😂😂😂
Love your guys stuff, you mentioned taking ideas from comments. Idk if this topic was covered but mentality of somebody playing a bad or not meta character (dr.Mario ganon etc) and what they are doing or what tools do they have to use to win or what does it take to be good with a character that’s not meta relevant.
Each of you provide such a unique and helpful perspective into the game and its aspects. Truly feel like ive been improving faster due to listening.
I would love an episode about Counter Picking Stages, Closing Out A Game, or Winning From Behind
This podcast offers such well thought out insights into this beautiful complicated game. You guys are GOATED coaches.
Really loved Ramses point about conditioning being more broad of a concept then the word actually entails. This game offers players such an insane amount of freedom/options that its not really realistic to condition a single forced option out of our opponent. Ramses is right in that in reality, you're pushing them into a wide range of options that you have to be ready to respond to.
Glad to hear you agree! Conditioning is still an important term but understanding how it works in practice helps us apply it more accurately
I'm absolutely here for tony conditioning a door into letting him enter work at will
shout out to tony for doing this what looks like a lunch break. crazy dedication to giving us insight. i will use your arcane knowledge tony
great stuff as always, guys!
I've realised I do this as a Samus main, where I'll start charging deliberately to make my opponent recover high, then cover it for the kill. It only works if they've spent the game getting hit with my edgeguarding, otherwise they have the presence of mind to stall and wait for a safe way to recover low, which is harder to directly punish (though still obviously advantage for me).
It is eerie how yall are describing exactly the thought process I developed and used in my games recently. To the order of it. So cool.
Bumping up a content idea I shared a while ago: Each coach takes a newbie under their wing for some time and have their apprentices face-off in some sort of format. Have the coaches commentate, review, or interview them about the sets. The bragging rights would have dummy 😁
So The Ultimate Fighter but for smash
51:00-51:34 congratulations, you are now playing Super Smash Brothers
Great contents, I cannot appreciate enough that you discuss fresh topics and conceptual ones with more frequency lately
Marss Sparg0 & Acola are very good at this
Tbf their characters are blessed with tools that make it very easy to do this (zair, cloud bair, Steve up tilt, minecart)
@@pbz7572one of these is not like the others…
Tony your mic was very nice this video :)
I'm just here for the sliding doors.
Sweet door talk
Love this podcast. Would appreciate chapters to revisit topics after!
That would go hard
would you guys talk about miya game&watch at some point ? obviously characters mad simple but there’s plenty to talk ab with his methods and how he goes about advantage state and oppressing the people across from him. he truly makes people feel like they have to run away from g&w constantly and we haven’t really seen that at the top level from watch.
Yep. They play so scared, like Kazuya level scared, because Miyas advantage is so broken. It's wild.
I would love a whole thing about stage picks. I really am not sure what stages are good for which character, so I never know what to ban at my locals.
Could we have an episode on holding leads?
Would love an episode about Llod's guide to improvement, or how to structure learning something when just starting.
Also would like a video on tech as a concept and when and how to learn and implement it.
Just another banger episode
Ide love to have a video explaining killing and win conditions on a more fundamental level
Writing this after watching half the vid so mb if this was already talked about. But IMO i dont really see how conditioning = adaptation, when conditioning is something that happens all the time. You can condition opponents in states of the game (advantage, disadvantage, neutral)
If i were to neutral get up from ledge 5 times in a row, my opponent has already begun to be conditioned to expect neutral get up. If i play exclusively reactively in neutral for 60-70% of a game they will be conditioned to expect that. Even a combo route could condition, lets say a combo that ends in a back air at ledge several times, but for the last time i do up air and catch them holding in because theyre expecting (have been conditioned to expect) a back air and they die off the top.
My point being i dont know how adaptation ties in to this unless were talking about the opponent whos been conditioned and has to realize it and adapt to it.
Thanks for another great video. Love these coaching episodes
How good is Meta Knight in todays meta??
greatest of all time
blink twice if you need to be rescued tony
Is the edge guarding episode behind a paywall or something? If not, can someone direct me to it?
ua-cam.com/video/TXqtiC1DVdg/v-deo.html
Thank you. 🥲
Pls make an episode about dr. Mario would love to hear it
Haha me too brother, pgstats has some good insights on dr.Mario and just watching sets of top players help.
I would love a video on Sephiroth like how you made one for Joker
Pls make an episode about dr. Mario would love to hear your opitnions
Its so uncanny how tony never stops smiling
Its uncanny how obsessive some of you are about some ones facial expression. Every single video there's multiple comments on it, who gives enough of a shit to constantly post about it?
Get a hobby
@@Marinthees obsessive? Constantly? I only mentioned it twice in a span of months, i havent see anyone else mention it either
@@RamsesEsports gaming is my hobby, and when im not gaming i work 2 jobs every single day of the week, even weekends
Conditioning is nice and all, but can we please get a soap/deodorant combo tutorial?
No . We need locals as stinky as possible
it's a build-a-bear combo tree and everything is a combo starter, if you need a tutorial it's not the archetype for you.
It’s condition lmao Ramses, it seemed like a woke response
I’m legit the first !
Impressive, your parents must be very proud!