The Ordinary Salicylic Acid, Which Is Best? | Doctorly Reviews

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    0:00 Intro
    0:52 Benefits of salicylic acid
    2:17 Salicylic acid masque
    4:18 Salicylic acid solution
    6:40 Salicylic acid anhydrous solution

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  • @khalilahd.
    @khalilahd. 2 роки тому +747

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    • @Doctorly
      @Doctorly  2 роки тому +72

      Ahh thanks for trusting us Khalilah!

    • @parisinthe30sx
      @parisinthe30sx 2 роки тому +1

      Have you tried Paula's choice 1% retinol? I was thinking about trying it because nothing else seems to work for me

    • @riecheltabot6813
      @riecheltabot6813 2 роки тому +6

      @@parisinthe30sx did you try the 0.3% retinol from paula's choice yet? 1% might be harsh for your skin. Ooh to notice if a product works, apply 2hrs before you go to bed(for absorption of product to your skin). You will notice if a product is working after 2-6months. No magic, it takes time before you see results

    • @crissymiller4951
      @crissymiller4951 2 роки тому

      which paula products u use?

    • @riecheltabot6813
      @riecheltabot6813 2 роки тому +4

      @@crissymiller4951 for retinol paula's choice, i use the 0.3% retinol + 2% bakuchiol treatment. It works for me.
      I also use paula's choice 2% BHA liquid exfoliant(contains salicylic acid). For my body i use paula choice weightless body treatment 2%BHA.

  • @RebeccaWife1Mom4
    @RebeccaWife1Mom4 2 роки тому +22

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    @teletubbiestunetwister9570 2 роки тому +132

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    • @Doctorly
      @Doctorly  2 роки тому +30

      Thank you so much :) Ahh this comment made my day

    • @jojo-dv3uy
      @jojo-dv3uy 2 роки тому

      any tips ?? out of your experience 🙄🙄
      victim of acne since 2010🤧

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    Congrats on the million subscribers! Ordinarily with my skin I would never be referred to a dermatologist considering the worst my skin ever encountered is some sabaceous filaments. That's why I absolutely love your video's so much. I can truly buy effective products instead of wasting money on ineffective expensive creams with weird ingredients and now know how to tailor my facecare beyond "do I have oily or dry skin". Thank you so much for the education and here is to your next million subscribers!

  • @xXNibiNoNekoXx
    @xXNibiNoNekoXx 2 роки тому +40

    I'm so happy for you guys. 😭 I started following around spring 2021 and you've helped my skin so much. I'm actually seeing a dermatologist now, not blindly being frustrated with my skin anymore like I have for 10 years (dry, sensitive, acne prone).
    Wishing you all the best! ❤️ And once again, thank you.

  • @estefaniaxo
    @estefaniaxo 2 роки тому +11

    You both have saved my skin care life and I couldn’t thank you both enough. I have referred you both to many friends and family as well and they are so appreciative. 🙏🏼 THANK YOU again and congratulations on the 1 million subscribers. You both deserve it and much more 😊

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    Congratulations on the plaque!! I found your channel a little over a year ago while I was sick with Covid for the first time (yeah, I got it a 2nd time). Your videos kept me entertained and well-informed while I was totally miserable. Thank you!

  • @BeyonKasual
    @BeyonKasual 2 роки тому +194

    I'm so glad Dr. Shah brought up how to use the masque in the T-zone only. I'm one of those people who aren't acne-prone but definitely have blackheads and large pores.
    Congratulations on the Million Subbies plaque!!

    • @Doctorly
      @Doctorly  2 роки тому +29

      Yesss! I'm glad you found that helpful, and thank you for the support:)

    • @mominahameed611
      @mominahameed611 2 роки тому +1

      I have the same problem and I love hik for saying this!

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    • @morgianasartre6709
      @morgianasartre6709 2 роки тому +13

      Thank you for the tip 😊

    • @vallerianredha8822
      @vallerianredha8822 2 роки тому +34

      Yes,I never use cotton pad to apply toner/essence,it always soak up the product

    • @chaoticgood8645
      @chaoticgood8645 2 роки тому +4

      Does it last 8 months with the standard size (4 oz) or the value size (8 oz)? I've been wanting to try it for months but haven't made the jump for the price and how long it would last me.

    • @RiginaPhalange
      @RiginaPhalange 2 роки тому +5

      @@chaoticgood8645 I've been using the small bottle for over 6 months and it's still half way there

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      What does it do?

  • @aundrealauzon
    @aundrealauzon 2 роки тому +1

    Huge congratulations on 1 million subscribers. So happy for you Doctors!

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    This might be the first time I've seen dry, sensitive, acne prone in one product and yes! I always need more of those options 🙌

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    @amandacapel9954 2 роки тому +3

    congrats you guys, and thanks for educating me on treating my acne and "mature" skin!

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    Congrats on 1 mil! Well deserved ❤️ Look forward to watching the next million(s) collect with you as well. ✨

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    I love how you guys give us all the info we need to customize our routine. I’ve learned so much in the past 2 years. ❤️

  • @eimankhan630
    @eimankhan630 2 роки тому +7

    The masque was something I've been eyeing on for my oily skin but didn't know if it would work - now I know! 😊

  • @Phoebabyyy
    @Phoebabyyy 2 роки тому +101

    You guys are amazing! You’ve been the reason I’m interested in the dermatology field :)

    • @Doctorly
      @Doctorly  2 роки тому +30

      stick with it! it's the best!

  • @Cynthia_Ann
    @Cynthia_Ann 2 роки тому +3

    Congratulations on your
    1 million subscribers.
    I sure love your program.
    Thank you both for making
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    fun 💎 💙 💎

  • @jeanne8264
    @jeanne8264 2 роки тому +1

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  • @venusjunebug1058
    @venusjunebug1058 2 роки тому

    Wow! Amazing wonderful news. Congratulations Dr Shaw and Dr Maxfield. You guys make skin care fun and accessible. Love love your banter and great friendship.

  • @LaJessChelle
    @LaJessChelle 2 роки тому +108

    I’ve been really enjoying the anhydrous solution. It’s completely non-irritating for my dry, sensitive, acne-prone skin!

    • @TheRealNehan
      @TheRealNehan 2 роки тому +1

      Does it make your face appear shiny?

    • @LaJessChelle
      @LaJessChelle 2 роки тому +6

      @@TheRealNehan Yeah… just like any oil does. I personally like to look as shiny as possible… but, of course… it’s not for everyone.

    • @jjk1990
      @jjk1990 2 роки тому

      do you use it everyday or only some days a week?

    • @LaJessChelle
      @LaJessChelle 2 роки тому +1

      @@jjk1990 I use it every morning since my skin can tolerate it just fine.

    • @saraabed3292
      @saraabed3292 2 роки тому

      How many drops do you use for the face and neck?

  • @dmv2258
    @dmv2258 9 місяців тому +3

    I was just in the store 2 days ago( Canada) and I wanted to buy one of these products but had no idea which one would suit me best. I ended up not buying any and I am very happy, because now I have seen this video and it explains it so well! Thank you both, love all of the videos you both put out.

  • @Rebel_AF
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  • @tinat232
    @tinat232 2 роки тому +4

    Definitely going to try the mask! As a former nose strip user it sounds like a great alternative! My cheeks are pretty sensitive so I don't like a leave on. Thanks for the tip dr. Shaw

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    You guys are such wonderful people for providing this for others for free this means so much to us who bought the product or are wanting to buy it . Thank you so much 🙌🏾

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    I'm so happy I found you guys....try to learn what to use on my skin has been so daunting that I chose to do nothing but I'm getting older and would like to keep my skin healthy......you guys have taught me so much and I would like to thank you for taking the time to share you knowledge in a fun and nonstuffy way😀😀

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    @amandastraight8640 2 роки тому +9

    I watch you guys faithfully but I have to say I’m still so confused on products and how to incorporate them. Would love a video on different routines and your favorite products that can be used in that routine for AM/PM please, that would help tremendously ❤️❤️

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    @tugbatas8330 2 роки тому +1

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    @Krystalc 2 роки тому

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  • @rozmehrbagherinia1072
    @rozmehrbagherinia1072 2 роки тому +3

    I have been using the Neutrogena salicylic acid for 2 years now but it is only 15 ml and I run out very quickly. It works well but I have been dying to try the standard salicylic acid solution of ordinary. I have used a bunch of their products and my favorite is the alpha arbutin. Congrats on the Gold Play Button!!!!! :) we love you guys !!!

  • @AmyWhitworth1990
    @AmyWhitworth1990 2 роки тому +2

    To echo what others have said, your advice has revolutionised my skin. It’s never been so healthy, glowing and clear. Never thought my skin would look so good at 31! ❤️ thank you!

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    @jing1528 2 роки тому +1

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    @DanielaBoard72 2 роки тому

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    @_noed 2 роки тому +1

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    @marieve5394 2 роки тому

    I learn something every time I watch your video. Thank you for all the work you put into your videos.

  • @lakelorain
    @lakelorain 2 роки тому

    Congratulations on your million subscriber plaque. Well deserved. Your videos are educational and fun.

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    @dannycaliforni4780 Рік тому +2

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    @graceeslinger5322 2 роки тому

    I love The Ordinary products! Thanks guys!

  • @xtina6569
    @xtina6569 2 роки тому +5

    I'm 37 and struggle with adult acne, tried sooo many moisturizers and found the Neutrogena clear and defend with salicylic acid cleared my skin. But it's expensive to buy every 2 weeks and you don't get much in a tube. So I'm going to try the ordinary salicylic acid in squalene. My skin is breaking out a bit from retinol and I like to use salicylic acid on my nights off from it. Thanks for this helpful vid guys, love from Australia!

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    @tylerwestcoast5862 2 роки тому +3

    Just discovered these 2 , their chemistry is amazing! Great video!!!

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    Congratulations on your million subcriber plaque! I watch your videos and find them so helpful.

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    @debster7100 2 роки тому

    Great info and education about these products! You guys are awesome and always make me laugh…and I learn something with every video! Congrats on One Million+ subscribers!

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    @beatricesimon2013 2 роки тому

    Congratulations on your 1 million subscribers, You deserve it.

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    @christinemangan7642 2 роки тому

    Congratulations! Thank you for all the educational content.

  • @miznaali7329
    @miznaali7329 2 роки тому

    Congratulations! Dr. Shah, Dr. Max. Love your contents.

  • @theresamoser2432
    @theresamoser2432 2 роки тому

    So excited for you amazing guys 1 Million Subscribers. You always make me smile and I learn so much also.

  • @melissadobroski1981
    @melissadobroski1981 2 роки тому

    I have sensitive rosacea skin and your videos have helped me so much! Thank you ❤️

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    @jacquelynwathen8676 2 роки тому

    Congratulations…..what a special award and well deserved Keep it going.

  • @iggybiggy821
    @iggybiggy821 2 роки тому

    LOL!!!! The "butterfly mask" on the nose!!! Yay One Million....and so quickly!! I'm so proud of you guys!

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    @elenavilla4547 2 роки тому

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    @roseanndiguglielmo7647 2 роки тому

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  • @shiaobling
    @shiaobling 2 роки тому

    Congrats on 1 million subscribers!

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    @cretue1701 2 роки тому

    Congratulations 🎊 👏🏼 💐 🥳 😇!! Just saw the originals and shared one *3 step face routine* with my high school nephews!!

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    @na01k03 2 роки тому

    Congratulations!!! I really enjoy watching your channel.

  • @erikaontiveros7876
    @erikaontiveros7876 2 роки тому +5

    Anhydrous solution has improved my skin appearance and texture. Thank you guys for giving me confidence and for all the education. Congratulations!! 👏

  • @adellemedberry843
    @adellemedberry843 2 роки тому

    👏 congratulations 🎊 on your million subscribers! I love your videos and an changing some things in my skin routine due to your videos, anti aging is my jam!

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    @cristaschindler6570 2 роки тому +1

    Awesome 😎 thanks for the giveaway opportunity

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    @camarona83 2 роки тому

    Congrats on the 1K! Love from Costa Rica!

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    @cynthiagalvez6219 2 роки тому

    Oh and congratulations!

  • @elizabethhowland5706
    @elizabethhowland5706 2 роки тому +8

    As a ceramic artist who loves skincare it amuses me and also drives me slightly crazy that everyone pronounces kaolin wrong. I use it regularly it is a very common ingredient for ceramics. It’s pronounced Kay-o-Lin (but soft on the o) like rhymes with Van Halen

  • @rashelrobinson4948
    @rashelrobinson4948 2 роки тому +5

    Seriously love both of you and watch you everyday while getting ready for work! Thank You for helping me achieve my skincare goals and making all these men and woman feel more beautiful and comfortable in their skin! 🙏❤️

  • @becca_beckks
    @becca_beckks 2 роки тому +6

    I used the salicylic mask on my nose and chin like you stated. Def notice a difference!

  • @jessicahigdon3962
    @jessicahigdon3962 2 роки тому

    Thank you for all the great videos. I'm glad I found you guys.

  • @chandananaidu2768
    @chandananaidu2768 2 роки тому

    I'm so glad by watching all ur videos and by knowing about some of the important points about skin and skin products. Thank u dr.shah for ur valuable things🙌👍

  • @Sypriano_
    @Sypriano_ 2 роки тому +6

    I've been around since you guys were at 10k!!! So great to see your channel and quality of your videos grow and improve :) keep it up!!!

  • @lisanewman3543
    @lisanewman3543 2 роки тому +2

    I have been using the Salicylic Acid 2% Anhydrous Solution for a couple of weeks and really like it.

  • @helengasking2031
    @helengasking2031 2 роки тому

    Congratulations on passing a million subscribers!!

  • @nikki2370
    @nikki2370 Рік тому

    Seriously appreciate this video so much

  • @lisavo7061
    @lisavo7061 Рік тому

    You guys are awesome! Love your videos !!!! So informative and helpful. Thank you both 🙏🥰

  • @britainwh2700
    @britainwh2700 2 роки тому

    So happy to finally understand the difference!

  • @cocoazen
    @cocoazen 2 роки тому +6

    I'm with Dr. Shah, I use salicylic acid for several different conditions, not just traditional acne

  • @shannaturner2291
    @shannaturner2291 2 роки тому

    Thank you for the content and the opportunity to receive the giveaway! 😀

  • @bhaktikumbhar3516
    @bhaktikumbhar3516 2 роки тому +3

    I'm 22 years old I have dry acne prone skin I started my skincare routine 3 month ago and seen huge difference on now my skin now hydrated I'm soo happy that I see you guys thaank you for educating about my skin

  • @Cherie.H
    @Cherie.H 2 роки тому +70

    Hmm. Does Dr Shah's love affair with salicylic acid compare to Dr Maxfield's marriage to niacinamide?? 🤔

  • @aristotleclasses6629
    @aristotleclasses6629 2 роки тому +5

    U guys are the reason i have clear skin ever since my teenage i have been suffering from very bad acne and finally after so many years i really got my dream skin all thanks to you guys
    Lots and lots of luv from india💜

  • @rayswagolivas9072
    @rayswagolivas9072 2 роки тому

    Thanks for all the great tips and advice that I can trust!!!

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    @elizabethwynter5291 2 роки тому

    I love you guys so much I've been writing down these products to hopefully purchase them

  • @youhantatum9182
    @youhantatum9182 2 роки тому +1

    I love the ordinary product it works really good for my skin and my acne! The product are not irritating to the skin or burnt your eyes after applying. Love it and won’t use any skin product

  • @meredithmohler7938
    @meredithmohler7938 2 роки тому

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  • @meganscroggins3327
    @meganscroggins3327 2 роки тому

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  • @bonniekellyromeo9073
    @bonniekellyromeo9073 2 роки тому

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