Being in NA, I can't IMAGINE how fucking valuable it would be. Having to shave out wood for water pipes and aqueducts must have been a full time job pre-Rome. Stone cutters must have been paid WELL.
@@thatsweetlilthing2 not necessarily. Most of the people doing the hardest labor in larger scale societies were either enslaved or doing the equivalent pay of a McDonald's employee. Why? Because there wasn't a lot of technology to differentiate to in that time. You had such little different types of labor that most people knew how to do a little bit of everything. Once metalworking, education, large scale warfare, advanced engineering, etc started coming around, then the jobs were a bit more than you're either chief, fighting man, or common laborer. I mean granted the hierarchy was still divided into the 4 types: Nobility, Clergy, Soldier, Laborer, but now you can specialize in certain fields. Now you can be a laborer, but also specialized as a carpenter, for example.
@@point-five-oh6249 I really don't think you're giving the Romans technology enough credit. I wouldnt have put it past slave labor being used to construct the aqueducts but it goes way beyond basic engineering
@@thatsweetlilthing2 Oh at the time the technology for the Roman Aqueducts were revolutionary. I am just saying that with the tech the guy in the video has, that you can't really expect people of the same era to be able to do that kind of thing because in the primitive period most people lived in small villages with one or two large cities here and there. I'm just saying that Rome made sure to distinguish that you were still a peasant, even if you were smarter than the average tavern drunk.
It’s mind blowing how much work the most basic ingredients take. Just adequate shelter is a huge undertaking. But seeing how to actually gather enough metal and all the prep ....how did we make it this far? Our ancestors were badass - as are you, sir.
Exactly what I think of whenever I see a picture of a suit of armor or a sword. The amount of effort required in its construction is just mind blowing. Equipping an entire army would require so much smelting and smiting. It's incredible.
That’s because there were many blacksmiths in a civilization. Slaves and experienced blacksmiths were often ordered to forge swords, axes, hammers, and eventually guns.
Agreed... can you imagine how many times you'd have to hit the "×" button just for the baffles? You may even have to alternate with another button for the reciprocal action. "It ain't much, but it's honest work." Lmao
I also spent a few years in the steel industry, and this is indeed amazing. Not the chemistry, that's pretty simple. The fact that you can get the temperatures necessary with that primitive of equipment is an achievement. Would not take much more for the poster to make crucible steel instead of bloom steel. Crucible steel doesn't take much more tech, and produces a far easier to work steel product.
@Max Martins Crucible steel is all about keeping oxygen out. So you put in your iron oxide (iron ore) some scrap iron, carbon, a bit of glass or good sand into a crucible. Which was then sealed and "baked" or fired at a high enough temperature to melt the components down. Once fired, you'd break open the crucible, and if everything went right, you'd have a hockey puck of steel. This allows the carbon to remove the impurities in the iron (mainly oxygen), and give you steel. You also tend to want more carbon than you need, as that makes it carbon steel, which is good for weapons. There are some very good youtube videos made by historians that discuss crucible steel in great depth, and some even go into the ratios of what you need to add to make it work. Steel making is all about ratios of what you add to make the desired grade or alloy of steel. In modern steel making, there is usually a secondary furnace, where the steel is kept molten, so that the chemistry of the steel can be tweaked to get exactly what you want. In the mills i have worked in or visited, this is called the LMF, or ladle metallurgical furnace.
As an Iron Ore Mine Operator in Western Australia, I can safely say that those Iron Ore rocks were not just sitting under that kind of earth there. They were placed there just for this video.
@@johnpartridge7623 i disagree personally. The process from ore to iron includes in my opinion the extraction of iron ore. Also it is abit indicative of the whole video if he is willing to mislead in such regards. It kind of throws into question quite a few different techniques used (and were they done correctly without any 'help' so to speak). But that's just my 2cents.
Where I live in the America there are mountains with magnetite rocks laying around everywhere. Accessibility really depends on the luck of the geology draw.
Iron ore is found in certain rock beds, not all of it needs mining, it's mined as you say to avoid open cast mining and environmental issues that accompanies open cast mining. That rock is not hard to find it's just a matter of extracting it which is what this Gentleman just did
I've been looking into old techniques of smelting and metalworking for a story I want to write and this video has been one of the best finds. Makes the process as clear as could be while not speaking a single word. And it's very well shot and produced and a pleasure to watch. Excellent video.
@@uahatoxicboi9801 It's not called anything really yet. It's still in its infancy. "Empire Road" and "The Books" are the names of the folders on my computer. ;)
@@emperorbunnybun7513 It's a kind of medieval/low-fantasy setting. It's part of a series of larger stories kicking around in my head for years. The ones with the blacksmithing takes place in a kind of criminal/smugglers locale in a disintegrating empire.
6:03 I love the sound of the log splitter that echoes in the area. Thank you for enabling us to wittness and enjoy in such high quality. What makes your videos special to me is, that you take a lot of care choosing the videoperspective. It does feel like a video painting (f. e. 7:29
Doesn't it depend on the type of hardwood that is used to make charcoal? Are there some hardwoods that have a high BTU that could make charcoal to melt iron ore or at least from a meteorite? Iron smithing was known in Egypt to a least 1325 BC and likely well before then as an iron dagger was found in King Tut's tomb.
Yep, but you can make steel from that, with hammer and many hours work. ua-cam.com/video/X3KJik8a3VU/v-deo.html similar smelting (charcoal and some sand donations for better steel quality) and in final, you have steel sword. but you need many more basic material for that.
@@PrimitiveSkillsnet This is not steel, it's sponge iron with slag. You need much, much higher temperatures to make steel which, can't be reached using charcoal.
Two things: Making carbon is easy. Finding iron ore depending on location can be hard. Secondly, swinging that stone axe so close to bare feet gives me heartburn
@@PotionsMaster666 i dont think you understood what i meant. Because if you want to make an element you would need an element with less protons than your desired product. You would then have to shoot additional protons into it so that for example boron (5 protons) turns into carbon (6 protons)
i used to try to build stuff in the woods when i was around ten years old. i wasnt very good, but i didnt read any books or anything on traps and such. i just remember how much i truly enjoyed being in the woods and making stuff from nature. i cant imagine the satisfaction this man feels.
Every survival video has the same comment section: "he could survive an apocalypse" "I did _____ in minecraft" "I bet in his next vid he's going to build a computer from scratch" "I could do that too if I lived near the wild."
There's so few original people in the youtube comments. It's always the same lame ass stolen jokes from either reddit or other popular comments. YT comments are the best example of empty internet theory lmfao
Especially when he starts pumping air into his makeshift furnace :D And since I started watching that show, I've been wondering why is making shoes not a priority in these channels XD
It's a bloom, once he hammers the living hell out of it it'll become wrought iron. Which is ~0,1% carbon away from steel. It's really soft right now because of all the slag an unrefined bloom has inside of it.
@@paracovo pig iron blooms are high in carbon, it needs to be refined by remelting in a puddling furnace and separated manually before you have wrought.
He is not making steel but pig iron. To turn pig iron into steel will take some more refining process further. Anyway, his ability to do it is fantastic . Congratulations brave primitive hard working man ! Greetings from Brasil.
I dont know anything about it, but I thought it being mixed right in with the coal would give it the carbon mixture that forms steel? What else is done to make traditional steel?
@angrydingus It likely fairly low carbon, wrought iron (not pig iron). It's a process called bloomery steel, and can produce widely varying products, and widely varying carbon content. The main issue is all the slag that is mixed within the bloom takes extensive processing to make something useable. And usually that just means spreading the slag/inclusions around as uniformly as possible. It can yield quality steel final product though, for certain. Depending on the technique and time put into it. Certainly useable steel, it was used through history before more advanced procedures were developed- blast furnaces etc.
hes right, steel has a carbon content below 2,06%, everything above is called cast iron. this is called pig iron and needs further refining like removing the carbon content with oxygen (or back in the days with regular atmospheric air, which contains a lot of nitrogen so it is not so great), and desulfurization (sulfur creates lots of impurities after the casting process). also a good slag is needed to reduce Si, Mn. but technically, if he brings the carbon down below 2,06%.. it is considered steel, not a good quality but basic steel. :)
@@KGKolibri Bloomery steel was mostly lower carbon iron, like I said, not pig iron. And so is the product in the video. It is not impossible to create high carbon iron in a bloomery procedure, but it's atypical. That said, it produces iron with a range of content, not usually mixed evenly. See below for sources. www.researchgate.net/publication/282956457_Mechanical_Properties_of_Medieval_Bloomery_Iron_Materials_-_Comparative_Tensile_and_Charpy-tests_on_Bloomery_Iron_Samples_and_S235JRG2 exarc.net/issue-2013-2/ea/production-high-carbon-steel-directly-bloomery-process-theoretical-bases-and-metallographic-analyses Or search bloomery in wiki.
i dont know about the comments saying its fake... but back in the days, ppl made metals without heavy machineries. so this is a good video for insights to me. thank you
@@franksigwart9777 quantum computers are an actual thing. It works with particles in superposition, using qubits. Plenty of documentation out there. Maybe try searching around.
It seems to me that the title of the video is wrong. This man first extracted iron oxide from the rocks (the reddish earth) and then that "black rock" that he obtained from the furnace is neither iron nor much less steel... but it is iron slag. This iron slag needs to be further refined so that iron can be melted from this iron slag and with molds to create real iron objects such as swords, for example. Steel is something much more refined than iron and to create it you need to reach temperatures much higher than the temperatures that a simple clay or clay oven can reach (a clay oven with these methods cannot reach much beyond a thousand degrees centigrade). The title of this video should be something like "Making iron from rocks", although in this video it is missing that this man melted that iron slag to form an iron ingot or, better yet, an iron sword. I greet you from Uruguay.
At the end of the day, he ended up with a hunk of low quality iron requiring a lot more processing, but *WHOA! That was really cool!* There was a lot of effort, hard work and planing necessary to put this thing together. Impressive. I would love to see them process that raw iron into something cool. Perhaps, they've already have and have already released a video.
@@joecaner yeah, because he used SEO tools and if you actually look at the sub list, he bought them. lmao. But still, the foundation of the comment. Native people never wasted steps. It was about survival. Not breaking and using useless objects for servicing or creating. It's useful for a modern age "skill set" for primitive objectives. But back in the day, no one used this and no one was this wasteful while doing so.
Well since he is working the muscles he actually needs to do all this and not just building show muscles he should be stronger than a ripped dude. Plus he working really efficiently.
Primitive Technology was able to get some little metal slugs from an ash iron muck concoction he made but he hasn't not made a follow up video on it yet. Most channels though definitely don't do things this in debth with stuff they actually get from nature, most seem to have a little cheating involved.
It does not melt. It is a chemical reaction between the iron oxide and the carbon in the forge, it reduces the iron oxide to pure iron, which will never melt at the temperatures he reached. Once he got the bloom out it wasn't even really at forge welding temps.
@@Sgtassburgler interesting. I thought that it didn't really look like it got hot enough. He's gonna need a much bigger furnace running on a water wheel powered blower to melt steel
But before that, he need to make some iron bushing, or else the water powered machines won't last very long, and the screeching sound of wood rubbing together will make his ears bleed.
This guy and primitive technology are the only two primitive channels I have respect for cause they respect the land and what they do is out of necessity not some stupid underground swimming pool and destroy the rainforest
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Looks like limonite to me. FeO(OH) with some water (H2O) in the structure. That explains why he processes it like limonite as well, the first heating removes the water from the structure.
@@bujtorm FeO has a dark grey color, Fe2O3 has a red-brown color. After the first thermic treatment, there are red-brown material and darkgrey, but, in a lot of cases when there is FeO and Fe2O3 there is also MnO2. And MnO2 has a dark grey color, very similar to FeO. Ps. in my first comment i written the timestamp 9:30.
yeah Primitive Technology does not mind if other people use his name to promote said tech. That guy is cool af and is the original Primitive Technology. This guy here we are watching is also really good
That iron ore he seems to be using looks to be limonite, a pseudomorph of pyrite that has had its molecular structure hydrated due to being exposed to the elements for a while, but still retains its crystalline structure hence is why it may also come in forms of cuboids.
I think I know this guy. He used to live next door to me. I couldn’t figure out what he was doing until I looked out one morning and he had built a Volkswagen.
Outstanding! I also recognize getting this far was incredibly labor intensive and yet there's so much left to do... have you considered making a forge with a tap or a plate so you can get the bloom out without breaking the whole thing down? If it was a replaceable plug then later you could use it as a forge; tip your bellows on end and rig a lever and a counterweight for it so you can just stand there and waggle up and down on the weight to pump the fire up while you're forging out some wrought iron and making a set of tools to make even better things. You are INCREDIBLY lucky to be where you can just roam around and find decent ore... dig around a little and you might end up doing some copper or silversmithing :) P.S. are you familiar with a bit of tech called a trompe? No moving parts, just water, and you get compressed air...
@Lance and Emerald I think most people here play minecraft and that's why they're here, because they want to take Minecraft in VR to the next level by dropping the "virtual" aspect completely
This reminds me of an episode of Man at Arms: Reforged when they made the katana from Kill Bill from scratch, making the tamahagane and shingane from bloomery steel with a furnace just like that (albeit gas fired rather than using bellows).... Cool video!!
@@The_Ninedalorian Leaves and my bare hand. I know how to ask for a frankish style toilet in a few languages. Worst toilet I ever saw was at a bus stop in Turkey. It was like that scene in Trainspotting. This is my point though, civilization to me is a nice quiet squat. Without having to consider what's crawling on my leg or how many days I have to wash my left hand before I can eat with it again.
Madoch Jamroch i dont think tongs are needed. Just a good forging hammer and then use it to forge thinks like larger axe heads and maybe even a pick axe would be cool
Drowseh personally i think he is going to be forging a large knife or small machete. It would be far more useful for his environment and besides, he already has an axe.
@@boid9761 it's still cool to watch him do this. I know that I would now have the patience though. I woulf have gave up after cutting that wood with that little axe!
Love your videos, but that needs a lot of refining during the forging process, but I guess you know that. It's great having you back posting videos again.
@@Sgtassburgler Yes, you could see when he was grinding it, bits of slag and junk metal were just crumbling off. It needs a lot of work and he needs to build a nice hot forge.... but, he did a good thorough job to get where he did. Best primitive youtube iron furnace I've seen.
Great video, thank you! I would love to see you refine this further and cast into a tool or maybe a hammer to improve the efficiency of the process! Also would be interested in seeing trash metal refined in this way. Great idea and wonderful channel, ignore those who can't appreciate, they talk a lot, but those who are wise say little. I took it upon myself to go to this length as the comments seem dull and unappreciated. I wanted you to know your appreciated!! Thank you!!!
I mean if you are stranded in the wild all you have to do is make a fire and keep it going. People will see the flames and call 911 and they will find you. Unless you are on an island good luck
that wouldn't do anything, the bloom can't get any more "refined" than it is, re-firing it will just add more slag mass. The proper procedure at that stage is to completely flatten the bloom into a workable piece, consolidating all the bits of metal in it. He can't really do much with that large of a bloom without proper tools. It would best for him to do another run with a smaller bloom, and make a small hammer and tongs from that with which he can more finely craft other tools.
I suspect that that piece is going to be an anvil. Will make it a lot easier to craft the other tools you are talking about. It is also the easiest piece of the blacksmith toolkit to create.
This is quite amazing. Can someone explain though how this is different from the iron making process? It seems that the flue stack is higher giving the iron more time to carbonize whereas the iron had a shorter stack making it more rough and ready iron. Is this correct or are there nuances I'm missing? Either way, this vid is absolutely incredible. Making seemingly advanced life-changing raw material from mud-hut level techniques.
I'm not sure how high a temperature the bloomery in the video achieved or how long the ore was heated, but I think it technically produced a mixture of slag and iron called a bloom. Working the bloom with the hammer drives more of the slag out of the mass, making it wrought iron. To your question, it might be a small semantic difference; some of the iron must be absorbing carbon, so some "high quality" steel probably exists in the bloom but not a substantial amount in the final billet.
@@utubeape In one of the mines I work at regularly they get roughly 75000 tons in 24h. So not really the same thing as a dude collecting rocks, but you can still enjoy the process.
We have balls of Ore like this that are much larger and concentrated, I found this video researching my findings. What a great channel and now I can learn about Ore all over my area!
I love that you went through the process of roasting the ore - most "primitive smelting" videos don't do that and they always get much less iron than they could than if they had roasted the ore.
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@@honeyblackman980 He misses out on the ad revenue
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Iron Age, very good ! What next ? an hammer ? hooks ? ...Axe ?...
Everyone of these makes me realize how much of a Godsend bamboo is to a primitive civilization.
Being in NA, I can't IMAGINE how fucking valuable it would be. Having to shave out wood for water pipes and aqueducts must have been a full time job pre-Rome. Stone cutters must have been paid WELL.
@@thatsweetlilthing2 not necessarily. Most of the people doing the hardest labor in larger scale societies were either enslaved or doing the equivalent pay of a McDonald's employee. Why? Because there wasn't a lot of technology to differentiate to in that time. You had such little different types of labor that most people knew how to do a little bit of everything. Once metalworking, education, large scale warfare, advanced engineering, etc started coming around, then the jobs were a bit more than you're either chief, fighting man, or common laborer. I mean granted the hierarchy was still divided into the 4 types: Nobility, Clergy, Soldier, Laborer, but now you can specialize in certain fields. Now you can be a laborer, but also specialized as a carpenter, for example.
@@point-five-oh6249 I really don't think you're giving the Romans technology enough credit. I wouldnt have put it past slave labor being used to construct the aqueducts but it goes way beyond basic engineering
@@thatsweetlilthing2 Oh at the time the technology for the Roman Aqueducts were revolutionary. I am just saying that with the tech the guy in the video has, that you can't really expect people of the same era to be able to do that kind of thing because in the primitive period most people lived in small villages with one or two large cities here and there. I'm just saying that Rome made sure to distinguish that you were still a peasant, even if you were smarter than the average tavern drunk.
...and I used to think they were only good for bongs.
I love the sound of emptiness. No walls no acoustic interference.. Pure echoing beauty.
I’m seriously so amazed there aren’t more comments about that beautiful sound
Whats about this damn rooster?
TAXI... TAXI..!!!
Yes...Just like thousands of years ago.
Yeah those hits with his axe sounded like gunshots when they echoed.
i'm amazed he still has all his toes
I wonder how we lived before shoes were invented 🤔
@@elismith6369 in trees, eating bananas and scratching our butt. Even if we were on the ground, we were definitely not working a forge!
suprised he hasnt made some sandals, slipons and Moccasins
@@VincentGonzalezVeg He needed the forge so he could make them steel toes. Gotta watch out for OSHA, don't ya know!
@@VincentGonzalezVeg where he is at, people still walk bare foot, so why should he be different lol.. quick wash and off he goes to bed 😁
Luckily he had invented the camera before developing the process of making steel.
Lmao. Why does this not have more upvoted.
@@77Fmydog because we're not on reddit
@@77Fmydog found the basement dweller
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Bill indeed we did
It’s mind blowing how much work the most basic ingredients take. Just adequate shelter is a huge undertaking. But seeing how to actually gather enough metal and all the prep ....how did we make it this far? Our ancestors were badass - as are you, sir.
Research is the harder job imo. Knowledge is the ultimate power. But yes, he was epic
thats why teamwork is important to produce this thing faster to industry
Exactly what I think of whenever I see a picture of a suit of armor or a sword. The amount of effort required in its construction is just mind blowing. Equipping an entire army would require so much smelting and smiting. It's incredible.
That’s because there were many blacksmiths in a civilization. Slaves and experienced blacksmiths were often ordered to forge swords, axes, hammers, and eventually guns.
Remember to thank an engineer! ;)
Iron ingots should be way more expensive on rpgs
RPGs typically involve magic and industrial scale production. RPGs also have to tweak timescales and costs to keep players grinding, but not bored.
Once you have iron, getting more iron is easy since you can make proper metal tools and make mines instead of looking for surface ore.
Agreed... can you imagine how many times you'd have to hit the "×" button just for the baffles? You may even have to alternate with another button for the reciprocal action. "It ain't much, but it's honest work." Lmao
Yeah because of the work put into them. Iron is much harder to work than gold or silver.
Ingot is poop on rpg online
The joy of achieving clearly-defined goals.
And the rest after that is just 😌👌
The problem is, that he didn't achieve the goal as stated in title of the video. He produced iron, not steel.
As a someone who works in the steel industry i have to say im amazed by this
See, you don't need all that fancy stuff like PPE, barely a pant to cover your steel balls, that's all ...
I also spent a few years in the steel industry, and this is indeed amazing. Not the chemistry, that's pretty simple. The fact that you can get the temperatures necessary with that primitive of equipment is an achievement. Would not take much more for the poster to make crucible steel instead of bloom steel. Crucible steel doesn't take much more tech, and produces a far easier to work steel product.
@Max Martins Crucible steel is all about keeping oxygen out. So you put in your iron oxide (iron ore) some scrap iron, carbon, a bit of glass or good sand into a crucible. Which was then sealed and "baked" or fired at a high enough temperature to melt the components down. Once fired, you'd break open the crucible, and if everything went right, you'd have a hockey puck of steel.
This allows the carbon to remove the impurities in the iron (mainly oxygen), and give you steel. You also tend to want more carbon than you need, as that makes it carbon steel, which is good for weapons.
There are some very good youtube videos made by historians that discuss crucible steel in great depth, and some even go into the ratios of what you need to add to make it work.
Steel making is all about ratios of what you add to make the desired grade or alloy of steel. In modern steel making, there is usually a secondary furnace, where the steel is kept molten, so that the chemistry of the steel can be tweaked to get exactly what you want. In the mills i have worked in or visited, this is called the LMF, or ladle metallurgical furnace.
As an Iron Ore Mine Operator in Western Australia, I can safely say that those Iron Ore rocks were not just sitting under that kind of earth there. They were placed there just for this video.
For this Video, It doesn't matter where the Iron Ore was found it's about the process from ore to Iron
@@johnpartridge7623 i disagree personally. The process from ore to iron includes in my opinion the extraction of iron ore. Also it is abit indicative of the whole video if he is willing to mislead in such regards. It kind of throws into question quite a few different techniques used (and were they done correctly without any 'help' so to speak). But that's just my 2cents.
Where I live in the America there are mountains with magnetite rocks laying around everywhere. Accessibility really depends on the luck of the geology draw.
unfortunate that.
Iron ore is found in certain rock beds, not all of it needs mining, it's mined as you say to avoid open cast mining and environmental issues that accompanies open cast mining. That rock is not hard to find it's just a matter of extracting it which is what this Gentleman just did
I've been looking into old techniques of smelting and metalworking for a story I want to write and this video has been one of the best finds. Makes the process as clear as could be while not speaking a single word.
And it's very well shot and produced and a pleasure to watch.
Excellent video.
Whats the story about?
What’s the book called?
@@uahatoxicboi9801 It's not called anything really yet. It's still in its infancy. "Empire Road" and "The Books" are the names of the folders on my computer. ;)
@@emperorbunnybun7513 It's a kind of medieval/low-fantasy setting. It's part of a series of larger stories kicking around in my head for years. The ones with the blacksmithing takes place in a kind of criminal/smugglers locale in a disintegrating empire.
I know how you feel. I've been doing the same for a game I want to make.
6:03 I love the sound of the log splitter that echoes in the area.
Thank you for enabling us to wittness and enjoy in such high quality.
What makes your videos special to me is, that you take a lot of care choosing the videoperspective. It does feel like a video painting (f. e. 7:29
Gotta love living in a valley.
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patrick quinn won’t anyone think of the Neanderthals?!
Me too
Finally someone notice about it
But this ain't steel, it's a bloom of sponge iron. Making of steel requires higher temperatures, which can't be reached using charcoal.
@Pavel. I got what i expect to see. A piece of slag🤣
Doesn't it depend on the type of hardwood that is used to make charcoal? Are there some hardwoods that have a high BTU that could make charcoal to melt iron ore or at least from a meteorite? Iron smithing was known in Egypt to a least 1325 BC and likely well before then as an iron dagger was found in King Tut's tomb.
Yep, but you can make steel from that, with hammer and many hours work. ua-cam.com/video/X3KJik8a3VU/v-deo.html similar smelting (charcoal and some sand donations for better steel quality) and in final, you have steel sword. but you need many more basic material for that.
@Robertson Thirdly thnx I will
How Japanese made steel. Go check.. it's charcoal
This is what I've waited for
thanks
I agree, you don't see this done ever, no wonder - so much work.
So is the first job to now make a hammer with it?
@@PrimitiveSkillsnet
What's the first step now you have the glorious iron ? make a hammer ?
@@civismesecret he makes a pickaxe so he can mine diamonds
@@PrimitiveSkillsnet This is not steel, it's sponge iron with slag. You need much, much higher temperatures to make steel which, can't be reached using charcoal.
Two things: Making carbon is easy. Finding iron ore depending on location can be hard. Secondly, swinging that stone axe so close to bare feet gives me heartburn
Reminds me of the video titled "3 Ancient Hand Tools Japanese Carpenters Still Use" from 4:20. That's even more uncomfortable to watch.
I chopped the side of my foot with a hatchet while wearing slip on flip flops lol
Well MAKING Carbon is Not very easy
@@karlalbert2798 yeah for you it's definitely not, snowflake !
@@PotionsMaster666 i dont think you understood what i meant. Because if you want to make an element you would need an element with less protons than your desired product. You would then have to shoot additional protons into it so that for example boron (5 protons) turns into carbon (6 protons)
i used to try to build stuff in the woods when i was around ten years old. i wasnt very good, but i didnt read any books or anything on traps and such. i just remember how much i truly enjoyed being in the woods and making stuff from nature. i cant imagine the satisfaction this man feels.
Every survival video has the same comment section:
"he could survive an apocalypse"
"I did _____ in minecraft"
"I bet in his next vid he's going to build a computer from scratch"
"I could do that too if I lived near the wild."
True
There's so few original people in the youtube comments. It's always the same lame ass stolen jokes from either reddit or other popular comments. YT comments are the best example of empty internet theory lmfao
@Venu Ganga theoretically yeah, but you'd either need knowledge on gunsmithing or at least a way to learn
@Venu Ganga yeah, there are real life examples of prisoners creating simple guns/weapons from everyday commodities, its pretty insane
Best comment yet hands down
It’s like watching a live action dr stone
but much worse
The hell. Dr. Stone is trash. Please don't show this name again..
@@DBT1007 Ding, dong your opinion is wrong.
@@DBT1007 I guess it's not for everyone. For example: mental disabled people wouldn't find it so entertaining.
Especially when he starts pumping air into his makeshift furnace :D
And since I started watching that show, I've been wondering why is making shoes not a priority in these channels XD
It was an impressive big bloom you made!
With that, it's not steel yet, just relatively soft iron.
You also need an assistant ...
It's a bloom, once he hammers the living hell out of it it'll become wrought iron. Which is ~0,1% carbon away from steel. It's really soft right now because of all the slag an unrefined bloom has inside of it.
@AshMontgomery I didn't know that. How would he go about getting rid of the silica, if he wished?
I’m not big brain enough to say anything, so I’ll just watch.
@@paracovo pig iron blooms are high in carbon, it needs to be refined by remelting in a puddling furnace and separated manually before you have wrought.
@@zackshrigley Thanks. Any idea how this could be accomplished using primitive tech?
He is not making steel but pig iron. To turn pig iron into steel will take some more refining process further.
Anyway, his ability to do it is fantastic . Congratulations brave primitive hard working man ! Greetings from Brasil.
I dont know anything about it, but I thought it being mixed right in with the coal would give it the carbon mixture that forms steel? What else is done to make traditional steel?
@angrydingus It likely fairly low carbon, wrought iron (not pig iron). It's a process called bloomery steel, and can produce widely varying products, and widely varying carbon content. The main issue is all the slag that is mixed within the bloom takes extensive processing to make something useable. And usually that just means spreading the slag/inclusions around as uniformly as possible.
It can yield quality steel final product though, for certain. Depending on the technique and time put into it. Certainly useable steel, it was used through history before more advanced procedures were developed- blast furnaces etc.
@@zakpodo Awesome thanks for the info. Gives me something more to look into.
hes right, steel has a carbon content below 2,06%, everything above is called cast iron. this is called pig iron and needs further refining like removing the carbon content with oxygen (or back in the days with regular atmospheric air, which contains a lot of nitrogen so it is not so great), and desulfurization (sulfur creates lots of impurities after the casting process). also a good slag is needed to reduce Si, Mn.
but technically, if he brings the carbon down below 2,06%.. it is considered steel, not a good quality but basic steel. :)
@@KGKolibri Bloomery steel was mostly lower carbon iron, like I said, not pig iron. And so is the product in the video. It is not impossible to create high carbon iron in a bloomery procedure, but it's atypical. That said, it produces iron with a range of content, not usually mixed evenly.
See below for sources.
www.researchgate.net/publication/282956457_Mechanical_Properties_of_Medieval_Bloomery_Iron_Materials_-_Comparative_Tensile_and_Charpy-tests_on_Bloomery_Iron_Samples_and_S235JRG2
exarc.net/issue-2013-2/ea/production-high-carbon-steel-directly-bloomery-process-theoretical-bases-and-metallographic-analyses
Or search bloomery in wiki.
i dont know about the comments saying its fake... but back in the days, ppl made metals without heavy machineries. so this is a good video for insights to me. thank you
The look on his face will be priceless when he finds out all he needs is 8 cobblestone and a piece of coal
*laughs in runescape*
That makes refined iron. There’s no such thing as “steel”.
Unless you use mods.
Imagine if he Updates to 1.12 and discovers the Blast Furnace
... are you referring to IC2
@@inferior2884 minecraft my boy
Can't wait till he starts building his quantum computer
Quantum my ass cheeks. What a pseudo overly used word. It's like dividing by zero a d bending a shadow. B S
@@franksigwart9777 Can you elaborate?
@@guzzodavenport3263 yes, Aether physics. End of discussion. And I mean it.
@@franksigwart9777 What do you mean by "Quantum my ass cheeks"?
@@franksigwart9777 quantum computers are an actual thing. It works with particles in superposition, using qubits.
Plenty of documentation out there. Maybe try searching around.
It seems to me that the title of the video is wrong. This man first extracted iron oxide from the rocks (the reddish earth) and then that "black rock" that he obtained from the furnace is neither iron nor much less steel... but it is iron slag. This iron slag needs to be further refined so that iron can be melted from this iron slag and with molds to create real iron objects such as swords, for example. Steel is something much more refined than iron and to create it you need to reach temperatures much higher than the temperatures that a simple clay or clay oven can reach (a clay oven with these methods cannot reach much beyond a thousand degrees centigrade). The title of this video should be something like "Making iron from rocks", although in this video it is missing that this man melted that iron slag to form an iron ingot or, better yet, an iron sword. I greet you from Uruguay.
Uruguay nomá
@@RMF1986
Vamo' arriba! ;D
At the end of the day, he ended up with a hunk of low quality iron requiring a lot more processing, but *WHOA! That was really cool!* There was a lot of effort, hard work and planing necessary to put this thing together. Impressive. I would love to see them process that raw iron into something cool. Perhaps, they've already have and have already released a video.
How do you process it further?
@@cowmoo5596 flattening and folding the metal several times will remove most of the inclusions.
he wasted soo much effort for no reason though. It's laughable. It ended up with a lump of iron, not even steel. :D
@@hawkintelligence Not a complete waste of time. He does have over 1M subscribers for making videos about making mud pies.
@@joecaner yeah, because he used SEO tools and if you actually look at the sub list, he bought them. lmao. But still, the foundation of the comment. Native people never wasted steps. It was about survival. Not breaking and using useless objects for servicing or creating. It's useful for a modern age "skill set" for primitive objectives. But back in the day, no one used this and no one was this wasteful while doing so.
The man who never gets tired, ladies and gentlemen
All the exercises this mans getting, be just be jacked!
Well since he is working the muscles he actually needs to do all this and not just building show muscles he should be stronger than a ripped dude. Plus he working really efficiently.
That's impressive that you were actually able to get it to melt. This is much better than any primitive furnace I've seen on UA-cam
The bellows is key
The bellows move around a lot of air.
Primitive Technology was able to get some little metal slugs from an ash iron muck concoction he made but he hasn't not made a follow up video on it yet. Most channels though definitely don't do things this in debth with stuff they actually get from nature, most seem to have a little cheating involved.
It does not melt. It is a chemical reaction between the iron oxide and the carbon in the forge, it reduces the iron oxide to pure iron, which will never melt at the temperatures he reached. Once he got the bloom out it wasn't even really at forge welding temps.
@@Sgtassburgler interesting. I thought that it didn't really look like it got hot enough. He's gonna need a much bigger furnace running on a water wheel powered blower to melt steel
You should make a semi-automated grinding stone from the water
That trickle of water would have the power of a hamster wheel.
Do you mean one with an Pedal
098gjt6 yes . He has water source , it’s more fun to see if he make a lot stuff using water power
@@garyvigue agree but this is still less a pain than grinding it by hand
But before that, he need to make some iron bushing, or else the water powered machines won't last very long, and the screeching sound of wood rubbing together will make his ears bleed.
This guy and primitive technology are the only two primitive channels I have respect for cause they respect the land and what they do is out of necessity not some stupid underground swimming pool and destroy the rainforest
This guy is asian, its all mostly faked off camera. Only primitive technology is real channel because he is white.
2:24 frog: *you will rue the day you disturbed my peace!!!*
Primitive Skills: stick
I read that with an English accent. Lol
Alright ive been thinking. When life gives you lemons. Dont make lemonade. Make life take the lemons back! Get mad! ‘I don’t want your damn lemons! What am i supposed to do with these!? DEMAND to see lifes MANAGER! Make life rue the day it thought it could give CAVE JOHNSON Lemons! DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM?! I AM THE MAN WHOS GONNA BURN YOUR HOUSE DOWN! WITH THE LEMONS! IM GOING TO GET MY ENGINEERS TO INVENT A COMBUSTIBLE LEMON THAT BURNS YOUR HOUSE DOWN!’
You are a smart person, I believe you will do the hammer first. It will be very helpful. Wish success!
9:30
Red-brown = Fe2O3
Dark grey = MnO2/FeO
Ilaria Alexyos 200 iq
Looks like limonite to me. FeO(OH) with some water (H2O) in the structure. That explains why he processes it like limonite as well, the first heating removes the water from the structure.
@@bujtorm FeO has a dark grey color, Fe2O3 has a red-brown color.
After the first thermic treatment, there are red-brown material and darkgrey, but, in a lot of cases when there is FeO and Fe2O3 there is also MnO2.
And MnO2 has a dark grey color, very similar to FeO.
Ps. in my first comment i written the timestamp 9:30.
@@mahjarataei You have nothing to give but sarcasm?
Ilaria Alexyos what do you mean lol? I actually found it a smart comment and I said it in a funny way, why do you have to take it so seriously?
The creepers at night must be scary asf with 5k like that
@Peely stfu
Mr. Oregano Stfu
@@politefahrenheit8546 stfu
@@numedeutilizator0043 Silence will fall.
Hi
Makes yo appreciate the ingenuity of our ancestors. Impressive!
*ingenuity*
I love the contrast between "primitive skills" and 4K footage. :P
First project: steel toed sandals.
Civilization was built on the labor of man. This is why steel swords and tools were so valuable.
And only available after the industrial revolution.
Monsieur Longbow no it wasn’t
for a second i thoguht this was primitive technology and was so confused when it was a different person
Both channels are great
are they affiliated ? or do we have a thief!!!???
Jesse Bower he’s taken the primitive technology format but he’s high up the tech tree so he’s not a copycat
John Plant ensured that his channel is distinct.
yeah Primitive Technology does not mind if other people use his name to promote said tech. That guy is cool af and is the original Primitive Technology. This guy here we are watching is also really good
That iron ore he seems to be using looks to be limonite, a pseudomorph of pyrite that has had its molecular structure hydrated due to being exposed to the elements for a while, but still retains its crystalline structure hence is why it may also come in forms of cuboids.
That explains the moss growing on it.
I think I know this guy. He used to live next door to me. I couldn’t figure out what he was doing until I looked out one morning and he had built a Volkswagen.
He knows when to do, how to do, what to do
He is legend
Val Page but how.. it's because of editing?
@@sudiptochakma3351 according to Val Page we should trust random people that are so good at hating people instead of making progress in their life
ImranNajmi hahahaha..Good one
Outstanding! I also recognize getting this far was incredibly labor intensive and yet there's so much left to do... have you considered making a forge with a tap or a plate so you can get the bloom out without breaking the whole thing down? If it was a replaceable plug then later you could use it as a forge; tip your bellows on end and rig a lever and a counterweight for it so you can just stand there and waggle up and down on the weight to pump the fire up while you're forging out some wrought iron and making a set of tools to make even better things.
You are INCREDIBLY lucky to be where you can just roam around and find decent ore... dig around a little and you might end up doing some copper or silversmithing :)
P.S. are you familiar with a bit of tech called a trompe? No moving parts, just water, and you get compressed air...
Can you link to this tromple technology? I could not find.
@@ded_Fedor en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trompe should get you there.
@@mfree80286 thank you very much!
How does the trompe work or how do you make it ?
*Turns on captions*
"Oh wait wrong channel."
Its not steel....you have made cast iron with a lot of excess carbon in it. You have to oxidise cast iron to make steel.
After the video by Sunnyv2 I can't tell if this is real or not
I was so happy to see that giant hammer, this guy's ready to smith. Out of all the primitive channels, your's is the one that excites me the most.
If you did this all by yourself, you can be very proud of this. Good job!
*Mom walks in to the little camp*
Me: GET OUT OF MY ROOM “IM PLAYING MINECRAFT”
*of my room mom
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Lance and Emerald used to, one of the OGs playing 1.5.2
@Lance and Emerald I think most people here play minecraft and that's why they're here, because they want to take Minecraft in VR to the next level by dropping the "virtual" aspect completely
Looks like tamahagane
2:22 "Frog! :)"
2:24 "DON'T HITTING HIM! >:("
It’s a toad not frog
@@hassuntzu6523 p h r ö g
This reminds me of an episode of Man at Arms: Reforged when they made the katana from Kill Bill from scratch, making the tamahagane and shingane from bloomery steel with a furnace just like that (albeit gas fired rather than using bellows).... Cool video!!
One of their best episodes.
"There never was a good knife made of bad steel."
-Benjamin Franklin
Are you saying this steel is bad?
@@LeeHill66 It's the quote associated with metallurgy in Civilization 5.
A bad knife is better than no knife.
@@william731 "To put faith in a broken sword is worse than no sword at all."
@@ONIscrooge "To use quotes appearing as if I am smart, makes me look like a clown" - Albert Einstein
Civilization could come crashing down and this guy would be eating with his own handmade steel forks and living good.
Good you say? What about toilet paper?
@@wtfbbqpwnzercopter You are not living the good life unless you wipe with steel reinforced toilet paper.
@@wtfbbqpwnzercopter you aint never had to wipe your ass with leaves have ya?
wtfbbqpwnzercopter he’s got a river nearby right? Natures bede
@@The_Ninedalorian Leaves and my bare hand. I know how to ask for a frankish style toilet in a few languages. Worst toilet I ever saw was at a bus stop in Turkey. It was like that scene in Trainspotting. This is my point though, civilization to me is a nice quiet squat. Without having to consider what's crawling on my leg or how many days I have to wash my left hand before I can eat with it again.
So I'm guessing a hammer, a knife, and maybe tongs for the upcoming tools.
Madoch Jamroch i dont think tongs are needed. Just a good forging hammer and then use it to forge thinks like larger axe heads and maybe even a pick axe would be cool
Drowseh personally i think he is going to be forging a large knife or small machete. It would be far more useful for his environment and besides, he already has an axe.
@@gravygamingza7323 u can never have enough axes if they are handmade xd
GravyGaming ZA
A hammer...
Videos like these save my life every day
As primitive as it is, I am amazed the Native American tribes of N. America never discovered metallurgy on their own.
I'd love to see you send a chunk like this to Alec Steele and have him forge it into something... that would be so very cool to watch.
was thinking the same thing lol
Bro me to
He's on his way to craft Full Iron armor, and even an Iron Golem.
This is so much faster on WOW
@@oscaralarcon6187 Imagine his joy if he learns how to make an Iron Farm
@@boid9761 it's still cool to watch him do this. I know that I would now have the patience though. I woulf have gave up after cutting that wood with that little axe!
5:49 nice sound
Thanks
Thank you for your feedback, wish you and your family good health.
Really knows chemistry of metals today.
Thanks.
Love your videos, but that needs a lot of refining during the forging process, but I guess you know that. It's great having you back posting videos again.
He needs to get that shit to forge welding temps or it is all just going to split apart.
@@Sgtassburgler Yes, you could see when he was grinding it, bits of slag and junk metal were just crumbling off. It needs a lot of work and he needs to build a nice hot forge.... but, he did a good thorough job to get where he did. Best primitive youtube iron furnace I've seen.
frog: is just vibin
this dude: YEET
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Great video, thank you! I would love to see you refine this further and cast into a tool or maybe a hammer to improve the efficiency of the process! Also would be interested in seeing trash metal refined in this way. Great idea and wonderful channel, ignore those who can't appreciate, they talk a lot, but those who are wise say little. I took it upon myself to go to this length as the comments seem dull and unappreciated. I wanted you to know your appreciated!! Thank you!!!
2:17 little frog was living in a castle of iron, till god came and stole it from him
Exceptional🔥🔥🔥 👍
Next video: how to defeat the Ender Dragon
nice one, now he can make him self some safety boots.
Yea, I saw the ax with the bare feet too. Yikes...
This guy made sandals and never used them I doubt it
6:03 man, the echo!
Yes, noticed it as well. Absolutely love such sounds.
My dude broke the goddamn sound barrier with that hit
Impressive and satisfying. Really shows just how much effort it takes - we take a lot for granted these days. Thanks.
Yes. I agree. That echo during the log splitting was very cool.
Your videos made me realize I'd die if I was stranded in the wild.
I mean if you are stranded in the wild all you have to do is make a fire and keep it going. People will see the flames and call 911 and they will find you. Unless you are on an island good luck
This isn’t that hard to do, I do this in Skyrim everyday
Primitive Skills used to be an adventurer like you but then he took an arrow in the knee
if got iron ore lay around. do same thing rock got no ore did all this for nothing.
@@The_NinedalorianToo funny. I just started up Skyrim VR on Occulus.
your dumb
i know right|?
You should rebuild the furnace and re-melt the bloom to purify it.
That is not how it works at all.
that wouldn't do anything, the bloom can't get any more "refined" than it is, re-firing it will just add more slag mass. The proper procedure at that stage is to completely flatten the bloom into a workable piece, consolidating all the bits of metal in it. He can't really do much with that large of a bloom without proper tools. It would best for him to do another run with a smaller bloom, and make a small hammer and tongs from that with which he can more finely craft other tools.
I suspect that that piece is going to be an anvil. Will make it a lot easier to craft the other tools you are talking about. It is also the easiest piece of the blacksmith toolkit to create.
One of the most interesting videos i've ever seen. The correct way to use UA-cam
Is that stainless or cro-moly?
this dude watched dr stone i think
He need build a smartphone. And a cola
No dude. Dr Stone watched him.
He's been at this longer than Dr Stone and on the contrary might even have been an inspiration to the series.
@@is-ig4zh
no, dr stone should watch him.
Senku*s way of making iron is fictional and if you would try his way of making iron or steel, you will fail.
@@nextlifeonearth anime is based on something called manga but ok
Nice job man. You're in the iron age!
I was thinking you should get a pal help you out sometime. So many things you do seem like two man jobs.
Honestly cant imagine disliking these videos. Love your content, cant wait to see more!
This guy has way too fancy stuff, primitive technology is the OG.
Primarive 8nm semiconductors next week.
6:00 he one shot that log
Ни хуя не понял для чего он это делал, но очень интересно.
One of this days this guy will build an arc reactor.
*arc
With a vase of scrap material from previous projects, in a cave
This is quite amazing. Can someone explain though how this is different from the iron making process? It seems that the flue stack is higher giving the iron more time to carbonize whereas the iron had a shorter stack making it more rough and ready iron. Is this correct or are there nuances I'm missing? Either way, this vid is absolutely incredible. Making seemingly advanced life-changing raw material from mud-hut level techniques.
I'm not sure how high a temperature the bloomery in the video achieved or how long the ore was heated, but I think it technically produced a mixture of slag and iron called a bloom. Working the bloom with the hammer drives more of the slag out of the mass, making it wrought iron. To your question, it might be a small semantic difference; some of the iron must be absorbing carbon, so some "high quality" steel probably exists in the bloom but not a substantial amount in the final billet.
These videos hit different at 6am
2:24 This frog is just casually watching his home be destroyed.
I am work in iron ore mine....I like this vlog
how much ton of Ore does the mine dig out each day please?
@@utubeape In one of the mines I work at regularly they get roughly 75000 tons in 24h. So not really the same thing as a dude collecting rocks, but you can still enjoy the process.
That ore is huge, nicely done again.
We have balls of Ore like this that are much larger and concentrated, I found this video researching my findings. What a great channel and now I can learn about Ore all over my area!
I don't know why I got addicted to stone age now... ♥ 🔥
Homeboy’s making steel. Puts him in the late Iron Age.
Because that where we came from and it's probably still in our DNA.
Dr Stone
What an inspiration that clever man is. he does not need to work to pay some one else to build, he just does it all himself.
One of the best UA-cam channel there is
I love that you went through the process of roasting the ore - most "primitive smelting" videos don't do that and they always get much less iron than they could than if they had roasted the ore.
its extremely inefficient but satisfying to watch and a very interesting process
thank you for the entertainment 👍
6:18 those logs legit sounded like gunshots when they were getting split by the axe.
Glad to see at least one spin off channel that seems honest with its work, i see no problem with this. Great work!
Amazing work👍👍👍
Imagine having to destroy your furnace every time you cook a pizza
Wait, you found a way to cook pizza without doing that?
I got hired and fired from a Pizza Hut today.
Please buff the clay furnace durability
Imagine this is how 'this old Tony' started out.
I'm impressed you even got that far. It's very interesting so I hope there will be more parts of this?
My man out here thriving
This should be called ADVANCED primitive if primitive at all. Iron smelting is a product of civilization.