I built myself a Wet-Dry-Wet rig earlier this year that used a dedicated H|H poweramp for the stereo wet cabs, as well as a stereo parallel mixer for modulation effects and such. It was a huge hassle to figure out, and I really didn't like the way that parallel mixers impact the tone and feel of your whole signal chain. So many effects pedals don't actually deliver a 100% wet signal, which makes level-matching within a parallel mixer a real chore. And something about the buffered splitting and summing really impacts feel, too. Plus, if you're running digital old school rack effects in parallel, you have to deal with line-level vs instrument level issues, as well as digital latency impacting the feel (if you don't have a dedicated dry signal cab). And for parallel mixers that are fully stereo... there's basically only one affordable product on the market, and that maxes you out at just 3 or 4 parallel loops. So you have to be really selective about what effects you run in parallel or play thousands for a custom stereo parallel rack mixer. It's a cool way to go in some respects, but most of the time the effects end up sounding better in series anyway. Same goes for stereo vs mono really. Especially since you can't gig with a stereo rig in most cases, as it's going through mono PAs.
Thanks for sharing! Sometimes simplicity is superior! It is fun to experiment with various setups to achieve new sounds, but you do run the risk of overcomplicating an already good/working setup. I've yet to try setting up a WET-DRY-WET rig. I'm sure it can sound very nice. The idea of having my stereo effects in parallel is enticing, though that does sound like a lot of added cable management hahaha It's nice to experiment with these things a bit easier/ on the fly with DAWs since the applied principles with gain-staging, wetness, level of sends, etc. are the same. It's been fun applying my knowledge and experience with effects (mostly for my guitar) from my pedalboard to the songs in my Debut Solo Album. Recording and composing music is my passion. ❤️ All the more exciting when we live in a golden era of accessibility to effects and technology for musicians. I've taken my time getting the mixes and effects on these tracks to my liking, and I'm super stoked to share it within the next couple of months! Stay Tuned! 👂
Great stuff! I have one on my larger bass/guitar board and haven't noticed the volume weirdness when having full wet loops. I have the pedal on constantly with the clean blend up almost full. Then I can activate the loops. Have you tried messing with the phase switches? Sometimes you will need an extra pedal in one of the loops to flip the phase as the switches on the pedal can throw other loops out of phase etc etc. So it can take quite a bit of tweaking to get right. The different bypass modes are a nice touch too, good for delay and reverb trails. Have fun with it 😂
From my research thus far, the best use case for the Triparallel is live looping with something like a Ditto Looper, EHX Freeze, and TC Electronic Infinite Sustainer.
Those are great options! infinite sustain/freeze pedals as well as loopers are great for Parallel Mixers. There are so many uses for this device. Recently I've loved using it to split my bass signal into two (D.I. + Wet through my pedalboard). 🎸
i don't use or need looper pedals, im just interested in having all my pedal in parrallel, so i can use a bunch of distortions and fuzzes at once without it turning into a crazy mess, rather, when they are blended together in parrallel, they give great depth to the distorted guitar tone
Let me say in advance that this baby will not change my musical ideas of serial connecting: I see it as an enlargement of sound possibilities. Serial connecting can still give me great sounds too: my latest discovery was playing my Casino through a serial combination of the EHX Ravish Sitar and the EHX SY9 on the AARP preset: it gave me the precise sound I was looking for for my latest compositie, a Mike Oldfield like loop with several instruments introduced after each other.
@@DaveyMulholland Casino is the Epiphone Casino, a guitar model made famous by the Beatles. EHX is short for Electro Harmonix. a brand famous for its guitar pedals.
Good question. Off the top of my head I feel like it’s not technically 4 into 1 because if any of the loops are engaged, the dry signal is completely effected by any one or combo of the three… I believe the “dry” and “master” knobs are simply a volume control at both sides of the three loops. I’ll try and get it set up soon to test for sure whether this is correct or not. I feel like I would have remembered if you could mix an unaffected dry signal in with the three loops. 👍
@@TheAtheistworld I did a test and it turns out I was mistaken. The “dry” knob is as it sounds and allows you to retain/mix in the dry signal received by the pedal with the three loops. In that way this device could be seen as a 4 in one signal mixer. Which is nice! I haven’t used this device as much as i could. It’s really awesome and we’ll worth the price! 👍
Anyone out there use parallel/series signal chains in an interesting way?
before and after comparison would be nice (series vs. parallel )
Great idea!
I’ve gained a lot more experience with this device since then, and could better demonstrate that comparison. 👍
I ordered this pedal and I am looking g forward to testing it
I built myself a Wet-Dry-Wet rig earlier this year that used a dedicated H|H poweramp for the stereo wet cabs, as well as a stereo parallel mixer for modulation effects and such. It was a huge hassle to figure out, and I really didn't like the way that parallel mixers impact the tone and feel of your whole signal chain. So many effects pedals don't actually deliver a 100% wet signal, which makes level-matching within a parallel mixer a real chore. And something about the buffered splitting and summing really impacts feel, too. Plus, if you're running digital old school rack effects in parallel, you have to deal with line-level vs instrument level issues, as well as digital latency impacting the feel (if you don't have a dedicated dry signal cab). And for parallel mixers that are fully stereo... there's basically only one affordable product on the market, and that maxes you out at just 3 or 4 parallel loops. So you have to be really selective about what effects you run in parallel or play thousands for a custom stereo parallel rack mixer. It's a cool way to go in some respects, but most of the time the effects end up sounding better in series anyway. Same goes for stereo vs mono really. Especially since you can't gig with a stereo rig in most cases, as it's going through mono PAs.
Thanks for sharing! Sometimes simplicity is superior! It is fun to experiment with various setups to achieve new sounds, but you do run the risk of overcomplicating an already good/working setup.
I've yet to try setting up a WET-DRY-WET rig. I'm sure it can sound very nice. The idea of having my stereo effects in parallel is enticing, though that does sound like a lot of added cable management hahaha It's nice to experiment with these things a bit easier/ on the fly with DAWs since the applied principles with gain-staging, wetness, level of sends, etc. are the same.
It's been fun applying my knowledge and experience with effects (mostly for my guitar) from my pedalboard to the songs in my Debut Solo Album. Recording and composing music is my passion. ❤️ All the more exciting when we live in a golden era of accessibility to effects and technology for musicians. I've taken my time getting the mixes and effects on these tracks to my liking, and I'm super stoked to share it within the next couple of months! Stay Tuned! 👂
Great stuff! I have one on my larger bass/guitar board and haven't noticed the volume weirdness when having full wet loops. I have the pedal on constantly with the clean blend up almost full. Then I can activate the loops.
Have you tried messing with the phase switches? Sometimes you will need an extra pedal in one of the loops to flip the phase as the switches on the pedal can throw other loops out of phase etc etc. So it can take quite a bit of tweaking to get right.
The different bypass modes are a nice touch too, good for delay and reverb trails.
Have fun with it 😂
From my research thus far, the best use case for the Triparallel is live looping with something like a Ditto Looper, EHX Freeze, and TC Electronic Infinite Sustainer.
Those are great options! infinite sustain/freeze pedals as well as loopers are great for Parallel Mixers. There are so many uses for this device. Recently I've loved using it to split my bass signal into two (D.I. + Wet through my pedalboard). 🎸
i don't use or need looper pedals, im just interested in having all my pedal in parrallel, so i can use a bunch of distortions and fuzzes at once without it turning into a crazy mess, rather, when they are blended together in parrallel, they give great depth to the distorted guitar tone
Gotta add the soldering video link if ya haven't yet bruv
Hey, thanks for the reminder, I appreciate it! I’m still kinda new to doing that type of thing. haha
Just added it! Thanks for watching, brother! 🤙
Let me say in advance that this baby will not change my musical ideas of serial connecting: I see it as an enlargement of sound possibilities. Serial connecting can still give me great sounds too: my latest discovery was playing my Casino through a serial combination of the EHX Ravish Sitar and the EHX SY9 on the AARP preset: it gave me the precise sound I was looking for for my latest compositie, a Mike Oldfield like loop with several instruments introduced after each other.
Don't understand what you mean.
@@DaveyMulholland Casino is the Epiphone Casino, a guitar model made famous by the Beatles. EHX is short for Electro Harmonix. a brand famous for its guitar pedals.
So u can mix all three loops and original dry signal into one? 4 into 1?? Right? Thnxx brother ❤
Good question. Off the top of my head I feel like it’s not technically 4 into 1 because if any of the loops are engaged, the dry signal is completely effected by any one or combo of the three…
I believe the “dry” and “master” knobs are simply a volume control at both sides of the three loops. I’ll try and get it set up soon to test for sure whether this is correct or not. I feel like I would have remembered if you could mix an unaffected dry signal in with the three loops. 👍
@@RedCarRecords i hope “dry” means what it says. I think it should be the unaffected dry. Cheers brother
@@TheAtheistworld I did a test and it turns out I was mistaken. The “dry” knob is as it sounds and allows you to retain/mix in the dry signal received by the pedal with the three loops.
In that way this device could be seen as a 4 in one signal mixer. Which is nice! I haven’t used this device as much as i could. It’s really awesome and we’ll worth the price! 👍
@@RedCarRecords awesome. Gracies amigo
@@TheAtheistworld sure thing!
next step is to rack em up haha.
exactly haha