Gary is amazing, what a good man, had an issue with my inverter, emaied him, he caled me and fixed the issue over the phone. Anytime you want a gift certificate for dinner Gary, say the word, thank you
Question, so when the batteries drops in voltage to the set point you have set. your saying it automatically switches to main or generator mode to recharge the batteries if you had one or the other to use, So in other words if I plug in my generator to the ac input on the inverter it will automatically switch the pv off and generator us on?
The short answer is yes, but it wont disconnect the panels. This unit is capable of charging your batteries using both panels and the AC to DC charger that is built into the charger. There is actually another setting that you can use to set the rate of charge while it is doing this. In order to turn the generator on, it relies on the dry contact, andthe setting that accompany that. The dry contacts are a low voltage relay that is capable of sending a signal to another relay that works with an Automatic Transfer Switch that can power the generator on and off. That is the condensed explaination. Soon, I will have a video out that describes how to set up the AIO controller using mains, and then further into the fiture I will have another video using a generator. Thanks for checking in!!!!
@@SolarBearDIY so what is the indicator that let's you know that the voltage is to low and its OK to fire up the generator. And Is this unit totally capable of running a window unit ac, TV and refrigerator? I'min the process of setting up this same unit with 1000watts of solar but I'll need to run a window ac unit, refrigerator, TV and normal stuff like that in my off grid cabin. Thats why I was wondering if you can run a generator through the inverter to run stuff in an off grid setup.
@@fjayw yes, I run a 10,000 BTU window mount aircon, and even my air compressor or skill saw at the same time with no problems. If you are starting the generator yourself, there are setting that allow you to run but the generator and the panels at the same time. There is a maximum AC bypass current load of 40 amps. So in the settings you can set the voltage parameter of the battery so that when it drops to a certain voltage, it bypasses the inverter and uses the mains power in fire an uninterrupted power supply (UPS).
Hey sorry to bug you again, so I'm setting up off grid like you were during this video using the same inverter, 3000w eco worthy 24v. My question is, there is a grounding screw on the bottom of the inverter, My breaker panel is ground with a grounding rod 8ft in the ground. The AC out only has the Line and the Nuetral connections. What is the grounding screw for and do in need it for my setup? If I need to use it do I run a ground wire from the ground screw to the grounding rail in my panel box or do I ground it to something else? I am reading the book but I'm stumped on the ground screw. Thanks@@SolarBearDIY
@@fjayw so, on this controller the AC is grounded directly to the chassis of the controller/inverter. It is ok to run a wire from this ground to your ground busbar that is connected to your earth ground. I actually recommend that, and that way all grounds will have the same reference. Some folks will argue that AC and DC should have separate grounds. Some folks run it like myself with one common ground that is connected to an earth ground. I hope that makes sense.
Hey there, so is the PV input voltage on the all in one display screen. Is that reading what the combined solar.panels are producing in volts? I hooked my four 250w panels up in series/parallel and my pv input reading is 58.0 volts coming into the inverter. The sticker on the back of each panel says 37.6 open current voltage. That seems off but im no expert. Man this stuff can get confusing
@@fjayw yes the AIO unit has a PV voltage display, and that can depend ok how you have panels linked together, and how much direct sun the are exposed to
Hi, when i keep clicking through the menu i have a few setting that arent in the manual. I believe 39 and 40. One has option from 0-254(i think) what is this? And the other a selction of codes. Csn you help with these hidden setting that sre available to look at but not in the manual? So i know which to select
@Tool_Shed_Talk I have Eco-Worthy 24v 3000w hybrid inverter. Same one under a different badge in this video. Strange how in the manual it skips from 31-35. I just want to know what those settings do
@matsz10 I believe they are options for another inverter model, but when they flash the chip those settings are probably not added for to compatibility and the option may not be available on this model
Hey there again, here's my current situation, I'm getting a max charge of 26.8v from the three 250w panels in series. When I watch a movie and run the ceiling fan and small frig, the voltage reaches 25.0v or maybe a bit lower at bed time, then I run a regular fan over night my inverter will ring the alarm in the wee hours of the morning due to low voltage, thoughts on that? so with that said im going to try the 2s2p on my four 250w panels to see if i get a better responce. My question is now and i may have asked you this already but i want to run a generator sometimes to top off my batteries before i go to bed. So even if the inverter has not reached the #4 setpoint and i start the generator manually will it just automatically switch to that power source to top off the batteries? Or do i need to change #1 or #6 settings on the inverter for that to happen? I have #1 set on sbu and #6 set on oso.
@@fjayw sorry for not getting back to you right away, but I've been super busy. Short answer is yes, you'll have to change the settings. I'll try to have the complete answer tomorrow. Are you on FB?
@@neilgrant706 yes indeed they should be double the value vs 24v parameters. That was a definite typo on my part, and I actually fixed that a while back when I was doing some troubleshoot for another guy. I forgot to add it to the description..
Thank you Gary. This is a great video. Unfortunately my charger inverter is not a clone of the series you discuss but it is a copy (even uses the same case). Are you familiar with the PowMr brand? I have the 3.6kw model in 24v. (POW-LVM3.6M-24V) It uses the same kind of display and identical menu structure but many of the settings are different numbers and it does not seem to have as many set points as the one you are using. I am astounded that these manuals don't give more detail on the functional operation (when they bulk charge, when they float and when they boost etc) Your video was a huge help validating my decisions of max charge voltage, min battery voltage and so on but still lots of questions to resolve. I would really like to know ALOT more about the function of the internal BMS in the ECO batteries too. I have 4 of the 280AH in 2S2P. Is there any wifi or other interfaces to read the internals on these batteries? I found you in the FB group I am Tim McRae on FB
i have a 48 volt lifpo system - all eco-worthy - 5000 watt invertor , 14.3 280 amp 4 battery, 2400 kw array and a invertor genertor which will be used manually when the fault indicates pv unavailable and batteries need to be charged. How important is a ground to earth?
Good question, remember that the job of the controller is to reduce and regulate voltage, in addition to other actions. So if your controller will regulate the voltage to 24v on a 24v system. 1400 watts/24 volts=58.33 amps. But they like to round up if they can.
Thanks for the video, i'm looking to buy one of these on facebook marketplace for a very good price. Does the switch on the bottom turn off the entire unit or just the power inverter? I would like to be able to turn off just the inverter to reduce quiescent power draw when i'm not using any appliances. Thanks
@@scellyyt The power switch turns off the entire unit, there is an Eco function that will turn the inverter off if there is no power draw detected. I'll confirm that when I get home. Thanks for checking in!
yeah not sure the issue might be the inverter changer or it doesn't like the generator(dirty power). I don't have mains to test if it's the inverter it worked with old set up looking to get a inverter generator and see if it will work just can't charge the battery using the generator for mains power
@@tsujehtekaj6 You might need to bond the ground on the inverter and the generator so the don't see each other as huge variances to each other and trip the GFI. This is really common in RV's and generators. Mike Sokol has made a couple of videos on how to bond them together (or unbond them as the case may be). I won't try and tell you how to do it because I have never had to do this myself and I don't remember the details, but is is common and the fix is easy and cheap. I am sure Gary can explain it better.
Hey its me again, so I have my #4 set at 21.6 and #5 set at 28.0. I have four 250w panels in series 1000w, and two 12.8 280wh in series. With that said when I turn the solar panel breaker on it show the red light and an error #9. Now when I take away one 250w panel to make 750w it works fine. #9 is set at 28.8.. I have no heavy loads right now. Any ideas?
@@SolarBearDIY this is the specs for each panel. Max power 250w Open circuit voltag 37.6 Voltage at Pmax 30.3 Short circuit current 8.85 amps Current at Pmax 8.27 amps Max system voltage 600 Fuse rating 15 amps
@@fjayw ok, so I just figured out your problem, this can be remedied to accommodate all four panels. This controller has a MPPT range of 60v to about 90v, with a Max open voltage of about 100v. When you connect your panels in series, the voltage adds up and exceeds 100v causing the error. The good news is that the safety mechanism is working, and your controller isn't damaged. Are you on FB?
@@fjayw in series yes, but you can do a 2s2p configuration with your panels, and be within voltage and amperage parameters. And my apologies, but this controller has an MPPT range that starts at 30v not 60v. So with the 2 series 2 parallel configuration you could easily have all 4 of your panels operating. That is the configuration I use, and my panels have about the same voltage parameters.
so i have the eco 5000 watt invertor - the same control screen you demoed. Thank you for that video. I have studied the manual and i cannot seem to find anything indication the number of watts my pv is producing. I see the number of volts which should be 19.8 x 12 = 238. It would be helpful to now the wattage since my panels are rated in watts. Same thing when i run my generator (i will ask you another question about that later). BTW, do you consult for a fee? I'm happy to pay you for your time. Thank you.
@@iplayer10 you should be able to email me through UA-cam, and then we can go from there. Another way is to join my Facebook page and we can use messenger. facebook.com/groups/417085394631550/?ref=share&mibextid=NSMWBT
@@dannylimbert9181 As long as you are in user mode, those will be the settings/parameters that you charge controller uses to charge your batteries. The monitor will default to sla because really the monitor doesn't know what type of battery you're using.
I have the Sungold all in one inverter. It's the same as this one. Can someone tell me why it never shows the solar panel icon? It there but never hi lighted.
@@SolarBearDIY I only had 4 100 w panels on it. I added two more panels this morning and now it shows the panels on the display. I thank you for replying. I do have another question. I also installed a combiner box. So the first 6 are all in the same line. What would you suggest I add as far as next panel upgrade?
@@jeffcrutchett7993 ah yes, so answering your other reply; it sounds like you did not have enough voltage from your panels to meet minimum voltage requirements to operate your controller. For your other question, you will want to keep your panels the same. That includes different strings of panels going to your combiner box. For example, if you have six panels connected in series. Going to one fuse in your combiner box, you would want another string with the same amount of panels in the same configuration going to your combiner box. Your combiner box at that point would connect them in parallel and your amperage would increase, and not your voltage. This is something to use caution with so that you don't exceed either your voltage requirements for your controller, or your amperage requirements for your controller and or wiring.
@@SolarBearDIY Thank you for your advice it means a lot to me that you took the time to help. So I guess next year I will be adding 6 more 100 watt panels. Once again thank you.
Eco worthy should give a setting number for us if we are using their battery. They should know your battery well indeed. I saw they have some number for some lithium setting in the manual but not sure if any of that is for the 12v 280ah battery i got from them. Currently, i just bring up a 2s2p with that battery. Waiting for some cable to come to complete that
@@HuyTran-zy9sv yeah, it's difficult as this controller is a rebranded item, and even then there are so many different batteries with individual BMS systems, sizes, etc., that it would be difficult to accommodate them all. Even the different size Eco Worthy batteries have different parameters. That's why I think learning how to set your battery parameters is important.
I change parameters similar to you and also compared with numbers for the battery from them which is similar. The app always showing around 60% SOC all the time. All 4 battery are fully charged with eco worthy charger before hooking them up together. One more thing, i use AC charging from my eg4 system to charge this but it limit at 500w range only. I dont see setting that limit this
Thanks, Gary!
Very helpful. Good to have someone with experience talk through the settings. The manual doesn’t give much info.
@@georgepitts7024 thanks for checking in!
Gary is amazing, what a good man, had an issue with my inverter, emaied him, he caled me and fixed the issue over the phone. Anytime you want a gift certificate for dinner Gary, say the word, thank you
I couldn't of done it without this video that's for sure the actual manual is horrible
Question, so when the batteries drops in voltage to the set point you have set. your saying it automatically switches to main or generator mode to recharge the batteries if you had one or the other to use, So in other words if I plug in my generator to the ac input on the inverter it will automatically switch the pv off and generator us on?
The short answer is yes, but it wont disconnect the panels. This unit is capable of charging your batteries using both panels and the AC to DC charger that is built into the charger. There is actually another setting that you can use to set the rate of charge while it is doing this. In order to turn the generator on, it relies on the dry contact, andthe setting that accompany that. The dry contacts are a low voltage relay that is capable of sending a signal to another relay that works with an Automatic Transfer Switch that can power the generator on and off. That is the condensed explaination.
Soon, I will have a video out that describes how to set up the AIO controller using mains, and then further into the fiture I will have another video using a generator.
Thanks for checking in!!!!
@@SolarBearDIY so what is the indicator that let's you know that the voltage is to low and its OK to fire up the generator. And Is this unit totally capable of running a window unit ac, TV and refrigerator? I'min the process of setting up this same unit with 1000watts of solar but I'll need to run a window ac unit, refrigerator, TV and normal stuff like that in my off grid cabin. Thats why I was wondering if you can run a generator through the inverter to run stuff in an off grid setup.
@@fjayw yes, I run a 10,000 BTU window mount aircon, and even my air compressor or skill saw at the same time with no problems. If you are starting the generator yourself, there are setting that allow you to run but the generator and the panels at the same time. There is a maximum AC bypass current load of 40 amps.
So in the settings you can set the voltage parameter of the battery so that when it drops to a certain voltage, it bypasses the inverter and uses the mains power in fire an uninterrupted power supply (UPS).
Hey sorry to bug you again,
so I'm setting up off grid like you were during this video using the same inverter, 3000w eco worthy 24v. My question is, there is a grounding screw on the bottom of the inverter, My breaker panel is ground with a grounding rod 8ft in the ground. The AC out only has the Line and the Nuetral connections. What is the grounding screw for and do in need it for my setup? If I need to use it do I run a ground wire from the ground screw to the grounding rail in my panel box or do I ground it to something else? I am reading the book but I'm stumped on the ground screw. Thanks@@SolarBearDIY
@@fjayw so, on this controller the AC is grounded directly to the chassis of the controller/inverter. It is ok to run a wire from this ground to your ground busbar that is connected to your earth ground. I actually recommend that, and that way all grounds will have the same reference.
Some folks will argue that AC and DC should have separate grounds. Some folks run it like myself with one common ground that is connected to an earth ground.
I hope that makes sense.
Hey there, so is the PV input voltage on the all in one display screen. Is that reading what the combined solar.panels are producing in volts? I hooked my four 250w panels up in series/parallel and my pv input reading is 58.0 volts coming into the inverter. The sticker on the back of each panel says 37.6 open current voltage. That seems off but im no expert. Man this stuff can get confusing
@@fjayw yes the AIO unit has a PV voltage display, and that can depend ok how you have panels linked together, and how much direct sun the are exposed to
Hi, when i keep clicking through the menu i have a few setting that arent in the manual. I believe 39 and 40. One has option from 0-254(i think) what is this? And the other a selction of codes. Csn you help with these hidden setting that sre available to look at but not in the manual? So i know which to select
@@matsz10 yeah I can take a look at that, can you tell me what inverter you have??
@Tool_Shed_Talk I have Eco-Worthy 24v 3000w hybrid inverter. Same one under a different badge in this video. Strange how in the manual it skips from 31-35. I just want to know what those settings do
@matsz10 I believe they are options for another inverter model, but when they flash the chip those settings are probably not added for to compatibility and the option may not be available on this model
Hey there again, here's my current situation, I'm getting a max charge of 26.8v from the three 250w panels in series. When I watch a movie and run the ceiling fan and small frig, the voltage reaches 25.0v or maybe a bit lower at bed time, then I run a regular fan over night my inverter will ring the alarm in the wee hours of the morning due to low voltage, thoughts on that? so with that said im going to try the 2s2p on my four 250w panels to see if i get a better responce. My question is now and i may have asked you this already but i want to run a generator sometimes to top off my batteries before i go to bed. So even if the inverter has not reached the #4 setpoint and i start the generator manually will it just automatically switch to that power source to top off the batteries? Or do i need to change #1 or #6 settings on the inverter for that to happen? I have #1 set on sbu and #6 set on oso.
@@fjayw sorry for not getting back to you right away, but I've been super busy. Short answer is yes, you'll have to change the settings. I'll try to have the complete answer tomorrow. Are you on FB?
@@SolarBearDIY Yes im on FB. Thank you
Hey Gary your setting 35 & 37 are the same should the 48v system not double in line with the others? Cheers
@@neilgrant706 yes indeed they should be double the value vs 24v parameters. That was a definite typo on my part, and I actually fixed that a while back when I was doing some troubleshoot for another guy. I forgot to add it to the description..
@@SolarBearDIY Top job thanks for the fast reply
Thank you Gary. This is a great video. Unfortunately my charger inverter is not a clone of the series you discuss but it is a copy (even uses the same case). Are you familiar with the PowMr brand? I have the 3.6kw model in 24v. (POW-LVM3.6M-24V) It uses the same kind of display and identical menu structure but many of the settings are different numbers and it does not seem to have as many set points as the one you are using. I am astounded that these manuals don't give more detail on the functional operation (when they bulk charge, when they float and when they boost etc) Your video was a huge help validating my decisions of max charge voltage, min battery voltage and so on but still lots of questions to resolve. I would really like to know ALOT more about the function of the internal BMS in the ECO batteries too. I have 4 of the 280AH in 2S2P. Is there any wifi or other interfaces to read the internals on these batteries? I found you in the FB group I am Tim McRae on FB
@@MrKiwi13605 hey thanks for checking in. Yes, I know quite a bit about the powmr, contact me at solarbeardiy.Consult@gmail.com
i have a 48 volt lifpo system - all eco-worthy - 5000 watt invertor , 14.3 280 amp 4 battery, 2400 kw array and a invertor genertor which will be used manually when the fault indicates pv unavailable and batteries need to be charged. How important is a ground to earth?
@@iplayer10 highly recommended
How can you even reach 60amp charging from solar with the 100v /1500watt input limits?
Good question, remember that the job of the controller is to reduce and regulate voltage, in addition to other actions. So if your controller will regulate the voltage to 24v on a 24v system. 1400 watts/24 volts=58.33 amps. But they like to round up if they can.
Thanks for the video, i'm looking to buy one of these on facebook marketplace for a very good price. Does the switch on the bottom turn off the entire unit or just the power inverter? I would like to be able to turn off just the inverter to reduce quiescent power draw when i'm not using any appliances. Thanks
@@scellyyt The power switch turns off the entire unit, there is an Eco function that will turn the inverter off if there is no power draw detected. I'll confirm that when I get home. Thanks for checking in!
@@SolarBearDIY thanks for the fast reply, your videos have been very helpful
have you hooked to generator for main power yet? I cant get mine to work with generator it trips gfi on generator as soon as I plug it in
Not yet, I'm just ordered a shipment of batteries, I'll order some generators next and hey the fun begin 😀
@@tsujehtekaj6 you may have competing neutral to grounds here, or a line crossed. Are you on FB by chance?
yeah not sure the issue might be the inverter changer or it doesn't like the generator(dirty power). I don't have mains to test if it's the inverter it worked with old set up looking to get a inverter generator and see if it will work just can't charge the battery using the generator for mains power
@@tsujehtekaj6 You might need to bond the ground on the inverter and the generator so the don't see each other as huge variances to each other and trip the GFI. This is really common in RV's and generators. Mike Sokol has made a couple of videos on how to bond them together (or unbond them as the case may be). I won't try and tell you how to do it because I have never had to do this myself and I don't remember the details, but is is common and the fix is easy and cheap. I am sure Gary can explain it better.
Thank you Gary
@@WrknOnLvnTheLvn your welcome 🤗
Hey its me again, so I have my #4 set at 21.6 and #5 set at 28.0. I have four 250w panels in series 1000w, and two 12.8 280wh in series. With that said when I turn the solar panel breaker on it show the red light and an error #9. Now when I take away one 250w panel to make 750w it works fine. #9 is set at 28.8.. I have no heavy loads right now. Any ideas?
@@fjayw what is the specs for your panels?
@@SolarBearDIY this is the specs for each panel.
Max power 250w
Open circuit voltag 37.6
Voltage at Pmax 30.3
Short circuit current 8.85 amps
Current at Pmax 8.27 amps
Max system voltage 600
Fuse rating 15 amps
@@fjayw ok, so I just figured out your problem, this can be remedied to accommodate all four panels. This controller has a MPPT range of 60v to about 90v, with a Max open voltage of about 100v. When you connect your panels in series, the voltage adds up and exceeds 100v causing the error. The good news is that the safety mechanism is working, and your controller isn't damaged.
Are you on FB?
So 750w of panels is all I can run on this inverter in series?
@@fjayw in series yes, but you can do a 2s2p configuration with your panels, and be within voltage and amperage parameters.
And my apologies, but this controller has an MPPT range that starts at 30v not 60v.
So with the 2 series 2 parallel configuration you could easily have all 4 of your panels operating.
That is the configuration I use, and my panels have about the same voltage parameters.
so i have the eco 5000 watt invertor - the same control screen you demoed. Thank you for that video. I have studied the manual and i cannot seem to find anything indication the number of watts my pv is producing. I see the number of volts which should be 19.8 x 12 = 238. It would be helpful to now the wattage since my panels are rated in watts. Same thing when i run my generator (i will ask you another question about that later). BTW, do you consult for a fee? I'm happy to pay you for your time. Thank you.
@@iplayer10 sure, there's a couple of ways to go about finding that information.
And yes, I do consultations
@@SolarBearDIY i need immediate help....how do i contact you to make arrangements?
@@iplayer10 you should be able to email me through UA-cam, and then we can go from there.
Another way is to join my Facebook page and we can use messenger.
facebook.com/groups/417085394631550/?ref=share&mibextid=NSMWBT
When i put my inverter in use it saying sla?
@@dannylimbert9181 yes, it will say that when you are using "user" charging parameters
But if I'm using lithium iron battery does it need a different setting?
@@dannylimbert9181 As long as you are in user mode, those will be the settings/parameters that you charge controller uses to charge your batteries. The monitor will default to sla because really the monitor doesn't know what type of battery you're using.
I have the Sungold all in one inverter. It's the same as this one. Can someone tell me why it never shows the solar panel icon? It there but never hi lighted.
@@jeffcrutchett7993 that's interesting, is it charging via the panels, or do you have it connected to mains power also?
@@SolarBearDIY I only had 4 100 w panels on it. I added two more panels this morning and now it shows the panels on the display. I thank you for replying. I do have another question. I also installed a combiner box. So the first 6 are all in the same line. What would you suggest I add as far as next panel upgrade?
@@jeffcrutchett7993 ah yes, so answering your other reply; it sounds like you did not have enough voltage from your panels to meet minimum voltage requirements to operate your controller. For your other question, you will want to keep your panels the same. That includes different strings of panels going to your combiner box. For example, if you have six panels connected in series. Going to one fuse in your combiner box, you would want another string with the same amount of panels in the same configuration going to your combiner box. Your combiner box at that point would connect them in parallel and your amperage would increase, and not your voltage. This is something to use caution with so that you don't exceed either your voltage requirements for your controller, or your amperage requirements for your controller and or wiring.
@@SolarBearDIY Thank you for your advice it means a lot to me that you took the time to help. So I guess next year I will be adding 6 more 100 watt panels. Once again thank you.
@@jeffcrutchett7993 anytime, I'm glad to help.
Eco worthy should give a setting number for us if we are using their battery. They should know your battery well indeed. I saw they have some number for some lithium setting in the manual but not sure if any of that is for the 12v 280ah battery i got from them. Currently, i just bring up a 2s2p with that battery. Waiting for some cable to come to complete that
@@HuyTran-zy9sv yeah, it's difficult as this controller is a rebranded item, and even then there are so many different batteries with individual BMS systems, sizes, etc., that it would be difficult to accommodate them all. Even the different size Eco Worthy batteries have different parameters. That's why I think learning how to set your battery parameters is important.
I change parameters similar to you and also compared with numbers for the battery from them which is similar. The app always showing around 60% SOC all the time. All 4 battery are fully charged with eco worthy charger before hooking them up together.
One more thing, i use AC charging from my eg4 system to charge this but it limit at 500w range only. I dont see setting that limit this
@@HuyTran-zy9sv are you using the ESS app?
Yes
I just got response from their support telling me to set battery type to LF08 in setting 8 as i am using their 12v 280ah battery
I have the 48v 5000w for over 4 months and can't complain.
Hopefully it last more than the eg4 3000.