Amen, they need our prayers. Thank God for Rabbi Joseph Shulam and One for Israel ministry. And all who are helping to bring more back to faith, men such as Dr. James Tour
Wowwww!!! Rabbi Shulam's response is the most impressive comment (1:25:10 - 1:26:46) dealing with the aftermath attributed to The Lamb Of God our Lord Yeshua Hamashiach. All Glory and Praises to ABBA Father for His wonderful and beautiful work of salvation for us that are undeserving. Hallelujah to the King Jesus and Our Heavenly Father. We love you and cant wait to be in your arms.
I would love to sit at this table. So much confusion that could be easily cleared up. If for no other reason, because of the love and respect shared amongst these men, I believe they would have ears to hear and eyes to see.
I learned from rabbi Joseph Shulam he explained very well Thanks to Abba YHWH and for His Son YAHSHUA ...long time I search a good Teachers now I found ..and now I back to study the TORAH
Paul became all things to all men that they may be saved. He did that beautifully without losing his identity as. Jew. As we all know, he was a very learned man. He taught the Gentiles Torah and rest of the Tanach which makes perfect sense! It's what you do when you disciple totally pagan people! From what I read, Yeshua did not abolish the Torah but upheld it. To the glory of Elohim the Father. Very interesting discussion thank you!
I disagree, or actually I'd say Paul would disagree. In one of Paul's epistles he says there is no jew or greek in Christ Jesus and Paul was definitely in Christ. The problem is obvious to me what the problem is that jews have a problem with Paul and that's pride. Paul was personally sent by Jesus and Jesus says if people don't receive those he sends then they don't receive him nor the Father. I'm so tired of people thinking just because they've studied for years they think they know something. 1st corinthians 8:2 and if any man think that he knows anything he knows nothing yet as he ought to know."
@@nikao7751 The original poster is saying that, I think: Paul taught the true Torah message, but was saying it the right way to reach each group. But Shulam is still holding onto "Jewishness" as special.
@@clarekuehn4372 I believe we need to be precise with the whole counsel of God, and after reading the original comment here I noticed that they wrote that Jesus did not abolish the law but upheld it, but that's not what Jesus says, he says he fulfilled it and that's a big difference, and one of the things I get from Jesus saying not one jot or title shall pass is that we are to take the scriptures seriously and use precision and remain teachable and correctable so as to get at the truth and heart of a matter.
Neither are right or wrong. R. Shulam is absolutely correct in that neither Paul Nor believing Jews, not even the Gentile believers called themselves Christian's. Those were the Greeks that called this group Christians. From what I read and continue to study, it is clear to me that the Gentiles were grafted into the Olive Tree. The more I study, it becomes clear to me that a new religion called Christianity was not the intent of Yeshua.
I think this could be true, that it is meant to be an enlargement of Judaism to the world. It is really significant that so many Jews are now believing Yeshua was the Messiah and many Christians like me are now becoming really awake to the origins of their faith, it seems to me like something important is happening. I think the true faith is being revealed to everyone and we will finally come together!
if Apostles or Paul did not like to call themselves as Christians, then they would have protested not to call them as Christians. Even before Agrippa he would have objected, rather he wished him to follow Christ. This is not a head breaking issue . The issue is Constantine's take over of the Church authority and made a paradigm of making it as religion and bringing corruption.
Enjoyed everyone except the commentator.....he was seen with an angry expression several times on the camera behind the speakers..... I say this in Brotherly love, and just as a reminder that in a place where Jesus is being discussed, an angry expression takes away from the sincerity......but all in all, the best speaker was Rabbi Joseph. Thank you for this and God bless you all!🕊🙋♀️🙏✝️✡️💖
I can assure you he was not at all angry. He funds these discussions at his own expense and they are a highlight of his for spiritual growth which he offers freely to the world. His expressions could be do to his concentration on what is being said and where he plans to lead the discussion from there. But angry he is not. I attended in person and can vouch for this.
In 1:03 on in reference to the Letter of the book of Acts, it shows clearly in the following verse (21) that the law of Moshe (The whole Torah) is to be implemented as it is learned every Shabat. This is one of the main problems with Christianity that always stops or refers to a text out context or without continuity to the point thereby, excluding certain convenient words to advance a doctrine without the Torah. The Torah is the way of life, the Torah is Yahshuah, the word that became flesh, (Jn 1:14) that came not to avoid the Torah but to complete it and fulfill it (Mat 5:17-19) Rom 2:13, 1Jn 2:3-6, Mat 7:21-27, Rom 3:31 There are many more examples but these are the obvious ones.
The Seventh-Day Adventist has been preaching to the Cristians church that God’s law is love and he never changed- and we must keep the ten comments because of our love for him. The Catholic Church changed the holy sabbath for the worship of the Sun Day. Go back to history and see the truth, that Peter never violated the law of God. Thanks for this amazing message.
Great discussion, with Rabbi Shulam and his deeper Jewish understanding. Though what I don't understand is why some theological scholars could not see that Allah is not another name for Jehovah, irrespective of contrary evidences in the bible.
Diverse background of the panel made for an interesting and informative discussion. Saul (Paul) was thoroughly Jewish. Interesting that the Lord called him to the gentile world. 🌍
Most people undetstand scripture but try hard to hope and convince themselves no i dont have to obey that and come up with all debates ..a true believer delights in finding scripture he must obey....all churches i have enteted do thete best to convince themselves scriptures they are to obey they dont have to ...
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PAUL humilliated Peter, not following JESUS' process to speak first with Peter apart, then with witnesses & only then in public; But, in Paul's letter, written to GALATIANS 1, Paul confesses his low steem about the 12 Apostles and he saw no need to receive JESUS' teachings directly from the 12 Apostles, only trusting in his revelations & interpretation of scriptures. This gap was the beginning of different Denominations & a split between JESUS's teachings & Paul's pharisee doctrines. While JESUS' teachings & paraboles are supposed to be the ROOT of His Approved Disciples: 💞LOVE ONE ANOTHER 🕊
I have to disagree with Dr. Shulam on many things, but one is why should Christians be considered Pharisees? Didn't the Essenes believe the supernatural, believe in miracles, believe in angels, believe in the resurrection? One hundred years before Jesus, weren't the Essenes teaching that the Messiah would come when He did, that He would be cut off, that He would be resurrected, and that He would bring an age of grace? Didn't they call the Pharisees the children of darkness? Did Jesus ever say anything positive about the Pharisees? I think a born again Christian has more in common with the Essenes than we do the Pharisees. Honestly, I'm more impressed with Mark Lanier than I am Shulam.
I like that this discussion starts out acknowledging that Paul was a Pharisee who never converted to Christianity. It is not that Paul's words are hard to understand if we actually come to grips with what he saw as his ministry. Paul actually saw his mission in the latter part of his life as keeping the Gentiles from converting to Judaism by telling them that they could follow Yeshua without becoming Torah observant. Paul's message to the Gentiles was that they could be "saved by grace through faith alone that Jesus died for their sins." This directly contradicts the corroborated eyewitness testimony of Yeshua's brother James, and his two hand-picked disciples Matthew the tax collector and Peter through the hand of Mark. Both of whom documented that what Yeshua taught was that to not be offensive to God a person must not only become Torah observant as the Torah is now written. Each person is personally responsible for searching the prophets to determine where the scribes have changed the Torah and living by what they believe the original instructions given by God through Moshe at Mount Sinai were. That there is one further step each person must take to actually receive eternal life. They must forgive each and every person God sends to teach them a hard lesson or test our love for Him. Yeshua could not be more clear that the God he serves will forgive you exactly as you have forgiven the people who have offended you the most. Shalom
Acts 15:5 begins with the question you pose. Acts15:7-11 gives Peter's response, 15:13-21 gives James response. 15:22-29 shows the whole congregation's response. Apparently your assessment Paul's teaching is directly contradicted by James, Peter and other disciples is not the record according to Acts 15 where the question is addressed by the congregation in Jerusalem. .
@@fleetwd1 you do understand that acts of the apostles was written by Luke who tells you he never met Yeshua or any of his disciples. Luke is simply repeating rumors which we are told through the Torah and through, the Torah that is written upon our heart, we are not supposed to accept as the truth. Neither Peter nor James is speaking in acts of the apostles! You are simply repeating rumors when you say that they were! Acts of the Apostles is written for the sole purpose of promoting Paul who was attempting to, and did his job very well, keep Gentiles from converting to Judaism. It seems that as one of Paul's many followers he has successfully dissuaded you from following Yeshua too. I do really appreciate your channel even if I think all of your guests speak incredibly poorly about the God they claim to follow! Shalom
Galatians 2:15-16, 18-19 Paul writes: " We who are Jews by nature and not sinners of the Gentiles, knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law but by faith in Jesus Christ even we have believed in Christ Jesus that we might be justified by faith in Christ and not by the works of the law; for by the works of the law no flesh shall be justified." "For if I build again those things which I have destroyed, I make myself a transgressor. For I through the law died to the law that I might live to God." Gal 3:2-3&5'6 "Did you receive the Spirit by the works of the law or by the hearing of faith? Are you so foolish? Having begun in the Spirit, are you now being made perfect by the flesh? Therefore He who supplies the Spirit to you and works miracles among you, does He do it by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? Just as Abraham believed God and it was accounted to him for righteousness. Therefore know that only those who are of faith are sons of Abraham."
Paul also Writes The Law is Holy yet I am carnal. The Law as a method of obtaining righteousness is what Paul writes against in your texts. However the Law as a standard of judging sin, of instructing us, or of defining doctrine, Paul never opposes. The Law, The Oracles of God, Hebrew Scriptures are God's method of instructing and are not opposed to Spirit for they are Spirit breathed and are Holy, while we are carnal. the problem is not with the Law, or Scripture, it is with us. No one of us can obtain righteousness by following the Law, or Scripture. But the righteousness of God, the righteousness of Christ, which is ours by faith is a gift which the Law and the Prophets attest to and it reveals God's righteousness. His covenantal faithfulness to all who believe. Remember the difference between using it as a method and keeping it as a standard to guide us by. That is important when reading all that Paul and Scripture say about the Law. the negative is using it as a method. the positive is that it always remains as a standard to instruct us by.
Are these gentlemen understand that there were two sets of law that were given to Moses. One which was written by the finger of God, the other was a bunch of ceremonial laws, a shadow that meet its substance in Christ. The lamb that was slain from the foundation of the world. And when Christ died at the cross the heavy veil that separates the holy from the most holy place ripped off from top to bottom, exposing the sacredness of the hloy of holies, signiying that rituals has to cease because its all pointed to Christ. But the moral laws, the ten commandments remain till heaven and earth pass away. I guess Paul knew it.
I think the Acts 15 context is completely missed… what’s the first verse say? The issue was a salvation issue…the context was clear…the immediate things was the 4 basics to be saved, but then it says what ? Verse 16-18, then verse 21…it’s pretty clear, start with these 4 then learn the rest as you go, there’s no way anyone including them could know the entire Torah before being saved..
As a 30 year old, I'm saddened to see the audience in the opening scene. Why?. I see nobody who's around my age or younger. I'm not sure if there is even one person that is less than twice my age in the paused frame that I'm looking at. Are we failing the youth by not preaching the gospel and truth in the world? Are we failing them by keeping God behind the doors of a church?. I know it's God who saves, but where are we falling short as servants?
you are observant. However these Panel discussions happen in the afternoon on a weekday. the lectures combined with these are evening programs. so the younger attendees are likely working or at school etc., etc., during panel discussions. There are plenty of younger participants in ministries associated with the Library just not on weekdays at 2:30-4 pm.
As Paul was a student of Gamaliel was he influenced by his teachings on divorce? Also if I have to pick between Peter who walked in the yolk of Messiah and Paul who did not and who was influenced by his other Rabbi think I mite be inclined to choose Peter.
What are they saying that Paul was not a christian. Yes Paul was a Jew, so was Jesus, Jesus came as the Messiah that was promised to the Jews. The name christian was given to the followers of Christ. With Moses God lived in the temple in the Holy of Holies, with Jesus the death and Resurrection and the receiving of the Holy Spirit God now lives inside of us. This is what Paul is expressing throughout all his letters Christ in US the hope of glory. We are now the temple and Jesus Christ (God) now lives inside of us therefore we are called Christians because Christ is in US, but we are truly Israelites. Chosen by God, and called sons of God.
Great panel discussion with much to learn, and re-learn. We gentiles have been grafted into the tree/Israel, but God forbid you tell a Jew that you are now just as much "Israel" as (s)he is! Don't think that would go over well. Jews generally maintain they are the "only ones."
The stumbling stone that appears to be the most problematic, from what I have gathered in my studying, and I am by no means a scholar, is that Jews, for the most part, view Yeshua, Jesus, as being , " another God" thus violating the number one commandment not have have, "other gods" nor idol worship. As a person who Believes Jesus IS God, not a separate diety; that He is God in the flesh; I find that they will not accept this. The fact that traditional Judaism rejected Jesus is clearly explained in Psalm 118:22-23. How might someone explain the term, " son of God" as explaining who Jesus is, as the term sounds as if Yeshua is a derivative of God, separate from Him? We tend to think in human terms, as though a son, like our sons, are separate beings. How might I explain that better? Also, is circumcision and wearing of phallictories needed by gentile believers? How about the yomaca ? I also have questions about those who are treating the term " Christian as a dirty word, as well as the name, Jesus, even though it appears Paul used it. I have been told that some people are told if they pray in the name of Jesus , that are praying to the devil, to Zeus. Also, there are many cultures that have restaurants, so this idol issue is very applicable to us today. Many confusing things. May the Holy Raucb give us Wisdom from above to please Him in all things. Thank- you for this important discussion.
Thank you for your interest and comment. the best information on how Paul and 1st Century Jews understood the relationship of Jesus to the Shema. this short video Speaking on the work of David Capes. a playlist of a longer discussion of these issues by David is found in the description just click on more to see the link to David Capes lectures. my video is not listed but available using the link. ua-cam.com/video/7vbtnMVZGvM/v-deo.html
Can someone help me out. I was confused on Rabbis explanation So can a gentile believer eat pork and not be sin. At 53:00 and on I think he said gentiles can eat pork.
for those who want to read this in English How unfortunate that they do not have subtitles and the possibility of translating into Spanish. How awful Sorry Jose
The revelation of the mystery was committed to Paul. In his writings alone we find the doctrine, position, walk and destiny of the church. Paul’s mysteries revealed 1. Romans 11:11-25: Israel is fallen, blind, and has no standing. 2. 1 Corinthians 12:13, 2 Corinthians 5:17: a new creature, neither Jew nor Gentile has been created. 3. Colossians 1:25-28, Ephesians 3:1-10: the Body of Christ has standing and is God's agency as ambassadors with the word of reconciliation. 4. Ephesians 1:9-10, Colossians 1:16: God's purpose for all creation is revealed. 5. Romans 3:24-25, 6:14, Ephesians 2:8-9: Christ paid for all sin with His death, burial and resurrection without the works of the law. 6. 1 Corinthians 15:51-56,1 Thessalonians 4:13-18: the Body of Christ will reside in heavenly places and will not reign with Christ and Israel on the Earth.
in reference to George Goldman's comment about Acts 15:10, i.e. the question of circumcision and "placing a yoke upon the neck of the disciples that neither our fathers or we have been able to bear". I believe Peter does not mean the Torah or the Law upon the necks of the fathers, Israel, but the discrimination and vilification by the uncircumcised. The fact that circumcision separated Jews from Gentile pollution and corruption made them a target of vilification from the pagan world. The Torah is holy and just and good. As a result of the yoke of the Torah, Israel became a target of disparagement and abuse, a very difficult yoke to bear.
The isdiue with peter was simple it wasnt about eating with the gentiles and anyone reads there bible knows peter only ate kosher food....the isdiue was sitting with the gentiles....the circumcision group that arrived held traditions that they didnt sit or eat with gentiles peter feared them and moved table....before this in acts when he wrnt into cirnelius house the gentile...the circumsised back in jerusalem rebuked peter for entering a gentiles house until peter made his defence...paul then rebukes peter for not acting acvording to the gospel saved gentiles and jews are jystified by faith..and are brothers one in messiah.......and peter fir that moment feared the circumcision group who held traditions not to eat with gentiles
if they did not here, Joseph has dealt with it in other places. The context reveals it was a vision given to Peter to prepare him for the visit from the Gentiles coming. it had nothing to do with food laws. He says this in several places that the vision had to do with men God was calling unclean and the Holy Spirit outpouring on these Gentiles confirmed the meaning of the vision according to Peters recounting the story in several places after the event.
Yes you need to differentiate a vision from a command. Many visions on the Bible can’t be taken literal why people don’t want to stop eating bacon if a pig is just like a big rat??🙈
good point but a rebuttal would be Abraham did not have the instruction given to Moses. But his Covenant was not nullified when the Sinai Covenant was later given. God promised in Genesis 15 he would accomplish everything to bring about the promises. At Sinai Israel promised to keep the Covenant but quickly violated it. Abraham's Covenant was based upon better promises. It was a type for the New Covenant where God through the Messiah kept his promise to Abraham and Israel's promise to God fulfilling Israel's obligation. .
is an Arabic term, first developed in pre-Islamic Arabia, crescent moon--specifically, the very slight crescent moon that is first visible after a new moon.
this is not a knock to you personally, the GOD OF THE BIBLE AND THE QUARN ARE TWO DIFFERENT GODS, AND THE GOD OF THE BIBLE YAHWEH OR ELOHIM, NOT ALLAH THE MOON GOD OF THE MEDIANS
Thank you YESHUA Jesus christ for blinding Saul nor Paul. Who is from Old GARMENT left his position like YESHUA. Used to persecute. Followers of the blameless one who lived again!'
No one talk about blessing the food in name of YESHUA HAMASHIACH before eating I think all curse is going go way if you pray same like body of people got cure from Yeshua,everything sick got whole .
I prefer to look at Paul as bringing the fuller understanding to the faith of Abraham and the faithfulness of God to complete his covenantal promises through His Son becoming Abraham's seed and blessing the whole world through the line of Judah. So instead of bringing an end he brought out the true meaning of it. which is It's completion in the Messiah.
The proud Rabbi has to slow it down and go on tangents. Acts 26:28-29 - Then Arippa said to Paul "Do you think that in such a short time you can persuade me to be a CHRISTIAN?" Paul replied "Short time or long - I pray to God that not only you but all who are listening to me today may become WHAT I AM, except for these chains". But he does say some interesting things:)
the term Christian was a derogatory word used by others to describe Messianic believers like Paul that named themselves as followers of the Way. interesting to note Paul's reply. "what I am" they were still not calling themselves Christian at the time.
Jan Uddin I agree with you. Acts 11:26 the disciples were first called "Christians" in Antioch. The first Gentile converts occurred with Cornelius and company in Acts 10/11. One could say that this name is in fulfillment of Isaiah 62:1-4, with this new name following the first Gentile converts. Of course Peter also seems not to consider this name too degrading (1 Peter 4:16).
@@fleetwd1 That maybe so, but I have never liked the term, and prefer messianic, in actual fact, it was derived from the word Christos, which wasn't translated from the Greek, I was born a non Jew, but had to be circumcised due to a physical problem as a small child, that a Jew does make me, but it enabled me to take part in a pesach meal when I visited Jerusalem over 20yrs ago, as a stranger in the camp during passover, I explored the old city for the period I was there, and spoke to many interesting people. I was born in, and live in the UK, the only child of working class parents, it was Dr Shalum that drew me here, as I can empathise with his beliefs concerning "Jesus". Yeshua in Hebrew, meaning salvation. Thank you for posting this debate. Shalom.
@@fleetwd1 sorry Paul was not a messianic follower of Yeshua. He was a Pharisee trying to prevent Gentiles from converting to Judaism. He has been extremely successful in his endeavor.
Is Paul really hard to understand? I guess yes if you mix Judaism and Christianity. Does Judaism have a role to play with Christianity? If you swallowed hook, line, and sinker the Dispensationalism teaching of the Jesuits then you'll fall into this dilemma and wait for the third temple as your blessed hope.
Obviously superior knowledge. He could read in a time when only a few could. There were closer ties to the Temple priesthood than is acknowledged. Jesus was at the Temple preaching.
Acts 21:21 plus other parallels...taking all into one account it confirms that Paul taught and lived different than the regular Torah observing jew or even pharisee. The second explanation would be that the NT is corrupted.
you are reading false charges against Paul in Acts 21:21 you need to be careful when you give weight to Scripture. you must beware of the context and intent. Luke defends against these false accusations and records in many other places that Paul was observant. Paul shows how Torah teaches Abraham was to be Father to all nations and was given the covenant of promise formalized in Genesis 15 some 30 years before he and his household were circumcised. The Apostles agreed not to burden the Gentiles with circumcision (See verse 25) they also asked Paul to take part in a Nazarite vow to prove these claims against him were false and he did. (see Verses 23-24). the context is extremely important to understanding any text.
@@fleetwd1 No, I can't agree with your statements. There are enough evidence in the Scriptures to prove that Paul did not observe the Torah in the way as rabbies did. He did pretend to be based on the situations he did face in order to avoid fatal conflicts with angry jews as we can see in Acts 21 and 24:18 etc. And as the lawyer I would say that Paul did follow the the hidden transaction principle which rules the actual intentions and acts not the seemed ones, 1 Cor 9:19-23.
No There are a lot of New testament Fragments from the 2 Century.... so,it was not a later invention there are a lot of Jewishness in the New Testament.. so, it cant be a Greek thing according to most Academics and Historians : Jesus really existed as a Jewish Rabi living in Israel in the 1 Century theres nothing of Greek mythology in the New Testament Doctrines and Faith.
Paul did not do Judaism after converting to the true TaNaK gospel , who also brings the Good News of Messiah, Who came to accomplish part of what He said He would do, and Paul completely obeyed Torah! A true Pharisee. And Messiah obeyed every bit of Torah and explained it. Did Nicodemus repent? He did not know what it meant to be born again and was supposed to have. King David had salvation and all the prophets did, it was not new. Constantine was the beginning of a church. Much Shalom! And much Ahabah!
@@lostnfoundllc Kings with harems never seem to end well. Solomon ended up worshiping the idols of his women and not Yehovah. Solomon started well but finished badly. Xerxes had a harem but went single woman man because Vashti disrespected him at a party. Yehovah stopped a plot to exterminate the Jews using Xerxes new and better woman, Hadassah. Xerxes started badly but ended well because he disbanded the harem.
I'm now a one woman, i should say no woman man because the lord God has come for me, he completely pulled me out of almost marrying a girl that was toxic by giving me eyes to see ears to hear, my heart crushed for literally no reason no closure other than in bringing me back to and closer than ever to The lord God almighty. 1luv1heart namaste
Wow, Joseph Shulam read a different bible than I did! The Pharisees believed, and still do, that the oral law supersedes the Torah. Karaite Judaism, the type of Judaism Yeshua followed and taught was that we all have a personal responsibility for determining what was the original Torah by examining the prophets who tell us how the scribes have changed the Torah. I cannot believe that this man would try to convince anyone that Yeshua was a Pharisee. It is certainly not supported by any of the eyewitness testimony to Yeshua's teachings or ministry.
Jesus seemed to have an escatology and view of the afterlife that is more aligned with the pharisees than the karaites(who did not exist at that time).
@@beslanintruder2077 Me thinks you have no idea what it means to be a Karaite and that you are attributing the teaching of the Pharisee Paul to the teaching of Yeshua. Contrary to what you have been taught in church, almost all of the writings we have in the NT that are not from John were collected by Luke as he tracked Paul down for the murder of Stephen who according to the Jews that came to the trial from Jerusalem to witness was actually Jesus. The copies we use of Matthew and Mark show obvious changes made by Paul in them. According to James, who likely went by the title Yeshua, it was time for the lost sheep of the house of Israel to come home by becoming Torah observant. Paul throughout his teachings, like all Pharisees, wants all Gentiles, Israelites or not, to only obey the Noahide laws, not become full-fledged Jews. What Gentiles fail to recognize about Rabbinic Judaism is that Gentiles view Judaism as a religion where conversion is possible. Where Jews consider their religion as what makes them a distinct nationality with a desire to stay separate even if it offends God. Shalom
@@beslanintruder2077 My understanding of the term Karaite is that the scribes have changed the written Torah and that when we stand before God we are each personally responsible for knowing what those changes are. If we look to other people for understanding like rabbis or priests we will be deceived. In my opinion, what Yeshua taught us is that the prophets alone speak for God. When many prophets tell something is in conflict with the teachings in the Torah the scribes have changed that. Do you know of the Documentary Hypothesis? Since there is no leadership of a church or set doctrine in the Karaite Way followers believe what they can defend attempting to end all cognitive dissonance about God. I think universally Karaites believe in what you might call a day of judgment, but I do not think my idea of a day of Judgment is even close to any Christians or even many Jews. As for the Resurrection, I personally believe it is only for a few. I do not think God is omnipotent as I was always told. Instead, I believe he created this world as a source for souls that truly desire to serve him over their own passions and pleasures. I see judgment day as a bunch of one-way doors where a person must make a choice. The first one may be how many gods are there? Options 0, 1, many, 3 in 1. There is only one. Is there anyone at all that you believe does not belong in God's Kingdom? The answer is no. Last question What do you want for lunch? Will it be Kosher, Vegetarian, or do you like pork or shellfish? Those that answered either of the first two questions wrong or ate of God's pets will go to sleep forever and those that pass the test will be added to his servants. Shalom
❤❤❤❤❤❤💕 There was no separate "Christian" name in most of Paul's time and had to play to his crowd. He was a Christian, which is a fulfilled Israel. Shulam is great but always defensive over Jewishness, and isn't supposed to be anymore.
I disagree… with whom did God say He would make a New Covenant…? Israel and the house of Judah… As gentiles we are grafted into THEIR covenants God made with them, Jesus was/is a Jew (of the tribe of Judah), a son of Israel, and from the house of David (a king of the Jewish people)… God made His covenants with Israel and never divorced them as is the common Christian traditional interpretation of the prophets. We are guests and adopted into the family of Israel. The Jewishness of our faith is extremely important to understand, grasp and uphold.
Profiling to men they will be dizzy the important thing is the mesage of JESUS throu him Paul was only a voice like John the Baptist. They were appointed by GOD!!!
so you mean as a jew when invited to eat in a gentile's house with pork chop menu, in order not to offend the gentile, eat what was served. i dont think so. pork is out of issue, but meat that was offered to idols.
Yes! 1 Corinthians 10 shows they had Messiah/ angel of the Lord/ King YHWH! And they rejected Messiah and they are our example! No he did not remain in circumcision....That is He was saying don’t be coerced into it. Circumcision won’t make you a me,near! It must come from hearing the word of Moses though conviction. Yes, but many don’t know what a nazarite consists of. He came back for the Holy Days. They are not hellenists. The conversion is by the CONVICTION! SCRIPTURES are the TaNaK! When Messiah said they err in the SCRIPTURE, not knowing the SCRIPTURE, only the TaNaK existed! It’s what Messiah taught! It was written in Hebrew only! Every language has only one word for Father. Hebrew has two. Call NO MAN Father but your father in heaven. Yet the SCRIPTURE calls Abraham Father. So either the scripture lies or it was written only in Hebrew! Much Shalom and much Ahabah friends! Hugs!
No questtions about who is the true Jew or the true Israel and the true God of the bible (The Father) mmmmm it's much about what to eat or not .... nothing really spiritual except the conclusion moment.
the term Jew comes from when Abraham's great grandson Judah had descendants who ruled Israel as Kings. David and then Solomon were the first Royal decedents of Judah. When Israel broke away from Judean rule, after Solomon's Son oppressed them, the term Jew meant from the Judean territory made up of several tribes that stayed under the Judean kingship. The descendants that came from the breakaway tribes were from Samaria not Judea.
Who is the guy who believes that Allah isn't a again god just because the name is Semitic? POI Baal is also Semitic: by this guy's logic Baal can't be a pagan dirty. Skewed logic.
@@yeshuaischrist9951 PRAISE YAHSHUA THE EMPHASIS THERE WAS THE WASHING OF THE HANDS NOT FOOD. THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN EATING FOOD. YAHSHUA SAYS THE COMMANDMENTS ARE HIS (YOCHANAN/JOHN 14:15, 14:21, 14:23) WHICH WILL INCLUDE THE FOOD LAWS, SO TO SUGGEST THAT HE FORBIDS CERTAIN MEATS FOR HIS CREATION AND THEN BREAKS HIS OWN LAW BY EATING THESE MEATS AND CONDONING THIS INDULGENCE IS REDICULOUS. SHALOM.
Thank you, Mark Lanier, for your dedication to sharing these wonderful videos. Shalom Aleichem
Thanks for having this debate, I am a Gentile Christian and love the Lord Jesus and also pray for the Jews
Amen, they need our prayers. Thank God for Rabbi Joseph Shulam and One for Israel ministry. And all who are helping to bring more back to faith, men such as Dr. James Tour
Wowwww!!! Rabbi Shulam's response is the most impressive comment (1:25:10 - 1:26:46) dealing with the aftermath attributed to The Lamb Of God our Lord Yeshua Hamashiach. All Glory and Praises to ABBA Father for His wonderful and beautiful work of salvation for us that are undeserving. Hallelujah to the King Jesus and Our Heavenly Father. We love you and cant wait to be in your arms.
I would love to sit at this table. So much confusion that could be easily cleared up. If for no other reason, because of the love and respect shared amongst these men, I believe they would have ears to hear and eyes to see.
Dr.Shulman have a great explanation and he defended his position with scripture and Jewish cultural tradition.
I learned from rabbi Joseph Shulam he explained very well Thanks to Abba YHWH and for His Son YAHSHUA ...long time I search a good Teachers now I found ..and now I back to study the TORAH
very good
His name is Yeshua.
Paul became all things to all men that they may be saved. He did that beautifully without losing his identity as. Jew. As we all know, he was a very learned man. He taught the Gentiles Torah and rest of the Tanach which makes perfect sense! It's what you do when you disciple totally pagan people! From what I read, Yeshua did not abolish the Torah but upheld it. To the glory of Elohim the Father. Very interesting discussion thank you!
I disagree, or actually I'd say Paul would disagree. In one of Paul's epistles he says there is no jew or greek in Christ Jesus and Paul was definitely in Christ. The problem is obvious to me what the problem is that jews have a problem with Paul and that's pride. Paul was personally sent by Jesus and Jesus says if people don't receive those he sends then they don't receive him nor the Father. I'm so tired of people thinking just because they've studied for years they think they know something. 1st corinthians 8:2 and if any man think that he knows anything he knows nothing yet as he ought to know."
@@nikao7751 The original poster is saying that, I think: Paul taught the true Torah message, but was saying it the right way to reach each group. But Shulam is still holding onto "Jewishness" as special.
@@clarekuehn4372 I believe we need to be precise with the whole counsel of God, and after reading the original comment here I noticed that they wrote that Jesus did not abolish the law but upheld it, but that's not what Jesus says, he says he fulfilled it and that's a big difference, and one of the things I get from Jesus saying not one jot or title shall pass is that we are to take the scriptures seriously and use precision and remain teachable and correctable so as to get at the truth and heart of a matter.
Neither are right or wrong. R. Shulam is absolutely correct in that neither Paul Nor believing Jews, not even the Gentile believers called themselves Christian's. Those were the Greeks that called this group Christians. From what I read and continue to study, it is clear to me that the Gentiles were grafted into the Olive Tree. The more I study, it becomes clear to me that a new religion called Christianity was not the intent of Yeshua.
I think this could be true, that it is meant to be an enlargement of Judaism to the world. It is really significant that so many Jews are now believing Yeshua was the Messiah and many Christians like me are now becoming really awake to the origins of their faith, it seems to me like something important is happening. I think the true faith is being revealed to everyone and we will finally come together!
Ileana Serra
Very well said sister. May the peace, joy, hope & love of our Lord Yeshua Hamashiach be with you.
if Apostles or Paul did not like to call themselves as Christians, then they would have protested not to call them as Christians. Even before Agrippa he would have objected, rather he wished him to follow Christ. This is not a head breaking issue . The issue is Constantine's take over of the Church authority and made a paradigm of making it as religion and bringing corruption.
Awesome! So much to learn yet!
What a blessing that the young-man Jew on the plane met this Christian man with a degree in Hebrew. Bridges!!! 😍
Please pray for me to be used by God to do his Holy Work. Thank God
Surely Ailina, you will be used of the Lord, greatly.
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This is like eating Kobe Steak!!! Love it & much appreciate this upload. >
it is a pleasure
Fantastic! Selah!
Enjoyed everyone except the commentator.....he was seen with an angry expression several times on the camera behind the speakers.....
I say this in Brotherly love, and just as a reminder that in a place where Jesus is being discussed, an angry expression takes away from the sincerity......but all in all, the best speaker was Rabbi Joseph. Thank you for this and God bless you all!🕊🙋♀️🙏✝️✡️💖
I can assure you he was not at all angry. He funds these discussions at his own expense and they are a highlight of his for spiritual growth which he offers freely to the world. His expressions could be do to his concentration on what is being said and where he plans to lead the discussion from there. But angry he is not. I attended in person and can vouch for this.
In 1:03 on in reference to the Letter of the book of Acts, it shows clearly in the following verse (21) that the law of Moshe (The whole Torah) is to be implemented as it is learned every Shabat. This is one of the main problems with Christianity that always stops or refers to a text out context or without continuity to the point thereby, excluding certain convenient words to advance a doctrine without the Torah.
The Torah is the way of life, the Torah is Yahshuah, the word that became flesh, (Jn 1:14)
that came not to avoid the Torah but to complete it and fulfill it (Mat 5:17-19)
Rom 2:13, 1Jn 2:3-6,
Mat 7:21-27, Rom 3:31
There are many more examples but these are the obvious ones.
The Seventh-Day Adventist has been preaching to the Cristians church that God’s law is love and he never changed- and we must keep the ten comments because of our love for him. The Catholic Church changed the holy sabbath for the worship of the Sun Day. Go back to history and see the truth, that Peter never violated the law of God. Thanks for this amazing message.
Sda follows Ellen G White....not Jesus. Many mistake them for Christianity, but they are in fact a cult as Lucky Man said
@@rexmontana3058 Christians follow Paul, not Yeshua! What Yeshua taught was Karaite Judaism, not Christianity.
Shalom
Great discussion, with Rabbi Shulam and his deeper Jewish understanding. Though what I don't understand is why some theological scholars could not see that Allah is not another name for Jehovah, irrespective of contrary evidences in the bible.
Joeseph is just sitting there begging for his turn to give the correct meaning & interpretation on the subject.
So wise be he.
Rabbi Shulam rand circles around them with wisdom in The World.
GOD BLESS YOU ALL!!!🌎📖👀👂☝
Diverse background of the panel made for an interesting and informative discussion.
Saul (Paul) was thoroughly Jewish.
Interesting that the Lord called him to the gentile world. 🌍
Most people undetstand scripture but try hard to hope and convince themselves no i dont have to obey that and come up with all debates ..a true believer delights in finding scripture he must obey....all churches i have enteted do thete best to convince themselves scriptures they are to obey they dont have to ...
true. a few typos but understandable.
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PAUL humilliated Peter, not following JESUS' process to speak first with Peter apart, then with witnesses & only then in public;
But, in Paul's letter, written to GALATIANS 1, Paul confesses his low steem about the 12 Apostles and he saw no need to receive JESUS' teachings directly from the 12 Apostles, only trusting in his revelations & interpretation of scriptures.
This gap was the beginning of different Denominations & a split between JESUS's teachings & Paul's pharisee doctrines.
While JESUS' teachings & paraboles are supposed to be the ROOT of His Approved Disciples:
💞LOVE ONE ANOTHER 🕊
Paul was the most cosmopolitan character of the Bible based on I Cor. 9:20-22.
This is enlightening.
Thank you..
I have to disagree with Dr. Shulam on many things, but one is why should Christians be considered Pharisees? Didn't the Essenes believe the supernatural, believe in miracles, believe in angels, believe in the resurrection? One hundred years before Jesus, weren't the Essenes teaching that the Messiah would come when He did, that He would be cut off, that He would be resurrected, and that He would bring an age of grace? Didn't they call the Pharisees the children of darkness? Did Jesus ever say anything positive about the Pharisees? I think a born again Christian has more in common with the Essenes than we do the Pharisees. Honestly, I'm more impressed with Mark Lanier than I am Shulam.
I like that this discussion starts out acknowledging that Paul was a Pharisee who never converted to Christianity.
It is not that Paul's words are hard to understand if we actually come to grips with what he saw as his ministry. Paul actually saw his mission in the latter part of his life as keeping the Gentiles from converting to Judaism by telling them that they could follow Yeshua without becoming Torah observant. Paul's message to the Gentiles was that they could be "saved by grace through faith alone that Jesus died for their sins."
This directly contradicts the corroborated eyewitness testimony of Yeshua's brother James, and his two hand-picked disciples Matthew the tax collector and Peter through the hand of Mark. Both of whom documented that what Yeshua taught was that to not be offensive to God a person must not only become Torah observant as the Torah is now written. Each person is personally responsible for searching the prophets to determine where the scribes have changed the Torah and living by what they believe the original instructions given by God through Moshe at Mount Sinai were.
That there is one further step each person must take to actually receive eternal life. They must forgive each and every person God sends to teach them a hard lesson or test our love for Him. Yeshua could not be more clear that the God he serves will forgive you exactly as you have forgiven the people who have offended you the most.
Shalom
Acts 15:5 begins with the question you pose. Acts15:7-11 gives Peter's response, 15:13-21 gives James response. 15:22-29 shows the whole congregation's response. Apparently your assessment Paul's teaching is directly contradicted by James, Peter and other disciples is not the record according to Acts 15 where the question is addressed by the congregation in Jerusalem. .
@@fleetwd1 you do understand that acts of the apostles was written by Luke who tells you he never met Yeshua or any of his disciples. Luke is simply repeating rumors which we are told through the Torah and through, the Torah that is written upon our heart, we are not supposed to accept as the truth. Neither Peter nor James is speaking in acts of the apostles! You are simply repeating rumors when you say that they were!
Acts of the Apostles is written for the sole purpose of promoting Paul who was attempting to, and did his job very well, keep Gentiles from converting to Judaism. It seems that as one of Paul's many followers he has successfully dissuaded you from following Yeshua too.
I do really appreciate your channel even if I think all of your guests speak incredibly poorly about the God they claim to follow!
Shalom
@@tombutler7296 shalom
Shalom Aleichem this was wonderful, I enjoyed this panel and the Lawyer .shalom
Excellent discussion!
Galatians 2:15-16, 18-19 Paul writes: " We who are Jews by nature and not sinners of the Gentiles, knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law but by faith in Jesus Christ even we have believed in Christ Jesus that we might be justified by faith in Christ and not by the works of the law; for by the works of the law no flesh shall be justified." "For if I build again those things which I have destroyed, I make myself a transgressor. For I through the law died to the law that I might live to God." Gal 3:2-3&5'6 "Did you receive the Spirit by the works of the law or by the hearing of faith? Are you so foolish? Having begun in the Spirit, are you now being made perfect by the flesh? Therefore He who supplies the Spirit to you and works miracles among you, does He do it by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? Just as Abraham believed God and it was accounted to him for righteousness. Therefore know that only those who are of faith are sons of Abraham."
Paul also Writes The Law is Holy yet I am carnal. The Law as a method of obtaining righteousness is what Paul writes against in your texts. However the Law as a standard of judging sin, of instructing us, or of defining doctrine, Paul never opposes. The Law, The Oracles of God, Hebrew Scriptures are God's method of instructing and are not opposed to Spirit for they are Spirit breathed and are Holy, while we are carnal. the problem is not with the Law, or Scripture, it is with us. No one of us can obtain righteousness by following the Law, or Scripture. But the righteousness of God, the righteousness of Christ, which is ours by faith is a gift which the Law and the Prophets attest to and it reveals God's righteousness. His covenantal faithfulness to all who believe. Remember the difference between using it as a method and keeping it as a standard to guide us by. That is important when reading all that Paul and Scripture say about the Law. the negative is using it as a method. the positive is that it always remains as a standard to instruct us by.
Are these gentlemen understand that there were two sets of law that were given to Moses. One which was written by the finger of God, the other was a bunch of ceremonial laws, a shadow that meet its substance in Christ. The lamb that was slain from the foundation of the world. And when Christ died at the cross the heavy veil that separates the holy from the most holy place ripped off from top to bottom, exposing the sacredness of the hloy of holies, signiying that rituals has to cease because its all pointed to Christ. But the moral laws, the ten commandments remain till heaven and earth pass away. I guess Paul knew it.
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was Paul the founder of Christianity?
on UA-cam.
well worth a watch
If you’re not born from above all that you’re yakking about does not matter does not matter does not matter unless you know him
I think the Acts 15 context is completely missed… what’s the first verse say? The issue was a salvation issue…the context was clear…the immediate things was the 4 basics to be saved, but then it says what ? Verse 16-18, then verse 21…it’s pretty clear, start with these 4 then learn the rest as you go, there’s no way anyone including them could know the entire Torah before being saved..
As a 30 year old, I'm saddened to see the audience in the opening scene.
Why?. I see nobody who's around my age or younger. I'm not sure if there is even one person that is less than twice my age in the paused frame that I'm looking at. Are we failing the youth by not preaching the gospel and truth in the world? Are we failing them by keeping God behind the doors of a church?. I know it's God who saves, but where are we falling short as servants?
you are observant.
However these Panel discussions happen in the afternoon on a weekday. the lectures combined with these are evening programs. so the younger attendees are likely working or at school etc., etc., during panel discussions. There are plenty of younger participants in ministries associated with the Library just not on weekdays at 2:30-4 pm.
Excuse me, but the Law(10 commandments)applies to all humans. what Bible do you read?
As Paul was a student of Gamaliel was he influenced by his teachings on divorce? Also if I have to pick between Peter who walked in the yolk of Messiah and Paul who did not and who was influenced by his other Rabbi think I mite be inclined to choose Peter.
good question. But I do not have an answer for you.
Great discusion...
What are they saying that Paul was not a christian. Yes Paul was a Jew, so was Jesus, Jesus came as the Messiah that was promised to the Jews. The name christian was given to the followers of Christ. With Moses God lived in the temple in the Holy of Holies, with Jesus the death and Resurrection and the receiving of the Holy Spirit God now lives inside of us. This is what Paul is expressing throughout all his letters Christ in US the hope of glory. We are now the temple and Jesus Christ (God) now lives inside of us therefore we are called Christians because Christ is in US, but we are truly Israelites. Chosen by God, and called sons of God.
Great panel discussion with much to learn, and re-learn. We gentiles have been grafted into the tree/Israel, but God forbid you tell a Jew that you are now just as much "Israel" as (s)he is! Don't think that would go over well. Jews generally maintain they are the "only ones."
The stumbling stone that appears to be the most problematic, from what I have gathered in my studying, and I am by no means a scholar, is that Jews, for the most part, view Yeshua, Jesus, as being , " another God" thus violating the number one commandment not have have, "other gods" nor idol worship.
As a person who Believes Jesus IS God, not a separate diety; that He is God in the flesh; I find that they will not accept this.
The fact that traditional Judaism rejected Jesus is clearly explained in Psalm 118:22-23.
How might someone explain the term,
" son of God" as explaining who Jesus is,
as the term sounds as if Yeshua is a derivative of God, separate from Him?
We tend to think in human terms, as though a son, like our sons, are separate beings.
How might I explain that better?
Also, is circumcision and wearing of phallictories needed by gentile believers? How about the yomaca ?
I also have questions about those who are treating the term " Christian as a dirty word, as well as the name, Jesus, even though it appears Paul used it.
I have been told that some people are told if they pray in the name of
Jesus , that are praying to the devil, to Zeus.
Also, there are many cultures that have restaurants, so this idol issue is very applicable to us today.
Many confusing things.
May the Holy Raucb give us Wisdom from above to please Him in all things.
Thank- you for this important discussion.
Thank you for your interest and comment. the best information on how Paul and 1st Century Jews understood the relationship of Jesus to the Shema. this short video Speaking on the work of David Capes. a playlist of a longer discussion of these issues by David is found in the description just click on more to see the link to David Capes lectures. my video is not listed but available using the link.
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Can someone help me out.
I was confused on Rabbis explanation
So can a gentile believer eat pork and not be sin.
At 53:00 and on I think he said gentiles can eat pork.
Que lamentable que no tengan subtitulos y la posibilidad de traducir al español. Que mal😪😪
for those who want to read this in English
How unfortunate that they do not have subtitles and the possibility of translating into Spanish. How awful
Sorry Jose
The revelation of the mystery was committed to Paul. In his writings alone we find the doctrine, position, walk and destiny of the church.
Paul’s mysteries revealed
1. Romans 11:11-25: Israel is fallen, blind, and has no standing.
2. 1 Corinthians 12:13, 2 Corinthians 5:17: a new creature, neither Jew nor Gentile has been created.
3. Colossians 1:25-28, Ephesians 3:1-10: the Body of Christ has standing and is God's agency as ambassadors with the word of reconciliation.
4. Ephesians 1:9-10, Colossians 1:16: God's purpose for all creation is revealed.
5. Romans 3:24-25, 6:14, Ephesians 2:8-9: Christ paid for all sin with His death, burial and resurrection without the works of the law.
6. 1 Corinthians 15:51-56,1 Thessalonians 4:13-18: the Body of Christ will reside in heavenly places and will not reign with Christ and Israel on the Earth.
The Catholic Church changed everything
in reference to George Goldman's comment about Acts 15:10, i.e. the question of circumcision and "placing a yoke upon the neck of the disciples that neither our fathers or we have been able to bear".
I believe Peter does not mean the Torah or the Law upon the necks of the fathers, Israel, but the discrimination and vilification by the uncircumcised. The fact that circumcision separated Jews from Gentile pollution and corruption made them a target of vilification from the pagan world. The Torah is holy and just and good. As a result of the yoke of the Torah, Israel became a target of disparagement and abuse, a very difficult yoke to bear.
To the guys that said he will eat food sacrifice to and idol. Question who you served. Their belly is their god.
Brilliant
The isdiue with peter was simple it wasnt about eating with the gentiles and anyone reads there bible knows peter only ate kosher food....the isdiue was sitting with the gentiles....the circumcision group that arrived held traditions that they didnt sit or eat with gentiles peter feared them and moved table....before this in acts when he wrnt into cirnelius house the gentile...the circumsised back in jerusalem rebuked peter for entering a gentiles house until peter made his defence...paul then rebukes peter for not acting acvording to the gospel saved gentiles and jews are jystified by faith..and are brothers one in messiah.......and peter fir that moment feared the circumcision group who held traditions not to eat with gentiles
yes you got it right as did Joseph Shulam. there are a few typos but understood what you meant.
When speaking on the food aspect why did no one talk about Peter and the sheet? Arise kill eat.
if they did not here, Joseph has dealt with it in other places. The context reveals it was a vision given to Peter to prepare him for the visit from the Gentiles coming. it had nothing to do with food laws. He says this in several places that the vision had to do with men God was calling unclean and the Holy Spirit outpouring on these Gentiles confirmed the meaning of the vision according to Peters recounting the story in several places after the event.
Yes you need to differentiate a vision from a command. Many visions on the Bible can’t be taken literal why people don’t want to stop eating bacon if a pig is just like a big rat??🙈
ACTS 15 : 8 to. 11 🌎📖👈😃☝🎼🎵🎶
In Genesis 18: 1-5 we see meat and dairy products being eaten by Abraham guests.
good point but a rebuttal would be Abraham did not have the instruction given to Moses. But his Covenant was not nullified when the Sinai Covenant was later given. God promised in Genesis 15 he would accomplish everything to bring about the promises. At Sinai Israel promised to keep the Covenant but quickly violated it.
Abraham's Covenant was based upon better promises. It was a type for the New Covenant where God through the Messiah kept his promise to Abraham and Israel's promise to God fulfilling Israel's obligation. .
Are fast food restaurants a sacrifice to idols ?
Is the Messiah Psalms chapter 2 ?
is an Arabic term, first developed in pre-Islamic Arabia, crescent moon--specifically, the very slight crescent moon that is first visible after a new moon.
I don't see ant relevance to the video.
this is not a knock to you personally, the GOD OF THE BIBLE AND THE QUARN ARE TWO DIFFERENT GODS, AND THE GOD OF THE BIBLE YAHWEH OR ELOHIM, NOT ALLAH THE MOON GOD OF THE MEDIANS
@@michaelhiggs869 I need a Hebrew teacher to teach me orignAl meaning
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@@michaelhiggs869 why not Joseph shulam
Thank you YESHUA Jesus christ for blinding Saul nor Paul. Who is from Old GARMENT left his position like YESHUA. Used to persecute. Followers of the blameless one who lived again!'
No one talk about blessing the food in name of YESHUA HAMASHIACH before eating
I think all curse is going go way if you pray same like body of people got cure from Yeshua,everything sick got whole .
Paul was pivotal in taking Christianity out of Judaism....He took over from where the martyr, Stephen left.
I prefer to look at Paul as bringing the fuller understanding to the faith of Abraham and the faithfulness of God to complete his covenantal promises through His Son becoming Abraham's seed and blessing the whole world through the line of Judah. So instead of bringing an end he brought out the true meaning of it. which is It's completion in the Messiah.
@@fleetwd1 I erred. Thank you for correcting me! Perhaps, I should have written - out of Judaism's Temple, to Judaism's fulfilment, in Christ.
@@jacksteiner8842 yes very good
The proud Rabbi has to slow it down and go on tangents. Acts 26:28-29 - Then Arippa said to Paul "Do you think that in such a short time you can persuade me to be a CHRISTIAN?" Paul replied "Short time or long - I pray to God that not only you but all who are listening to me today may become WHAT I AM, except for these chains". But he does say some interesting things:)
the term Christian was a derogatory word used by others to describe Messianic believers like Paul that named themselves as followers of the Way. interesting to note Paul's reply. "what I am" they were still not calling themselves Christian at the time.
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I agree with you. Acts 11:26 the disciples were first called "Christians" in Antioch. The first Gentile converts occurred with Cornelius and company in Acts 10/11. One could say that this name is in fulfillment of Isaiah 62:1-4, with this new name following the first Gentile converts. Of course Peter also seems not to consider this name too degrading (1 Peter 4:16).
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That maybe so, but I have never liked the term, and prefer messianic, in actual fact, it was derived from the word Christos, which wasn't translated from the Greek, I was born a non Jew, but had to be circumcised due to a physical problem as a small child, that a Jew does make me, but it enabled me to take part in a pesach meal when I visited Jerusalem over 20yrs ago, as a stranger in the camp during passover, I explored the old city for the period I was there, and spoke to many interesting people.
I was born in, and live in the UK, the only child of working class parents, it was Dr Shalum that drew me here, as I can empathise with his beliefs concerning "Jesus". Yeshua in Hebrew, meaning salvation. Thank you for posting this debate. Shalom.
@@fleetwd1 sorry Paul was not a messianic follower of Yeshua. He was a Pharisee trying to prevent Gentiles from converting to Judaism. He has been extremely successful in his endeavor.
Is Paul really hard to understand? I guess yes if you mix Judaism and Christianity. Does Judaism have a role to play with Christianity? If you swallowed hook, line, and sinker the Dispensationalism teaching of the Jesuits then you'll fall into this dilemma and wait for the third temple as your blessed hope.
What degrees did our MESSIAH have?
the fulness of the Godhead bodily within him.
Obviously superior knowledge. He could read in a time when only a few could.
There were closer ties to the Temple priesthood than is acknowledged. Jesus was at the Temple preaching.
Why would Paul do that.....It was NOT his choice it was Yahawahshi who knock Paul down with the Holy Spirit and made him blind to come to the Truth
Enligjtening
Paul of Tarsus was an imposter, that‘s what Barnabas said.
Acts 21:21 plus other parallels...taking all into one account it confirms that Paul taught and lived different than the regular Torah observing jew or even pharisee. The second explanation would be that the NT is corrupted.
you are reading false charges against Paul in Acts 21:21 you need to be careful when you give weight to Scripture. you must beware of the context and intent. Luke defends against these false accusations and records in many other places that Paul was observant. Paul shows how Torah teaches Abraham was to be Father to all nations and was given the covenant of promise formalized in Genesis 15 some 30 years before he and his household were circumcised. The Apostles agreed not to burden the Gentiles with circumcision (See verse 25) they also asked Paul to take part in a Nazarite vow to prove these claims against him were false and he did. (see Verses 23-24).
the context is extremely important to understanding any text.
@@fleetwd1 No, I can't agree with your statements. There are enough evidence in the Scriptures to prove that Paul did not observe the Torah in the way as rabbies did. He did pretend to be based on the situations he did face in order to avoid fatal conflicts with angry jews as we can see in Acts 21 and 24:18 etc. And as the lawyer I would say that Paul did follow the the hidden transaction principle which rules the actual intentions and acts not the seemed ones, 1 Cor 9:19-23.
@@fleetwd1 Please also read this: www.scielo.org.za/scielo.php?script=sci_arttext&pid=S0259-94222016000300031
@@marek8734 Disagree if you will. it stands with proper exegesis. you do not apply what Satan says to Christ as if it is true. same principle.
Is the New Testament Greek mythology ?
No
There are a lot of New testament Fragments from the 2 Century.... so,it was not a later invention
there are a lot of Jewishness in the New Testament.. so, it cant be a Greek thing
according to most Academics and Historians : Jesus really existed as a Jewish Rabi living in Israel in the 1 Century
theres nothing of Greek mythology in the New Testament Doctrines and Faith.
The attributes of Allah do not correspond with the God of the Bible.
Paul did not do Judaism after converting to the true TaNaK gospel , who also brings the Good News of Messiah, Who came to accomplish part of what He said He would do, and Paul completely obeyed Torah! A true Pharisee. And Messiah obeyed every bit of Torah and explained it.
Did Nicodemus repent? He did not know what it meant to be born again and was supposed to have. King David had salvation and all the prophets did, it was not new.
Constantine was the beginning of a church.
Much Shalom! And much Ahabah!
King Solomon was notorious with his women, one has to wonder how he kept up with all of them.
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Cocaine&opiates, at least that's how i do it sometimes dating several women half my age. 😁❣🤙
@@lostnfoundllc Kings with harems never seem to end well. Solomon ended up worshiping the idols of his women and not Yehovah. Solomon started well but finished badly. Xerxes had a harem but went single woman man because Vashti disrespected him at a party. Yehovah stopped a plot to exterminate the Jews using Xerxes new and better woman, Hadassah. Xerxes started badly but ended well because he disbanded the harem.
I'm now a one woman, i should say no woman man because the lord God has come for me, he completely pulled me out of almost marrying a girl that was toxic by giving me eyes to see ears to hear, my heart crushed for literally no reason no closure other than in bringing me back to and closer than ever to The lord God almighty. 1luv1heart namaste
@@lostnfoundllc Bros before Hoes. Big guy's got your back.
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Wow, Joseph Shulam read a different bible than I did! The Pharisees believed, and still do, that the oral law supersedes the Torah. Karaite Judaism, the type of Judaism Yeshua followed and taught was that we all have a personal responsibility for determining what was the original Torah by examining the prophets who tell us how the scribes have changed the Torah. I cannot believe that this man would try to convince anyone that Yeshua was a Pharisee. It is certainly not supported by any of the eyewitness testimony to Yeshua's teachings or ministry.
Jesus seemed to have an escatology and view of the afterlife that is more aligned with the pharisees than the karaites(who did not exist at that time).
@@beslanintruder2077 Me thinks you have no idea what it means to be a Karaite and that you are attributing the teaching of the Pharisee Paul to the teaching of Yeshua. Contrary to what you have been taught in church, almost all of the writings we have in the NT that are not from John were collected by Luke as he tracked Paul down for the murder of Stephen who according to the Jews that came to the trial from Jerusalem to witness was actually Jesus. The copies we use of Matthew and Mark show obvious changes made by Paul in them.
According to James, who likely went by the title Yeshua, it was time for the lost sheep of the house of Israel to come home by becoming Torah observant. Paul throughout his teachings, like all Pharisees, wants all Gentiles, Israelites or not, to only obey the Noahide laws, not become full-fledged Jews.
What Gentiles fail to recognize about Rabbinic Judaism is that Gentiles view Judaism as a religion where conversion is possible. Where Jews consider their religion as what makes them a distinct nationality with a desire to stay separate even if it offends God.
Shalom
@@tombutler7296 I see what you are saying but do Karaites believe in the Resurrection and a day if judgement?
@@beslanintruder2077 My understanding of the term Karaite is that the scribes have changed the written Torah and that when we stand before God we are each personally responsible for knowing what those changes are. If we look to other people for understanding like rabbis or priests we will be deceived.
In my opinion, what Yeshua taught us is that the prophets alone speak for God. When many prophets tell something is in conflict with the teachings in the Torah the scribes have changed that. Do you know of the Documentary Hypothesis?
Since there is no leadership of a church or set doctrine in the Karaite Way followers believe what they can defend attempting to end all cognitive dissonance about God. I think universally Karaites believe in what you might call a day of judgment, but I do not think my idea of a day of Judgment is even close to any Christians or even many Jews.
As for the Resurrection, I personally believe it is only for a few.
I do not think God is omnipotent as I was always told. Instead, I believe he created this world as a source for souls that truly desire to serve him over their own passions and pleasures. I see judgment day as a bunch of one-way doors where a person must make a choice.
The first one may be how many gods are there? Options 0, 1, many, 3 in 1. There is only one.
Is there anyone at all that you believe does not belong in God's Kingdom? The answer is no.
Last question What do you want for lunch? Will it be Kosher, Vegetarian, or do you like pork or shellfish? Those that answered either of the first two questions wrong or ate of God's pets will go to sleep forever and those that pass the test will be added to his servants.
Shalom
Allah is not a pagan god he says - the moment this supposed Christian caused me to switch off. What's not pagan about worshipping a moon god
PRAISE YAHSHUA WHERE DOES YSHUA DECLARE ALL FOODS CLEAN. WHAT RUBBISH, DID YSHUA EAT ANYTHING AND HE SAYS FOLLOW HIM.
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There was no separate "Christian" name in most of Paul's time and had to play to his crowd. He was a Christian, which is a fulfilled Israel. Shulam is great but always defensive over Jewishness, and isn't supposed to be anymore.
I disagree… with whom did God say He would make a New Covenant…? Israel and the house of Judah…
As gentiles we are grafted into THEIR covenants God made with them, Jesus was/is a Jew (of the tribe of Judah), a son of Israel, and from the house of David (a king of the Jewish people)… God made His covenants with Israel and never divorced them as is the common Christian traditional interpretation of the prophets. We are guests and adopted into the family of Israel. The Jewishness of our faith is extremely important to understand, grasp and uphold.
Profiling to men they will be dizzy the important thing is the mesage of JESUS throu him Paul was only a voice like John the Baptist. They were appointed by GOD!!!
There are explanations about clean & unclean animals : Dr. Walter Veith "clean & unclean".
so you mean as a jew when invited to eat in a gentile's house with pork chop menu, in order not to offend the gentile, eat what was served. i dont think so. pork is out of issue, but meat that was offered to idols.
Pharisee Saul/Paul has hidden Leaven.
Yummy leaven of Pharisee.
Yes! 1 Corinthians 10 shows they had Messiah/ angel of the Lord/ King YHWH! And they rejected Messiah and they are our example!
No he did not remain in circumcision....That is He was saying don’t be coerced into it. Circumcision won’t make you a me,near! It must come from hearing the word of Moses though conviction.
Yes, but many don’t know what a nazarite consists of. He came back for the Holy Days.
They are not hellenists. The conversion is by the CONVICTION!
SCRIPTURES are the TaNaK!
When Messiah said they err in the SCRIPTURE, not knowing the SCRIPTURE, only the TaNaK existed! It’s what Messiah taught!
It was written in Hebrew only! Every language has only one word for Father. Hebrew has two.
Call NO MAN Father but your father in heaven.
Yet the SCRIPTURE calls Abraham Father.
So either the scripture lies or it was written only in Hebrew!
Much Shalom and much Ahabah friends! Hugs!
Allah of Qur'an is not a biblical God.
Law is the expression of Gods characters.
There is no jew or greek in Christ Jesus.
Christians and Jews sitting far away from each other. The christian proffesors definetely are feeling quite unncomfortable!
i was there in person. I think you are reading a bit into that. There were areas that the professors were not well versed on. Joseph handled it well.
No questtions about who is the true Jew or the true Israel and the true God of the bible (The Father) mmmmm it's much about what to eat or not .... nothing really spiritual except the conclusion moment.
Abraham was from Ur of the Chaldeans was not jew. I follow Jesus the old testament is for jew. The secret is call Abafather..
the term Jew comes from when Abraham's great grandson Judah had descendants who ruled Israel as Kings. David and then Solomon were the first Royal decedents of Judah. When Israel broke away from Judean rule, after Solomon's Son oppressed them, the term Jew meant from the Judean territory made up of several tribes that stayed under the Judean kingship. The descendants that came from the breakaway tribes were from Samaria not Judea.
Who is the guy who believes that Allah isn't a again god just because the name is Semitic? POI Baal is also Semitic: by this guy's logic Baal can't be a pagan dirty. Skewed logic.
Jesus said call no man Rabbi..something stinks in this discussion. Do not add or take away from the Holy Word of God.
You all are boring, I rather listen to the Rabbi.
IT'S NOT WHAT ENTERS INTO THE MOUTH THAT DEFILES A PERSON BUT IT'S WHAT PROCEEDS OUT OF THE MOUTH THAT DEFILES THE MAN.
MATTHEW 15:11
@@yeshuaischrist9951 PRAISE YAHSHUA THE EMPHASIS THERE WAS THE WASHING OF THE HANDS NOT FOOD. THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN EATING FOOD. YAHSHUA SAYS THE COMMANDMENTS ARE HIS (YOCHANAN/JOHN 14:15, 14:21, 14:23) WHICH WILL INCLUDE THE FOOD LAWS, SO TO SUGGEST THAT HE FORBIDS CERTAIN MEATS FOR HIS CREATION AND THEN BREAKS HIS OWN LAW BY EATING THESE MEATS AND CONDONING THIS INDULGENCE IS REDICULOUS. SHALOM.
The Rabbi ain't no Rabbi...
He does not claim to be even though he completed training as a Rabbi. He knows the culture and respects it.
issac brott and your Rabbi has taught you what?