I did this today. Super easy but I only had a ratchet to loosen the belt. Needed my son to help get it off and back on but we got it. Thanks for the video!
Excellent video. Explaining everything you did very clearly for the regular guys like us I have always thought the alternator has 3 bolts but two is even better.
I want to thank you Dhi for the very kind and thoughtful words; I started my channel with the average Joe in mind. I try to use tools that anyone can afford. The cost of auto repairs is crazy these days. All the shared knowledge found on UA-cam has really changed the game. Thanks for watching my channel.
Awesome man great job I gotta do my 09 Scion xb I starting getting a loud whinning noise yesterday and just today battery light came on now I know where the whining noise was coming from lol kinda sounds like a power steering fluid noise will be when that's low. But I know it was that issue 😂 but yea tomorrow is fun day to late to do it now it's 730pm it's dark now . Great job brother god bless
@@richardspaulding5035 I did it! But there seems to be something wrong, possibly the alternator is faulty, but it's not charging like it should. I'm taking it to a mechanic to see what's going on with it.
@@penelopepadmore3248 That happens sometimes, with rebuilt components. Your mechanic can check the output and test your battery. He will be able to tell you as you say exactly what is going on. Stay in touch, I am curious myself now.
@@richardspaulding5035 He said he could hear something "thumping around inside the alternator, and it was charging intermittently, so it was no good. I went back to the parts store, got the new (not rebuilt) alternator and as soon as I can take the old one out and bring it to them, they'll refund me. So, once more under the hood.
@@penelopepadmore3248 that hapens a lot with rebuilt parts. A rebuilt part is a part that has failed and someone has tried to repair it. Sometimes successfully sometimes not.
Thanks for taking the time to comment and subscribing. Now that I am retired, I only work on friends and family vehicles. There are still a couple of XBs I work on from time to time. I have found that People who do not own an XB love to make fun of them. People who actually own them love them.
Man, that is way easier than the one I did. Most of the time I can't get enough slack to get the belt over the pulley. I have a similar tool that I got from Sears. It's two pieces, so you can change the angle. But you can't get enough damn slack. I have had to fight this every single time I've worked on it. Really ticks me off. I think though your bent tool gives it more swing vs bottoming out that bottom bar. Have to give that a try. Thanks.
Thanks; I have never been afraid to modify a tool as needed to get a job done. I have a drawer full of modified tools such as ground down sockets, cut off wrenches, bent screwdrivers and so on. By all means let me know how you make out.
I did this but my serpentine belt didn’t come much looser than did yours in this video. Is it best to warm up the car first just to loosen the belt more or maybe i needed a better tool like what you have here.
Thanks for the suggestion motogp; I never thought of heating up the motor to make the belt more pliable. If you are working on an XB or Toyota you most certainly need a belt tool that is bent like mine. let me know how you get it off.
@@richardspaulding5035 - sorry that was confusing. It was supposed to be a question to you. I definitely needed a bent tool like yours as my belt didn’t want to come loose. Where did you buy your tool coz i definitely need one.
@@motogp2375 It was an inexpensive serpentine belt kit I think I paid about 20 dollars for it at AutoZone. Then I clamped it in a vise, heated it with a torch and bent it myself. if you do not have the means to bend the tool yourself here is a link to the tool you need that comes already bent. www.amazon.com/Assenmacher-Specialty-TOY1914-Toyota-Serpentine/dp/B008OSCWNS/ref=sr_1_4?dchild=1&keywords=serpentine+belt+tool+for+toyota&qid=1629586865&sr=8-4
Here is a link to it. www.google.com/aclk?sa=L&ai=DChcSEwi_yvnt963yAhUYpLMKHX6lDY0YABAFGgJxbg&ae=2&sig=AOD64_3SLZJCHY3Sx5QCJlXjCGFOAKqU8A&ctype=5&q=&ved=2ahUKEwiAsO_t963yAhUUCs0KHaxHCNAQ9aACegQIARBS&adurl=
This is a 3/8 drive air ratchet made by Ingersoll Rand. I found this tool in the scrap bin at work. I took it home, repaired it and have been using it ever since. I use the battery ratchet in tight spots because it tis smaller than my air ratchet. I use the air ratchet when I need more torque than the battery powered ratchet can deliver. Thanks for all your questions and thanks for watching my channel.
All the sockets that come with the kit are shallow. However, after reviewing the video, it does indeed look like I am using a regular / medium socket. As I now recall the sockets that came with the kit were all 6 pointers. This limited my ability to position the tensioner tool as needed. In using one of my regular 12 points sockets I gave me more options to better position the tool. I am disappointed in myself for not explaining that in the video.
Thanks Hal; I don't quite understand what you are saying. Could you explain that a little better. I used an air ratchet with a 14 mm socket to loosen the top alternator bolt. How do you stick a 19 mm socket over a 14 mm socket? I must be totally missing your point.
@@chrisford3513 There is a 19mm extrusion above and in front of the tensioner puller. That lets you get leverage with minimal movement and push the tensioner down. Lookup a picture of the tensioner assembly to get familiar with it because the 19mm extrusion is hidden under the belt and is < 1" long. I used a tilt head ratchet and a notched piece of pipe to push down on the ratchet handle
Most shops these days get between $125 and $150 per hour. For most vehicles 1 hour, some may take 2 hours. The cheapest would be about $125 for labor, at most it should be $300.
It was just an inexpensive kit that I believe I picked up at AutoZone. As I recall it was around $20. I modified it for this job, then ordered another kit from eBay for about the same price. Now I have two kits, one with a bent tool and one with a strait tool.
Sadly, you didn't mention much about the tensioner. People are gonna catch-hell messing with the serpentine belt. For your information: it can be easily moved with a 19 mm shallow socket and a longer 3/8 rachet.
I don't get your point. There have been more than 6500 views and more than 100 thumbs up., You are the and only negative comment I have received on the video.
Question anyone. My powersteering went out and battery died. I replaced battery drove 5 miles same thing. Battery dead. Was told it was powersteering module? Reading everything here should have alternator tested?
It is difficult to diagnose a problem for afar. Naturally if the car stalls you are going to lose power steering. Even if the alternator is bad, you should get a many more than 5 miles out of a fully charged battery. I know many of you DIY guys would sooner give up you first born than take your car to a repair shop, but you may need to do that. keep in touch.
It is not fun William; It will be helpful to get this tool; ua-cam.com/users/redirect?event=comments&redir_token=QUFFLUhqblF1MG1telJyUklKMnJlZjNoN0hMZVNmUElZd3xBQ3Jtc0tuQXdTYU5qVDFjNTBXNzhiM0dsTHlFS0YzU2F0bkpwOGI5b0pmYXVzYmsxa0Jnbzg4ZjZLTkdWdlJzRTUwV01RT1d3R1BRanMyVUI3UWRkdzJfN2hlWmxuVDJUU1BvMl9SS3Y3Y29sSUdFN1ozaUtTTQ&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FAssenmacher-Specialty-TOY1914-Toyota-Serpentine%2Fdp%2FB008OSCWNS%2Fref%3Dsr_1_4%3Fdchild%3D1%26keywords%3Dserpentine%2Bbelt%2Btool%2Bfor%2Btoyota%26qid%3D1629586865%26sr%3D8-4&stzid=UgzB2ImK_38d7Wx3G354AaABAg.9RJetdhF3TG9RKArkPrGx_ and remove the front wheel then the access panel there in. good luck.
Sorry you are having problems Julius; Are you using a serpentine tool that is slightly bent like the one in the video? You need that bend so you can get under the motor mount and have enough room to fully release the tensioner. You also may need to unclip the air conditioning tubes, not to remove them but just to push them aside. You might possibly need to remove the passenger side wheel and the small access panel to make sure the belt is properly aligned on the lower pullies. let me know how you make out.
@@richardspaulding5035 he may have the same issue I had. Not enough pull before it bottoms out. In my case I cheated the alternator in the belt and then pulled it straight and bolted it in. That wasn’t easy either.
DON'T use the bolt on the pulley!!! Some models (like mine) it's actually a keyed head that a socket won't go onto and the tight spacing makes it REALLY hard to move anyway. So many videos show using the pully bolt (when you actually can). There is a 19mm extrusion above and in front of the pulley on the tensioner arm itself that YOU CAN'T SEE when the belt is installed. Lookup an image of the tensioner assembly to familiarize yourself with it. It also provides more leverage. I used a tilt head ratchet and 19mm socket (vs an extended socket). It's a TIGHT space - so I used a variation of a trick shown in another video - in my case I used a piece of plastic pipe with a small notch cut out and with the ratchet handle horizontal, pushed down on the end of the rough ratchet handle with the pipe notch (careful I didn't slip and somehow damaging the A/C line) and belt popped right off (which is the easy part). It was getting the belt back on the you needed the leverage. The tilt head ratchet I had has a grooved handle for grip which helped avoid slipping - I wouldn't try with a smooth handle ratchet. But I was able to fully retract the tensioner pushing down on the pipe. Don't bother with a tensioner tool - you just can't move it enough in the tight spacing.
how exactly did u bend a straight flat metal rod like that. my mind is trying to work out the physics lol. how is this possible? can u make a video showing how to do it? i need to do this for my scion
Sorry eye 4 an eye, I should have explained that in the video. I clamped it in my bench vise on one end then I clamped a vise grip on the other. I heated the point that I wanted it to bend with a torch until it was cherry red. Then I was able to bend it very easily. After it cooled, I wire brushed the area that I had applied the heat and repainted it black with a spray can. An ordinary propane torch might supply enough heat however if it does not, I think a map torch will. I used CO2 /Acetylene which was overkill.
@@richardspaulding5035 oh ok I figured u had to have made a cut in order to get the bend and then weld the gap after it was bent. I still don't understand how a flat bar bends sideways. Mines an 09 xb. And I need to replace the belt, according to a tire shop which I never asked them to do shut except an oil change lol. But anyhow if they're right then I need to do this also with that bar unless I can access the tensioner thru the wheel well plastic cover
I did this today. Super easy but I only had a ratchet to loosen the belt. Needed my son to help get it off and back on but we got it. Thanks for the video!
Thanks, sometimes an extra hand is quite valuable. It is hard to get my son away from his video games.
Excellent video. Explaining everything you did very clearly for the regular guys like us I have always thought the alternator has 3 bolts but two is even better.
I want to thank you Dhi for the very kind and thoughtful words; I started my channel with the average Joe in mind. I try to use tools that anyone can afford. The cost of auto repairs is crazy these days. All the shared knowledge found on UA-cam has really changed the game. Thanks for watching my channel.
Glad you found the video helpful.
Thanks for the kind words. Hope the job goes well.
Excellent explanation, sir!
Thanks, I hope it was helpful.
Great video. Nicely done.
Thanks for the kind words pockets; I have found that people love to poke fun at the scion. However, the people who own them love them.
Awesome man great job I gotta do my 09 Scion xb I starting getting a loud whinning noise yesterday and just today battery light came on now I know where the whining noise was coming from lol kinda sounds like a power steering fluid noise will be when that's low. But I know it was that issue 😂 but yea tomorrow is fun day to late to do it now it's 730pm it's dark now . Great job brother god bless
Thanks chris, let me know how the job goes.
@@richardspaulding5035 went good wasn't no issue I put a socket from the bottom onto the sprinkler shock peice an pulled down
You are a good teacher. I feel like I can tackle this job now.
At my old shop they used to give me all the young people to break in. Let me know how you make out.
@@richardspaulding5035 I did it! But there seems to be something wrong, possibly the alternator is faulty, but it's not charging like it should. I'm taking it to a mechanic to see what's going on with it.
@@penelopepadmore3248 That happens sometimes, with rebuilt components. Your mechanic can check the output and test your battery. He will be able to tell you as you say exactly what is going on. Stay in touch, I am curious myself now.
@@richardspaulding5035 He said he could hear something "thumping around inside the alternator, and it was charging intermittently, so it was no good. I went back to the parts store, got the new (not rebuilt) alternator and as soon as I can take the old one out and bring it to them, they'll refund me. So, once more under the hood.
@@penelopepadmore3248 that hapens a lot with rebuilt parts. A rebuilt part is a part that has failed and someone has tried to repair it. Sometimes successfully sometimes not.
Like comment and subscribe took me about 30 mins maybe an hour due to traffic. Thank you very much for the detailed video.
Thanks for taking the time to comment and subscribing. Now that I am retired, I only work on friends and family vehicles. There are still a couple of XBs I work on from time to time. I have found that People who do not own an XB love to make fun of them. People who actually own them love them.
Man, that is way easier than the one I did. Most of the time I can't get enough slack to get the belt over the pulley. I have a similar tool that I got from Sears. It's two pieces, so you can change the angle. But you can't get enough damn slack. I have had to fight this every single time I've worked on it. Really ticks me off. I think though your bent tool gives it more swing vs bottoming out that bottom bar. Have to give that a try. Thanks.
Thanks; I have never been afraid to modify a tool as needed to get a job done. I have a drawer full of modified tools such as ground down sockets, cut off wrenches, bent screwdrivers and so on. By all means let me know how you make out.
@@richardspaulding5035 me too. One thing I will say on this too is to not use a multipoint socket. It’ll strip it eventually.
@@theoriginaljimmykicker Yes, a six point is needed.
I did this but my serpentine belt didn’t come much looser than did yours in this video. Is it best to warm up the car first just to loosen the belt more or maybe i needed a better tool like what you have here.
Thanks for the suggestion motogp; I never thought of heating up the motor to make the belt more pliable. If you are working on an XB or Toyota you most certainly need a belt tool that is bent like mine. let me know how you get it off.
@@richardspaulding5035 - sorry that was confusing. It was supposed to be a question to you. I definitely needed a bent tool like yours as my belt didn’t want to come loose. Where did you buy your tool coz i definitely need one.
@@motogp2375 It was an inexpensive serpentine belt kit I think I paid about 20 dollars for it at AutoZone. Then I clamped it in a vise, heated it with a torch and bent it myself. if you do not have the means to bend the tool yourself here is a link to the tool you need that comes already bent. www.amazon.com/Assenmacher-Specialty-TOY1914-Toyota-Serpentine/dp/B008OSCWNS/ref=sr_1_4?dchild=1&keywords=serpentine+belt+tool+for+toyota&qid=1629586865&sr=8-4
@@richardspaulding5035 thank you!! That’s what i needed. I appreciate your help!
Great vid. I have 2010 xB. Could u tell us what model (version) of that Milwaukee wrench you're using for 12mm bolt
Here is a link to it. www.google.com/aclk?sa=L&ai=DChcSEwi_yvnt963yAhUYpLMKHX6lDY0YABAFGgJxbg&ae=2&sig=AOD64_3SLZJCHY3Sx5QCJlXjCGFOAKqU8A&ctype=5&q=&ved=2ahUKEwiAsO_t963yAhUUCs0KHaxHCNAQ9aACegQIARBS&adurl=
on 9:12 - also whats brand and model (version) of that silver wrench you using for 14mm bolt
This is a 3/8 drive air ratchet made by Ingersoll Rand. I found this tool in the scrap bin at work. I took it home, repaired it and have been using it ever since. I use the battery ratchet in tight spots because it tis smaller than my air ratchet. I use the air ratchet when I need more torque than the battery powered ratchet can deliver. Thanks for all your questions and thanks for watching my channel.
Are you using a medium or shallow 19mm socket?
All the sockets that come with the kit are shallow. However, after reviewing the video, it does indeed look like I am using a regular / medium socket. As I now recall the sockets that came with the kit were all 6 pointers. This limited my ability to position the tensioner tool as needed. In using one of my regular 12 points sockets I gave me more options to better position the tool. I am disappointed in myself for not explaining that in the video.
If you use a 19mm over top of the 14mm it is a lot easier and can do it with a power handle, just did my 2008.
Thanks Hal; I don't quite understand what you are saying. Could you explain that a little better. I used an air ratchet with a 14 mm socket to loosen the top alternator bolt. How do you stick a 19 mm socket over a 14 mm socket? I must be totally missing your point.
How does that even work? 19mm over 14mm
@@chrisford3513 There is a 19mm extrusion above and in front of the tensioner puller. That lets you get leverage with minimal movement and push the tensioner down. Lookup a picture of the tensioner assembly to get familiar with it because the 19mm extrusion is hidden under the belt and is < 1" long. I used a tilt head ratchet and a notched piece of pipe to push down on the ratchet handle
did you pull up or down on the belt bolt
I started low around the bottom pulleys then pulled up around the alternator pulley.
Any idea on the average cost for labor to replace the alternator ?
Most shops these days get between $125 and $150 per hour. For most vehicles 1 hour, some may take 2 hours. The cheapest would be about $125 for labor, at most it should be $300.
@@richardspaulding5035 thank you for the quick response loved the video next time ill attempt this myself
@@chiyo8823ify Although my channel continues to grow, I am still small enough to be able to respond to all my comments, glad to be of help
I bought it original from Toyota dealer or aftermarket something like eBay, Amazon,... How much it cost for you
It was just an inexpensive kit that I believe I picked up at AutoZone. As I recall it was around $20. I modified it for this job, then ordered another kit from eBay for about the same price. Now I have two kits, one with a bent tool and one with a strait tool.
Sadly, you didn't mention much about the tensioner. People are gonna catch-hell messing with the serpentine belt. For your information: it can be easily moved with a 19 mm shallow socket and a longer 3/8 rachet.
I don't get your point. There have been more than 6500 views and more than 100 thumbs up., You are the and only negative comment I have received on the video.
Question anyone. My powersteering went out and battery died. I replaced battery drove 5 miles same thing. Battery dead. Was told it was powersteering module? Reading everything here should have alternator tested?
It is difficult to diagnose a problem for afar. Naturally if the car stalls you are going to lose power steering. Even if the alternator is bad, you should get a many more than 5 miles out of a fully charged battery. I know many of you DIY guys would sooner give up you first born than take your car to a repair shop, but you may need to do that. keep in touch.
rick how much work would it be to change the belt
It is not fun William; It will be helpful to get this tool; ua-cam.com/users/redirect?event=comments&redir_token=QUFFLUhqblF1MG1telJyUklKMnJlZjNoN0hMZVNmUElZd3xBQ3Jtc0tuQXdTYU5qVDFjNTBXNzhiM0dsTHlFS0YzU2F0bkpwOGI5b0pmYXVzYmsxa0Jnbzg4ZjZLTkdWdlJzRTUwV01RT1d3R1BRanMyVUI3UWRkdzJfN2hlWmxuVDJUU1BvMl9SS3Y3Y29sSUdFN1ozaUtTTQ&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FAssenmacher-Specialty-TOY1914-Toyota-Serpentine%2Fdp%2FB008OSCWNS%2Fref%3Dsr_1_4%3Fdchild%3D1%26keywords%3Dserpentine%2Bbelt%2Btool%2Bfor%2Btoyota%26qid%3D1629586865%26sr%3D8-4&stzid=UgzB2ImK_38d7Wx3G354AaABAg.9RJetdhF3TG9RKArkPrGx_ and remove the front wheel then the access panel there in. good luck.
@@richardspaulding5035 thanks Rick. LOL looks like a pain in the A$$ job
I cant get my belt to go back on alternator.......so frustrated 😳
Sorry you are having problems Julius; Are you using a serpentine tool that is slightly bent like the one in the video? You need that bend so you can get under the motor mount and have enough room to fully release the tensioner. You also may need to unclip the air conditioning tubes, not to remove them but just to push them aside. You might possibly need to remove the passenger side wheel and the small access panel to make sure the belt is properly aligned on the lower pullies. let me know how you make out.
@@richardspaulding5035 he may have the same issue I had. Not enough pull before it bottoms out. In my case I cheated the alternator in the belt and then pulled it straight and bolted it in. That wasn’t easy either.
@@theoriginaljimmykicker You got it done.
An extra pair of hands made the difference for me. My son wiggled the belt as I loosed the tension.
DON'T use the bolt on the pulley!!! Some models (like mine) it's actually a keyed head that a socket won't go onto and the tight spacing makes it REALLY hard to move anyway. So many videos show using the pully bolt (when you actually can). There is a 19mm extrusion above and in front of the pulley on the tensioner arm itself that YOU CAN'T SEE when the belt is installed. Lookup an image of the tensioner assembly to familiarize yourself with it. It also provides more leverage. I used a tilt head ratchet and 19mm socket (vs an extended socket). It's a TIGHT space - so I used a variation of a trick shown in another video - in my case I used a piece of plastic pipe with a small notch cut out and with the ratchet handle horizontal, pushed down on the end of the rough ratchet handle with the pipe notch (careful I didn't slip and somehow damaging the A/C line) and belt popped right off (which is the easy part). It was getting the belt back on the you needed the leverage. The tilt head ratchet I had has a grooved handle for grip which helped avoid slipping - I wouldn't try with a smooth handle ratchet. But I was able to fully retract the tensioner pushing down on the pipe. Don't bother with a tensioner tool - you just can't move it enough in the tight spacing.
Thanks for sharing.
This is the issue im having on mine
how exactly did u bend a straight flat metal rod like that. my mind is trying to work out the physics lol. how is this possible? can u make a video showing how to do it? i need to do this for my scion
Sorry eye 4 an eye, I should have explained that in the video. I clamped it in my bench vise on one end then I clamped a vise grip on the other. I heated the point that I wanted it to bend with a torch until it was cherry red. Then I was able to bend it very easily. After it cooled, I wire brushed the area that I had applied the heat and repainted it black with a spray can. An ordinary propane torch might supply enough heat however if it does not, I think a map torch will. I used CO2 /Acetylene which was overkill.
@@richardspaulding5035 oh ok I figured u had to have made a cut in order to get the bend and then weld the gap after it was bent. I still don't understand how a flat bar bends sideways. Mines an 09 xb. And I need to replace the belt, according to a tire shop which I never asked them to do shut except an oil change lol. But anyhow if they're right then I need to do this also with that bar unless I can access the tensioner thru the wheel well plastic cover