500w 36v Front Wheel Ebike Build by an Ebike Noob
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- Опубліковано 10 вер 2024
- My first attempt at an ebike build. There's a lot of information out there, a lot of which I found confusing. I wanted to keep it simple so I went for a front wheel drive kit from Ebay. 500w was the max power i wanted on the front wheel and with a 10s 37v lipo battery it cruises happily at 25mph on the flat. With a 36v Bottle Battery it will cruise along at 21-22mph which is fine.
I forgot to mention that the kit comes with a pedal assist sensor which I didn't fit because I wanted it to be throttle only.
The controller is fine with the 10s Lipo so I'm going to try 11s and 12s to find out how quick it can go. I'll update with the findings.
With 9,000 miles of touring and 2 years as a bicycle messenger I can say that going 25 mph in city/village traffic on a bicycle is something I will not do. This video makes me sure that the 500 watt kit I just ordered is more than powerful enough to meet my pedal assist needs etc. And possiably use on cross country tour. I can pedal miles of city traffic to get to medical appointments but I have become to tired to pedal back, and I can't stand that stop and go of city bus. I am old and do not choose to own a car for financial/environmental reasons, plus my using a bicycle has apparantly kept me alive when I should be dead according to the doctor, so I will use the pedal assist or more returning to home. I am glad I found this video, thanks.
The reason I would not go fast in city traffic is because, the only defense a bike rider has against stupid drivers, parked car drivers suddenly opening their car doors in front of you, and drivers not looking for bicycles is the quick manuverability and short stopping distance of a relatively slow speed bicycle. Edit: I have built same 500 watt Ebike kit (different brand but same kit without LCD) use three 12volt 10AH SLA (heavy at 221/2 pounds) batteries, and also am waiting for soft pack 36volt 14AH (6 pounds) lithium ion battery (1/2 cost of hard shell incased) to carry as backup. So I can be sure to get back from where the SLA batteries take me. Also installed self contained PAS sensor. Everything not test driven yet. Will edit after test run.
YUKI INU Yes, I agree with you. Situations change so rapidly in the urban environment (pedestrians crossing unexpectedly, cars turning unpredictably) that anything over 25kph (approx. 15mph) is dangerous. I don't own an ebike, just a road bike, and I prefer to wait until I am on a quiet country road before pedalling at speed.
Tomas O Maonaigh Yes, I hope riders with less experience than us will take what we say very seriously. It may save thier lives someday. Also obey all traffic laws! Don't do stupid things that give car drivers a reason to hate us.
I feel quite the opposite then you do. By following your logic, lets avoid buying motorbikes as well. Since they are too fast for the city as they go above 25kph right?
This logic is flawed. In fact, if you have the head on your shoulders, it's safer for you to do 40 kph in the city, as that way you can stay in the general flow of cars, matching their speed, and not be the douche who slows everyone down. Slow biker, presents much more danger in the traffic.
Lilia Sahanova Очевидно, что вы не велосипедист, Лилия!
I believe it's about being cautious on particular situations. I always slow down when I see chances of crashing, like no having full visibility of my environment or seeing drivers inside parked cars that could possibly open their car's door, but when I see no danger at all then it's not bad to go full speed.
Hi Richard, I've just built one of these and converted a brand new Calibre 2 Cubed hard tail mountain bike in to an e-bike. I'm an electrical engineer with 42 years experience and also have bit of mechanical experience as well. I have a fully legal Cube Cross Hybrid Pro with a Bosch CX Performance Line motor so I know a bit about how e-bikes work.
The build, from an electrical point of view is very simple and would be easy for anyone to do. I have pedal assist and thumb throttle installed. The difficult bit was making the wheel fit in to the fork drop outs and getting the hydraulic disk brake installed. It can be done but I've had to file down the brake caliper and the fork leg to make things fit.
The other issue I have with this conversion kit, is that there is no power control in PAS mode, not much in throttle mode either. In PAS mode the motor runs on after you stop peddling which is potentially dangerous.
As a cost effective e-bike conversion, it's great, but only if you have the mechanical engineering skills to make things fit.
This is not a fast kit and won't get you noticed by the police in the UK. It will only reach a maximum speed of around 20 mph on level ground while pedalling. Uphill ascents are much slower and will drop you down to 12 mph. My road legal bike will out perform this kit build in any conditions.
In conclusion, this is a very cheap way of converting your normal bike and about 75% less cost than my legal e-bike.
As performance is subject to things like rider weight, I'm 6' 1" and 100 kg.
Great video, stay safe and enjoy your riding.
Thanks for a great and well thought out comment! It's a very down and dirty way to convert a bike. Nothing like some of the very sophisticated bikes available these days. But for me it's cheap and fun and if overvolted it's very quick. It can achieve 30 mph without pedal assist and will happily cruise along at 25mph on the flat without pedal assist. Enjoy your riding whatever you ride.
need to be a mechanical engineer to make things fit... im over here with a crowbar , some harbor freight washers and a big flat head screw driver just smashing things together making it happen
@@manimotard5429 I've just fit a scooter motor to a bike using the inside of a wheel and a suspension that serves no purpose as spacers
Love your video and thank you for your insights. I too am relatively new, 6 months, to e-bikes having being motor cyclist in my youth , now in my 60’s, and a reluctant car driver due to its high cost, low average speed across town, and environmental impact. The 250w 24v 8Ah bike I bought I found too limited in speed ( not keeping up with cycle lane speeds I.e being overtaken by all but the slowest cyclist), range (10 miles with pedal assist), and low torque. I live on a hill and it struggled to get me back up. So I bought and installed a 350w 36v outlet 10Ah kit. Now the speed is about average in the cycle lane, range is about 20miles ( so less range anxiety) and torque gets me up the hill smoothly with out a struggle. So I was a happier bunny. But.. there are times when you need that extra boost e.g getting some clear space away from the lights so I installed a second 48v, 10Ah battery and battery blender module for safe connection of 2 batteries with different charges and I think I’ve found the sweet spot for me. Range and power when you need it. I have to agree, at my age at least 25mph on a bike would be too high up the speed/risk ratio for comfort. Having to contend at that speed with pedestrians stepping off the curb to my left, faster bikes and car overtaking or trying to cut left i front of me would not, for me feel safe. I think.. 20mph ( I.e not faster than cyclist do anyway ) with 350-500w for the extra torque to smooth out head winds and hills should do it😅
A good build and most sensible practical and interesting comments in this thread for all E Bikers. good advise on points of very unrealistic UN Laws that endanger the rider as to power. When you buy a car it doesn't mean your going to boot it to maximum speed unless your a lunatic. Riders need reserve power for uphill climbs otherwise risk burning the motor out that's common sense something which is lacking in most all UK Laws.
the torque arm info probably saved me a nasty fall so thanks for that, seems obvious now that i think of it
@Les Moore you dont need a torque arm for 350w and below (unless your using a front wheel motor) but ig if you want peace of mind a torque arm will help, just be sure to use 2 torque arms for motors over 500w
Thanks, 500w is what I need for the casual grocery getter run-around bike I'm building on an old Huffy frame. Just street riding to stores and home. Will build something else for off-road :D
Wow, sounds similar to mine.
Same here. I just need to go no more than 4 mile round trips a few times a week.
Good video. I have 500w kit whit sidemotor left side of the back wheel. I'm going to use two controllers, one 250w pedal asist in traffic, and 1000w throtle for offroad. Legal and fun.
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Nice conversion project. Like you, I did a front hub conversion on my bike but built the battery and a box to hold the battery pack and controller. My bike is fun to ride and so far the police have shown no interest in it.
Thanks Bob, How did you build your battery box? I'm interested in building one for this bike before summer.
I did some videos of my project, including details on box construction and battery assembly.
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Nice, but of course completely illegal. UK law limits power to 250W and yours is 500W. UK law also does not allow a thumb or twist grip throttle, as you's has. This means if you have an accident it is automatically your fault as you are riding illegally. If you hit anyone, they can automatically sue for large sums, again because you are at fault for riding an illegal vehicle. It's as if the legislators are determined to keep everyone in cars.
All very true. Hopefully legislation will loosen and more powerful ebikes will be allowed.
Richard Hanson your wish has been met now
@@mazdarx-8rotary.97 Has it?
Dr. John Campbell they’ve changed the laws a little bit regarding electric bikes so maybe
Dr. John Campbell now you are allowed a twist and go evoke I’m pretty sure
Nice chill video, and soundtrack. Good job
That combo got me going( that harp made it for me, whats the tune?) in process of doing a 500m watt36v build first time I did 31 mph on a 48 volt bike scared me, tooling at 15-20 is plenty for this old zorro.
I have a 1500w front hub I just bought and Im having the EXACT SAME clearance issues, having to file down the mounting bolts on the hub motor to seat into the front forks.
However it seems that I have even LESS clearance for disk brakes, Im exploring the manual disk brake kits available but with the shape of the hub motor enclosure its looking marginal at best for accomodating... I may have to get very involved and fabricate my own mounting solution or my own brake assembly as I refuse to have anything other than two working disk brakes on something capable of 70kmh/hr lol.
But glad to see Im not the only one overcoming issues with these builds amongs the sea of "Easy e-bike conversion in 1 hour" videos.
Hi please tell me if I buy a 1000w ebike conversion kit do I need a 1000w battery ? How do you know which is the right battery for your conversion kit ?? ,..... and what’s the peddle assist and what’s its job cos you said in your description you didn’t put it on ??? Sorry to bother you lol
No problem, you don't need a 1000w battery as such. For something like this you need at least a 36v 5000mah battery. On this build it works out about 1 mile range per 1000mah of battery capacity. Pedal assist comes with the kit. If you install it the motor will kick in and assist when you pedal. If you dont install it you can run with throttle only with no need to pedal. of course you can still pedal f you like with this set up
I've just started using my 500watt ebike kit. It's faster than I was expecting. You definitely have to be very aware of this. Front wheel drive changes the feel of steering slightly and when signalling I am very cautious....expect I'll get used to it soon! I've tried it on the flat turned off and it's fine so I imagine long rides soon.
You definitely have to have your wits about you. Things happen much faster on an ebike.
I have a front wheel drive ebike that's also around 500w and compered to my 2000w rear motor ebike the handling dosnt feel that much different
The hub seems huge for a 500 watt, 36 volt front hub, any ideas why the hub is so large,as there are much smaller 500 watt hubs about
I have no idea, it was listed as 500w which what I assumed it was. It's also very heavy!
@@richardhanson2331 Thanks for replying
best thing i ever bght!!!!
This video was 6 years ago. How long did this ebike conversion last? Were there any problems?
Can you please let me know is there a specefic direction the wheel has to be? In other video a guy was saying the wire has to be on the left side . Can the direction of the wheel be reversed by changing wire? Most kits have the wire on the left and disc brake treads on the right and my bike disc brake is on the left side of the front wheel.
I use your video as guide to build my own ebike last week,Thank you.
We purchased this Vivi 27.5” electric bike and a Tentaquil 26” electric bike for our 13 and 14 year olds. ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxUiL0GnyDjP32RJdd660sP8mZk4CRLTCJ The Vivi was much easier to put together. With the Vivi, there was a video link to assist with assembly which made the process easier to follow (we did put the handlebars on upside down, but it was a quick and easy fix). With the Tentaquil, the assembly was not as simple to follow, but after we messaged the company for an assembly video, it was easier and they did respond quickly. The other major differences were that the Vivi has a grip throttle on the right handle (like a motorcycle) and the Tentaquil has a push throttle that you use your thumb to activate. The monitors were also different, so if you’re looking for something specific in terms of changing the bikes functions, pay attention to what the monitor offers. We were really impressed with the overall quality and functionality of both bikes, but if you’re looking for more power and an easier assembly, definitely go with the Vivi!
Bro can you tell me what charger to use my father died and left us with a bike like this but someone misplaced the charger😢
The best video in the world
It's not, but thanks anyway 😃
the best idea is to get a front wheel becase it will be harder to mount tourque arms and extra cables on the back
25mph? I thought the speed limit for ebikes was 15mph? Not a criticism, since I'm pretty sure I'd be doing more than 15mph if I had one..
bluegtturbo it goes 30+ and yes they are limited to 15 😊
You can have any power you like just so long as you have a mechanism that restricts the bike to 15mph on the highway
I have a 28" tire when i look up the 28" front wheel hubs they either dont say what fork size is needed or its between 100mm and 105mm mine is more what can i do?
Hi, There are various models of this type of hub motor on the market. I would search for a hub motor which fits your fork width.
where do u buy the wheel from ? there seems many about but some look to cheap to be true
I’ve just ordered a 1000w 48v kit, it’s my first time doing something like this, would any battery pack work off eBay or does it have to be a certain connector?
Hi, any 36v ebike battery should work fine. Most off the shelf batteries will have a connector fitted and it should be easy enough to buy and fit the opposite connector to the one on the battery. Any connector suitable for the amperage should work though. I used xt90 connectors.
Richard Hanson thanks for the reply i just need to wait now lol
Also would I have to solder the connector or does it just come out and clip in
This was 3 years ago what's ur experience and did the product hold
Initial response: Got this bike for my friend. ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxUiL0GnyDjP32RJdd660sP8mZk4CRLTCJ Delivery was fast. And the friend was surprised I would order it when she had never suggested she wanted anything but the pedal bike she had. She has now ridden the bike two times and gives it a 10 and says it is very fun. We have some hills in our town that are very challenging to climb on a typical bike. But tonight she went up with the pedal assist and loved it. I was way behind on my standard bike, huffing and puffing. Now she is no longer lagging behind me. This thing is powerful enough that a person could go around town without any pedaling. She likes to get some exercise so on flat ground she hits the red button to turn off pedal assist and only uses the twist throttle when she's in a tough spot. The bike looks good. It is really a very nice bike for the friend. Now for me, when I get an electric bike, I'm twice her size and will be looking for a bigger watt motor and battery. But this one is just wonderful for my friend. I am happy with this purchase.
How did you get your phone to connect to the bike
Very interesting video. I am looking at a front wheel motor system for my 20 mile round trip commute.
Same here brother! 20 mile round trip to work and back home for me.
A 500w front or rear kit would work fine but you would need to make sure your battery is atleast 450wh
@@kiwi8054 I have built the bike now with a 250w motor and big battery. It has lots of cables everywhere (brakes and thumb throttle) which is a shame. Easily good enough for 65 miles on eco.
Do you need to buy a motor separately or whatever is included in the box all you need?
And how do you charge it?
The motor is the wheel. Those kits usually only lack the battery and charger
I have an Ebike, the Ecomotion Core Pro eFat. The rear has a Bafang 500w motor on rear hub. A 48v battery. I would like to add a front 500w motor as well, so it's "2wd", and was wondering if I can connect this motor to existing wiring- brakes- throttle etc. The wheel size is 26 with a 4 inch fat tire. The wheel has those round holes on the inside like many of the fat tire bikes do. So I would think you have that wheel with a 500w motor?. Again if so, can I possibly connect a wheel with motor in the front to the existing electrics?. Thank you.
I would love to do this but hate to think how much it would weigh!! Ebikeschool has done a video on this ua-cam.com/video/SHXQr2MPJS8/v-deo.html
Hi, it can run without pedalling at 25mph no problem, but I don't do that. I use the pedal assist.
Where can I find a 500watt voilamart hub? I only find 1000watts and higher
Great video can you please tell me how heavy does the kit and battery make the bike I'm thinking of doing a similar conversion to a mountain bike (probley a rear wheel drive conversion) I'm in a Massenet so would like to know what they are like getting up and down stairs! & if a 250 watt motor is lighter than 500watt motor or is 500watt heaveyer than 250watt motor? or does the size of the motor in Watts make no difference in the overall weight of the bike?
Thanks. The motor makes a huge difference to the weight. from very easy to get up steps before the conversion, to very difficult after the conversion. A 250w may well be lighter.
Richard Hanson Thanks for the quick reply might go for the 250w kit if it's lighter and one with a throttle/controller switch option and use it with the brakes in short controlled bursts to try & help me get it up and down stairs i hope that might work except if the battery runs out of juice lol
I have installed literally dozens of Voilamart hubs and have never been able to find anything less than 1000watt 48Volt. Please tell me where I can purchase a 500watt 36volt kit. Thanks
Aliexpress/ Ebay/ Amazon...
Hello there I really enjoyed all your videos and I have a question for you. I'm planning to buy my e-bike kit from Amazon. So what I'm doing is buying a foldup bike from Amazon then purchasing a ebike motor kit. Problem is I want to buy a front ebike motor because I want as little modifications and simple installation as possible. The problem I have is a fold-up bike on buying from Amazon has the disc brake on the front tire. Is there a rear brake part make a note that I need to purchase since the e-bike motor is the front tire? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Hi Tony, Glad you enjoyed the videos. As long as you have a good rear brake on the folding bike you shouldn't need to buy any parts for a front wheel motor installation. A good disk brake set up on the front wheel is important especially with the heavier, faster motors.
Many thanks for posting. I'm contemplating solar only no battery (I live in Nevada) and wonder if you can describe what the bike is like at roughly 150 watts output to the motor? Many thanks
Did you have paddle asset to get to 22m/h ?? And what's the Ah of your battery please ?
Your Nightmare I didn't use pedal assist and I was using a 10000mah 36v lithium lion battery. I'm now using a 44.4v li-po battery which gets me to 32mph with no pedalling.
Do you know if can use a 48V 10Ah battery with a 1000 watt rear hub motor, though the controller apparently requires a 48V 11.6Ah battery ?
Hi, It should work fine as long as the battery is the correct voltage for the controller. It will just give you a shorter range. I've run this 36v on a 5mah battery for testing and it worked great.
I'd get 20ah bro 😂 mine was about 13ah on a 500w take you 3 or 4mile in 15 to 20minutes but I only using laptop cells lol
Thank you all
How did you get the torque arm on the wired side of the hub
I took the wires out of the plastic connector block, fed the cable through the torque arm and put the cables back into the connector block.
Some electric motors work as a dynamo when turned, do you think these motors could be converted to charge the battery when going down hill or when doing light work?
Not sure. Some kids have regen but these cheap kits definitely don't
Minimal charge, regen only helps save the brake pads, not enough mass with a bicycle for decent regeneration of the battery
When I fully charge the same type of battery one light stays red but the other 4 are green is this normal or is it just because my battery is older/second hand
4 green 1 red = 100% charge
3 green 1 red = 75% charge
2 green 1 red = 50% charge
1 green 1 red = 25% charge
1 red = (CHARGE BATTERY)
The cable going into the wheel should be going in from below not above, water ingres!
Excellent tips thankyou.
Great video! I’m looking to do something very similar to what you have done, but just wondering can the battery easily slide on and off for when not in use so I can take it off to prevent it getting stolen?
Damn Son thanks for your kind comment. The battery is very easy to remove. This is a large frame so bear in mind if you have a smaller frame. You can buy side fitting batteries in this case. Good luck with your build!!
Do you need to pedal to get the motor going or is there enough power from stand still?
This question is to anyone who owns a front wheel ebike?
No you don't. Just twist the throttle & go
its a cool concept. you still have gear gadget when you run out battery...
Thanks for the detailed review of this kit. I just received mine today (still in the box not opened). I purchased it as an alternative to using my car in sunny days and due to the many parking restrictions here in Brighton. The thing that makes me go for such a kit and 500w hub is due to the many hills we have here and I hope this hub can deal with them . I know for certain that a 250w one will be useless over here and my options was limited between 500w or 750w but the later Will be too much faster on flat and I am not really looking for speed 15/20 MPH is very satisfying for a middle age man😉. Thank again for the review and if you have any new tips/ ideas of a suitable reasonable price frame I should consider to go with this hub? Regards
Hi, sorry for the late reply. It's a great kit for 15-25mph. If you're looking for comfort i'd go with a steel frame. If you're looking for lightness I'd go with aluminium.
I have just ordered a 1000 watt ebike front hub like yours, Hope it will all be OK. My question is should I try 3 or 4 12 volt lead acid batteries (wired in SERIES right?) to get good performance and range, or should I get the all singing and dancing (probably £80 - £100 ) more modern Lithium polymer solution (obviously lighter) I use the Lithium batteries a lot in model drone's etc. I have noticed they don't always last that long in terms of life cycles' (at least you have to treat them with kid gloves and not over drain them etc.
what would you recommend. Also I have ordered a 26inch Hub and my bike is a 27.5 inch wheel, I am just hoping it will fit in the drop out (in terms of width) I don't think the fact that it is 26 inch and my bike is 27.5 inch will make much difference (probably just academic) If it don't fit I guess I will just get a cheap mountain bike that it will fit into rather than send the thing all the way back to China!!!
Anyway my friend, please give me any advice you can as I want to get this right and have a really enjoyable first e-bike experience as I can see you have. I can't wait for the kit to arrive - I am really excited about this project!!! kellyrobert605@gmail.com
Hi Robert, hope your build is going well. The Lead Acid batteries make an already heavy bike very heavy indeed. If budget allows I would go for a lithium ion pack for weight and practicality. As you mention Li-po's are far more sensitive to abuse and I have puffed 2 sets by over draining or leaving fully charged for long periods of time. 2.6 inch wheels should fit fine in a 27.5 frame. Might alter the geometry of your bike look a bit odd if you put the 26 on the front and 27.5" on the back.
Hello which Break system do u build in your bike?
Thx
Hi, I used Avid BB5.
@@richardhanson2331
how wide is the axle mount of the fork 100mm or 110mm?
because the motor is a bit wide.
greetings from florida USA. is it hard to pedal the bike when there is no power to the motor ?
Bob Americana Hi Bob. Its very difficult to pedal the bike for any great distance with no power. You wouldn't want b to get stuck far from home with a flat battery
thanks. @@richardhanson2331
@@richardhanson2331 Hi Rich, why is that? Doesn’t the motor disengage when you switch the throttle or pedal assist to 0?
How easy is to pedal If You left without power on road? Hard to push the hub?
Grechin Mihail it's very hard to pedal without power. You wouldn't want to be far from home if you ran out of juice
amazing gaes,what is the price of that one??? thx
nice looking town!
Hello Richard, btw amazing video,
So im buying this kit, my ebike battery has a xt60 connector, the only cables i see is some green wire, how do i connect a xt60 one?
Hi, I used XT90's for my build and I cut off the power connector on the controller and soldered on an XT90 female connector. I also added anti spark xt90 male connectors to my batteries. You should be fine connecting an XT60 female connector to your controller.
@@richardhanson2331 thank you
@@richardhanson2331 and one more thing if you dont mind, with the 1000w voilmart kit would a 48v 14ah battery be sufficient?
Ty
Hi going to order one too, my bike has hydraulic brakes... was it simple enough to remove them if they won’t fit along with the e bike wheel?
Yes very simple. I would've gone for hydraulics again but they wouldn't fit this setup. They encroached on the motor so you couldn't get the wheel in the dropouts. Good luck with the build.
Richard Hanson is there a way of me checking this Aswell? don’t want to commit to buying a kit if it doesn’t fit, mines a boardman hybrid. Thanks
the battry wht amp ? and what min can go ?
USA noob here. I just bought a 1000w Voilamart front hub motor on ebay. (Would have been happy with 500w, but the price was great). How much less ride time will I get with LiPo vs. Li-Io? Not sure if I need a certain battery to pair with that. I can get a 12S 44.4v for $269. Is that too much power? Not enough? Good price? Just... wrong? Not looking to go superfast, but I'm 260 lbs. Gentle hills, 10 mile commute, happy to pedal along. Thanks.
ua-cam.com/channels/RMrqzsrPIWvY3PINkLKs-Q.html has a great channel explaining battery sizes and requirements for various applications. It's mainly based on Li-ion batteries but it explains how many volts and mah you might need for different configurations which can easily be applied to Li-po batteries. The big differences between li-po and Li-ion are that lipo are more volatile and not as straight forward to charge.
Very interesting and nice riding footage!
I bumped up to a 1000 watt 48v, I bikepack. Bike & front wheel drive on muddy gravel services rules!
Full respect! 1000w 48v FWD sounds bloody scary to me! Hope you've got some fat tyres on there 🙂
How many miles are you getting
What's the red button for
Thnks for posting this as ill be buying a 1000watt kit soon and you have sdome helpful tips about strenghting the front forks plus disc brakes
brakes are brakes but you indeed want torque arms for a 1000 watt motor.. high watt motors have the nasty habit of snapping the drop-outs where the wheel is mounted..unpleasant for a rear drive motor..a hospital visit for a front wheel drive.
@@bobamericana3099 Thanks for advice but ill be going for a front wheel and yes ive been over handbars a few times when i was a kid
@@sparkles9868 Brakes aren't just brakes. With a 1000w on your front wheel you need disc brakes for sure. Hydraulic are better but the mechanical ones I used do the job OK. I've seen videos on here of powerful ebikes with rim brakes and V brakes and there's no way they're stopping you quickly from 30+ mph. Anything over 250w and disk brakes are a must.
@@richardhanson2331 Thanks for adice but i am a qualified mechanical and eletrical engineer and know what it is like when brakes fail
@@richardhanson2331 Yes I know and had brakes fail on me before which why i go hydralic when i can
I wont be buy a hub motor now as found a more efficent way of doing it which uses all the gears on the bike
Well done that was awsome
How’s the battery life on a 500W motor with a 36V battery?
it depends on the battery type and size of the cells. you can have a 36v battery that will last 1 mile or 10, just depends on what you purchased. I just bought 2 3000mah 5 cell lipos, both of which is about the size of 1 liter of soda, i estimate it will power the bike a maximum of 8 miles without pedaling at 15mph. Thats all i need and it only costs 60$.
@joe blow Do you have a link for battery? all batteries I find are like $300
@joe blow Oh ok maybe if you order from China but not US Price. Thanks
Nice vid, can u tell me if those kits are waterproof cus in uk rain a lot thanx
Hi, you would need to put the controller in a waterproof box or bag but i think the motor would be ok in the wet.
Very good mate I've got the same kit running lipos
How does it do going up hills? Id assume it does well in mud and snow which theirs plenty of where I live but also quite a few hills. im sure a rear wheel kit would work better for going up hills but i like the idea of a two wheel drive bike. But like that weight would be more balanced with the front ebike kit. I'm hoping the front wheel kit would still be able to help climbing hills by shifting your weight forward some. Thanks.
I don't really go off road with it but it pulls really well up hills so I assume it would be fine on hills off-road with chunky tyres
So if it's restricted to 15.5 mph, what happens when you are going down a hill ? I often hit in excess of 30mph is this illegal ? Btw the cops have never stopped me once there seem to be a lot it's, but's and scaremongering on the comments of this video.
How are your forks holding up I'm building a Cannondale also
Hi, I only used it for riding on roads and the forks held up fine. I think t definitely helped having two torque arms on the fork.
Some nice trails in Rammy👍 Just had my ebike stolen so can’t afford a new one and this looks like a good option. Will it work with a full suspension??
Yep some great trails round here :) Sorry to hear about your bike! For mountain biking a mid drive or rear wheel drive kit would probably be more suitable. I don't think the front suspension would handle front wheel drive off road very well and the weight distribution wouldn't be the best for mountain biking. .
Nice Video and I really want to appreciate the replies you have made till date to all the comments . This is really encouraging.
What Lipo battery model are you using?
For 5AH, what is the discharge current rate? What is the total output Watt?
For 16AH, what is the discharge current rate? What is the total output Watt?
If possible, please post some links for the LiPo battery.
Hello Richard, are your Voilamark motor kit still going strong? Regards. Vlad
Yes, but I don't use it much
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Why?
Is it ok in the rain?
What is your weight?
i've been thinking about converting my bicycle to electric but I can't find any kits for 18 speed bicycle.
If you're doing a front wheel conversion it will work with any number of gears
You can change the cassette/free wheel to yours. Smh
Is there a way to limit it to 250W so it's legal? Just to be on the safe side.
Yes there's a wire which you can connect which regulated the controller to 250w. Feels very slow after running at 500w though
Thanks
Great video. Can you please tell me if the power to the motor slows down once your finger comes off the controller. Thanks
Hi Thanks for your kind comment! Yes power to the motor is shut off when you take your finger off the controller.
@@richardhanson2331 Ok. That's what I was hoping. I really want one of these kits. Thanks for the quick reply.
I put my Ebike Front Wheel on the other side not like you did in 4:07 is this a problem?
If you mean the Torque arm then no problem as long as you have one fitted.
@@richardhanson2331 no I mean where the Cable comes out!
I'm not sure If it's the same kit as this then it only goes on this way. The disk mounts on the wheel and the fork should be on the same side when you fit the wheel. .
Thanks for the vid. How many AH is your battery?
Thanks for the comment. I have used 3 batteries. a 5mah lipo setup, a 36v 10.4mah Li-ion bottle style battery and a 16mah lipo battery. i sold the Li-ion battery because the Li-po batteries are more powerful and more fun. For daily use and commuting the Li-ion battery would be the sensible option.
so, how is the ebike holding up in 2020?
Hi, I sold the bike recently because I wasn't using it enough. I would like to have seen how it would have stood up to everyday use. I think it would have been fine because these kits are relatively simple.
Are torque arms easy to fit?
There are many different types and configurations so It's hard to say. The ones i used were fairly easy to fit.
Hello, mate.
Am just about to buy the same kit on ebay. I've heard bad things how is yours holding up after 10 months?
Dr Robert hi, I only built it for fun so not used it too often and manly short trips, but so far it's been great, even overvolted. Done a couple of 15-20 mile trips with no problems
@@richardhanson2331 Thanks for your speedy reply, I think am going to buy one and keep it in road legal mode as am only commuting 6-8 miles each way I can't see much to go wrong, I presume those people complaining just don't know what they are doing.
+Dr Robert If it all breaks, it's not the most expensive kit and you'll have the experience of doing the build. There are some expensive kits out there which are probably better, but for a cheap simple build this is fine. Road legal feels unbelievably slow after you have ridden unrestricted.
can I use peddle assist and throttle at the same time ty
Hi, sorry I never tried it so I don't know. I usually pedal alongside the motor
puoi mettere il link della batteria
Hi, how many km and whats yours ah capacity?
Hi, I use a 5ah battery for local trips and a 16ah for longer trips. I get roughly 1 mile per ah.
If your throttle sticks your toast , fit some power cut off brakes before you find out why you need them and I hope your controllers water proof again there’s a reason people put them in a pouch or bag
i just received my kit so was curious what to look out for when building, especially because the shifting mechanism seems to be build in to the handles, so preferable not using the supplied handles wich cut out the motor. the voice in the video is already on the soft side and when the comment comes about the handles the music comes in. I hope you can use this info for further video which was for the rest, very nice.
Hi, Thanks for the kind comment. I didn't use the brake levers which came with the kit. They don't feel well made. I used regular mechanical disk brake levers instead which works great. They dontt cut out the motor but I never found this to be a problem.
brilliant video😎
what range do you get
have you got a link to the
kit you used😃
Hello from Chesterfield Derbyshire mate,great bike,you gotta try a geared 250w front hub motor with a 22amp 36/48v controller and a 48v battery, I get 25mph throttle only and I'm 6'2 16stone, and the best of all is the 250 weighs half this does and it freewheels due to the 4-1 planetary gear ratio .
These kits are heavy so that's well worth considering.
Hi Richard! Great video , what about if it is raining ? Thanks
Music is relaxing
What App did you use in Speed?
GPS Speedometer by COOL NIKS on Googleplay
Very well presented video. Are you turning the pedals at all ?
It will go up to 30mph without pedaling. I like pedaling along with it though.
where you buy this kit from you got a link ?
Glen Garden here you go. rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F122707199059
It's on Amazon now.
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How you getting on with the ebike
Sadly I sold it due to lack of space. It's was great fun when I had it.
Great video, can you tell me how is it uphills?
Shakeel Hussain it's great up hills using the 12s and 10s lipo batteries.
You run without pedal at 25mph?
It can run without pedaling at up to 30mph using 6s batteries
Is the battery included?
No battery included
how much AH = amp hour does your battery has
I use 5ah for short journeys and 16ah for longer journeys. I get about 1 mile per ah
@@richardhanson2331 thanks for replying and how far does the 5ah goes (distance) sorry for bothering i was just wondering because i would like to create diy ebike for postmates deliveries. thank you
@@RodolfoRk no problem, I get 5-6 miles from the 5ah battery with no pedalling at full speed
@@richardhanson2331 thank you so much for info =D
Yay! Rammy!
Would have liked to hear the motor instead of entirely overlaying the sound with music.