@@littlebear2477 depending on what your budget is & what type of pads you want/need, I’d go with the Yamaha for sure. I ended up finding a good deal for a Pearl Mimic Pro so I bought it & sold my TD17 module. But in terms of the DTX8K module vs Roland td17 there’s no question in my mind the Yam sounds a lot better. Just my 2 cents
These particular 2 kits the DTX 8 and 10 have surpassed Roland at this level!!! The Roland TD-50 does contend with and the Yamaha DTX 10, though! As does the Roland TD-30 does also. But the DTX 10 is an awesome drum kit!!!!
The dtx8 is by far better looking than the td17, they both sound great to me, but I'd rather have nice drums, I'm sorry if it ain't pretty I'm just not going to play it. A good instrument must sound good, feel good and look good.
I really like the new Yamaha kits. However, from the online demos I am not hearing definition of hits on the hi-hat and bow of the ride when a person is playing multiple hits. I can hear the overtone sound of the ride but not the individual hits of the tips of the sticks. Because of this the bow of the ride does not seem to cut through. (The bell of the ride seems fine though.) 6:19 for example. I have not had an opportunity to play one of these kits so only basing my observations on the videos I have seen.
it can be difficult to hear things over video depending on how your listening. I can tell you in the flesh you can really hear each hit of the ride and it really does cut through. If you can get to see one in person i highly recommend it.
I found that Overall the Yamaha has better playability this is mainly based off the larger sizes available for the toms and cymbal pads, the snare for the TD17 is very good though and it feels good to play.
Having taken about 18 months to destroy my first e-kit, a £400 Alesis, I've now taken about 4 years to trash quite a lot of my Roland TD17 KVX. The hi hat broke after a year or so and was replaced and now the replacement has gone. A couple of cymbals ripped near the fulcrum point (that will be my fault I think - perhaps had them fastened with too little swing). But it has been used almost every day for 30 mins to 2 hours (I should be able to drum by now really 😄) by me and my daughter, but also periodically by my son who's a hard hitter. I don't have any problem with these lifespans given the hammer they got - they're plastic and metal being hit tens of thousands of times. Things break. I don't think I've particularly abused it - it's just effectively been used for about 1/20th of 4 years, solid. Although, I do think the Roland hi hat looks a bit fragile - that bottom plastic cylinder bit going up and down. However... I do wonder, now, what to do. I could replace the kit with another TD17-KVX and sell the working bits of mine. I could replace the broken bits of mine (but given a full kit gets a 40% discount compared to buying the conmponents, I think I may as well get a new one and reset the clock to zero). Or... I have begin to wonder, are Yamahas (or any other makers) more robust? As I say, I'm not displeased with the Roland - I'm impressed. But, is there any evidence for Yams being even robustier? Cos I would be happy to try the other side.
in the amount of time that we have been supplying the Yamaha kits we have not had any customers come back and say they have had any trouble with reliability. not only have we not really had any complaints but the Yamaha spares department and warranty is much much easier to deal with that most other companies especially in the UK. The roland is a great kit no doubt about that but i definitely think that the Yamaha not only has stronger sounds but just a more robust design in general.
@@achamilton Thanks, that's good to know. I have a hankering for the Roland TD27KV2 but the Yamaha DTX8K with TCS is tempting, and the robustness and customer support is a big factor for me so may decide me. When my Roland high hats went back to the shop after a year or so they were gone for two months. That's no good. You wouldn't take your car wheel in for a new tyre and still be waiting two months later - and the hi-hat on a drum kit is far more important than the fourth wheel on a car! Ta, G.
@@gordonpanther7766 I will say that i feel the TCS pads are much much more durable than any mesh pad. Its also no secret that Yamaha customer support is some of the best in the business so they win on that front!
that is true but i would argue that you do get slightly more for your money as you do not get a hi-hat stand with the roland. For some people thats not an issue of course but for some it can be. Also with the addition of the wooden shells, much more versatile hardware, free standing snare drum (which you get a stand for as well) and the actual sampled drums on the module i think that sound wise the Yamaha has alot of things beat at this price range.
@@achamilton yeah, definitely two different tiers of edrum kits. Which is my point. Buy a hh stand, kick and throne, the Roland is still cheaper. I think better comparison would be with the VAD307, which as far as I can tell is still less than the Yamaha after buying a hh stand. Regardless of my opinion, thanks for your video and hard work.
@@BillWardsBack I would agree that the VAD307 is the much better comparison in terms of price. From a sound perspective this comparison works as it is still the TD17 module. Once you have added a hi-hat and snare stand and your other accessories the gap between them price wise is much smaller but i would still argue that the DTX-Pro module is stronger from a pure sound perspective. The main draw back is that the DTX-Pro module doesn't have bluetooth which is a massive shame.
At the time of recording, the DTX8 was much closer in price to the TD17 especially the TD17KVX. The TD27 was much more expensive at the time so it felt like an unfair comparison especially considering that the DTX10 was in fact closer in price to the TD27 at the time of recording.
I currently have the TD17KVX but I’m giving serious consideration into selling it & buying the Yamaha DTX8K. I just think it sounds so much better
I’ve had the DTX 8 for about two weeks and it is incredible
Same man I’m really considering
@@ninomaiorana_1374 they are perfect honestly. I’ve had every set from Roland to KAT to Alesis and these just blew me away
Can I ask what you ended up doing??
I’m really divided as I’ve mostly owned Roland
@@littlebear2477 depending on what your budget is & what type of pads you want/need, I’d go with the Yamaha for sure. I ended up finding a good deal for a Pearl Mimic Pro so I bought it & sold my TD17 module. But in terms of the DTX8K module vs Roland td17 there’s no question in my mind the Yam sounds a lot better. Just my 2 cents
These particular 2 kits the DTX 8 and 10 have surpassed Roland at this level!!! The Roland TD-50 does contend with and the Yamaha DTX 10, though! As does the Roland TD-30 does also. But the DTX 10 is an awesome drum kit!!!!
The dtx8 is by far better looking than the td17, they both sound great to me, but I'd rather have nice drums, I'm sorry if it ain't pretty I'm just not going to play it. A good instrument must sound good, feel good and look good.
Yamaha is the winner for me thanks for this awesome video
I really like the new Yamaha kits. However, from the online demos I am not hearing definition of hits on the hi-hat and bow of the ride when a person is playing multiple hits. I can hear the overtone sound of the ride but not the individual hits of the tips of the sticks. Because of this the bow of the ride does not seem to cut through. (The bell of the ride seems fine though.) 6:19 for example. I have not had an opportunity to play one of these kits so only basing my observations on the videos I have seen.
it can be difficult to hear things over video depending on how your listening. I can tell you in the flesh you can really hear each hit of the ride and it really does cut through. If you can get to see one in person i highly recommend it.
@@achamilton Thanks. I will try to demo a kit.
Compare a Roland of equal price to the yamaha, which happens to sound great.
Which kit had the better head response..ie playability?
I found that Overall the Yamaha has better playability this is mainly based off the larger sizes available for the toms and cymbal pads, the snare for the TD17 is very good though and it feels good to play.
TCS pads from Yamaha are the best ! ever !
The only thing that is lacking with the Yamaha kits is that there isn’t a lot of cymbal selection.
But their cymbals are better than roland in my opinion it's just more solid
If you study what the Yamaha offers, there really is no way you would want the Roland.
They never say which kit is which, lol
Which one is which?
When there is Roland logo it’s Roland when there’s no logo it is Yamaha
Roland is the first one shown in each clip (e.g. 0m 44); Yam is second one shown (e.g., 1m 23).
Which kit can i buy that has the bluetooth prox?
It has to be the Yamaha DTX10 or buy the DTX-ProX Module if you want bluetooth
Roland is lagging a bit in the sound. Especially when volume is increased. Yamaha sounds awesome period. Synthesized sounds vs real actual sounds.
Having taken about 18 months to destroy my first e-kit, a £400 Alesis, I've now taken about 4 years to trash quite a lot of my Roland TD17 KVX. The hi hat broke after a year or so and was replaced and now the replacement has gone. A couple of cymbals ripped near the fulcrum point (that will be my fault I think - perhaps had them fastened with too little swing). But it has been used almost every day for 30 mins to 2 hours (I should be able to drum by now really 😄) by me and my daughter, but also periodically by my son who's a hard hitter. I don't have any problem with these lifespans given the hammer they got - they're plastic and metal being hit tens of thousands of times. Things break. I don't think I've particularly abused it - it's just effectively been used for about 1/20th of 4 years, solid. Although, I do think the Roland hi hat looks a bit fragile - that bottom plastic cylinder bit going up and down.
However... I do wonder, now, what to do. I could replace the kit with another TD17-KVX and sell the working bits of mine. I could replace the broken bits of mine (but given a full kit gets a 40% discount compared to buying the conmponents, I think I may as well get a new one and reset the clock to zero).
Or... I have begin to wonder, are Yamahas (or any other makers) more robust? As I say, I'm not displeased with the Roland - I'm impressed. But, is there any evidence for Yams being even robustier? Cos I would be happy to try the other side.
in the amount of time that we have been supplying the Yamaha kits we have not had any customers come back and say they have had any trouble with reliability. not only have we not really had any complaints but the Yamaha spares department and warranty is much much easier to deal with that most other companies especially in the UK. The roland is a great kit no doubt about that but i definitely think that the Yamaha not only has stronger sounds but just a more robust design in general.
@@achamilton Thanks, that's good to know. I have a hankering for the Roland TD27KV2 but the Yamaha DTX8K with TCS is tempting, and the robustness and customer support is a big factor for me so may decide me. When my Roland high hats went back to the shop after a year or so they were gone for two months. That's no good. You wouldn't take your car wheel in for a new tyre and still be waiting two months later - and the hi-hat on a drum kit is far more important than the fourth wheel on a car!
Ta, G.
@@gordonpanther7766 I will say that i feel the TCS pads are much much more durable than any mesh pad. Its also no secret that Yamaha customer support is some of the best in the business so they win on that front!
the dtx8 is also now almost $1000 more than the Roland.
that is true but i would argue that you do get slightly more for your money as you do not get a hi-hat stand with the roland. For some people thats not an issue of course but for some it can be. Also with the addition of the wooden shells, much more versatile hardware, free standing snare drum (which you get a stand for as well) and the actual sampled drums on the module i think that sound wise the Yamaha has alot of things beat at this price range.
@@achamilton yeah, definitely two different tiers of edrum kits. Which is my point. Buy a hh stand, kick and throne, the Roland is still cheaper. I think better comparison would be with the VAD307, which as far as I can tell is still less than the Yamaha after buying a hh stand. Regardless of my opinion, thanks for your video and hard work.
@@BillWardsBack I would agree that the VAD307 is the much better comparison in terms of price. From a sound perspective this comparison works as it is still the TD17 module. Once you have added a hi-hat and snare stand and your other accessories the gap between them price wise is much smaller but i would still argue that the DTX-Pro module is stronger from a pure sound perspective. The main draw back is that the DTX-Pro module doesn't have bluetooth which is a massive shame.
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For the money Roland!
yamaha won
The comparison is pointless. You could have compared the DTX8 with the TD-27.
This video is pointless.
At the time of recording, the DTX8 was much closer in price to the TD17 especially the TD17KVX. The TD27 was much more expensive at the time so it felt like an unfair comparison especially considering that the DTX10 was in fact closer in price to the TD27 at the time of recording.
yamaha top🤟👍
This is comparing apples to oranges. Yamaha is the winner here.