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Shenmue 3's Kickstarter & Sony's Involvement - Truth & Lies - Adam Koralik
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- Опубліковано 19 чер 2015
- SHENMUE 3 KICKSTARTER: www.kickstarte...
Shenmue Dojo Citation: www.shenmuedojo...
Famitsu Interview: www.shenmuedojo...
Shenmue III Theme: • Shenmue 3 Kickstarter ...
Game Trailers Reaction: • Epic Reaction to Shenm...
Various UA-cam Reactions: • Video
Yu Suzuki Comments On Where Funding Comes From: www.neogaf.com/...
Highlights of Tweets from Yu and Sony on this: s12.postimg.org...
Good Journalism: www.escapistmag...
More good journalism: casuallyaddicte...
More good journalism: www.dualshocker...
Yoshida explains if they were funding development, it'd be first party: www.eurogamer.n...
Yoshida talks contributions: www.playstation...
Yu Suzuki's Open Letter regarding funding: www.shenmuedojo...
www.figureitout...
Shenmue III was announced as most of you I'm sure know, but with that came a lot of misinformation. I'd like to clear as much up as I can. The game is coming to PC and PS4.
+Sergio Apodaca I never said that. What are you talking about? Sega killed themselves, I've said it many many many times.
And Sony isn't giving us Shenmue 3. We're giving us Shenmue 3 dude, that's kind of the whole point.
AdamKoralik did they ever explain what the shenmue 1 & 2 cinema shorts are yet?
James Machuga Yeah, they're basically mini-movies that show the story events of Shenmue I and II.
Shenmue II on the XBox included this for Shenmue I.
***** Make it yourself then dude. The video is for people who watch this channel, not just Shenmue fans.
AdamKoralik
so basically a condensed version of the story that will be missing piece's of it man if ever there was thing needs to happen it's a real hd remake of 1 and 2 of shenmue
AdamKoralik believe it or not but there was a Shenmue successor franchise like Bloodstained, Yooka-Laylee, and MN.9. that franchise is the Yakuza franchise. the Yakuza franchise took many of the ideas and concepts of Shenmue and made a new franchise.
INSTRUCTIONS ON HOW TO EMULATE SHENMUE 1 AND 2. PLEASE THUMBS UP SO EVERYONE CAN SEE.
In order to play Shenmue 1 and 2 with emulation get nullDC and have the following settings:
Before anything else you need to format the VMU, follow this thread to do it- ngemu.com/threads/sticky-how-to-set-up-a-vmu-memory-card.137766/
The settings below are all found under the Options tab.
- nullDC settings
Dynarec: ON
CP pass: ON
Underlock FPU: OFF
- Graphic plugin: NullVPR or PowerVR
Full Screen: ON (or maximum supported resolution depending on plugin)
Asept ratio: Stretch
Paletted Textures: Versioned
Sort: Triangle
Modifier Volumes: Off
- Sound plugin: Null AICA
Buffer audio: 2048 (click on config and make sure it's set to 2048)
Sync Audio: ON
Mute cd: ON
Mute Sound: OFF
These settings get rid of the static sound and strange emulation errors with Ryo's character model. There will be no character shadows, but on a game as old as Shenmue this is hardly a sacrifice. I recommend playing the PAL version since Shenmue 2 never got an NTSC release on the dreamcast, so that's the only way you can transfer over your toy capsules and stuff, and unless you wanna drop money on Xbox Shenmue 2, it's the only option you got.
Even after this you'll still have problems loading the game up on the PAL version, in order to load your game use the following settings:
nullDC Settings:
Cable Type: VGA(0) (RGB)
System Region: EUR
Broadcast Format: PAL
You need a decent computer to run all this, so don't come replying to me with "It's too choppy on my Intel HD chipset waaah." I'll just ignore you.
EDIT: Almost forgot to mention. The old sega arcade games don't work because in the game they ran off an emulator of their own. Rest of the mini games are fine though.
MuseHijinks Thanks!
Thanks that really helps to fix the bugzes
EDIT: Spread this article, it clarifies Sony's position! www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/141291-Sony-will-be-involved-in-marketing-and-production-for-Shenmue-3
To be honest guys, I'm kinda pissed at how the KS campaign is being handled. I know Shenmue needed it and that's fine, but...
1) The pitch video looks amateurish and I doubt any non-long-time-fan would find it appealing. It needs a huge "PRE ALPHA" tag slapped on it.
2) The campaign page is messy: stretch goals are at the bottom, reward descriptions are confusingt (I'm looking at you, Backer Exclusive Scrolls)
3) The campaign PR is virtually non-exixstent
4) The campaign updates are too short and uninspired
5) I'm reading a lot of comments of people who are saying they're not willing to pledge because the campaign is not transparent: where will the funds EXACTLY go? How much money has already been secured via external funding? In what way is Sony backing the project? Only PR? We have no clear answers.
6) Yu Suzuki needs $10mm to make the full Shenmue 3 experience he envisioned, as he wrote on the AMA Reddit. Well, WRITE THAT ON THE KS PAGE!
This campaign could raise much more with a little more effort.
It looks like nobody in decision-making position reads the KS comment section (at least that's what backers are telling me in the KS comment section). I tweeted my concerns to Yu Suzuki, Ys Net, Sony, Shenmue 500k, Shenmue Dojo and Team Yu. Please favorite/retweet to spread the word: bit.ly/1IqP0P6
Vito Lanci bro wtf did you watch the video? Sony is handling marketing they are not funding development. You should probably remove that from the list if you want people to listen you especially in the very comments of the video debunking the Sony funding shenmue lie.
Pass_the_M Edited. I copied/pasted my comment from a facebook post made before watching this video and I forgot that was in there. Sorry! :P
Anyway, it would be nice if the KS page reported "Sony is not funding the game in any way at all", just to clear this misunderstainding once and for all.
Pass_the_M True, but he's saying the KS page itself needs to be more informative to help stem the spread of misinformation.
Vito Lanci You are absolutely correct and this is the very reason why I did not contribute. Lack of clarity is very close to dishonesty.
I find it great how Pat The NES Punk made a pod cast with Ian about the Shenmue III kickstarter. I really hope more big youtube channels do that as well.
Chris Pacheco And then there is Adam's buddy ReviewTechUSA who is eating up and shitting out the click-bait controversy just to make him and MundaneMatt some quick UA-cam ad $$.
Dr. Steve Brule ReviewTechUSA was cool before now I find him stupid and his videos are click-bait and very irrelevant. Something happened to him, he doesn't seem logical anymore.
***** Yeah I'm glad someone agrees with me I thought I was the only one, because rich now rages at everything and says stupid things about in the future that and that is doomed it is all just face-palm worthy, yeah stonefox media is the same now all he makes is bad jokes at Nintendo which are very unfunny.
***** your just a blind fanboy who can't accept the truth
***** When he did that "BSing about games with Adam Koralik" video, I could even bother watching the whole thing. All he did was reiterate everything that Adam has ever said in any of his videos.
I was subbed up until yesterday with him. It got boring after people stopped doing the whole $200 meme.
reviewtech is moaning that they used kickstarter, hes so clueless sometimes
WillowAlchemist When is that moron not clueless? If the video wont make him money, then he wont even bother with it. There is a reason why Shuhei Yoshida called him stupid.
Ohai second Alienware Alpha review.
WillowAlchemist Sometimes?
WillowAlchemist Stop watching his videos, he's an imbecile.
WillowAlchemist your just jealous cause his paycheck is bigger than your McDonald's paycheck. FYI you watch his videos means you are giving him views your clueless also.
Slippy Sony doesn't own Shenmue. Microsoft doesn't own Crash Bandicoot.
Do you not get that Sony more or less did Yu Suzuki a solid but simply advertising the game for him?
It's his game, his project, to be done his way.
Thanks, Adam.
More people need to understand the correct circumstances behind Sony's support here because it feels bugging to myself as well.
Just... did Shenmue and ShenmueII really became that expensive "overnight" for the US region?
I can tell, over here in Europe, prices are quite stable, the games still cost as much as when I bought them.
***** yup the price for the games on ebay doubled overnight
***** sony is beggingfor money
Vampirerockstar I believe it to be similar to what Adam said, actually.
Sony won't do a thing to interrupt development but they support ShemueIII in certain ways, which unaware players can probably see the best in its exclusivity for the PS4 (that is, if you leave out PC)
Maybe there will be a port to another platform someday but so far, Sony invested in this game most likely to get another exclusive.
***** totally agree. Sony has a lot to gain in this. If they have console exclusivity for both Shemue 3 and FF7 (even if it would be just for 1 year), they know that's a ton of consoles already sold. Simple and effective. They sell PS4 and we get Shenmue? Everybody wins. :D
Christian Malo shenume 3 and ff7 are coming to PC
Shenmue let me raise a pet kitty. 10/10 best game ever!
Nintendogs + cats lets you do that too
Darkstarlightechoes But can Nintendogs let you play Space Harrier?
@@TrippinDrago roaaaaaasted him lolll
Wouldn't it be awesome on the last day of the kick starter, someone throws down $47 Mil
LAGGY MOO
No he should do it NOW! lol
LAGGY MOO No, would be sad that someone would blind put 50k on a game to be made that the person wont even know how the game will be in the end.
Yu Suzuki gave an estimate of $10 mil for Shenmue 3 to be the open-world experience he wants it to be. (Via Reddit AMA)
LAGGY MOO Only Bill Gates could do that, I heard he is a fan of the game but I could never heard it directly from him. I don't think anyway he will contribute to Xbox rival success.
Edulin do
If Bill Gates was a Real Fan of Shenmue... Shenmue would have been Complete by now... lol
I think he prefer Billder Gates!
Awesome video Adam. :)
***** Thanks dude, and thanks for helping Johnny spread the truth about all this!
Yu Suzuki said to get the full Shenmue 3 experience, we'll have to get the kickstarter to $10 million. I'm not sure we'll reach that goal. :(
englishhedgehog7 It's not impossible, but we need to work together.
I'm not really experienced in how kickstarters go, so how big do you think the surge will be in the last couple of days of the kickstarter?
Yeah, Adam, you're totally right about the prices of the old games skyrocketing. Shenmue 1 is going for around $80 or so on Ebay, and even the Xbox version of Shenmue II is around $60, not to mention the ridiculous price of the Dreamcast version ranging anywhere from $120-$250. Because of your videos, I decided to back the project even though I've never actually played a Shenmue game before, but now just trying to get the old games is going to be hard. Since I don't actually own a Dreamcast, I thought I'd just grab the Xbox version of Shenmue II on the cheap, but that's not even possible anymore. Still, your devotion to this game franchise is inspiring, and I admire all that you've done to promote them,
Nice vid +Adamkoralik. Keep it up! We all cant wait for SHENMUE 3. Fun fact: Lan-di Sama and I have shared the same Chi You Men tattoo since I was 18. It was my first!
YoungKaZe518 Thanks for watching!
Great video Adam. I’m one of those guys that never got into the series quite like the die-hard fans did back in 2000. That said, I went back last year and finally got into it in a much bigger way, thanks in a large part because of your videos. I’ve Kickstarted $500, and stand by it.
Sony has a vested interest in this. People who think they shouldn’t back the Kickstarter because Sony will just fund the game and that’s that are missing the point. I’m sure Sony will assist as much as they possibly can, for logical reasons, but ultimately every last cent that goes into the Kickstarter will go back into the development of the game. If Sony can generate a few million dollars on top of that great, if it’s all for marketing then so be it. Like you said, I wouldn’t be surprised if Sazuki-san gets his hands on some dev kits, maybe some programmers, etc. The better the game turns out, the better it is for everyone.
The biggest confusion with all of this stems from the media outlets, and the fact the Kickstarter launched at Sony’s press conference so automatically a lot of people are saying ‘oh ok, Sony’s clearly funding the game’. Next up is the Kickstarter FAQ page which states:
‘No, we cannot make an open world game for $2 million. Shenmue will be produced using both the funds raised from the Kickstarter and through other funding sources already secured by Ys Net Inc. We are very sorry, but due to contractual obligations, details of outside investments will not be disclosed.’
‘Other funding sources’ is also what some people keep sticking too.
As for SEGA, I’m really proud they allowed Shenmue 3 to be made, but how awesome would it be to get an HD remake of the first two parts with SEGA’s blessing. Hopefully this Kickstarter opens their eyes to an HD remake. I know many people are going to want to play the first two games once this one is nearing release, and it kind of sucks that won’t be an option, and ultimately it may hurt sales because of it.
Ok thanks for reading the novel haha.
Project COE Thanks for doing that!
I do agree, the Kickstarter needs more transparency about stuff like that.
No need to thank me. Only together can we make this happen!
I bought a PS4 right after the Shenmue Video ended... Literally....lol
This game needs to have a physical release. I understand it means more money but making it digital only is so gross.
It's nice that you cleared this issue up. Most people think Sony is funding it.
This is a game I DESPERATELY want to play. I ordered the game last year on Amazon and the game came is with the discs in fantastic condition. After playing the first disc for about an hour or so, it started to freeze. Over and over again I tried to play it but to my loss, it never worked. I tried all the methods of turning the system upside down, side ways, everything. No luck. I've looked into this issue online and it seems to have been a major problem amongst people and apparently there has been numerous copies with malfunctioning discs as if it was a manufacturers error. I'd attempt to buy the game again, but I'm sure I'd continually run into this issue and these games aren't the cheapest to keep trying. I also tried downloading the ISO files and the programs needed but in the process, my computer had gotten viruses. There just seems to be no hope for me to playing this game that I have always wanted to immerse myself in. That all said, is there any information you could give me on restoring my hope in being able to play this monumental game? Either that or do you miraculously have a copy you can sell to me? lol I'm just looking for any possible alleyways to successfully playing this game and any help would be greatly appreciated.
RustyFiReWorKs People below, as per request, have explained how to emulate. Take a look if you're interested.
I hope an extended goal is a Xbox and wii u version.
Me too
Yeah it says the Xbox and wii u version have not been ruled out they said it was for the fans so I'm really hoping they consider.
groove4 life ok I hope it goes on xbox one and wiiu
groove4 life Never maybe wiiu but NEVER xbox SEGA and yu suzuki hate microsoft and for good reason adam actually did a video about this ...........
If sega hates Microsoft then why do they have a crap ton of sonic games on 360 and jet set radio hd.
It was point blank not smart to not make it multi-console (yes, I know it's on PC). He basically cut off Xbox owners who would've gladly contributed and probably would easily be halfway to his $10 million goal. There's no reason to not have an Xbox version and it's too bad.
Aaron Starks I'm going to have to call bullshit on that.
Giving Sony nearly exclusive access to it means they're dumping in millions of dollars in advertising.
A simple Xbox One option would not match that kind of power.
Don't get me wrong, I want it on every platform under the sun, but let's be economically pragmatic here.
AdamKoralik You're acting like A: Sony is the only one that can pay for advertising and B: Others couldn't do it better.
Just putting "Sony" and "economic power" in the same sentence is an oxymoron in and of itself.
It was shortsighted to allow Sony to use them for the PR.
I said when this happened that Sony doesn't care if the Last Guardian or Shenmue III ever sees the light of day. They simply wanted an emotional response at E3 and be seen as the "good guys" that "saved" two long-awaited games. It worked.
Hell, even YOU said Sony admitted this in your video!
On Suzuki's part, it was short-sighted. Imagine how many more contributions they'd have already if Playstation, Xbox and PC gamers ALL were looking forward to playing it.
So I don't by an atom of this "Sony The Savior" bullshit. Sony used Suzuki and he was short-sighted. Period.
Aaron Starks That's just silly.
If that was true we'd have seen this game YEARS ago.
You needed someone beyond Sega to step up and have a reason to invest.
Sony is giving him marketing, while letting him control funding for development. Yu Suzuki is a bit of a control freak, and no company would allow him that kind of freedom with the stigma Shenmue has on it.
Again, as much as I agree it'd be nice if it was everywhere, that won't happen and frankly that makes sense.
You have to weigh Sony's free marketing/publishing funds VS potential Kickstarter funds from XBox users.
While I can't prove it, I find it HIGHLY unlikely XBox users would outweigh Sony's marketing push.
Plus, then, you have to find a new source of funds for marketing. It's just math dude.
AdamKoralik He makes a good point. Look at Sony's The Interview movie. They told everyone they were going to pull the movie It got people wondering what was so controversial about it. And when it was released it made a lot of money. The movie isn't that good. I'm a Seth Rogan fan and that movie had it's moments but over all it was dog shit. Noway they would have made that much because of word of mouth. It's the kind of shit Sony pulls to make money. They like to dangle the carrot in front of you, then take it away, and then bring it back to make you more excited for it. Cause of the sense of happiness after the disappointment is so much better.
Unfortunately people still think Sony is funding Shenmue, people also seem to forget this is going to be on PC too so its not exclusive. There is no way this is going to reach 10 million because of controversy. So really Sony has been a double edged sword for Shenmue. Sony really screwed up by saying they are supporting the game but not being specific about how they are supporting the game up front. At least the people who funded the game can actually receive a copy of the game unlike most Kickstarters.
It's true Sony did fund it
Thanks for the video, Adam. Now is a critical time, and we need all the exposure we can get. If you would do a vid on the July third tweetathon, that'd be much appreciated. It could be the last, but it's certainly the most important one. We really need to whip people into a Shenmue 3 donating frenzy. Please help if you can, brotherman. I know i've been hounding you about it, but this tweetathon is more important than it's ever been. We'll probably have a contest going, i'll let you know what's going on when everything's finalized.
Shenmue Stare Don't worry, I'm planning on it. I've been trying to recruit other UA-camrs to it too.
I made the google + page a couple years back as a possible backup if facebook ever went tits up or as an alternative. As you have noticed it's been mostly forgotten about. The main Shenmue social media hub is facebook.com/groups/Shenmue500K/ We have been working closely with www.TeamYu.net on the #SaveShenmue tweetathon the last few years. We used to use Thunderclap for mass tweets, but have since moved on to an auto tweet on the Teamyu site. And yes, all the Shenmue groups and sites have been going nuts since the announcement, haha.
I think I'm gonna pledge 29 bucks for a digital copy. Luckily, I decided to get a PS4 anyway after Nintendo's abhorrent E3 showing.
zenanarchist You're a hero to me.
AdamKoralik Well, I can't deny it, The Last Guardian and Shenmue III got me kinda hyped!
The only thing that's a little bit of a bummer is that I'd like to play Shenmue 1&2 first.
If SEGA doesn't jump at the opportunity and release re-mastered versions they oughta be slapped.
zenanarchist They probably will, but in the mean time, consider emulation. People have explained it below. :D
Shenmue 3 Kickstarter and Sony Funding Involvement. If you have not Backed the Shenmue 3 Kickstarter, please watch this video and consider backing the new release of some of the greatest games of all time.
Hey Adam, just a thought, maybe they're planning to release a physical copy of it and the digital version is just the Kickstarter reward. Their FAQ only makes reference to the digital copy as a Kickstarter reward. IDK if there's other information out there.
Also, I'm curious, for the Kickstarter reward, did you go with the digital PS4 copy or the physical PC copy? Just curious as to what you consider the lesser of two evils.
Art Vandelay I agree that's quite possible. It'd suck to double dip on that...but I'd do it.
Depends, I don't think I'll need to make that decision for a long time.
Hey Adam! Some of our viewers directed us here from our latest video on the subject. This was VERY informative.
I still believe it's a pretty big deal for Sony to take on the promotional responsibilities. That's still a substantial risk for them. It's just a little strange to me that they would take on only part of the risk. Sony believes in the project, but not enough to fund it outright. They still need proof that there's a market for this game.
Other companies who want to see the potential in a game would have jumped in midway through the Kickstarter like what Deep Silver did with Mighty No 9. Not that that's particularly right either.
I just don't want this to be the new trend for companies. It's like 2015s version of the pre-order. It's just WEIRD that a company like Sony would be like "hey you want this? well go get it yourselves."
-Bob
The Wulff Den Thanks.
I wouldn't worry about that, Kickstarter is really only for independent projects that would never happen any other way.
Good job dispelling the myths of Shenmue's original budget. People are so damn cynical; they think it makes them look smart. When you think of all the years of R&D and subsequent marketing that went into those games, it's really not all that much. Game budgets are always skewed for boasting and marketing purposes. With borrowed assets, a story and characters already conceived a 15 years ago, music, etc., Ysnet is going to blow everyone away on a 10mil budget.
Also, consider the challenges Yu faced 15 years ago creating the original game from the ground up. They were figuring out and attempting a lot of things for the first time. Now they have a pre-made engine (Unreal) that will make it much easier for them to implement the gameplay elements they want.
Mtjoyc3 Thanks.
Exactly.
Excellent video buddy, excellent. You have opened my eyes to many things with this Kickstarter. Much appreciated.
SegaCDUniverse Sure thing dude.
Just beat this game a few minutes ago. The game is absolutely beautiful and the musicians involved created a great and enticing soundtrack. This was a very emotionally driven game and the ending really captures your curiosity for the future of Ryo. The only downsides to this game imo are the incessant questioning you must do and the agonizing work days. Aside from that the game was amazing. I ended up getting Shenmue 2 in the mail not too long ago and I cannot wait to see what it has in store.
Do you know if people are getting those high prices for shenmue on ebay? Cause just a month ago I sold my Xbox and I had shenmue 2 and probably got a few bucks for it.
open world game? with an in depth story? so is it gameplay focused like mario, or is it story focused like final fantasy? or a mix or both maybe? either way, i do wanna try it. how long does a single playthrough of both shenmue 1 and 2 take all together with having the full experience. not just speeding through it?
I purchased Shenmue and Shenmue 2 for the Dreamcast on their release dates. I would like to purchase Shenmue 3 on the Dreamcast as well.
I would like you to make a video demanding a new Kickstarter stretch goal for a Dreamcast port.
Grandadgamer The Dreamcast market isn't really that big. This whole project is already a huge financial risk, and porting the game to the Dreamcast would only cost them money they can't afford to lose with little returns.
That is possible. Lol!
so in the late 90s the budget was 47 million but it would take 135 million in 2015 to have the same buying power 47 million did back then based on a inflation calculator I used... so even if you divide that number by 4 because it was for four games it would still take over 30 million of today's money to match what they put into one of the original games budget wise. Although I wonder if its easier to develop games today vs the late 90s?? I mean PC hardware in the late 90s was crazy expensive so maybe advancements in software/hardware technology over the last 14 years will make the games develop require less than it did to develop 1 and 2. I feel like they will need at least 10 million from the kickstarter, I might double my pledge towards the end if they don't have 10 million. (hopefully a surge of others do the same)
Derek Fertig I'd say that's pretty accurate. Combined with what Yu has told us.
Woot thats me at 04:30! Sad you couldnt pick up the phone but I totally understand! I couldnt even talk since I was in tears haha.
Great video by the way. This video really details everything that everyone needs to know about what is going on with Shenmue 3.
James Reiner Sorry brah, I was really overwhelmed. With in the first minute of the announcement, I already had a hundred plus notications.
its all good bruhh. haha yeah same here. my phone overheated from facebook messenger going insane. Had to just disconnect from facebook for a while.
Hey Adam, I own shenmue and the disc is in good condition but my dreamcast isn't reading it for whatever reason. It does this on some other games to like soul reaver and crazy taxi 2 (not the original though). All these games are in good condition with no scratches because I'm extremely picky about the quality of my games. I'm going to try the thing where you turn the screw on the laser assembly and some plastic cleaner for the lense. Is there anything else you would recommend me to do?
robejamusic Nope, you hit the nail on the head there. Try those methods. But be careful about that. I did a video on it if you need help.
Me and my sister would spend hours and hours on this, just enjoying the shit out of it.. even the mundane waiting around and killing time.. we grew into adults and would always talk about it, wishing and praying for part 3.. few years ago my sister sadly died, when shenmue 3 was announced I nearky burst into tears with joy and sadness at the same time.. I will play through this and finish the story for both of us
I'm new to Shenmue. I'd heard of it before but I haven't ever played either of them.
My takeaway from this video is the point at 19:02.
Like, I didn't even know this. That is incredibly sad. What kind of poison has swept the global games industry to the point that time-honoured characters and franchises loved the world over, even those far more famous than Shenmue, are no longer financially viable, or at best are just special Kickstarter projects for devoted fans? Why can't we see proper games like this on the shelves of stores again? Why does it have to be so ultra-safe? Just... that is so depressing to me.
Hey Adam, I just received a copy of Shenmue 2 for the dreamcast (you persuaded me to not get the Xbox version). PAL version. Is it supposed to be in 2 seperate cases?
Yes, but it's also supposed to have a paper outer case that holds them together.
+AdamKoralik awww. Mine doesn't have that. Any ideas where I could find one? Ebay?
You could try, but I imagine it'd be rather difficult to get on its own.
Shenmue III also won't cost as much because...
- They don't have to develop technology that doesn't exist.
- They presumably won't be hiring musicians to play the dev team music while they work.
- They don't need to create and find a way to scan head sculptures of every character in the games.
- They (hopefully) won't be daft enough to fly the English language voice cast over to their Japanese recording studio just to read their lines.
- Marketing is covered, so won't eat into the budget.
- Assets are being recycled.
- The research still exists.
- Suzuki has practically had this in part-time pre-production for over a decade.
- They don't need to port the game from one engine to another.
- Product placement doesn't seem to be in this game, meaning they don't need to constantly change aspects of the game based on their instructions.
- The team is obviously a lot smaller, so there won't be people coming in and completely redoing previous work wasting a ridiculous amount of time and money.
- Portions of the budget won't be wasted on stupidly detailed things like each character havin their own unique set of footsteps sounds.
Mittens2317 Excellent points.
I have the first game, but I'm sort of pissed at myself for procrastinating in getting the PAL release of Shenmue 2. Now that prices are going up (haven't checked, just taking your word Adam) I don't know when would be a good time to get it.
Do you think that if Sega were to release an HD collection would they put the profits towards the development of Shenmue 3 or at least some percentage? Or they just keep everything?
TheSubZero187 My guess is they'd keep that.
Please indulge me. What is the difference between ARPG and VFRPG. What would another game Ryu Ga Gotoku/Yakuza be categarized as?
When the announcement happened the 1st thing that came to my mind was "omg Adam is gonna be so happy" lol i even told my friends about this youtube channel and no one knew about shenmue. Im a xbox owner but i wish shenmue 3 the best. Hopefully one day it comes to xbone
MUSIKO Thanks for watching!
Good discussion, Adam, with what will no doubt be an on-going, and rolling discussion over the coming months. But the fundamentals, I think we can all agree to be happy about, that Shenmue 3 'is' being made. And the quality of the development team is right up there. Thanks are due to Ryan Payton, too, for having successfully used the power of persuasion on Suzuki san. And regarding Sega's (not insignificant) contribution also, in context, an emotive and somewhat moving gesture from Sega.
Sturmwind Thanks for watching!
The following is from Yu Suzuki himself...
"Sony and Shibuya Productions have been wonderful partners because they believe in Shenmue and want to see the best for the fans and the game. Their investment in (and support of) Shenmue have helped to realize a sequel that will stand proud with its predecessors. While it is not business practice to discuss the specific details of such arrangements, I can say that with their assistance on the production and marketing end, and in Sony’s case with some publishing support as well, Ys Net is able to use more of the money we collect through Kickstarter purely for Shenmue 3’s development. It is also important to note that your funds are going strictly to Ys Net for development of Shenmue 3 - Sony and Shibuya Productions are not seeing a cent of your Kickstarter dollars."
So there you have it. There is more that was said, but this answers all the questions and clears up all the bullshit. Not a scam, Sony isn't getting money from the kickstarter that is being contributed to.
mauricetheme Dont think people stated that. They were saying Sony was helping with the funding... Which proves to be the case. I dont think its a big deal but it would have helped to make it clear. So Sony is not only assisting with marketing, but with publishing and production as well. The kickstarter stretch goasl are for extras/director cut additions sort of speak
There were many people saying that the kickstarter was a scam, that Sony was fully funding the game and that they money from kickstarter was going to Sony themselves. People questioned why Sony wasn't funding the full game because they could afford to, not knowing all the facts about Shenmue in the past.
Why some of the so-called "Shenmue Fans" are forcing to get physical CD for PS4? and I noticed one of those people asking 75 dollar in pledging for physical CD + T-Shirt, really?? it is simply "preordering". Do they realize the reason of kickstarter crowdfunding is to raise "funds", not to preorder. I am getting tired of those who cannot understand this. I think Shenmue does not deserved to be claimed by those people.
Dany Hermawan I'm a huge proponent of physical media. But even so, I backed it. Need to support this. The more successful it is, the more likely a physical release is.
They should know portions of the total funds raised goes to kickstarter, and other to shipping the rewards, as well as production costs of those rewards, take a look at exploding Kittens, they raised 8 millions, but shipping and production costs + royalty consumed most of the funds.. if Yu needs 10 million for the game alone, at least 12 million has to be reached.
Dany Hermawan Sadly, that's probably exactly accurate.
AdamKoralik yeah, its not as simple as we think it is.. Yu are really taking big risk here.. I hope there will be no Shenmue curse anymore..
oh and I forgot mentioning the cost of shipping failure (when the rewards are not delivered, stolen, or defect), so they have to re-shipping another rewards.. everything i said based on exploding kittens's experiences. They have 200k+ backers.
Man, Shenmue is back! Come to think of it, I wonder if we'll see Skies of Arcadia Legends on PC and current-gen consoles someday?
Hey Adam, Check out how much shenmue is selling for on ebay now, $70-100! I put up my extra copy last night and the bidding is up to $41 already and there is still 2 days left on the auction.
Nutz4Gunz45 Madness isn't it?
AdamKoralik sold for $82
i never even played shenmue but fell in love with it after watching playthroughs on youtube. i hope the prices of the copies of 1 and 2 will drop after the surge
I don't know you and I just subscribed.. Because you know what you're talking about and not just miss inform us just for views or whatever :D good for you man! We need more people who do their research. :)
White Orkid Thanks dude!
I'm sure you've probably been asked this numerous times, but how many times have you completed both Shenmue games and when was your most recent complete playthrough of them?
Ross Pitcairn Dozens of times. Playing through Shenmue 1 again right now, just because....emotions...
Very interesting Adam makes me wonder how many takes it takes to shoot a movie, how many times do you slip up?
Christopher Flynn I usually just do it all in one run.
I'm planning on going on an emulated journey through Shenmue 1 and 2. Unfortunately, I can't pledge anything to the Kickstarter. :(
Hi adam, do you believe we'll reach 10 million potentially on the kickstarter? I intend to contribute when i'm paid at work. I just ask because i'm slightly worried that the money going in seems to have gone relatively stagnant compared to the first few days. Is the trend with these kickstarter games is more money tends to pour in as the deadline looms?
solidusnakeify I'm hopeful, but it's anyone's guess.
Hey Adam - I just wanted to thank you for taking the time to make this video. You couldn't be more on point with all of your analysis and explanation of the Shenmue 3 project. It's a shame "professional" journalists can't hold up to the same standard.
Everyone please spread the kickstarter word! We've waited 14+ years for this, let's make it the absolute best Shenmue game we can!!! And for those of you who have never played Shenmue 1 or 2 do yourselves a favor and play them!
Josh Ciampini Thanks dude! Funny thing is, I'm not a journalist. I would never claim to be. Just some nerd on UA-cam.
Haha yeah I know man, maybe you should be one though! It's actually funny cause just a couple months ago I sent you a note after your video about how Shenmue would probably never go to kickstarter because $2M isn't enough and here we are now!! Funny how things work out.
Josh Ciampini Agreed. Good news though is several sites posted new articles about how Sony ISN'T funding it. I linked them in the description.
I know I'm a tad responsible, only because one of them credited me as a such. Which is...weird...
Man, Sega may be crazy, but they're so cool for allowing them to use the license. Hats off to them.
Hey, Adam! I have been hesitant on backing this project for a somewhat stupid reason... I don't know if I wanna get it on PS4 (and buy a PS4) or get the PC version, because eventually I'm going to build my own PC and that can be cheaper than getting a PS4. But then again maybe (just maybe) the PS4 will have dropped in price by the time this game comes out, so case in point...
Do you choose which version you want when you pledge, or is it a decision that you make once the reward is available whenever the game comes out?
Starscream You can pledge now and select your version of choice later.
AdamKoralik Thanks. Unfortunately, while checking for payment options, I saw they only accepted credit cards. Had they had Paypal I would've been able to back the game, but I don't have a credit card. :/
Starscream Yeah, we're painfully aware of that. We told them, they know. They might change it. If they do, I'm sure I'll mention it in a video. So, keep an eye out. :D
Hey Adam what do you say about the latest rumours that NX is really a home console? Seems like you were right from the beginning :) Reggie's words:
" We’ve also said publicly that we are already hard at work on our next home console and that’s another element we’ll be talking about much later."
German source: www.ingame.de/artikel/nintendo-nx-reggie-fils-aime-deutet-neue-heimkonsole-an/
BWL Asaad Can't say I'm surprised.
Hi Mr.Koralik I wanted to ask you something, hope you can reply to my message.
Do you think that the first two games should be released in an HD collection? This in order to appeal to a wider range of users so when the third games comes out sales will boost.
I do believe this has to be done, it's a must, a lot of gamers included myself never had the chance to play this jewel back in the day, even more since they all are connected playing the first two is a requirement. Have you heard anything about it ? Thanks in advance
Mylar1980 I talked about it in the video dude.
AdamKoralik Yeah I know I just wanted to talk and go deep into the subject; in my humble opinion it would be so good for the third game, sorry didn't mean to bug you
Mylar1980 Sorry if I came off like a dick. Didn't mean to.
I'm a tad frazzled lately to be honest. I've been bogged down by hordes of messages, like I said in the video.
I'm sorry.
But yeah, I think they'll do some kind of HD rerelease, I hope they do. Though my guess is they won't until we're getting closer to the third's release.
I find it hard to believe no one has considered that over there.
Super happy for you man and I will be contributing a significant amount come payday. My recommended emulator to play Dreamcast games is Null DC. Just download the bios and isos and you're good to go. Plus it makes the games look like remasters with the graphical enhancements.
Ralph Rodriguez Thank you very much!
does shenmue 2 japanese import have optional english subtitles. Id rather buy this than a U.K import as they are priced much better. And its got to be on dreamcast because I dont have an xbox.
epb111 Alas, no. Only the UK version.
One thing that's amazing to me about the Kickstarter is that the average contribution is about $80, so $20 more than a AAA retail release.
On the subject of emulation, there are a couple options. NullDC is probably the best known and most functional Dreamcast emulator. I've played both games with it. It has plugins for the VMU as well as the ability to use an Xbox 360 controller. There are some sound and video glitches (some of which I'm sure are related to my laptop's AMD GPU), but the games are absolutely playable. The ROM I have for Shenmue II is one where the creator spliced in the audio from the Xbox version of the game, so it runs with English dialogue. Overall, it takes a bit of time and effort to get everything configured within the emulator, but I'd say it's worth it.
There's even a Dreamcast emulator on Android called Reicast. If you have one of those NVIDIA Shield portable consoles, it works beautifully. Again, the setup is a bit confusing, but being able to play Shenmue in the palms of your hands is really something.
saturnotaku Thanks for taking the time to explain that for people!
Hi Adam!
Congratulations to all of us!
Your videos over the last years made me pick up on the Dreamcast again and I've been playing through Shenmue I for the same reason, which as you said, is awesome!
To celebrate this event, I've also got my hands on Shenmue II for the Dreamcast and I'll have to play through that as soon as I've finished Shenume I.
I guess I'll be picking up a PS 4 eventually too then. :-D
Thanks for being a great inspiration and please don't stop doing UA-cam videos!
I shared this video to as many fans that I could to get the point across, great video clears up a lot of confusion!
bombbuzz Thanks for watching!
I ordered my copy of Shenmue 2 for the Dreamcast right before the prices went insane. I'm on final disc 3 on Shenmue 1 right now. Have to finish that up soon so i can get right in to Shenmue 2 when it comes. So excited about this.
I managed to get Shenmue 2 for XBox through Amazon for around $15 shortly after the announcement was made. That's in the case with both discs included. The case is a bit beat up, the insert is a little torn and I had to use Goo Gone to remove some stickers-but it was a pretty good deal overall. I haven't played it yet but from my research it IS compatible with 360 and I've even heard it resolves a few performance issues it had on the original XBox (I think I heard something about it sometimes locking up or just taking a long time to load during what would've been a disc transition on Dreamcast).
I really wish I would've been able to get the first game on Dreamcast-I'd considered it even though I don't own one at the moment-but I was short on cash as it is and I'm certain the prices have already inflated further since then. I've got the movie disc though and I already beat the game back in the day (although I'm fairly certain I used some cheat codes at the time). I never managed to get all the way through the second one before I traded it in so now I've got a second chance to do so.
At any rate, the stretch goal I'm most fearing right now is the "Infiltration Mission", that was my LEAST FAVORITE part of the first game-I absolutely HATE shoehorned-in stealth missions that send you back to the beginning of the level whenever you fail, perhaps a bit more so with Shenmue because if I recall correctly you had to wait until the next night to make another attempt (or maybe that's if you fail x-number of times, my memory's a little hazy from time and repressed traumas).
I like stealth when it's done as an OPTION, or at least you have multiple ways to approach the situation. Deus Ex and Skyrim are shining examples of how I like Stealth to be done. That said, maybe they'll do it right, maybe the mission will be optional somehow. I can only say that if it can't exceed that goal by at least a couple steps I will be more than annoyed. lol
AdamKoralik How do you feel about GameStop selling retro consoles?
Adam, great work as always. I've always thought you looked like a Shenmue NPC.
Loaded up Shenmue 2 the other day and just sat at the title screen. I was thinking how bad the wait was between 1 and 2, then finally getting to that shenmue 2 title screen and jumping right back in, and I played both these close to their N.American releases. To think what it will be like to see the shenmue 3 title screen and play that thing. Holy shit.
To most of us here I'd say this is way bigger than Half Life 3. Way, way bigger. And if we get Shenmue 3 that DEFINITELY means Half Life 3 will come out someday.
FoundationsofPause People always think I look like Delin from Shenmue II. Likely the ogre beard we're both rocking.
Half-Life 3 will happen, just a matter of when.
I just hope they keep in collectibles, but i'm not sure who has the rights etc so I don't know if we will see SEGA figures etc, that sort of detail really makes the game for me like Yakuza does.
SEGA would be mad not to do some sort of HD Remaster Collection at this point. With all the buzz the 3rd game is making, they cannot not get together with Suzuki to agree to a Collection with 1 and 2 to give people the chance to see what all the fuss is about as well as cash in on the buzz too.
laprasking I would be all over that, but what needs to happen is that you carry on your experience from game to game like it was suppose to be.
That would probably be a bit hard with the 3rd game, so maybe they could do some sort of quiz for previous gamers asking them choices they made in the first 2 games or something...
laprasking If this kickstarter does anything, it shows how wrong SEGA was.
Guernicaman it would be pointless because sega dropped out of the console race in '01 and the probability of them getting back in it and being successful is slim to none, but they can come back however but the money they need to round up to be able to stay in it is a lot after leaving for 13 to 14 yeara
+laprasking If Sega isn't in the financial position to do it, they should just give Suzuki the rights to the game entirely and have him start another Kickstarter to fund the HD remastering.
I hope people are going to fund more and more again, 3,5m isn't enough to live up to what people expect from such a great series of game... Let's do it to 5.000.000$ !!
i wonder how Ys Net's new deal with Deep Silver will affect the situation and how it will relate to the fears some people had over Sony's financial involvement.
We're told it will mean more money for development of the game, does that mean some creative control might be relinquished? doubtful, but i wonder what roll Deep Silver will fulfil given that Sony had already committed to helping with publishing? i haven't looked into it in detail yet, so maybe the info is out there.. ok i'll stop rambling now.
still love this vid.
I'm just hoping it means there's more money for them to play with. It does concern me that perhaps Sony is stepping away for one reason or another.
I guessed that'd be sony covering the ads etc. in your last video. Feel pretty clever now!
Good video, son. I can hear your passion for shenmue in every word.
Glorious Smite Thanks for watching!
I just finished shenmue 1 and it was amazing. I'm working on shenmue 2. Adam which of the two iz your favorte ?astly I want to show a friend of mine the series what game should he play first 1 or 2 thanks
X-Play Archive I prefer Shenmue 2, but I would never suggest someone start with it. Playing Shenmue 1 first is essential.
AdamKoralik ok thank you, oh did you know that someone made a version on the dreamcast with English audio? i'm not talking about the Xbox version. Someone at shenmue dojo compressed the audio from the Xbox version and put it in the dreamcast version.
If you're going the emulation route, I recommend playing the stock ISOs for shenmue 1 and the 99 minute/870mb CD rips of shenmue two with the japanese audio replaced with the english audio from the XBOX version, both work well with the usual dreamcast emulators and also on original hardware, however I'd recomend against playing the shenmue2 99 minute CD version from a burned disc as it's awful for your GDROM drive, instead look into getting a GDEMU or DC serial port SD card adaptor and playing it off there through dreamshell as that's much better for the hardware longevity.
Damn after watching your passion and love for Shenmue not only have I recently bought Shenmue (I don't have a dreamcast but planning on getting one) and bought Shenmue 2 for Xbox after Christmas I'm going to back the slackerbacker campaign for a physical edition of Shenmue 3.
I just love the passion that people have for this series
Okay pretty much just watching your Shenmue videos and short gameplays are starting to get me hyped lol I'm definitely going to try and find a Dreamcast for Pal and get the games
You've probably answered this before but.. what is your favorite LP of shenmue 1 and 2?
Alex Kolakowski I don't have one.
This is the most calm I've ever seen you. I like it, it's relaxing. :)
zachmanrulez Glad you enjoy it.
Hi Adam, I have a question for you, was shenmue the movie released on a commercially sold DVD? i have a two disc copy of the movie. It is not the xbox version. The disc has completely different art and everything.Thanks and i love your videos.
X-Play Archive I think it was in other parts of the world, but in North America it was only bundled with the XBox version.
AdamKoralik ok thank you for answering. Also have you seen the price of shenmue now? it is like $100 online.
X-Play Archive Yep, it's madness.
AdamKoralik well it sucks that i can't find my copy of shnmeu 1 or 2 or my DC/Xbox so ican't relive these games for now. I have one last question for you I'm thinking about selling my ps3 and getting a WII U, Should i Do that? do you think it is worth selling my ps3. Thanks again.
X-Play Archive Only you can make that decision man.
Hello have you notice the prices of the shenmue games (pal) have sky rocketed since the announcement of shenmue 3, even the Xbox one too.
I'm glad I kept all my copies including the Xbox one buy it's so tempting to cash in on the Xbox one
i knew i could count on you for an very correct and honest talk about this event; and i hope it'll get all what it needs to be a complete success. do you think there's any chance that sega would like to take more involvement on it?
Cristails Thanks for watching.
I hope so, they've been...super silent. They haven't even tweeted about it.
I love how you always seem to get across everyone's feelings for this game in your videos!
Exciting times ahead!
spinksy173 Hell yeah man!
Did they say anything about Shenmue 1 and 2 HD release? It would make sense since there is a whole generation of gamers who haven't played it.
SirGeeeO Nothing yet.
Quick Edit: I hear SEGA is planning to make Shenmue I & II remastered in HD after hearing the sucess of Shenmue 3's kickstarter so you may not need to worry about emulation.
The best way to emulate Shenmue I and II is to emulate on PC using an emulator called "Demul". Demul 0.7 Alpha is by far the most accurate emulator for Shenmue but it is more demanding of your PC than the more inaccurate and glitchy NullDC emulator.
You'll need either the GD-ROM image (.gdi) or CD-ROM image (.cdi) file for Shenmue I to play it on the emulator.
However since Shenmue II was a much larger game than Shenmue I, the person who created the original .cdi file for Shenmue II ripped out all the civilian dialogue to make it fit onto 80min CDs. Therefore I recommend using the .gdi file for Shenmue II. Also if you want to play Shenmue II in english like the xbox version then there's an english hack available called the Shenmue II English 99min (.cdi) which has all the english dialogue from the xbox version put into the dreamcast version
Have never played Shenmue but i love listening to you talk about a video game with so much passion its very refreshing
great that they're doing a 3rd game - now i want there to be a sequel to skies of arcadia. the dreamcast actually had some great games.
When I saw the shenmue 3 Kickstarter , you were the 1st person I was thinking of.I'm also happy for shemue. I still have the original copie of shemue 2 for xbox1(the original xbox)
Adam I have 3 things to say
1 I have never had the opportunity to play shenmue, and I still got exited
2 this game is the reason I am going to get a ps4 and an Xbox 1
3 is Sega involved in this at all?
Nathan Kelly All we know is Sega gave Yu permission and physical assets for the game. That's about it.
hey adam can you do a video on segas recent announcement? maybe you can speculate on what game will be announced at tgs?
itsstillthinking1999 Honestly, there just isn't that much to say. It's encouraging, but still very limited.
Hey Adam,
Man I can't believe this is happening; while I've never played the original Shenmue (I've been THIS close to getting it before, guess that won't happen for a while now thanks to price gauging after the announcement) I'm a huge fan of the Dreamcast and SEGA in general and it's incredible to see the community come together for this. If nothing else I'm supporting the kickstarter in the hope that one day, who knows, maybe SEGA will enter the console business again. If this proves anything it's that nothing's impossible,
Keep Dreaming mate.
Im sure this has been asked and answered before, but I can't wade through millions of comments and vids, so this game is a direct continuation of part 2 right? As in we're still in 1987 and not in the present.... which I would really hate.
Jay Lee Yep, direct sequel.
Pheew.... just checking.
I just started the Shenmue series. I can certainly say that once you give the game a while to sink in, it still holds the charm it did back in the day. I'm only 4 hours into disk 1, and am so excited about playing the rest! Certainly this game still holds value today, it's not all rose tinted glasses.
I actually sat down and watched this entire thing. Thank you for your thoughts, the information, and clarification. My current pledge is $29 just because I figured, "Kickstarter reached $2mil, I got my digital copy. I'm set." But now that I understand that "more money = better game," I'm saving up to upgrade to the $250 tier (really want that CD soundtrack) all thanks to your video. It's really the most I can salvage up after doing some budgeting.
Kris Campos
I REALLY want to get into shenmue but I cant find a cheap copy for the Dreamcast.
Colin Park Consider emulation, lots of guides on here now on how to. I'm sure people will help if you need it. :D
Colin Park Burn the ISO.
Hey, Adam, I'm having bad feeling bout this. Imo, i'm feeling that Sony ain't gonna support it for long distance plus the Kickstarter name was already dragged through mud multiple times and then it might end as just an hype ad. I remembered myself when Yu Suzuki once mentioned at that time when it had great selling numbers on DC that he was planning on 7-16 sequels of this and yearly installments. No fret, i have seen longplays of Shenmue 1 and 2 and i liked it, looks like a timeless classic, but sudden involvement of Sony and this Kickstarter thing rly gives me suspicion bout something bad.
Are you planning to do a Live Stream to promote Shenmue 3 on Kickstarter?
ABOhiccups Nah, the Shenmue Dojo is already doing that.
adam did you know shenmue hits 5 million there will be first person or am i getting it wrong look at the very bottom of the kickstarter thing you'll see what i'm talking about
I've never played shenmue but I still gotta say that was beautiful man. Its great to see this kind of love and passion be shared with a community (video games, movies, art, ect...). Keep fightin for what you love.
Stephen Bartkowski Thanks!
regarding the funding yeah shenmue iii isn't going to cost anywhere near as much as the first 2 games even if it is bigger than the first 2 games combined. For a start they are using a ready made engine (unreal) that is likely a lot easier and quicker to use than shenmues original engine which they built from the ground up which likely took a lot of the budget . Also judging by the few seconds of footage we have seen (which will undoubtedly improve somewhat granted) the game isn't going to be cutting edge graphically like shenmue was in 1999. Also in a Q and A, Yu Suzuki mentioned he was going to use some original assets from shenmue i and ii which will cut more corners!
Great videos Adam.
I was one of the people that did think Sony were putting money into this, but now after watching, I admit I was wrong. Trouble is this actually worries me more. The fact that this game is total all down to us now scares me a little. I check the kickstarter every day and you can definitely see it slowing down. I'm worried it wont reach all the current stretch goals, let alone the other we haven't seen yet. I can't help but think we might get a watered down version of Shenmue III, which will be a massive shame. I would rather they did a version that had Dreamcast graphics and ALL the gameplay, than one with next gen graphics with a lot on content missing. You mention one of the future stretch goal was the arcade games, if we don't get that I'll be crushed. I used to love going down to arcades to play a bit of Space Harrier or After Burner, It won't be the same without it.
RetroGamerAddict Thanks!
All we can do is donate what we can. That's our power.
I'm gonna get it on PC. Man I hope the port isn't half assed.