From Rock to Copper Metal
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- Опубліковано 27 тра 2024
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I collect copper ore from an abandoned mine in California and extract the copper metal out of it through electrowinning.
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Today, getting what you need is as easy as a trip to the store. From food to clothing, energy, medicine, and so much more, Andy George will discover what it takes to make everything from scratch. His mission is to understand the complex processes of manufacturing that is often taken for granted and do it all himself. Each week he’s traveling the world to bypass the modern supply chain in order to harvest raw materials straight from the source. Along the way, he’s answering the questions you never thought to ask.
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Can you imagine what it was like in this world _before_ the first intentional copper smelt? I've heard it theorised that the first smelter/ blacksmith would probably have started their career by cleaning out the ash from "last night's" fire and noticing that there was a very hard, somewhat malleable and likely shiny (dull lustre) lump of "stuff" in the pile of ash. They probably then uttered the rallying cry of every scientist throughout the ages: "That's odd..."
You put it so well...
Haha
i can understand a simpel man finding pretty green stone's and than just for the heck of it toss in the fire and watch if it does anything
@@t84t748748t6”whadaya know, I’ve discovered copper” 😅
Take it easy fruitcake.😂
@@t84t748748t6 More likely is that they used large stones to surround the fire (sometimes dropping them into the hot embers). Some would contain those precious metals.
How did the ancient humans actually started metalworking? "Look at these green rock Bob, I bet if we crush half a ton of them, put them in pee, wait until thunder hits it, wait until water evaporate, go to volcano and melt the powder we can make a great arrowhead of it." - "Sure thing Jeff, i thought about it too!"
They discovered fire before metal working
bobby ruest they had crude versions of clay furnaces
@bobby ruest coal burns at up to 2000°C not 1100 which is more than enough to melt copper
Trial and error. They didn't have the knowledge that we have today because they were the ones making the discoveries, but they do have our same level of intelligence. The natural environment is what they had to work with, so they had plenty of experience and knew that doing different things occasionally results in amazing results. We can assume that some of them were *very* intelligent, akin to our best thinkers today, and probably led the way in terms of advancements like smelting, toolmaking, etc.
@bobby ruest you don't know what your talking about you are right on one thing tho char coal thats wood coal burns at about a 1000 but there are other coals and the rest you just said is incorrect
"Scratch" must be some really awesome stuff. It seems to be the raw ingredient for just about everything. I mean, like, EVERYTHING!!
The new minecraft update looks incredible
yes
NOBODY EXPECTS THE SPANISH INQUISITION
The Spanish Inquisition what’s your main weapon?
Guillotine 👍
The Spanish Inquisition wrong it should be fear, fear and surprise TWO! Your two main weapons are fear surprise and an almost ruthless efficiency THREE! Your three main weapons are fear surprise ruthless efficiency and an almost fanatical devotion to the pope oh DAM
Man, that rock dude's hair was majestic.
I came here to look for a comment about that guys hair
lol wtf is with his hair
You look pretty rocky yourself, though...!
a teacher of mine has the same hairdo xD
Like a peacock?
As an experienced rock hunter: Always stay together, wear a hardhat when there is any chance of anything falling on your head (ALWAYS) and don't go into abandoned mines and start digging.
Artisankat Studios I’ve just started watching this guy and I’m stunned why he doesn’t bother buying a hard hat.
Well... he got one of those right.
How did they smelt it back in the day?
@@WowYaska Probably very badly, with a lot of zinc smoke. Hopefully they new to stay out of the direction the smoke was blowing. It's possible to die from just 1 period of smelting if you inhale it :/ They would make a furnace of clay and a probably a clay crucible.
@@WowYaska They would melt it, in a forge, pour off the dross, or knock it off with a rock hammer, then melt it again, knock it off, and again,and it gradually emerged purified. I have done this myself.
WOW! I've held plenty of pieces of Malachite and Azurite in my hands over the years... but to see them occurring in the field in the form of huge blue cliffs is quite amazing.
It’s green, not blue.
You say the copper age was a "brief period" from roughly 5000 to 3000 BC, that's about the same ammount of time as it is between the foundation of the Roman empire and now
And yet it is a brief period of time.
Bronze age 5000 - 1100 (bc) Egyptian, Minoic, Assirus, Ittity, all these Cultures are from that age.
Brief - primarily coz the Global popular Historical Education system almost NEVER mentions Copper Age. Almost. Thus, brief.
Compared to the time scales he is referring to, yes. It is a brief period. Do you folks really not get context?
All of human history is just a mere blink in comparison to the cosmic timescale
"Alright guys, today I'm gonna show you how to make a muffin pan. It's completely unrelated to me being shouted at by my mom for ruining her muffin pan..."
lol
Lmao
Jonny2myren sounds like Cody from codyslab
Spit my beer all over my iPad
Thank you
You're getting so much better at producing those materials! Keep up the good work. Always looking forward you your videos!
I was going to comment the same thing. Also, I can't believe this channel hasn't hit a million yet. Soon..
@sheldon pereira the thing with copper is that it turns green as it oxidize so finding red copper on the surface might not be possible. He could easily go into the plastic age and make a plastic camera.
This video would be even more interesting if you explored low tech methods to extract the copper or even if you discussed how you think they may have done it. They didn't have a science lab to make their copper tools. ;)
Who is "they" here
@@tonylee1667 the bois
@@tonylee1667 primitive people
Andy: **spends 535 dollars to get some copper**
**gets 2.50$ back from the ore**
*STONKS*
And after the video youtube gave him alot of money!
Mohit Kumar STONKS
U could say its STANKS
The Spanish Inquisition
I wasnt expecting you
SKONKS
More interested in how they did it 2000 years ago
DEFINITELY! That's what I thought the video was going to show!
aliens
@@YskarAlbumLuna Errr...No.
lol it could be tho, there's a lot of possibilities, we'll know someday i guess. I try to keep my mind open to anything.
@@YskarAlbumLuna No, because mankind did do it 2000 years ago! So good luck with that then...
so the cavemen just found some batteries and sulfuric acid
How did they make the first computer and remember you have to have a computer to program a computer
All the technology we have is very advanced actually and was no easy task
Brutha
Isis Dean search up alan turing
I am pretty sure they simply used much purer copper and/ or used other, most likely less efficent, extraction methods. Note that he says that he uses "the best way" and not the way of caveman.
You need to use a mask to handle grinding of the silica! To anyone who reads this, please use protective gear for your lungs when grinding!!
Yeah, you don't want to get silicosis, or dust pneumonia
Thanks mom
“My mom is going to be so mad when she sees what I did to her muffin pan!”
🤣🤣🤣
So glad your getting a more sizable amount it makes the end result a lot cooler
What makes that copper muffin even cooler is water
The bucket animation was just adorable. Love it.
Just discovered your series and love it. Excellent job, please keep at it.
Cayotes, rattlesnakes... Big deal.
In Norway we've got sheep!!
Lol
In Florida we have everything it’s scary
Do your sheep have pointy teeth? Be very afraid.
@@ace127 Yeah, I heard horror stories about those swamp kitties. What was the other name for them. Oh right, Alligators.
Pssshwwwaahhh ... here in South Africa we have baboons that can come into our houses... And lions, elephants, zebras, rhinos, Eiland buck and many more in nature reserves.. lol and sheep and domestic livestock
. Lol
"OOO ITS SHINY" - a big part of human history, tbh
Great job!! So much more organized and clean than usual. No big messes
Process is so refinary and firmed. Thank You.
If snakes are on your mind, stomp heavily around where you intend to work, the stomping will alert snakes as to something to big to eat approaches, the snake will either haul butt or sound off alerting you, so you can take safe steps. PEACE
Great advice, thank you~
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Awesome! I love that you are willing to explore the entire process from beginning to end. We all take this stuff for granted, but you show us how hard it is to do on a diy scale. Thanks for sharing your journey of exploration with us.
I have a land area of copper etc just message me
When I saw the dude who took a look at your rocks, all I could think for the rest of the video was "Now that's commitment to one's hairdo"
Guy on Ancient Aliens has weird hairdo
Guy who collects copper rocks has weird hairdo.
CONFIRMED metalsmithing is ancient alien technology!
He must have a duel against Yugi later
I had to read to the comments until I found one on his hairdo!
It doesn't matter how much it costs, it's just can you refine it or not. You have proved that you can.
AWESOME 😎👍👍
The adventure made your smelting of copper, priceless. And made you awesome indeed for sharing this great video. Keep up the good work. Sincerely Tom Weidler in Las Vegas Nevada
You need to somehow assess the purity of your ‘muffin’... maybe send it to Cody and get him to use his X-ray spectrometer on it?
He can asssume its pure enough for his purposes. He isnt looking for pure copper, he is looking for a workable metal. It just so happens copper is one of the easiest to extract.
X-ray florescence isn't exactly a highly accurate method of assay. It will give you roughly what's in a sample and a very rough approximation of the ratios, but it should never, ever be used to determine purity. At the very least you need a gas chromatograph for that. The X-ray guns are a quick and dirty SWAG.
Well the quickest way is to just compare densities. What else would be in there? Sulfur, lead, iron/carbon (steel), and whatever was in the original ore. Silicates? I don't know.
It would probably be lighter than pure copper, but maybe not. Anyway, pretty easy to do a quick and dirty density test.
@@Prometheus720 that would be like the worst purity test lol
@@zombesn that would be like the purity tests the ancients knew to do. It would be a start. That's also why Andy pulled off the slag from the top when it was melted, though the pour looked like it might have had a chunk of impurities on the bottom.
Not sure if analytics tell you what parts were watched or what point they watched until but I hope you know that putting your ads at the beginning and splitting them into two parts doesn't stop me from skipping them.
Fashy Dream Girl 😂
Really interesting,thanks for showing the whole mechanics of doing the process
That was a great looking mine you all went to ! Wow a lot of wonderful color ! Nice job recovering some copper , keep up the nice work on maken videos !
From stick to Ak47
It won't be too long before he's making a Nuke. Or a Space Station.
stick wins
"Today I show you how you can make a teleporter from scratch."
Why should the end point be an assault weapon? What about something benevolent, like from stick to EKG?
+Evan Barnes Because guns are cool
It's always really cool to see you going from not knowing what you're doing to mostly knowing what you're doing, even if your methods (mostly airplane tickets) aren't very cost effective ;) Love your videos, keep em up
Really enjoying this video series
Mining is a passion, good to see something worthy watching! Thank u from a miner from Pakistan
From coal to diamond next
Eyy kremit, I luv u
Yes please!
Not possible. Coal and diamonds are are made from the same base material but are created by two completely different processes. One cannot form the other.
Coal also has too many impurities to be compressed into diamond. Graphite though, TECHNICALLY possible, but with billion dollar equipment.
That puts a lot of pressure on him
So you found a plane ticket to and from, a car rental, and accounted for your time at min wage and only spent 535 dollars? You needa share your travel agent with me.
anyone else notice that youtubers get paid to make the most wasteful videos?
American Engineering so do tv shows
yeah. why are people so interested in junk.
American Engineering I don't think that this is a wasteful video. I don't think I'm the only person who finds these videos highly educational while still being interesting.
how do u plan to use this knowledge that this video has educated u with?
Man, 5 minutes in and this video made me miss Ft. Irwin. I used to sleep in my snake and scorpion proof (ie zipped completely up) sleeping bag.. with my discman.. on rocks throughout those wadies. OPFOR was pretty fun back in the day.. I miss that place.. and time.. not the 145° quite as much.. but even that made one feel alive.. close to death.. but alive.. thanks for bringing back to the fore!
First timer to this channel ever and I must say that I liked this video quite a bit. The challenging content and plan you set out when making this video is both interesting and engaging the way you filmed it. I must admit I have always wondered just how one would find a metal and then separate from rock to pour into a pure metal tool mould. Copper being a semi valuable metal, depending on how much you can find and use is a fantastic choice for this video. Anyways well done and I think I am even going to subscribe in case your other videos are just as interesting as this one is!
Need to see the more primitive way, you know just incase of time travel
check out the primitive channels such as survival skill primitive.
This was a really good video, the flow of the scenes and ideas was great and the information was quite interesting. Just a side note another way to extract the copper is by adding bicarbonate of soda after the copper is dissolved, you can then filter out the copper carbonate and just melt it down much faster but just not as pure
Thank you so much for showing this. Very informative.
Extracting and smelting metals is so fascinating. So many people today learn about the past and just hear about each "age" not knowing how it was done. The Periodic Table of Elements Coloring Book is mine. I wish I had known about this channel before I wrote it.
GET IN TO THE COPPER!
XD
Scrap dat shit homeboy
*Get to the.....
GET TO THE COPPER. Zum Kupfer gehen
Ruined the quote.
"I wasn't talking to you, Alexa!" 😂😂😂
Excellent video.
Nice work!
I want you to know that the Tuskin Raider reference did not go unappreciated. 5:05
Congrats on 900k!
U love this channel I watch this over Netflix keep this up
Awesome video. Great way for kids to learn. Thanks
I've just discovered your channel; it's terrific and I've subscribed, thank you!
"So many holes, I don’t know which one to go into”. Yeap, thats what he said.
my thoughts exactly
Me reading a fucked up hentai
5:30 "I am worried about snakes"
I would be more concerned about finding a mountain lion in their.
there*
The lions would make themselves very known. They don't tend to attack groups so there is that at least.
@@Ontarianmm I live in the middle of nowhere and yes.. they make themselves known
...very known..
Woke up at 2:43 am to hear what sounded like a messed up speaker.
That rock dude was really ROCKing his hairstyle
You are among the most valuable people of the world. Awesome!
Very inspiring. It's amazing that early man figured these things out in the first place. I thought copper and iron extraction was 'round about' until I read about Titanium. ... not only things like metals, but look up how chocolate came about and what a complex process it actually is. Who was smoking what when someone said " ... let's make some chocolate".?
Copper
Made: $2.50
Spent: $550
Video
Made: $1,500
Spent: $0
A lot of work hours go into creating a video as well.Definitely not a 0$ spent case.
Stonks
Travel expense,gas, and other things come into play as well
For most of the video I was thinking I'd like to see the ancient method of making it, but at the end you say that you'll demonstrate that in the future. So I'm glad about that. It'll be interesting to have seen both.
What a brilliant video, loved it
Man it’s so cool! Your making it exactly like they used to make it! If they had all of those technologies you use like beakers, I love this series but I wish you did literally EVERYTHING from scratch, only using the tools you made yourself.
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They had electricity in prehistoric times?
That geologists hair though.
Terrifying
Greaser, billy
This is one of the coolest videos I have seen in a long time.
Awesome. Really gives you a sense of just how far we've come as a civilization. Materials that used to take hundreds of man-hours to produce are just dirt cheap now and taken for granted.
How did you make sulfuric acid?
Some auto parts stores sell it. There's a half dozen ways to make it from scratch, and it's basically ancient tech. It's also a good idea to make pH paper beforehand. Grow some red cabbage, extract the pigment onto slips of paper and voila.
@@chrisbalfour466 a fellow amateour chemist i see.
Burn sulphur in a vessel & bubble the evolved Sulphur Trioxide gas through water. It's a crude method & it generates a lot of heat.
S8 + 12O2 > 8SO3^
SO3 + H2O > H2SO4
Hydrogen Peroxide and Elemental Sulfur works, it's slow and need a closed container, Sulfur oxides are after all gases.
I know how to make it- many ways like pyrite and stuff-but I was wondering how they got it,and if they made it then why not record it
"Using accurate classical 9000BC techniques that our ancient human ancestors used to extract and purify the copper - one of the first metals our species ever purified.."
...uses a plastic bucket to collect the rocks, throws them into a 4x4 Off Road Jeep, drives home to electrically grind the ore into a pure sulphuric acid solution and connect to a battery and strain through coffee filters and sulphuric acid onto a metal muffin tray..
Uhhhmm... I spotted a mistake... Real accurate, except for the one anachronism where you are wearing a modern watch in this video.
Otherwise I would have been totally bought it.. I was fooled up until then!
I dont really get where he said "this is how they did it 3-5k years ago"
I know its a channel concept, but where does it say that?? I can only read in the description how he did it
@Please Complete All Fields He did certainly not use the same chemical process. Electricity hasn't been around that long, and while sulfuric acid was already discovered a very long time ago, it could not have been manufactured in the required amounts. Instead, they probably reduced the copper ores by repeatedly baking/smelting the ores in a furnace.
Yeah the fact this guy is using modern tools with modern knowledge and still has this much trouble working with metals is just... wow.
6,000 BC
@@entcraft44 He did if briefly explain why the modern refining methods: The modern ore is too low grade to use ancient methods designed for high grade ore.
GR8. Andy, that was fantastic. Chris- you need to pull your socks up!
Hey guys, I just found your channel here and I’m immediately subscribe started on the copper to rock copper metal which is four years old but I think what you guys are doing is phenomenal and I think I wish I could be doing that myself mine you looked like it was loaded I see that your yield wasn’t too bad but I think your show is fantastic and I hope that you are able to continue educating people on just how difficult it has been for us humans to move to where we are now from the basics 30 enjoyed this particular episode, and I shall work my way through all your others Excellent work well done and thank you, Nigel
*insert Minecraft joke about digging straight down here*
Was digging for some iron when broke some stone. To my surprise, the cave started to cave in around me. I rushed to put a torch on the ground and it saved me from the cave in. There was a lot of gravel.
Dude, the mine was a horizontal mine I believe
That dude must be smart lmao
@Creations and circuits You just haven't modded it my friend. Copper has been common in the modding community since like 2014
Make some medieval steel weaponry please
Just became a patron thanks for the great content keep it up
Very nice...very nice indeed. You had an idea...you went with....you made it happen. Cool,cool, cool. Love it.
smelting it is so much easier
They didn't have the right kind of raw material. With thin coatings of mineral, leaching is the most economical and fastest way. Otherwise you have to chip off all the little bits of mineral one rock at a time vs. soaking and dissolving mineral while you can use the time for other activities.
@@markbowling3859 cant you just scrape the slag/dross?
yeah I've seen some east asian dudes make some bronze age smelting with clay ovens and hand powered blowers to keep the wooden fire going. And they got almost all the copper just by crushing the rocks and just dumped it in to the oven. about 24h, and they already had drops of copper at the bottom of the oven. Then they took that and placed those in these stone cups that they reheated until they had them smelted. Overall no more than two days of work. This coating shit no doubt catches all the copper, but it too the guy a week or two to get the copper out.
You people have no idea who Jeff Williams is obviously. He’s smarter than most of anyone who comments on here
Whoever smelt it, dealt it
There was a huge copper "mine", in the Great Lakes, used by the Native Americans and early explorers. I don't know what the purity of the ore was, but it seemed to be a pretty popular place.
Whoa! Cool video! Thanks for the upload.
Geez, you have such beautiful ore rich places in US. I studied Geology in Germany and we never visited such places full of metal. I guess it is because in Germany the rock is empty, we got all we could get and they even started to reuse the waste rock from heaps to get all rest of usable metal out of it.
Sweden use to have a lot of copper mines, they once had their currency based on it. But I think in the USA they have hugh open pit mines in Arizona and places so there really is no need to play with these places. Just imagine the demand for copper shells in WWI, WWII.
I want to see you try to make a foot powered lathe. (Treadle lathe) It’s supposed to be a pretty simple design and it would be cool to see you attempt that
foot powered ball mill
3:38 Maaaaaaayyynnnn I feel like I'm in real life MINECRAFT!
Thank you very much. You worked so hard to teach us.
Thanks dear you helped me to remember what i have learned before a few years back.
This was another great video. I love your determination and how you explain the process of what you are doing in detail. Keep up the great work. It would be pretty cool if you could do more collaborations in the future. Perhaps you could do a collaboration with Nile Red?
That ingot of copper would have been extremely valuable in ancient times. It could be a short sword, a bunch of arrow heads, religious idol, symbol of status, a piece of armor, or a tool like a hatchet, shovel or farm hoe.
Yeah, labor was cheap, but materials were expensive. A lack of technology to harvest and process metals made acquisition slow and time consuming. Like the video said, ancient times would only mine from rocks rich in copper ore that were easier to extract.
There are UA-camrs that make everything from scratch. If I was one of them, copper would be extremely valuable. To me that's a big part of electronics. The furthest I've seen someone make it in their series is very small amounts of cast iron that they plan on making into a small knife😂
@@ricksmith1673 Are you really an "MD" and asking that question? Just the arrow heads could mean surviving or winning a battle, or three years worth of big game meat. Try reaching any major organs in a buck or wild pig...
Marcos Mota why the hell would you expect a doctor of medicine to be knowledgeable in all things ancient materials. Even something that is obvious in retrospect might be hard to realize by making that connection.
Cool video. Thanks for sharing
Probably the best Hardcore Ironman video in all of Runescape.
Is no one going to talk about that guys hair?
It's EPIC!
It was incredible!
He might be a bit of a stoner
Hell yeah bro Dave the rock guy used to be my history teacher back in high school I’m from that time. Give a guess to what car he drives
sadly every one is talking about his hair
your mom should be mad how you used that pick lol
Nice work. THank you.
13:12 "THE MUFFIN PAN" - lord farquaad probably
For the next metal extraction you might want to check out bioleaching. It's more cost effective with low purity ores.
wow, the "guy who knows rocks" had a serious hairstyle
It defied physics and explanation.
You are so fun!!!! ❤️ your videos!
Awesome, great job young man. I just subscribed.
THE MUFFIN PANS
Should be presprayed with PAM cooking spray.. 🏠
For your next attempt, you could try northern Michigan for copper ore, copper was a major export in the 1800’s
The Michigan mines produced pure copper sheets and lumps with no refining needed. Incredible
It’s called Copper Harbor for a reason. From what I understand, you can find small copper nuggets on the beach/shallows.
Well at least you got to take a nice hiking trip and smash some rocks. Cool video
Money well spent. Man’s curiosity is his reward.
"If I left you with a hatchet in the woods.. how long before you could send me an email?"
from plastic to c4
@MB294 Even though C-4 is called "plastique", it's not made from plastic.
@@hugehappygrin it was a joke
Very interesting! Great video.
OMG the rock store guy is a ROCKABILLY! Gotta respect that level of dedication to a pun.