ONKYO AV Receiver - How to Repair "HDMI Board Error" Part#1
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- Опубліковано 26 лип 2024
- VIDEO TUTORIAL shows how to repair the "HDMI Board Error" of an ONKYO TX-NR737 AV Receiver easily and inexpensively. The Error manifests istself as follows: the ONKYO provides no image at the HDMI MAIN output for the TV. Devices on HDMI INPUT are not recognized any more.
The presented repair replaces selected capacitors on the HDMI Board. Due to the high heat in the device, the capacitors age faster and are damaged. The replacement can be carried out quickly and easily.
The instructions of the Video Tutorial are similarly applicable for devices of the ONKYO TX-NR535, TX-NR636, TX-NR737, TX-NR838, DTR-30.6, DTR-40.6, DTR-50.6, HT-R593, HT-R693, HTR-993, HT-RC-660.
The Video should be of interest to all those who want to make the repair and troubleshooting of the ONKYO AV Receiver easier.
My aim with this video tutorial is to simplify repairs to the ONKYO AV Receiver, to extend the service life of the device and to avoid unnecessary electronic waste.
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00:00 Intro
00:45 Check the Circuit
02:09 Buying the Components
03:32 Required Tools
03:57 Remove the HDMI Board
06:13 Remove Capacitors
06:43 Solder in Capacitors
09:37 Install HDMI Board
12:06 Test the ONKYO
12:32 Conclusion
12:51 End
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Good video. Helped me a lot to revive my TX-NR636. Keep it up!
Thank you!
I have the same problem, TR NX 656, HDMI out isn't spitting image on TV, is this also a capacitoral issue?? Pls help
Danke für das Video
I've got a Onkyo TX-NR 709 that I got back in 2011. It was already sent out once to Onkyo for the extended warranty offered on it for the No Sound / No HDMI output that plagued these models. A few years back the primary HDMI output failed again. After seeing your video I am tempted to try this and try to revive the primary output. Currently it's still working over the secondary HDMI output which uses a different chipset.
Thank you for your experience ... I am happy if I was able to motivate you ... Perhaps you can tell us afterwards whether you were able to successfully repair the device ... Yes, it is a question of time before the replaced capacitors Fail again due to the high level of waste heat in the housing. In the long term, only an additional fan cooling can help. In the meantime I have installed such a fan cooling in the ONKYO receiver. The temperature in the case is now at an acceptable 30 °C ... I will try to publish a video tutorial in the next few days.
In the meantime, I've made a video on installing a fan. Here is the link: "ONKYO AV Receiver - How to install TEMPERATURE CONTROLLED COOLING FAN VENTILATION" (Link: ua-cam.com/video/09daUMpuCY0/v-deo.html).
Since I installed it, my AV receiver has stopped heating up.
Thank you
I am glad to hear that.
Please, before you change the capacitors, see my second video (ONKYO AV Receiver - How to Repair "HDMI Board Error" Part#2"). The HDMI error can also be traced back to a defective HDMI transmitter. It was like that in my case. Now the ONKYO works reliably again ;-)
Before I do this how do I know it’s definitely it’s the capacitors that need replacing? It is only the main HDMI out that doesn’t work the secondary is fine. When I scan thru the chips the K one gives me the ?????????. The rest are okay. Thank you kindly for any advice!
Hi, first, congratulations for the video. It's very detailed and guide me to understand the problem with my TX-NR797 (Main HDMI Output not working). Unfortunately, I didn't find any Service Manual in the net for my model and I can't find the correct capacitor to exchange and see if it fixes. Do you have the manual or someone else from a similar model or any other tip to handle this?
Hi I have the same problem for an Onkyo TX-NR616, Do you think that the fix applies to it too?
Super bro 🙏🙏
I am glad to hear that :-)
A really phantastic work, you have done. I'm the owner of al Onkyo TX-NR906. My problem is the same like you've shown. But the second problem for me, is that there are about 40 capacitors on the HDMI-board. So how can I know or decide which one has to be replaced? The diameter of the capacitor is between about 3 to 6 mm, the capacity 22 to 330 µF. Do I have to change them all? I also would like a answer in german. :-)
Great video & good explanation!
Thanks :-)
hello, when an amplifier of any brand works only with the multichannel outputs, can it be saved or does it have to be discarded?
Thank you very much. I had the same problem with my Onkyo tx-nr676. I have changed the capacitors and it looks like everything is working again 🙂
Thanks for your feedback. Glad to here I could help!👍
Which capacitors did you change for the tx-nr676 ?
Hi there, thank you so much for this video. I have a Onkyo TX-NR609 that is broken with this exact problem. It is in quite a remote location in another country. If I would to order the same capacitors would it work, or would I have to hunt down the wiring diagram to check ? I can solder, but from an electronics standpoint, that's about my limit. Many Thanks Ian.
How you get in your troubleshouting that the CAPs are the problem and not other part of HDMI Board? I have the same problem in TX-RZ810 that suddendly no picture on TV.
Did you figure it out? I have a TX-RZ710 that has no video out. The sound still works, and the TV still detects the hdmi cec data, just no video signal. Thanks.
Does this apply to onkyo TX-NR 609 too?
How about service onkyo tx nr 616...no sound and network
Guten Abend
Können sie mir evt sagen welche Kondensatoren ich für meinen TX NR 636
Brauche?
Mfg Uwe
Bitte hilf mir mal, kann es sein das bei den Orginal Elkos die schwarze Markierung nicht minus sondern plus ist? Und welche Ursache kann es noch sein.? Danke.
I have an issue with my TX NR 626 receiver. The primary HDMI started to fail (no video), but the ARC part still worked. The second HDMI port still worked, but that port doesn't have ARC. Now, a little later, the ARC on the main HDMI port is unstable as well, at times it works and at times it doesn't work.
The HDMI port on the 626 is not exactly the same, but it seems to have some similarities as the positions of the capacitors you mention in the video are exactly the same.
I wonder if this might be related to the capacitors as well
Did you fix it? I have the sam problem....Best regards, Simon
@@vortexor1 No, problem is likely bad soldering of HDMI controller / chip. You need someone with a BGA soldering machine to heat the chip. But that seems to be a temporary solution, root cause seems to be bad quality solder. I ended up buying a new receiver
Hallo , vielleicht weist du einen Rat
Ich habe ein HT-C660 baugleich TX-NR636
Per Fernbedienung schaltet er sich kurz ein und geht direkt wieder aus.
Tasten am Receiver...drücke ich diese zum einschalten...mehrmals auf verschiedene am Receiver....
geht er an...habe auch ein Bild aber keinen TON
Hängt das Einschalten eventuell auch mit dem HDMI Sound Problem zusammen weil die Software
das HDMI Board nicht mehr richtig Initialisieren kann ??
Lg
Hey, if the receiver switches itself off immediately after switching it on, an error is detected. The cause can have various causes:
- defective component is recognized (e.g. if the fan is not recognized, the receiver does not switch on either)
- defective on the circuit board, which may be related to the "no sound problem". There are a some video instructions available.
1. You could try to reset the receiver with the key combinations ("CBL/SAT" & "ON/STANDBY" in the Case for TX-NR737) to the factory settings. I assume you have already done that.
2. You can localise and isolate the error with the integrated DEBUG MODE. I made a video on how to use Debug Mode. U.a. also to test the fan. There are other test options available. Before using the debug mode, it is essential to disconnect the speakers, as the speakers are also tested for maximum volume! The link to the video "ONKYO AV Receiver - How to use integrated DEBUG MODE for COOLING FAN CONTROL" is here: ua-cam.com/video/Xp7ZiVGU6Ig/v-deo.html
I hope I could help you a little
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Hey, wenn sich der Receiver nach dem Einschalten gleich wieder ausschaltet, wird ein Fehler erkennt. Die Ursache kann verschiedene Ursachen haben:
- defektes Bauteil wird erkannt (z.B. wenn der Lüfter nicht erkannt wird, schaltet sich der Receiver auch nicht ein)
- defekt auf der Platine, der mit dem No Sound Problem zusammenhängen kann. Es gibt einige Videoanleitungen dazu im Netz.
1. Du könntest den Receiver mit der Tastenkombination ( "CBL/SAT" & "ON/STANDBY" im Fall für den TX-NR737 ) auf die Werkseinstellungen zurücksetzen. Ich gehe davon aus, dass hast Du bereits getan.
2. Du kannst den Fehler mit dem integrierten DEBUG MODE lokalisieren und weiter eingrenzen. Ich habe ein Video hierzu gemacht, wie der Debug Mode genutzt werden kann. U.a. auch um den Lüfter zu testen. Es sind andere Testmöglichkeiten vorhanden. Vor dem Einsatz des Debug Modus unbedingt die Boxen abklemmen, da auch die Lautsprecher auf maximale Lautstärke getestet werden! Der Link zum Video "ONKYO AV Receiver - How to use integrated DEBUG MODE for COOLING FAN CONTROL" befindet sich hier: ua-cam.com/video/Xp7ZiVGU6Ig/v-deo.html
Hoffe ich konnte Dir etwas weiterhelfen
Thank you for the video, amazing!
I have a similar issue with my Onkyo HT-R693. No sound/video, but through both the main- and sub-output. Bluetooth devices do stream audio properly..
Will your tutorial (+same capacitors) possibly work for my Onkyo? I might try this in 2 weeks!
Thank you
Ah never mind, didn’t read the description properly. Thanks, anyway!
@@malkaandben The capacitors can be the cause ...
The DSP (Digital Signal Processor) is often the cause of the no-sound problem. The microprocessors have temperatures of up to 70 ° C during operation and the contacts at the soldering points loosen over time. The "reballing/reflow" method helps to repair the DSP easily. The soldering points are re-soldered with great heat. Fortunately, I do not have this mistake and have not described the procedure.
The "reballing/reflow" procedure is well described in a variety of other videos ...
Looking back and before I start swapping the capacitors, I recommend testing the DSP and the individual microprocessors with the INTEGRATED DEBUG MODE. I created my own video for this ("ONKYO AV Receiver - How to use integrated DEBUG MODE for TROUBLESHOOTING - Part # 2" - ua-cam.com/video/SbyrOq7Vv8o/v-deo.html).
The procedure is described on position 5:52 in the video.
I hope this helps!
@@RepairUpgrade
Thank you kindly for taking the time to help us all.. even in the comment section, seriously amazing!
Just did the test; sadly getting question marks for the K1 (VSP), T1 (VSP2) and R1 (VSP2).
What would you recommend doing in this case? Reballing/reflow method for all three microprocessors, would that be possible or perhaps a lost cause?
@@malkaandben Nice to hear that DEBUG MODE could help a little further with troubleshooting.
I think it is unlikely that all microprocessors detached themselves from the board at the same time. That is why I would personally refrain from REBALLING the three microprocessors.
I rate the ??????????? in DEBUG MODE so that the microprocessor does not respond.
This not responding can be according to my assessment 1. a fault in the microprocessor BUT also 2. a lack of power supply from the microprocessor.
To 1. 'Fault in the microprocessor':
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The errors in the microprocessor and on the board can be seen 'with a little luck' with the naked eye. In the case of the HDMI transmitter - I made my own video for this 'ONKYO AV Receiver - How to Repair "HDMI Board Error" Part#2' (ua-cam.com/video/4pEwcBJofXM/v-deo.html) and Position: 04:52 the contacts were colored brown. The processor could be brought back to life with a heat gun thanks to REFLOW. If that doesn't help, the processor can still be replaced.
BUT for this procedure Experience in SMD soldering is required here and it is recommended to have the right professional equipment in the form of a microscope and a soldering station for SMD components. The challenge is also to get the microprocessor individually in the sale. Replacing the microprocessor without equipment can be very costly.
To 2.
'lack of power supply':
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A lack of power supply can be caused by defective capacitors, especially if the capacitor is used to smooth a supply voltage and creates a short circuit in the event of a defect ...
Therefore, replacing the capacitors could solve the problem. The likelihood of troubleshooting is small but possible. The effort and costs are low.
The challenge when replacing capacitors is to find the capacitors with the correct values (capacitance / voltage). The capacitor values are in the service manuals. The service manuals for the ONKYO receivers are available free of charge with a little research on the Internet. Not all values for the capacitors are listed with the values (capacitance / voltage) in the service manuals.
Testing the installed capacitors could help to find the correct capacitance value (voltage should be at least 16 V, ideally 220 V). Some multimeters offer the possibility to measure capacitor values. The capacitors must be removed for this. The measurement takes place at their contacts. The process is also complex but not so costly.
It is important to decide how much effort the device is worth ...
Finally, - and before the device is opened - is it possible to use connections other than HDMI? In my case, I only use the rear cinch connections and only use the HDMI MAIN connection to configure the device after a RESET. For the input of the audio signal I use the optical input and the cinch inputs. For video signals, I go DIRECTLY from the connected devices (DVD player etc.) to the television using an HDMI cable.
I have Onkyo TX-NR646, NO Video and Audio Via HDMI, Analog sounds works. i hear reason: network chip got over voltages = heat, second problem is DTS-chip, same problem.
I found your video to be the answer to my HDMI video problem, thank you for creating this, fantastic work! I do have a question for you if you would be so kind. After the replacement of the caps, 3 hours into is rebirth the audio started clipping in and out, video never missed a beat. Is there a capacitor involved in those that were changed that may be identifiable regarding audio? I assume I have a questionable solder connection but i don't know which to look at. Any help would be much appreciated
That does not sound good. It could be a cold solder joint that loses contact when heated and expanded. You should no longer operate the device in this state.
You have the following options:
1. Check the capacitance and polarity of the capacitors.
2. Solder the capacitors again.
3. Reset the device.
4. Hope after that everything works again.
5. If necessary, check the IC using the Integrated Debug Mode. I have created 2 videos for this.
6. Have you installed ventilation? If not, this is what you should do to increase the life of your device. Check out my other videos on this.
Thanks for the response! I shut it down when it became apparent it was a new issue. So of all the caps changed they should all be checked, meaning it could be anyone of
them? Ok I will do that. I did watch your other videos and will go back to them for all the tests and the additional fans to install. I just wanted to say thank you again for your outstanding videos and I look forward to being better suited to keep this running for some years to come. In your list you have resetting the device as an option, just curious what the benefit is, I will do it since you're much more adept at this than I !! : )
@@steveneffert993 I am glad if the video could help you.
I've a onkyo tx nr 686 with main hdmi out port don't work. Do you think maybe is the sarebbe problem?
Any word? I have the same problem.
Hi, Hello, I’m writing yours in Turkey. We have a ONKYO but somedays ago we met new problem about HDM card. I asked all province ONKYO service and then I couldn’t find it. I am wondering about if you have a hdm card, I’ll buy it. I’m waiting your answer.
Do you have a link to the exact capacitors you bought?
I bought the capacitors from a German supplier. I have added the data sheets for you in the video description ... But you can use any other manufacturer ... When choosing the electrolytic capacitors, the following parameters are decisive: the same capacity, a sufficiently high dielectric strength (here 16 volts) and a good temperature resistance (minimum 105 ° C, better 125 ° C). I hope this helps.
@@RepairUpgrade thanks!
will this work 575 ?
Danke für das Video, wenn du das nochmal auf deutsch machen würdest wäre es noch besser;-)
Kannst du mir vielleicht sagen welche Kondensatoren ich für ein TX-NR3010 und TX-NR5007 brauche?
Hey André,
the capacitors for the devices NR3010 and NR5007 are not known to me. Perhaps the service manuals will help you. You can find these for both device types on the net under the following links:
- TX-NR3010 (elektrotanya.com/showresult?what=tx-nr3010&kategoria=All&kat2=All)
- TX-NR5007 (elektrotanya.com/showresult?what=tx-nr5007&kategoria=All&kat2=All)
With the circuit diagrams contained therein and the capacitors of the removed HDMI board, the capacitor values can be determined. I recommend replacing all accessible electrolytic and aluminum capacitors on the HDMI board. I also recommend retrofitting the ONKYO receiver with a fan control, as the error can reappear very quickly. I recently posted my own video about it.
I am happy to include the reference with a German version for the tutorial:-)
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Hey André,
die Kondensatoren für die Geräte NR3010 und NR5007 sind mir nicht bekannt. Vielleicht helfen Dir die Service Manuals weiter. Du findest diese für die beide Gerätetypen im Netz unter den folgenden Links:
- TX-NR3010 (elektrotanya.com/showresult?what=tx-nr3010&kategoria=All&kat2=All)
- TX-NR5007 (elektrotanya.com/showresult?what=tx-nr5007&kategoria=All&kat2=All)
Mit den darin enthaltenen Schaltplänen und den Kondensatoren der ausgebauten HDMI Platine, lassen sich die Kondensatorwerte ermitteln. Ich empfehle auf dem HDMI Board alle zugänglichen Elektrolyt- und Aluminium Kondensatoren zu tauschen. Des weiteren empfehle ich die ONKYO Receiver mit einer Lüftersteuerung nachzurüsten, da der Fehler sehr schnell wieder auftreten kann. Ich habe ein eigenes Video dazu vor kurzem eingestellt.
Den Hinweis mit der deutschen Version nehme ich gern auf :-)
Do the ONKYO devices TX-NR3010 and TX-NR5007 have similar HDMI problems?
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Haben die ONKYO Geräte TX-NR3010 und TX-NR5007 ähnliche HDMI Probleme?
@@RepairUpgrade ja die Geräte TX-NR3010 und TX-NR5007 haben die selben Probleme und ich habe mir die Schaltpläne schon angeschaut, aber das übersteigt dann mein Horizont, leider konne ich da nicht die möglichen Kondensatoren erkennen.
Besteht die möglchkeit das du sie erkennst? gerne können wir auch ein 4 Ohren gespäch führen^^
@@dally77
To swap the capacitors I would do the following:
1) The HDMI board needs to be removed. The capacitors to be exchanged are located on the front and back of the HDMI board.
2)
The aluminum capacitors are to be replaced. The aluminium caps are easy to recognize with the naked eye by the silver cap. To be on the safe side, next to the capacitors there are also the designations "Cxxxx". The abbreviation "C" stands for Capacitor. "xxxx" for a consecutive number.
3)
With the designation Cxxxx you can determine the value for capacity and voltage in the service manual. To do this, you use the search function in the PDF document. The value is in the service manual in the circuit diagram next to the capacitor.
4)
ONKYO has not given the values for all capacitors in the service manual. The background is that it is not assumed that e.g. SMD capacitors can be exchanged.
Hope that helps you first.
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Um die Kondensatoren zu tauschen würde ich wie folgt vorgehen:
1) Das HDMI Board muss ausgebaut werden. Die zu tauschenden Kondensatoren befinden sich sowohl auf Vorder- und Rückseite des HDMI Boards.
2) Getauscht werden die Aluminium Kondensatoren. Diese sind mit bloßem Auge leicht an der silbernen Kappe zu erkennen. Zur Sicherheit stehen neben den Kondensatoren noch die Bezeichnungen "Cxxxx". Die Abkürzung "C" steht für Capacitor. "xxxx" für eine fortlaufende Nummer.
3) Mit der Bezeichnung Cxxxx kannst Du im Service Manual den Wert für Kapazität und Spannung ermitteln. Dazu nutzt Du im PDF Dokument die Suche Funktion. Der Wert steht im Service Manual im Schaltplan neben dem Kondensator.
4) ONKYO hat im Service Manual nicht für alle Kondensatoren die Werte angegeben. Hintergrund ist, dass nicht davon ausgegangen wird, dass z.B. SMD Kondensatoren getauscht werden.
Hoffe das hilft Dir erst einmal weiter.
@@dally77
If you have a possibility to photograph the boards from the front and back in high resolution and make them available via a cloud link (google, dropbox or similar), I could take a quick look at it ...
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Falls Du die Möglichkeit hast die Platinen von Vorder- und Rückseite hochauflösend zu fotografieren und über einen Cloud - Link (google, dropbox o.ä.) zur Verfügung zu stellen, könnte ich einen kurzen Blick darauf werfen ...
Hallo, ich habe ein Denon avr-x1300w, bedingt durch einen HDMI Kabelbruch, bekomme ich keinen HDMI out mehr und mein gesamtes Heimkino läuft ohne Bild. Der Receiver ist aber sonst komplett in Ordnung, es klingt alles super, jedoch ohne BILD.
Ich bin sehr Laienhaft und vermute, dass es ein defekter IC sein muss. Könntest du mir bitte helfen, würde auch dafür bezahlen. Gruß. Enrique
P.S. das Service Manual habe ich auch
P.S. hatte mich im oberen Text verschrieben: Gerät läuft ohne Bild: Text wurde korrigiet
Hallo, läuft das Heimkino "ohne Bild" oder "ohne Sound"?
@@RepairUpgrade Hallo, lieben Dank fürs Antworten: das Heimkino läuft leider ohne Bild.
@@enriqueleon4331 Ok, habe mir den Denon mal auf einem Bild angeschaut. Auf der Rückseite sind 4 Audio Eingänge (2 x OPTICAL) und 2 Eingänge (CBL/SAT und MEDIA/PLAY).
Du solltest in diesem Fall für das VIDEO Signal Deine Geräte (BluRay DVD Player etc.) DIREKT mit dem HDMI Kabel an den Fernseher anschließen.
Nur das AUDIO Signal schickst Du optisch oder per Kabel über die 2 x Audio Eingänge (optisch oder Kabel) durch den Denon, wo diese verstärkt werden und über das Heimkino ausgegeben werden.
So nutze ich den ONKYO TX trotz Reparatur seit geraumer Zeit ohne Probleme ...
Vom Austausch der IC kannst Du auf diesem Wege erst mal Abstand nehmen.
Hoffe das hilft Dir weiter!?
Viele Grüße
@@RepairUpgrade Lieben Dank, die Methode werde ich ausprobieren. Brauche dann ein HDMI Hub um die Geräte alle an mein TV und Beamer zu bekommen.
Leider kann ich keine Einstellungen am Receiber mehr vornehmen, da ich es per Tastenkombination vor kurzem resetet habe. Ich lasse dir meine Email da, melde dich bitte bei Gelegenheit, dann schicke ich dir meine Telefonnummer. Mir ist lieber, ich könnte es irgendwie mit den IC´s hinbekommen um das Gerät wieder in seiner vollen Funktionsfähigkeit zu nutzen.
Gruß und Dank
Enrique
enrique9974@outlook.de
@@enriqueleon4331 Genau, so etwas brauchst Du. Bei Amazon gibt es derartige Geräte unter dem Namen HDMI Switch mit verschiedenen Input und Output - Kanälen und teilweise IR Fernbedienung.
Debug dsp... D????????????
Hi, warum machst du das nicht auf deutsch?