I'd call it that, but the way every company is buying out every company, I don't even know if the name Disney+ will be the long term streaming name. I'm sure it will, but on the off chance.
Excellent work. You did a fantastic job. I think Disney Animation is in a new era now with Disney Plus. Their still making films yes, but now they are making multiple series (short and long form) that are both expanding their existing canon, and creating new ones like Iwaju. It’s a very exciting age for Disney Animation
I'd actually put Iwaju in the same category as a film like The Wild. It's not made by Disney, they are just the distributor, but as far as their feature animation is concerned, I am thinking this is a new era with Disney plus.
I feel like the Golden Era are all high art. Every single frame is a beautiful work of art. Dumbo is the exception since it was made quickly and cheaply but it's still a good looking film, just not compared to the others of the era.
A weird thing I’ve noticed about Disney animation is that every snake has the ability to hypnotize people. Jungle Book, Robin Hood, Jafar’s staff, and I’m pretty sure there’s more I’m still looking.
That goes way back beyond just Disney. Snakes in general have always had that ability in storytelling. You see it the first Harry Potter film, but you also see it in the story of Adam and Eve.
Didn't it come from how from snakes move to block their prey. It's like a dance and in history music and dancing can hypnotize or even mesmerize because it's something all creatures can relate to.
@@ModernMouse Pinocchio also; it's one of those films loved by animation historians and critics, but underappreciated among contemporary audiences. I agree, Fantasia is such a beautiful film and work of art. The animation is some of the best I've ever seen, & my favorite sequence has to be the Pastoral Symphony
My favorites are Wreck-It Ralph and Mulan but that’s not really fair as I’ve only seen a fourth of their films with most of them being in the renaissance, post-renaissance, and the Revival.
Sleeping Beauty!! It's not the best storywise, but what it lacks in that department it makes up for in design and animation. Eyvind Earle's art style had captured my heart and imagination as a child and instilled in me a deep appreciation for midcentury modern aesthetics.
Great video. I always find the subject of the different eras of Disney Animation fascinating. Personally, I call this new era, the Pandemic Era, with Covid ongoing, and now monkeypox. And the films include: Raya and the Last Dragon, Encanto and later, Strange World. Some are calling it Disney's 3rd dark age, as the first 2 films have flopped at the box office, and I don't see Strange World doing any better.
I debated calling it that but I think I have a new name for this era moving forward. When I end up remaking this video, likely early next year, I'll be changing it once again.
The Silver and Renaissance eras are cute and comforting at all, but I was ALWAYS much more of a fan of the Bronze and Post-Renaissance era films. 🤷♀ I _loved_ the darker, more intense style, and the mix of CGI and traditional animation was what inspired me to want to be an animated film maker! The Great Mouse Detective, Fox and the Hound, Treasure Planet, Dinosaur, Meet the Robinsons, Brother Bear, Atlantis, The Emperor's New Groove... THOSE were the ones I wanted to watch again and again. Not the "fluffier" Silver and Renaissance ones. I also adore the films of Don Bluth, who LEFT Disney because they wouldn't let him do things as dark and creepy as he wanted to. The Secret of NIMH is one of my favorite animated movies, period -- far above a LOT of Disney films. I _wanted_ to be truly scared (a little) of the villains and the fighting scenes. I _wanted_ the darker, more disturbing and serious stuff. Even as a little kid. But maybe that was just me. Maybe those are the favorite films of the "weird kids", like I was. Because they're weird and don't really fit -- like me.
Bluth had good topics that stuck with kids but the animation and storytelling itself was mediocre. There's plenty of animation studios doing more different things just as skilled that people just don't care to look to because they're not as big.
@@Zed-ti9uj - Oh I totally agree! Nowadays, a a 24 year old, I love the animated movies of Cartoon Saloon, Studio Ghibli, and other non-American studios that make amazing stuff. I'm always "evangelizing" people to those two studios in particular haha.
I don’t know why people rank the wartime era so low. World War Two was completely out of the Disney company’s control. They did their best, even if the movies were just a compilation of shorts. I like fun and fancy free. Another underrated one.
I’ve always called the 2000-2007 time frame the Millennium Era, and the existing 2019+ time frame as the Pandemic Era, as steaming will be a permanent feature going forward, and the pandemic as the reason for this sudden switch. I guess in the end, it doesn’t really matter what the eras are called. It’s the differences in the eras that matter.
I prefer the term "Experimental Era" or "Second Dark Age", since those are much more descriptive of what that era actually was emblematic of. "Millennium Era" is just descriptive of the fact that those films came right with the turn of the new Millennium - but that was purely coincidental. Sure you can draw a symbolism with the turn of the new millennium and the advancements in and standardization of CGi, which Disney was desperately trying (and failing) to catch up with at the time, but that's purely it - symbolism. It doesn't actually describe much of what the Era was like or what it was emblematic of. Also, "Pandemic Era" just doesn't make any sense for the complete opposite argument you gave - it's only descriptive of the circumstances around which this current Era started. Even though COVID is still out there, we're already living in a post-pandemic era. Calling it "Pandemic Era" would be really inaccurate to describe an entire decade or more. More importantly, however, is that the pandemic only was the motivating factor that led Disney to move to streaming - it was an inevitability, pandemic or not.
@@20000dino Eras are based off of time frames so I feel my names for the eras were better. “Experimental”, I feel, is not a good name for an era because that can be just as descriptive for any era where there were attempted changes to animation styles (like the Bronze Age or Renaissance where there were equal changes in styles). And Pandemic is a clear, set time where changes did coincidentally happened. It doesn’t matter anyway. Neither mine nor your names Eras are set in stone.
@@Telmarine55 "Eras are based off of time frames" - this is only true in the sense that they're denominations based off of the *impact* and *reception* of the films during and after their time frame and, in cases like the Renaissance, based off of their content as well. The Era denominations don't concern external events happening at the time. "Pandemic Era" wouldn't work for this reason. I think it's still a subject worth discussing.
Love the color of the modern mouse sign. The editing and clips were amazing as always. The script had great facts and was very interesting. I love seeing how you improve with each video. Amazing job as always. I was watching into the attraction, and love how they mentioned Walt's documentary's (still love your videos on it). What do you think of inside the attraction?
If you put Bolt in the Revival era, then you should put Basil and Oliver & Co in the Reinassance since the first scored better than previous movies and the second also did, plus it introduced Howard Ashman to the Disney canon.
Excellent video Josh. Have you ever done a video about animated movies that get far into development and then suddenly disappear? Like how the emperor's New groove was developed and even partially animated as an extremely different movie before pivoting to what we got? Or how Gigantic got so far as to be promoted at d23 and have a joke about it in Zootopia and then it just disappeared?
I have not but that is definitely something I can put on my radar. I was in the room when they announced Gigantic initially. I actually wasn't a fan of the idea of bringing back that story since Disney had already done it, but was really surprised when it got the axe.
Unpopular opinion but the movies in the Bronze Era are generally better than the movies in the Silver Era. A lot of movies from the Silver Era feel incomplete and some suffer from serious storytelling-problems. The Bronze Era movies have more complete stories and generally better writen and more fun characters
After spending time making these videos over the years I've learned that a ton of people have a great appreciation for those post-Walt years of the 70s and early 80s. I don't think it's that unpopular of an opinion. You can tell that, while the Silver Age films look gorgeous and do hold some high value, Walt wasn't as excited about animation anymore and had turned his focus to live action films and Disneyland. I think those films feel like they are missing something because Walt wasn't fully invested in them.
Excellent video. Personally I think due to the success of Raya and the Last Dragon and Encanto I think the revival Era is still ongoing. We can only hope Disney's Strange World and Wish will carry on this era.
I actually have a theory that will end up in the next reiteration of this video that does still create the new era. The cutoff between the Revival and this new era is still the same, but rather than it being about finances or any executive changes, it's an approach to storytelling that feels more globally representative than anything before it.
Here's my ranking of all 8 of these Walt Disney Animation Studios' eras/ages.... • #8. The Wartime Era/The Wartime Age - (1943 - 1949) • #7. The Post-Revival Era/The Post-Revival Age - (2021 - Present-day.) • #6. The Experimental Era/The Experimental Age - (2000 - 2009) • #5. The Bronze Era/The Bronze Age - (1970 - 1988) • #4. The Silver Era/The Silver Age - (1950 - 1967) • #3. The Golden Era/The Golden Age - (1937 - 1942) • #2. The Revival Era/The Revival Age - (2010 - 2019) • #1. The Renaissance Era/The Renaissance Age - (1989 - 1999)
@@ModernMouse oh yeah of course bro absolutely I mean it to I'm a huge Disney fan and a fan of Disney Animation in particular and the way you break it down is so awesome
Your videos are fantastic, Josh. May I provide a suggestion: since you did a 2-part video about the Revival era and it ended with Moana, and you since included Ralph Breaks the Internet and Frozen II as part of the Revival, maybe you should do a follow-up video to the Revival Era Explained videos talking about those two sequels.
This was a very informative video! I would also like to add that Ken Anderson (the Art Director for 101 Dalmatians) also influenced the look of some of the later films in the Silver age due to them using Xerox to transfer the cells. Correction: Sleeping Beauty was released in 1959 and The Little Mermaid was the first fairy tale released in 30 years
When Disney bought the rights to star wars.... Man, it's been going so steep downhill since then. It's incredible to me that anyone above the age of 12 can say anything else....
Whenever I watch videos about the different eras, all I wanna do is watch them all in release order, but then I realize I’ll burn myself out lol. One day. Would you say Pixar has notable eras? I’d be curious to see a video on how it’s come from Toy Story and evolved into Luca.
I think my Pixar video goes up to Coco or Incredibles 2. I should actually remake that one as well and update it since it's out of date. My next video, about the Brave Little Toaster, also weirdly gives the origin story of Pixar so that's a thing.
I am doing my Master's thesis in Audiovisual and Multimedia Communication, having Encanto as a subject. I would love to interview you, if you have the time.
Absolutely! I'd be more than happy to help however I can. The best place to get ahold of me quickly these days is to DM me on Instagram @modernmousejosh
Also need to give credit to Clements and Musker, whose idea it was to do a Broadway type of animated feature film, wrote stories with very "yearning" type of themes which is just as important a role as the music and how computers were used to the grandness of the films to show executives how much it worked. If it weren't for them having the idea and storytelling skill to do this, there wouldn't be music or princesses in Disney animated films at all today, and likely no Disney animation features at all. In terms of catalysts of the Disney Renaissance, I'd rank it as 1. Howard and Alan 2. Musker and Clements 3. Glenn Keane, Jodi Benson[Both of who were galvanized or molded to be as extraordinary as they were due to Howard and Keane's animation from Ariel to the Beast stands out just as much as the music] 4. CGI
All of those films are very much package films. the Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh a little less so than the Fantasia films as they found a way to connect the shorts together in a narrative, but in theory they are all package films. They just don't dominate the era like they did during the 1940s.
@@ModernMouse The way I see it they are 2 types of Packages films the Anthlogy films thats what Disney made for all but one . Where are the shorts are orginally made for the film first and maybe like Fun and Fancy Free sold seperantly . While Many Adventures is more of a compliation movie taking already existing shorts and combined them to make a movie with new materia , in fact some of the Looney Tunes movies in the 70's and 80's did the same thign taking several shorts to make a full film like Bugs Bunny 1001 rabbit tales and Daffy Duck's QuackBusters
I actually have 3 different Jose Cariocas on the shelf. He's my favorite Disney character. I also have a small plush one attached to my camera bag when I go out. I have a problem.
This video got dated pretty quickly. The movies have already gone back to theatrical releases, and Encanto was a major success. Not to mention, Bob Iger is back.
It did get dated rather quickly, but I still stand by the fact that the pandemic and streaming changed Disney. Encanto wasn't a major success initially. It bombed in theaters. It wasn't until it was on Disney+...and that's true for 99% of animated movies currently. A mix of feeling safe, the cost of the theaters, and knowing that a movie will be available to stream in a month or so has really shown that animated movies are likely one of the biggest impacted mediums of this era. I do think when I update this eras list again I'll call the new era something different as I think there are other major choices Disney has made during it, but I do think the pandemic/streaming made a big impact.
@@ModernMouse While it is true that Encanto bombed, it was still a much bigger hit than Raya, and I'd say it's currently Disney's next "Frozen". Part of the reason why it bombed is because it came out on Disney+ only a month after its theatrical release, so people decided it was best to just wait. Though Disney is now changing their strategy and giving their movies some time in theaters before they go to Disney+.
Imagine that WW2 never happened and Disney didn't lose so many years forced to produce those mediocre package films. We would have gotten at least 4 or 5 more amazing movies from the original man. Who knows how brilliant they could have been :(
I think glossing over the WW2 era as mediocre is harsh. The animation team really grew their skills during that time and the money coming in from the government allowed them to experiment. Without that time, we wouldn't end up with an artist like Mary Blair at the studio, nor would the design work on a film like Sleeping Beauty be justified. The security the war provided allowed Disney to change styles, reformat, and grow. Disney would have likely not jumped into live action filmmaking either, at least not as early as they did meaning films like 20,000 Leagues, Treasure Island, or The Shaggy Dog would have never been made.
@@ModernMouse I totally agree and I never knew about the money thing. I'm just saying, circumstances aside, the wartime era movies are objectively not of the same quality as the ones before and after them (I have watched them all!) We will never know how things would have played out if WW2 never happened. The crisis from the war was the reason for the studio's finanical problems in the first place. If the war didn't happen, maybe Disney would have earned all that money without the government's help. Maybe he would have experimented just as much, if not more. What we know for sure is that Disney was a genius and a very resilient man who ALWAYS pushed to be better and wouldn't have let his studio down in any given scenario. He proved that. I am definitely grateful for all the movies we have today. But I do wonder what Disney would have made if those war times didn't happen. We could have had maybe 2 or 3 more movies in a similar style to Bambi, Snow White and Pinocchio. I very much love the appeal of those original movies. The golden era ended too quickly!
@@zzenith9846 We know for a fact that certain films that came out later were in development before the war. Cinderella, Alice in Wonderland, and Peter Pan would have likely been made in the 1940s and not in the 50s. They would have looked very different, but those were in development before the war. That is really the only solid thing we know. Otherwise, you are right. We don't know, but it could have still been great.
I actually don't have any Pixar films listed here. I made a completely different Pixar Eras video just for those films in order to keep them separate. (ua-cam.com/video/gFIF1lPTMAY/v-deo.html)
Pinocchio Fantasia Dumbo Bambi Peter Pan Sword Stone Jungle Book Robin Hood Winnie Pooh Fox Hound Great Mouse Detective Aladdin Lion King Hunchback Hercules Tarzan Atlantis Treasure Planet Brother Bear Chicken Little Meet Robinsons Bolt Wreck-it Ralph Big Hero 6 Gnomeo Juliet Planes Frankenweenie Nightmare Before Christmas Roger Rabbit Muppets Toy Story Bug's Life Monsters inc Finding Nemo incredibles Cars Ratatouille Up Coco
I love Disney and all things affiliated. But the Good will tour to South America wasn't set up by the US government. In 1942 Walt was having a nervous breakdown because the people at the studio were on strike, and he thought communists were involved. Roy called FDR and asked him to ask Walt to make a trip to South America to make sure Argentina and Brazil wouldn't join the axis.
It was Network 1901 for a few years. It originally started out with 5 people making videos. I changed the name when I was the last person left. The name "Network 1901" was lost on people and wasn't memorable enough to justify keeping.
@@notyouraveragecomment1328 The year 1901 was the year that Walt Disney was born and "network" implied that we were a network of people making videos. I had used the name Modern Mouse for my podcast since 2011 so when I was the only one left I used it here since I felt that was a more approachable name for the types of things I was doing on the channel.
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I am a bit early but I'm confident. Even a movie that will be a cinema exclusive, won't stay in theaters long, and now that people know the option is to wait 3 months and see it on Disney+, we likely will never see the billion dollar box office numbers that we did just a few years ago from Frozen or the Avengers. I could be wrong, but I feel like streaming will significantly change everything about Disney's films
I really feel like you should adress Lasseter's sexual harassment. I know it's not what the video is about, but you have to adress the elephant in the room
This is something I've addressed in a few videos, but have never given the subject it's own video. I think that will come in time. I'd like to see how his venture with SkyDance Animation begins to pan out before diving into that video.
Ugh: Song South Lilo & Stitch Moana Home on Range Wild Dinosaur Princess Frog Brave inside Out Frozen Bedknobs Broomsticks Oliver Company Beauty Beast Pocahontas Mulan Black Cauldron Aristocats
I think the current era can be called the Gilded Age, where everything SEEMS normal... but basically everyone knows the corruption going on at Disney due to Chapek and are turning against them. The movies are doing well... with streaming and merch... in theaters they bomb. Ya know, that sounds better than the Streaming Era.
It does sound better, but now, months later, I'm already thinking of a totally different theme that has been consistent with Disney's films of this time.
Walt really wanted people to see animation as a true art form and not just something silly to play before a movie for children. Those early films really reflect that. For the most part you could take a single frame, doesn't matter which one, and turn it into a framed painting. Those backgrounds are always beautiful.
Fantastic job on the updated Disney Animation Eras Josh and their different distinctions. It's going to be interesting moving forward now that _Raya and the Last Dragon_ is released and very soon _Encanto_ this November what direction Walt Disney Animation Studios is going to take for their later animated films now that Jennifer Lee is CCO of the Studio.
I think we've seen much of what Jennifer Lee can do. She's interested in strong and deep characters and their lore, more so than Lasseter. Between Frozen 2 and Raya and the Last Dragon you can see it. As far as the animation style, I'm curious to see how that evolves, especially since we are seeing some interesting stuff in the shorts realm on Disney+
@@ModernMouse I agree, it's going to be interesting moving forward what films to expect from Walt Disney Animation Studios, I know we are getting another Don Hall directed film in November 2022 with a Biracial boy in the lead but that's about it in terms of info. On the other hand I do hope we get more Disney animated films with a leading male protagonist because for the past decade we didn't had too many Disney animated films with a leading male protagonist other than Wreck-It Ralph/Ralph Breaks the Internet (Ralph) and Big Hero 6 (Hiro), because during the last 10-13 years it's mostly the female protagonist as the leading character and occasionally in some of the animated films the male protagonist is the deuteragonist (Flynn Rider/Eugene Fitzherbert, Nick Wilde, Maui) or a tritagonist (Kristoff in Frozen). I also would definitely like to see more 2D Hand Drawn animated films along with more animated films based/inspired on fairy tales (e.g Jack and the Beanstalk, Little Red Riding Hood, Rumpelstiltskin, etc.), mythology/legends (e.g. Rainbow Serpent in Australia; Aztec Mythology in Mexico, Celtic mythology in Scotland) or in places Disney hasn't utilized as much like Japan, Aztec Mexico, Australia using whichever style they use (CG, Hand-Drawn, those from the Short Circuit shorts). Heck, I would love for Disney to make a Science Fiction Animated film again cause we haven't had one since _Lilo & Stitch_ and _Treasure Planet_ almost 2 decades ago.
@@EChacon I wouldn't count 2D animation out of possibilities. With the work they are doing in shorts currently, and under Jennifer Lee, I could see Disney finally taking a risk on something that looks different than what they've been doing for the past decade or so. Also, now that you've said it, I kind of want an Aztec mythology film.
I think the "streaming era" will be redubbed as the "sequel era" in the future, considering the next three movies coming out of the studio right now are Moana 2, Zootopia 2, and Frozen 3. That means we won't be getting an original (non-sequel) story from them until at least 2027, at the absolute earliest.
Disney is like a alternative universe A fastany of storytelling and how does narture history science and evolution relate to this great art of harmony if we aren't hearing about childhood dreams and fairy tales. A myth is something more than what the world is but do we know we're wrong? Sorry I'm just making a prologue for myself
@@ModernMouse it's fair to say that Disney could have many ways for us to discover Thier universe where life is more alternative than the reality we know and all the reasons the artstyles on characters look so different is because they don't interact with each other making them all feel like foreigners in other parts of the earth and all those amazing stories where from the depths of childhood and everything wasn't just based on books as they were written there is also a timeline for the stories as well Disney is love Disney is life Walt Disney is like the god we prey to no hard feelings please
Oh man, you lost me when you said that prick Katzenberg leaving Disney contributed to their downfall. Haha, his exit enabled Disney's further success and artistic culture. Roy Disney was the animators' hero, not Katzenberg. He didn't want TLM to be made, he wanted Part of Your World to be taken out, he didn't care for the aspect of art in their work at all, and that shitty direct-to-video BS he pulled. John Lassetter, pig though he is, was able to enable art to flourish again.
post renaissance era is so under rated. I mean CG is weird but you could tell they really put in the time to build their characters. The villains from this era had so much depth and story unlike today's. Also it's so unique in style I wish we can see animated films like them again. Not only Disney films (treasure island, atlantis, brother bear) but other films like el dorado, the prince of Egypt, sinbad and even films like open season and robots were all really fun in their own way I also miss super light funny films like emperors new groove too
In my opinion, The Emperor's New Groove, Atlantis, Lilo and Stitch, Treasure Planet, and Brother Bear are all great, and despite their flaws, they're still nearly as good as the Renaissance films (or just as good, in Stitch's case). Only after Brother Bear is where the significant dip in quality is, but it picks up again with The Princess and the Frog and Tangled. That late 90s-early 2000s period was also when DreamWorks was churning out some fantastic films like the aforementioned El Dorado and especially The Prince of Egypt, which is a masterpiece. I'd lump Spirit: Stallion of the Cimarron and Sinbad: Legend of the Seven Seas together with them too; it's a shame DreamWorks stopped making traditionally animated films, because those four that they did make were all excellent. The early 2000s is a sorely underrated era of animation.
I don’t disagree with making a break in eras following 2019…. As previous era break points have been defined by departures (or deaths) of studio figureheads or executives. But I wonder if that will also correspond to a change in storytelling or animation that has also marked each of the era transitions, or if in terms of the quality of the films remains consistent from the revival/second renaissance if you can still consider that period as still ongoing?
I do think that there is a change in storytelling and I actually feel like this new eras name will change the next time I update the list. I still think the break comes with Jennifer Lee stepping in.
To be honest, they always have but the way they are listening is changing. Instead of paying attention to box office numbers, they'll be able to know more. They can pinpoint locations, age demographics, and more.
As studios have larger histories to go over it is easier to divide up their history with eras but it isn't completely needed. I did this with Pixar a few years ago and many have suggested I do it with Dreamworks. It's something to look into for sure.
I honestly don’t like the Renaissance era that much bc of the music. I enjoy a song now and then but I feel like they kinda over-did it. Although I really love the movies from this period, especially the Goofy Movie, as it is extremely underrated and there’s a whole video on how it contains the musical format that any classic Disney movie would have, despite not appearing that way. I also enjoy some post-renaissance era movies, but now that Disney’s turning towards 3D more and more, I kinda don’t like the movies as much. Also I’m not loving the live action movies the company has produced over the past couple years, like descendants.
Honestly I enjoy the Dark-Age bc as the name implys, Theres a more darker tone set to some of these movies, like The Fox and the Hound. And of course Winnie the Pooh is a classic, at least in my household. I feel like people downplay the dark age too much, and really I don’t think it was that bad.
I do hope that with so many of those films just readily available on Disney+ now, people will check them out. There is some brilliant work in those dark age films.
tbh Bob Iger killed Disney. Eisner was a sleazebag but at least he pursued profit through creativity. He understood that money came from constant innovation, not constant acquisition. Say what you will Disney movies committed to being boundary-pushing, not just safe. The only part of Disney that holds Disney magic right now is DTVA, everything else is marvel, lucasfilm, fox, Pixar, sequels, half-attempts like Raya, and nostalgia bait. Amphibia, Owl House, all those shows THOSE are real Disney.
I think that the animation division (both TV and feature animation) have done a pretty good job as far as progressing and doing new things. I hear lots of people say that Iger killed Disney, but he only made it bigger. I'm not for the monopolization of entertainment, but I do think that he brought a positive atmosphere to the company and let creative people thrive. It's how we ended up with shows like Amphibia and Owl House.
( to the OC ) no. . Eisner nearly destroyed both Pixar and Disney's Animation department ( he was responsible for "Chicken Little" ) . Both have stopped making sequels. . You're in a hangover, in a few years you will say that you LOVE everything you mentioned ( Marvel, Star Wars, etc )
@@ModernMouse ) i agree But I wouldn't blame them for "near monopolization" but rather on other studios making terrible decisions.
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While I always encourage support for DTVA and The Owl House and Amphibia I simply have to correct statements like this, Marvel and Star Wars are bracing for brand new eras and directions, and new films like Raya and Encanto are an encouraging direction for Disney Animation.
I like how called the era of Disney Plus the “Streaming Era”. I thought it would be called the “Plus Era”
I'd call it that, but the way every company is buying out every company, I don't even know if the name Disney+ will be the long term streaming name. I'm sure it will, but on the off chance.
Excellent work. You did a fantastic job.
I think Disney Animation is in a new era now with Disney Plus. Their still making films yes, but now they are making multiple series (short and long form) that are both expanding their existing canon, and creating new ones like Iwaju.
It’s a very exciting age for Disney Animation
I'd actually put Iwaju in the same category as a film like The Wild. It's not made by Disney, they are just the distributor, but as far as their feature animation is concerned, I am thinking this is a new era with Disney plus.
Snow White was a beautiful film
I feel like the Golden Era are all high art. Every single frame is a beautiful work of art. Dumbo is the exception since it was made quickly and cheaply but it's still a good looking film, just not compared to the others of the era.
A weird thing I’ve noticed about Disney animation is that every snake has the ability to hypnotize people. Jungle Book, Robin Hood, Jafar’s staff, and I’m pretty sure there’s more I’m still looking.
That goes way back beyond just Disney. Snakes in general have always had that ability in storytelling. You see it the first Harry Potter film, but you also see it in the story of Adam and Eve.
@@ModernMouse Adam and Eve was the first thing I thought of when I tried to come up with a reason for it that’s so interesting!
I'm glad I'm not the only one who notice that too
Didn't it come from how from snakes move to block their prey. It's like a dance and in history music and dancing can hypnotize or even mesmerize because it's something all creatures can relate to.
What's your favorite Walt Disney Feature Animation movie?
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definitely Pinocchio, but Fantasia is a very close second! I adore the classic films of the golden & silver eras
@@ladyangelsongbird Both are great films with Fantasia not getting nearly as much love as it deserves.
@@ModernMouse Pinocchio also; it's one of those films loved by animation historians and critics, but underappreciated among contemporary audiences.
I agree, Fantasia is such a beautiful film and work of art. The animation is some of the best I've ever seen, & my favorite sequence has to be the Pastoral Symphony
My favorites are Wreck-It Ralph and Mulan but that’s not really fair as I’ve only seen a fourth of their films with most of them being in the renaissance, post-renaissance, and the Revival.
Sleeping Beauty!! It's not the best storywise, but what it lacks in that department it makes up for in design and animation. Eyvind Earle's art style had captured my heart and imagination as a child and instilled in me a deep appreciation for midcentury modern aesthetics.
Great video. I always find the subject of the different eras of Disney Animation fascinating.
Personally, I call this new era, the Pandemic Era, with Covid ongoing, and now monkeypox. And the films include: Raya and the Last Dragon, Encanto and later, Strange World. Some are calling it Disney's 3rd dark age, as the first 2 films have flopped at the box office, and I don't see Strange World doing any better.
I debated calling it that but I think I have a new name for this era moving forward. When I end up remaking this video, likely early next year, I'll be changing it once again.
The Silver and Renaissance eras are cute and comforting at all, but I was ALWAYS much more of a fan of the Bronze and Post-Renaissance era films. 🤷♀ I _loved_ the darker, more intense style, and the mix of CGI and traditional animation was what inspired me to want to be an animated film maker! The Great Mouse Detective, Fox and the Hound, Treasure Planet, Dinosaur, Meet the Robinsons, Brother Bear, Atlantis, The Emperor's New Groove... THOSE were the ones I wanted to watch again and again. Not the "fluffier" Silver and Renaissance ones. I also adore the films of Don Bluth, who LEFT Disney because they wouldn't let him do things as dark and creepy as he wanted to. The Secret of NIMH is one of my favorite animated movies, period -- far above a LOT of Disney films. I _wanted_ to be truly scared (a little) of the villains and the fighting scenes. I _wanted_ the darker, more disturbing and serious stuff. Even as a little kid.
But maybe that was just me. Maybe those are the favorite films of the "weird kids", like I was. Because they're weird and don't really fit -- like me.
Well said! Might be less popular to do darker/experimental but I firmly believe we need both in art and society
In my opinion the Golden Age is the best era. Like, it barely has a flaw.
Bluth had good topics that stuck with kids but the animation and storytelling itself was mediocre. There's plenty of animation studios doing more different things just as skilled that people just don't care to look to because they're not as big.
@@Zed-ti9uj - Oh I totally agree! Nowadays, a a 24 year old, I love the animated movies of Cartoon Saloon, Studio Ghibli, and other non-American studios that make amazing stuff. I'm always "evangelizing" people to those two studios in particular haha.
I don’t know why people rank the wartime era so low. World War Two was completely out of the Disney company’s control. They did their best, even if the movies were just a compilation of shorts. I like fun and fancy free. Another underrated one.
Exactly.
I’ve always called the 2000-2007 time frame the Millennium Era, and the existing 2019+ time frame as the Pandemic Era, as steaming will be a permanent feature going forward, and the pandemic as the reason for this sudden switch. I guess in the end, it doesn’t really matter what the eras are called. It’s the differences in the eras that matter.
I prefer the term "Experimental Era" or "Second Dark Age", since those are much more descriptive of what that era actually was emblematic of. "Millennium Era" is just descriptive of the fact that those films came right with the turn of the new Millennium - but that was purely coincidental.
Sure you can draw a symbolism with the turn of the new millennium and the advancements in and standardization of CGi, which Disney was desperately trying (and failing) to catch up with at the time, but that's purely it - symbolism. It doesn't actually describe much of what the Era was like or what it was emblematic of.
Also, "Pandemic Era" just doesn't make any sense for the complete opposite argument you gave - it's only descriptive of the circumstances around which this current Era started. Even though COVID is still out there, we're already living in a post-pandemic era. Calling it "Pandemic Era" would be really inaccurate to describe an entire decade or more. More importantly, however, is that the pandemic only was the motivating factor that led Disney to move to streaming - it was an inevitability, pandemic or not.
@@20000dino Eras are based off of time frames so I feel my names for the eras were better. “Experimental”, I feel, is not a good name for an era because that can be just as descriptive for any era where there were attempted changes to animation styles (like the Bronze Age or Renaissance where there were equal changes in styles). And Pandemic is a clear, set time where changes did coincidentally happened. It doesn’t matter anyway. Neither mine nor your names Eras are set in stone.
@@Telmarine55 "Eras are based off of time frames" - this is only true in the sense that they're denominations based off of the *impact* and *reception* of the films during and after their time frame and, in cases like the Renaissance, based off of their content as well. The Era denominations don't concern external events happening at the time. "Pandemic Era" wouldn't work for this reason. I think it's still a subject worth discussing.
I hope they do a couple hand drawn animations again in the future.
Love the color of the modern mouse sign. The editing and clips were amazing as always. The script had great facts and was very interesting. I love seeing how you improve with each video. Amazing job as always. I was watching into the attraction, and love how they mentioned Walt's documentary's (still love your videos on it). What do you think of inside the attraction?
I haven't watched it yet. I loved the Imagineering Story docu-series that Leslie Iwerks made so I'm sure I'll love this new one.
@@ModernMouse I hope you do. It's more family friendly but still gives lots of facts and history
If you put Bolt in the Revival era, then you should put Basil and Oliver & Co in the Reinassance since the first scored better than previous movies and the second also did, plus it introduced Howard Ashman to the Disney canon.
Sounds reasonable to me.
Excellent video Josh. Have you ever done a video about animated movies that get far into development and then suddenly disappear? Like how the emperor's New groove was developed and even partially animated as an extremely different movie before pivoting to what we got? Or how Gigantic got so far as to be promoted at d23 and have a joke about it in Zootopia and then it just disappeared?
I have not but that is definitely something I can put on my radar. I was in the room when they announced Gigantic initially. I actually wasn't a fan of the idea of bringing back that story since Disney had already done it, but was really surprised when it got the axe.
Unpopular opinion but the movies in the Bronze Era are generally better than the movies in the Silver Era. A lot of movies from the Silver Era feel incomplete and some suffer from serious storytelling-problems. The Bronze Era movies have more complete stories and generally better writen and more fun characters
After spending time making these videos over the years I've learned that a ton of people have a great appreciation for those post-Walt years of the 70s and early 80s. I don't think it's that unpopular of an opinion. You can tell that, while the Silver Age films look gorgeous and do hold some high value, Walt wasn't as excited about animation anymore and had turned his focus to live action films and Disneyland. I think those films feel like they are missing something because Walt wasn't fully invested in them.
Excellent video. Personally I think due to the success of Raya and the Last Dragon and Encanto I think the revival Era is still ongoing. We can only hope Disney's Strange World and Wish will carry on this era.
I actually have a theory that will end up in the next reiteration of this video that does still create the new era. The cutoff between the Revival and this new era is still the same, but rather than it being about finances or any executive changes, it's an approach to storytelling that feels more globally representative than anything before it.
Here's my ranking of all 8 of these Walt Disney Animation Studios' eras/ages....
• #8. The Wartime Era/The Wartime Age - (1943 - 1949)
• #7. The Post-Revival Era/The Post-Revival Age - (2021 - Present-day.)
• #6. The Experimental Era/The Experimental Age - (2000 - 2009)
• #5. The Bronze Era/The Bronze Age - (1970 - 1988)
• #4. The Silver Era/The Silver Age - (1950 - 1967)
• #3. The Golden Era/The Golden Age - (1937 - 1942)
• #2. The Revival Era/The Revival Age - (2010 - 2019)
• #1. The Renaissance Era/The Renaissance Age - (1989 - 1999)
I really love your reviewing and analytical style bro you're awesome
Appreciate the love! This is the kind of thing that keeps me going. Glad you always chime in with nice comments like this
@@ModernMouse oh yeah of course bro absolutely I mean it to I'm a huge Disney fan and a fan of Disney Animation in particular and the way you break it down is so awesome
Your videos are fantastic, Josh. May I provide a suggestion: since you did a 2-part video about the Revival era and it ended with Moana, and you since included Ralph Breaks the Internet and Frozen II as part of the Revival, maybe you should do a follow-up video to the Revival Era Explained videos talking about those two sequels.
This was a very informative video! I would also like to add that Ken Anderson (the Art Director for 101 Dalmatians) also influenced the look of some of the later films in the Silver age due to them using Xerox to transfer the cells. Correction: Sleeping Beauty was released in 1959 and The Little Mermaid was the first fairy tale released in 30 years
23:05 is the chart
When Disney bought the rights to star wars.... Man, it's been going so steep downhill since then. It's incredible to me that anyone above the age of 12 can say anything else....
Why do I fell like Ralph breaks the internet and frozen 2 belong in the streaming era despite not releasing on a streaming service the same day?
Both films do feel like they are transitional movies from one era to the next. Bolt and Oliver and Company feel that way to me as well.
@@ModernMouse And Tarzan too
Whenever I watch videos about the different eras, all I wanna do is watch them all in release order, but then I realize I’ll burn myself out lol. One day.
Would you say Pixar has notable eras? I’d be curious to see a video on how it’s come from Toy Story and evolved into Luca.
I think my Pixar video goes up to Coco or Incredibles 2. I should actually remake that one as well and update it since it's out of date. My next video, about the Brave Little Toaster, also weirdly gives the origin story of Pixar so that's a thing.
The Dark Age is my favorite
I'm partial to the Wartime era personally, but I also know I'm weird for that. The Dark age has some real gems.
I am doing my Master's thesis in Audiovisual and Multimedia Communication, having Encanto as a subject. I would love to interview you, if you have the time.
Absolutely! I'd be more than happy to help however I can. The best place to get ahold of me quickly these days is to DM me on Instagram @modernmousejosh
Also need to give credit to Clements and Musker, whose idea it was to do a Broadway type of animated feature film, wrote stories with very "yearning" type of themes which is just as important a role as the music and how computers were used to the grandness of the films to show executives how much it worked. If it weren't for them having the idea and storytelling skill to do this, there wouldn't be music or princesses in Disney animated films at all today, and likely no Disney animation features at all. In terms of catalysts of the Disney Renaissance, I'd rank it as 1. Howard and Alan 2. Musker and Clements 3. Glenn Keane, Jodi Benson[Both of who were galvanized or molded to be as extraordinary as they were due to Howard and Keane's animation from Ariel to the Beast stands out just as much as the music] 4. CGI
Would Fantasia, Fantasia 2000, and Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh count as package films too?
All of those films are very much package films. the Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh a little less so than the Fantasia films as they found a way to connect the shorts together in a narrative, but in theory they are all package films. They just don't dominate the era like they did during the 1940s.
@@ModernMouse The way I see it they are 2 types of Packages films the Anthlogy films thats what Disney made for all but one . Where are the shorts are orginally made for the film first and maybe like Fun and Fancy Free sold seperantly . While Many Adventures is more of a compliation movie taking already existing shorts and combined them to make a movie with new materia , in fact some of the Looney Tunes movies in the 70's and 80's did the same thign taking several shorts to make a full film like Bugs Bunny 1001 rabbit tales and Daffy Duck's QuackBusters
I do love you background shelves of tchotchkes- including Jose Carioca!
I actually have 3 different Jose Cariocas on the shelf. He's my favorite Disney character. I also have a small plush one attached to my camera bag when I go out. I have a problem.
This video got dated pretty quickly. The movies have already gone back to theatrical releases, and Encanto was a major success. Not to mention, Bob Iger is back.
It did get dated rather quickly, but I still stand by the fact that the pandemic and streaming changed Disney. Encanto wasn't a major success initially. It bombed in theaters. It wasn't until it was on Disney+...and that's true for 99% of animated movies currently. A mix of feeling safe, the cost of the theaters, and knowing that a movie will be available to stream in a month or so has really shown that animated movies are likely one of the biggest impacted mediums of this era. I do think when I update this eras list again I'll call the new era something different as I think there are other major choices Disney has made during it, but I do think the pandemic/streaming made a big impact.
@@ModernMouse While it is true that Encanto bombed, it was still a much bigger hit than Raya, and I'd say it's currently Disney's next "Frozen". Part of the reason why it bombed is because it came out on Disney+ only a month after its theatrical release, so people decided it was best to just wait. Though Disney is now changing their strategy and giving their movies some time in theaters before they go to Disney+.
Imagine that WW2 never happened and Disney didn't lose so many years forced to produce those mediocre package films. We would have gotten at least 4 or 5 more amazing movies from the original man. Who knows how brilliant they could have been :(
I think glossing over the WW2 era as mediocre is harsh. The animation team really grew their skills during that time and the money coming in from the government allowed them to experiment. Without that time, we wouldn't end up with an artist like Mary Blair at the studio, nor would the design work on a film like Sleeping Beauty be justified. The security the war provided allowed Disney to change styles, reformat, and grow. Disney would have likely not jumped into live action filmmaking either, at least not as early as they did meaning films like 20,000 Leagues, Treasure Island, or The Shaggy Dog would have never been made.
@@ModernMouse I totally agree and I never knew about the money thing. I'm just saying, circumstances aside, the wartime era movies are objectively not of the same quality as the ones before and after them (I have watched them all!)
We will never know how things would have played out if WW2 never happened. The crisis from the war was the reason for the studio's finanical problems in the first place. If the war didn't happen, maybe Disney would have earned all that money without the government's help. Maybe he would have experimented just as much, if not more.
What we know for sure is that Disney was a genius and a very resilient man who ALWAYS pushed to be better and wouldn't have let his studio down in any given scenario. He proved that.
I am definitely grateful for all the movies we have today. But I do wonder what Disney would have made if those war times didn't happen. We could have had maybe 2 or 3 more movies in a similar style to Bambi, Snow White and Pinocchio. I very much love the appeal of those original movies. The golden era ended too quickly!
@@zzenith9846 We know for a fact that certain films that came out later were in development before the war. Cinderella, Alice in Wonderland, and Peter Pan would have likely been made in the 1940s and not in the 50s. They would have looked very different, but those were in development before the war. That is really the only solid thing we know. Otherwise, you are right. We don't know, but it could have still been great.
We wouldn't have had Splash Mountain... maybe.
Bronze age heavily underrated
Im curious why you dont place Toy story in any of these eras, yea its Pixar. But so are alot of the newer films you put in here too
I actually don't have any Pixar films listed here. I made a completely different Pixar Eras video just for those films in order to keep them separate. (ua-cam.com/video/gFIF1lPTMAY/v-deo.html)
This was a great video!
I appreciate the comment! Thank you!
Pinocchio Fantasia Dumbo Bambi Peter Pan Sword Stone Jungle Book Robin Hood Winnie Pooh Fox Hound Great Mouse Detective Aladdin Lion King Hunchback Hercules Tarzan Atlantis Treasure Planet Brother Bear Chicken Little Meet Robinsons Bolt Wreck-it Ralph Big Hero 6 Gnomeo Juliet Planes Frankenweenie Nightmare Before Christmas Roger Rabbit Muppets Toy Story Bug's Life Monsters inc Finding Nemo incredibles Cars Ratatouille Up Coco
HERE'S MY RANKING OF THESE 7 COMPLETE ANIMATED THEATRICAL MOVIE ERAS/AGES....
#7. WARTIME - 1942 -> 1949
#6. EXPERIMENTAL - 2000 -> 2008
#5. BRONZE - 1970 -> 1988
#4. SILVER - 1950 -> 1967
#3. REVIVAL - 2009 -> 2016
#2. GOLDEN - 1937 -> 1942
#1. RENAISSANCE - 1989 -> 1999
This is a great list! Thank you for sharing!
I had lo expectations for Raya and Encanto but they are actually amazing films!
I love Disney and all things affiliated. But the Good will tour to South America wasn't set up by the US government. In 1942 Walt was having a nervous breakdown because the people at the studio were on strike, and he thought communists were involved. Roy called FDR and asked him to ask Walt to make a trip to South America to make sure Argentina and Brazil wouldn't join the axis.
Bronze Age is much underrated
Wasn't your channel name 1942 or something?
It was Network 1901 for a few years. It originally started out with 5 people making videos. I changed the name when I was the last person left. The name "Network 1901" was lost on people and wasn't memorable enough to justify keeping.
@@ModernMouse may I ask what the meaning behind that name?
@@notyouraveragecomment1328 The year 1901 was the year that Walt Disney was born and "network" implied that we were a network of people making videos. I had used the name Modern Mouse for my podcast since 2011 so when I was the only one left I used it here since I felt that was a more approachable name for the types of things I was doing on the channel.
@@ModernMouse thank you 🙏
No, thank you for watching!
Thx for this excellent overview. Maybe You can help me with You knowledge: I really like Walt Disney as host of the Walt Disney shows. I really would like to watch these Walt Disney introductions. But I could not find f.e. a playlist on UA-cam. Can You point me to a resource for that? Would be great.
A bit early to call this a streaming era thier next film is a cinemas exclusive
I am a bit early but I'm confident. Even a movie that will be a cinema exclusive, won't stay in theaters long, and now that people know the option is to wait 3 months and see it on Disney+, we likely will never see the billion dollar box office numbers that we did just a few years ago from Frozen or the Avengers. I could be wrong, but I feel like streaming will significantly change everything about Disney's films
people said the revival era isn't good because of "pushing progressive storylines"? lol people are fucking weird
Bolt belongs in the Post-Renaissance, not the Revival Era
I really feel like you should adress Lasseter's sexual harassment. I know it's not what the video is about, but you have to adress the elephant in the room
This is something I've addressed in a few videos, but have never given the subject it's own video. I think that will come in time. I'd like to see how his venture with SkyDance Animation begins to pan out before diving into that video.
Ugh: Song South Lilo & Stitch Moana Home on Range Wild Dinosaur Princess Frog Brave inside Out Frozen Bedknobs Broomsticks Oliver Company Beauty Beast Pocahontas Mulan Black Cauldron Aristocats
I think the current era can be called the Gilded Age, where everything SEEMS normal... but basically everyone knows the corruption going on at Disney due to Chapek and are turning against them. The movies are doing well... with streaming and merch... in theaters they bomb. Ya know, that sounds better than the Streaming Era.
It does sound better, but now, months later, I'm already thinking of a totally different theme that has been consistent with Disney's films of this time.
@@ModernMouse
I wonder what the new name is?
3rd Dark Age currently in progress..
In terms of finances, that is very much possible.
Def not pg-13 movies
Frozen 2 is the worst film mentioned for sure!
No, I disagree the worst movies were The Black Cauldron and Home on the Range
Those old animated movies are a masterpiece
Walt really wanted people to see animation as a true art form and not just something silly to play before a movie for children. Those early films really reflect that. For the most part you could take a single frame, doesn't matter which one, and turn it into a framed painting. Those backgrounds are always beautiful.
@@ModernMouse so true
Fantastic job on the updated Disney Animation Eras Josh and their different distinctions.
It's going to be interesting moving forward now that _Raya and the Last Dragon_ is released and very soon _Encanto_ this November what direction Walt Disney Animation Studios is going to take for their later animated films now that Jennifer Lee is CCO of the Studio.
I think we've seen much of what Jennifer Lee can do. She's interested in strong and deep characters and their lore, more so than Lasseter. Between Frozen 2 and Raya and the Last Dragon you can see it. As far as the animation style, I'm curious to see how that evolves, especially since we are seeing some interesting stuff in the shorts realm on Disney+
@@ModernMouse I agree, it's going to be interesting moving forward what films to expect from Walt Disney Animation Studios, I know we are getting another Don Hall directed film in November 2022 with a Biracial boy in the lead but that's about it in terms of info. On the other hand I do hope we get more Disney animated films with a leading male protagonist because for the past decade we didn't had too many Disney animated films with a leading male protagonist other than Wreck-It Ralph/Ralph Breaks the Internet (Ralph) and Big Hero 6 (Hiro), because during the last 10-13 years it's mostly the female protagonist as the leading character and occasionally in some of the animated films the male protagonist is the deuteragonist (Flynn Rider/Eugene Fitzherbert, Nick Wilde, Maui) or a tritagonist (Kristoff in Frozen).
I also would definitely like to see more 2D Hand Drawn animated films along with more animated films based/inspired on fairy tales (e.g Jack and the Beanstalk, Little Red Riding Hood, Rumpelstiltskin, etc.), mythology/legends (e.g. Rainbow Serpent in Australia; Aztec Mythology in Mexico, Celtic mythology in Scotland) or in places Disney hasn't utilized as much like Japan, Aztec Mexico, Australia using whichever style they use (CG, Hand-Drawn, those from the Short Circuit shorts). Heck, I would love for Disney to make a Science Fiction Animated film again cause we haven't had one since _Lilo & Stitch_ and _Treasure Planet_ almost 2 decades ago.
@@EChacon I wouldn't count 2D animation out of possibilities. With the work they are doing in shorts currently, and under Jennifer Lee, I could see Disney finally taking a risk on something that looks different than what they've been doing for the past decade or so. Also, now that you've said it, I kind of want an Aztec mythology film.
That's just a bit bizarre as she was never even an animator.
I think the "streaming era" will be redubbed as the "sequel era" in the future, considering the next three movies coming out of the studio right now are Moana 2, Zootopia 2, and Frozen 3. That means we won't be getting an original (non-sequel) story from them until at least 2027, at the absolute earliest.
Disney is like a alternative universe
A fastany of storytelling and how does narture history science and evolution relate to this great art of harmony if we aren't hearing about childhood dreams and fairy tales.
A myth is something more than what the world is but do we know we're wrong? Sorry I'm just making a prologue for myself
Hey, great prologue and honestly great questions. These are the things I think about all the time. Our relationship with storytelling is powerful.
@@ModernMouse it's fair to say that Disney could have many ways for us to discover Thier universe where life is more alternative than the reality we know and all the reasons the artstyles on characters look so different is because they don't interact with each other making them all feel like foreigners in other parts of the earth and all those amazing stories where from the depths of childhood and everything wasn't just based on books as they were written there is also a timeline for the stories as well Disney is love Disney is life
Walt Disney is like the god we prey to no hard feelings please
Oh man, you lost me when you said that prick Katzenberg leaving Disney contributed to their downfall. Haha, his exit enabled Disney's further success and artistic culture. Roy Disney was the animators' hero, not Katzenberg. He didn't want TLM to be made, he wanted Part of Your World to be taken out, he didn't care for the aspect of art in their work at all, and that shitty direct-to-video BS he pulled. John Lassetter, pig though he is, was able to enable art to flourish again.
post renaissance era is so under rated. I mean CG is weird but you could tell they really put in the time to build their characters. The villains from this era had so much depth and story unlike today's.
Also it's so unique in style I wish we can see animated films like them again. Not only Disney films (treasure island, atlantis, brother bear) but other films like el dorado, the prince of Egypt, sinbad and even films like open season and robots were all really fun in their own way
I also miss super light funny films like emperors new groove too
In my opinion, The Emperor's New Groove, Atlantis, Lilo and Stitch, Treasure Planet, and Brother Bear are all great, and despite their flaws, they're still nearly as good as the Renaissance films (or just as good, in Stitch's case). Only after Brother Bear is where the significant dip in quality is, but it picks up again with The Princess and the Frog and Tangled. That late 90s-early 2000s period was also when DreamWorks was churning out some fantastic films like the aforementioned El Dorado and especially The Prince of Egypt, which is a masterpiece. I'd lump Spirit: Stallion of the Cimarron and Sinbad: Legend of the Seven Seas together with them too; it's a shame DreamWorks stopped making traditionally animated films, because those four that they did make were all excellent. The early 2000s is a sorely underrated era of animation.
Pixar ruined Disney and put tons of good 2d animated things in shadows
Elaborate ?
That's an awesome jacket! Very Beetlejuicey
That was the vibe I wanted to go for! Thanks
I don’t disagree with making a break in eras following 2019…. As previous era break points have been defined by departures (or deaths) of studio figureheads or executives. But I wonder if that will also correspond to a change in storytelling or animation that has also marked each of the era transitions, or if in terms of the quality of the films remains consistent from the revival/second renaissance if you can still consider that period as still ongoing?
I do think that there is a change in storytelling and I actually feel like this new eras name will change the next time I update the list. I still think the break comes with Jennifer Lee stepping in.
So Disney listens to us now 🤔
To be honest, they always have but the way they are listening is changing. Instead of paying attention to box office numbers, they'll be able to know more. They can pinpoint locations, age demographics, and more.
fantastic work josh
Glad you enjoyed it as always!
old is best new is junkk
16:45 Sleeping Beauty was released in 1959, not 1960.
Didn't mean to make that mistake. Good catch. I should have hired you as a script editor
@@ModernMouse Will you pay me?
@@mr.toonski2238 Of I were making enough money I'd actually pay an editor but UA-cam currently doesn't pay enough for me to live on.
@@ModernMouse I asked that jokingly.
@@mr.toonski2238 Would you have been surprised if I said "Yes, how is $25 an hour?"
Should other animated studious like Dreamworks films be divided into eras as well
As studios have larger histories to go over it is easier to divide up their history with eras but it isn't completely needed. I did this with Pixar a few years ago and many have suggested I do it with Dreamworks. It's something to look into for sure.
@@ModernMouse and would the Disney Television animation have eras too ?
@@nicholassims9837 it's possible
Sleeping Beauty should be the end of the Silver Era.
We living in the 8th one but idk if its good one
I honestly don’t like the Renaissance era that much bc of the music. I enjoy a song now and then but I feel like they kinda over-did it. Although I really love the movies from this period, especially the Goofy Movie, as it is extremely underrated and there’s a whole video on how it contains the musical format that any classic Disney movie would have, despite not appearing that way. I also enjoy some post-renaissance era movies, but now that Disney’s turning towards 3D more and more, I kinda don’t like the movies as much.
Also I’m not loving the live action movies the company has produced over the past couple years, like descendants.
Honestly I enjoy the Dark-Age bc as the name implys, Theres a more darker tone set to some of these movies, like The Fox and the Hound. And of course Winnie the Pooh is a classic, at least in my household. I feel like people downplay the dark age too much, and really I don’t think it was that bad.
I do hope that with so many of those films just readily available on Disney+ now, people will check them out. There is some brilliant work in those dark age films.
tbh Bob Iger killed Disney. Eisner was a sleazebag but at least he pursued profit through creativity. He understood that money came from constant innovation, not constant acquisition. Say what you will Disney movies committed to being boundary-pushing, not just safe. The only part of Disney that holds Disney magic right now is DTVA, everything else is marvel, lucasfilm, fox, Pixar, sequels, half-attempts like Raya, and nostalgia bait. Amphibia, Owl House, all those shows THOSE are real Disney.
I think that the animation division (both TV and feature animation) have done a pretty good job as far as progressing and doing new things. I hear lots of people say that Iger killed Disney, but he only made it bigger. I'm not for the monopolization of entertainment, but I do think that he brought a positive atmosphere to the company and let creative people thrive. It's how we ended up with shows like Amphibia and Owl House.
( to the OC ) no.
. Eisner nearly destroyed both Pixar and Disney's Animation department ( he was responsible for "Chicken Little" )
. Both have stopped making sequels.
. You're in a hangover, in a few years you will say that you LOVE everything you mentioned ( Marvel, Star Wars, etc )
@@ModernMouse ) i agree
But I wouldn't blame them for "near monopolization" but rather on other studios making terrible decisions.
While I always encourage support for DTVA and The Owl House and Amphibia I simply have to correct statements like this, Marvel and Star Wars are bracing for brand new eras and directions, and new films like Raya and Encanto are an encouraging direction for Disney Animation.
Disney now is not what used to be back then. I hope Disney back like it was in 1990's
hold my Bruno